I would run a test on the same cd with FUA not used, just try the correct cache amount set, to be sure. The Lite-on seems to outperform both Plextor 716s by a huge margine (not a single frame required to be re-ripeed)...
You were correct, I didn't have the cache detected (I didn't think it mattered since I had the FUA option enabled, but apparently it does. Here is the Bass Quake extraction log of the PX-716UF with the cache detected as well as FUA disabled Also, oddly enough I noticed that the cache detection is THE ONLY thing that is important (to be used *before* testing for FUA compatability). You can have the actual cache detected properly, and then turn on the use FUA option if it shows that the drive supports it, and it will still work just fine.
I'm not sure if enabling FUA does anything with the cache having a number other than 0 in it?. I also did a separate rip with FUA enabled of this entire disc, it resulted in exactly the same results with no re-reads needed at all.
dBpowerAMP Release 12 Alpha 7 Digital Audio Extraction Log from Sunday, October 22, 2006 3:05 PM
Drive & Settings
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Ripping with drive 'I: [PLEXTOR - DVDR PX-716A ]', Drive offset: 30, Overread Lead-in/out: Yes
AccurateRip: Active, Using C2: Yes, Cache: 1173 KB, FUA Cache Invalidate: No
Pass 1 Drive Speed: Max, Pass 2 Drive Speed: Max
Ultra:: Vary Drive Speed: No, Min Passes: 1, Max Passes: 6, Finish After Clean Passes: 1
Bad Sector Re-rip:: Drive Speed: Max, Maximum Re-reads: 700
Encoder: Wave -compression="PCM"
Extraction Log
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Track 1: Ripped LBA 0 to 5772 (1:16) in 0:14. Filename: K:\DBPWRAMP_EXT_AUDIO\Bass Quake\Bass Quake - Bass After Shock - 01 - Bass Quake.wav
Secure [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
CRC32: 78AC349D
Track 2: Ripped LBA 5772 to 27515 (4:49) in 0:50. Filename: K:\DBPWRAMP_EXT_AUDIO\Bass Quake\Bass Quake - Bass After Shock - 02 - Quad's Up.wav
Secure [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
CRC32: DAFD681B
Track 3: Ripped LBA 27515 to 44732 (3:49) in 0:35. Filename: K:\DBPWRAMP_EXT_AUDIO\Bass Quake\Bass Quake - Bass After Shock - 03 - 30 Below.wav
Secure [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
CRC32: 83207619
Track 4: Ripped LBA 44732 to 60782 (3:34) in 0:31. Filename: K:\DBPWRAMP_EXT_AUDIO\Bass Quake\Bass Quake - Bass After Shock - 04 - Bass 2 Bass.wav
Secure [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
CRC32: 4C7EE209
Track 5: Ripped LBA 60782 to 79090 (4:04) in 0:33. Filename: K:\DBPWRAMP_EXT_AUDIO\Bass Quake\Bass Quake - Bass After Shock - 05 - Bass Supply.wav
Secure [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
CRC32: C10F3211
Track 6: Ripped LBA 79090 to 100995 (4:52) in 0:37. Filename: K:\DBPWRAMP_EXT_AUDIO\Bass Quake\Bass Quake - Bass After Shock - 06 - Richter Scales.wav
Secure [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
CRC32: 65630459
Track 7: Ripped LBA 100995 to 117700 (3:42) in 0:26. Filename: K:\DBPWRAMP_EXT_AUDIO\Bass Quake\Bass Quake - Bass After Shock - 07 - Boom Boom Boom.wav
Secure [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
CRC32: A99E7D0B
Track 8: Ripped LBA 117700 to 139525 (4:51) in 0:33. Filename: K:\DBPWRAMP_EXT_AUDIO\Bass Quake\Bass Quake - Bass After Shock - 08 - Underground Bass.wav
Secure [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
CRC32: 37285062
Track 9: Ripped LBA 139525 to 155282 (3:30) in 0:23. Filename: K:\DBPWRAMP_EXT_AUDIO\Bass Quake\Bass Quake - Bass After Shock - 09 - Fool 4 Da Bass.wav
Secure [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
CRC32: 00322FB1
Track 10: Ripped LBA 155282 to 174697 (4:18) in 0:27. Filename: K:\DBPWRAMP_EXT_AUDIO\Bass Quake\Bass Quake - Bass After Shock - 10 - Sub Sonix.wav
Secure [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
CRC32: A949A424
Track 11: Ripped LBA 174697 to 192770 (4:00) in 0:24. Filename: K:\DBPWRAMP_EXT_AUDIO\Bass Quake\Bass Quake - Bass After Shock - 11 - Liquid Bass.wav
Secure [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
CRC32: 8DC2D683
Track 12: Ripped LBA 192770 to 198590 (1:17) in 0:07. Filename: K:\DBPWRAMP_EXT_AUDIO\Bass Quake\Bass Quake - Bass After Shock - 12 - Tremors.wav
Secure [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
CRC32: 846E1A57
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12 Tracks Ripped Securely
Here is some new info, including another interesting twist, this time with the Lite-On drive [NOTE -different disc this time with a problematic last track]:
dBpowerAMP Release 12 Alpha 7 Digital Audio Extraction Log from Sunday, October 22, 2006 1:20 PM
Drive & Settings
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Ripping with drive 'H: [LITE-ON - DVDRW SHW-160H6S]', Drive offset: 6, Overread Lead-in/out: No
AccurateRip: Active, Using C2: Yes, Cache: 670 KB, FUA Cache Invalidate: Yes
Pass 1 Drive Speed: Max, Pass 2 Drive Speed: Max
Ultra:: Vary Drive Speed: No, Min Passes: 1, Max Passes: 6, Finish After Clean Passes: 1
Bad Sector Re-rip:: Drive Speed: Max, Maximum Re-reads: 700
Encoder: Wave -compression="PCM"
Extraction Log
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Track 1: Ripped LBA 0 to 33859 (7:31) in 0:22. Filename: K:\DBPWRAMP_EXT_AUDIO\John Williams\John Williams - Star Wars Episode III - Revenge Of The Sith - 01 - Star Wars And The Revenge Of The Sith.wav
AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 17) [Pass 1]
CRC32: B46E4BA2
Track 2: Ripped LBA 33859 to 55310 (4:46) in 0:10. Filename: K:\DBPWRAMP_EXT_AUDIO\John Williams\John Williams - Star Wars Episode III - Revenge Of The Sith - 02 - Anakin's Dream.wav
AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 17) [Pass 1]
CRC32: A7CB1AEB
Track 3: Ripped LBA 55310 to 71987 (3:42) in 0:07. Filename: K:\DBPWRAMP_EXT_AUDIO\John Williams\John Williams - Star Wars Episode III - Revenge Of The Sith - 03 - Battle Of The Heroes.wav
AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 17) [Pass 1]
CRC32: C7A58552
Track 4: Ripped LBA 71987 to 90262 (4:03) in 0:07. Filename: K:\DBPWRAMP_EXT_AUDIO\John Williams\John Williams - Star Wars Episode III - Revenge Of The Sith - 04 - Anakin's Betrayal.wav
AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 17) [Pass 1]
CRC32: F21D73C4
Track 5: Ripped LBA 90262 to 108788 (4:07) in 0:07. Filename: K:\DBPWRAMP_EXT_AUDIO\John Williams\John Williams - Star Wars Episode III - Revenge Of The Sith - 05 - General Grievous.wav
AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 17) [Pass 1]
CRC32: 77C88324
Track 6: Ripped LBA 108788 to 133166 (5:25) in 0:09. Filename: K:\DBPWRAMP_EXT_AUDIO\John Williams\John Williams - Star Wars Episode III - Revenge Of The Sith - 06 - Palpatine's Teachings.wav
AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 17) [Pass 1]
CRC32: 6B841453
Track 7: Ripped LBA 133166 to 148734 (3:27) in 0:05. Filename: K:\DBPWRAMP_EXT_AUDIO\John Williams\John Williams - Star Wars Episode III - Revenge Of The Sith - 07 - Grievous And The Droids.wav
AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 17) [Pass 1]
CRC32: 2D4B8BEC
Track 8: Ripped LBA 148734 to 163494 (3:16) in 0:05. Filename: K:\DBPWRAMP_EXT_AUDIO\John Williams\John Williams - Star Wars Episode III - Revenge Of The Sith - 08 - Padme's Ruminations.wav
AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 17) [Pass 1]
CRC32: 3DDD17C0
Track 9: Ripped LBA 163494 to 181285 (3:57) in 0:06. Filename: K:\DBPWRAMP_EXT_AUDIO\John Williams\John Williams - Star Wars Episode III - Revenge Of The Sith - 09 - Anakin Vs. Obi-Wan.wav
AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 17) [Pass 1]
CRC32: 4169D22E
Track 10: Ripped LBA 181285 to 199669 (4:05) in 0:06. Filename: K:\DBPWRAMP_EXT_AUDIO\John Williams\John Williams - Star Wars Episode III - Revenge Of The Sith - 10 - Anakin's Dark Deeds.wav
AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 17) [Pass 1]
CRC32: 5301D9F4
Track 11: Ripped LBA 199669 to 218752 (4:14) in 0:06. Filename: K:\DBPWRAMP_EXT_AUDIO\John Williams\John Williams - Star Wars Episode III - Revenge Of The Sith - 11 - Enter Lord Vader.wav
AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 17) [Pass 1]
CRC32: 1876BF73
Track 12: Ripped LBA 218752 to 230886 (2:41) in 0:03. Filename: K:\DBPWRAMP_EXT_AUDIO\John Williams\John Williams - Star Wars Episode III - Revenge Of The Sith - 12 - The Immolation Scene.wav
AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 16) [Pass 1]
CRC32: 5E3C6FA2
Track 13: Ripped LBA 230886 to 243591 (2:49) in 0:03. Filename: K:\DBPWRAMP_EXT_AUDIO\John Williams\John Williams - Star Wars Episode III - Revenge Of The Sith - 13 - Grievous Speaks To Lord Sidious.wav
AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 17) [Pass 1]
CRC32: 13641D81
Track 14: Ripped LBA 243591 to 259879 (3:37) in 0:04. Filename: K:\DBPWRAMP_EXT_AUDIO\John Williams\John Williams - Star Wars Episode III - Revenge Of The Sith - 14 - The Birth Of The Twins And Padme's Destiny.wav
AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 17) [Pass 1]
CRC32: 28D4F543
Track 15: Ripped LBA 259879 to 318813 (13:05) in 2:01. Filename: K:\DBPWRAMP_EXT_AUDIO\John Williams\John Williams - Star Wars Episode III - Revenge Of The Sith - 15 - A New Hope And End Credits.wav
AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 15) [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1, Re-Rip 234 Frames]
CRC32: B8406495
Re-rip Frame: 289206 (00:06:31.026) matched 10 / 11
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Re-rip Frame: 292989 (00:07:21.466) matched 10 / 11
Re-rip Frame: 293010 (00:07:21.746) matched 10 / 11
Re-rip Frame: 293030 (00:07:22.013) matched 10 / 11
Re-rip Frame: 293031 (00:07:22.026) matched 10 / 11
Re-rip Frame: 293051 (00:07:22.293) matched 10 / 11
Re-rip Frame: 293052 (00:07:22.306) matched 10 / 11
Re-rip Frame: 293093 (00:07:22.853) matched 10 / 11
Re-rip Frame: 293094 (00:07:22.866) matched 10 / 11
Re-rip Frame: 293114 (00:07:23.133) matched 10 / 11
Re-rip Frame: 293115 (00:07:23.146) matched 10 / 11
Re-rip Frame: 293219 (00:07:24.533) matched 10 / 11
Re-rip Frame: 311176 (00:11:23.960) matched 10 / 11
Re-rip Frame: 311177 (00:11:23.973) matched 10 / 11
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15 Tracks Ripped Accurately
Observe the last track extracted with the Plextor this time (with cache detected but yet also, FUA enabled --it didn't even have to do an ultra pass here. By the way, this last track showed c2 errors and even a red, bad block of data when scanned by Nero CD speed with the Lite-On drive --notice the CRC's
dBpowerAMP Release 12 Alpha 7 Digital Audio Extraction Log from Sunday, October 22, 2006 3:30 PM
Drive & Settings
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Ripping with drive 'I: [PLEXTOR - DVDR PX-716A ]', Drive offset: 30, Overread Lead-in/out: Yes
AccurateRip: Active, Using C2: Yes, Cache: 1173 KB, FUA Cache Invalidate: Yes
Pass 1 Drive Speed: Max, Pass 2 Drive Speed: Max
Ultra:: Vary Drive Speed: No, Min Passes: 1, Max Passes: 6, Finish After Clean Passes: 1
Bad Sector Re-rip:: Drive Speed: Max, Maximum Re-reads: 700
Encoder: Wave -compression="PCM"
Extraction Log
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Track 15: Ripped LBA 259879 to 318813 (13:05) in 1:38. Filename: K:\DBPWRAMP_EXT_AUDIO\John Williams\John Williams - Star Wars Episode III - Revenge Of The Sith - 15 - A New Hope And End Credits.wav
AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 15) [Pass 1]
CRC32: B8406495
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1 Tracks Ripped Accurately
More cross-verification showing that something must be being done right.
EAC extraction logfile from 22. October 2006, 15:52 for CD
John Williams / Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith [Original Motion Picture Soundtrack]
Used drive : PLEXTOR DVDR PX-716A Adapter: 2 ID: 0
Read mode : Secure with NO C2, accurate stream, NO disable cache
Read offset correction : 30
Overread into Lead-In and Lead-Out : Yes
Used output format : Internal WAV Routines
44.100 Hz; 16 Bit; Stereo
Other options :
Fill up missing offset samples with silence : No
Delete leading and trailing silent blocks : No
Installed external ASPI interface
Track 15
Filename K:\DBPWRAMP_EXT_AUDIO\John Williams_EAC_TRACK_15_NOC2\A New Hope and End Credits.wav
Peak level 90.1 %
Track quality 100.0 %
Test CRC B8406495
Copy CRC B8406495
Copy OK
No errors occured
End of status report
By the way Spoon, question:
How could track 15 from the Lite-On log match the Accuraterip database as well as the CRC's from EAC and from the flawless rip of the Plextor when it had these two lines of code in the log?:
Re-rip Frame: 289331 (00:06:32.693). Insecure (c2 dropped 700)
Re-rip Frame: 289332 (00:06:32.706). Insecure (c2 dropped 700)