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Secure Ripper Test (part 2 concise results)

Reply #150 –
TrueAudio - for large logs like that, please use "codebox" instead of "code". 

-brendan

Secure Ripper Test (part 2 concise results)

Reply #151 –
I think you need to try those drives with another pc that hasn't had any layers or such installed.

Secure Ripper Test (part 2 concise results)

Reply #152 –
Quote from: gaillard on
I think you need to try those drives with another pc that hasn't had any layers or such installed.


Daemon Tools has only been reported to interfere with Force Unit Access, noone has said anything about it interfering with the ability of a drive to pass C2 information to a CD ripping app.  What your suggesting implies that some part of Daemon Tools was not uninstalled sufficiently.  I had previously stated that I used the known working fix for removing the SPT layer that Daemon Tools adds that was posted by other members here; namely "sptdinst_x86.exe remove", which uninstalls what Daemon Tools leaves behind.  In addition to that, I run a registry cleaner, to remove any traces of the program.

Since the Spoon has not yet commented on these new tests, I will hold off on anything further until he can confirm that there is nothing (or hopefully find a problem and fix it) wihin his (Alpha stage) software that is the culprit here.

If there was a "layer" or some type of filter left behind somehow or another, then try to explain why my internal PX-716SA extracts flawlessly USING C2, if the problem is somehow specific to preventing C2 from working with Plextor drives.  Remember the internal drive is virtually identical chipset and mechanically wise to the external PX-716UF (my internal one and the current ext drive are both TLA#0304).

Also the tracks that were extracted successfully with the external drive play back fine, with no clicks or pops or anything, not to mention the CRC's match the internal one using C2.  That being said, I should be able to use the externals with C2.  By the way, those error logs with the UF drives, were generated almost instantly.  The drive started reading the disc, and then BAM, all the songs errored out within about 2 seconds.  This leads me to believe that dBpowerAMP is not recognizing that the ext UF drive is capable of C2, and misreading/failing to communicate with whatever part of the drive is supposed to query back the response that the software is calling for the drive to perform.

It doesn't matter who or what is wrong here, all that matters is whatever it is that is wrong, can be corrected.  If in fact it is on my end, somehow, and I find out that it is, I won't hesitate to reply back here with the cause of it all, so as to help anyone else who might run into the same issue, and save you, and everyone else, time.

Secure Ripper Test (part 2 concise results)

Reply #153 –
Seems all USB drives will error out if C2 is enabled in R12, not just Plextors

I've found no way around this yet, I've tested 3 drives w/ 3 different enclosures.

I posted about this problem as early as alpha 5, but was pretty much told it was my enclosure...

Sicne then I bought 2 more, for my other 2 drives

Edit: I'd like to add, that what I'm getting at is Nero, EAC, Easy CD-DA can all use C2 error pointers on my USB drives, but R12 can't. Someone needs to figure out what R12 is doing wrong, that all the other rippers are doing right.

Secure Ripper Test (part 2 concise results)

Reply #154 –
Hmm.  In my experience, SPTI calls via USB are much more limited in terms of what size/type of transactions are allowed when talking to drives in general.  In addition, some chipsets might be more limited than others when talking to ATAPI devices like optical drives.

-brendan

Secure Ripper Test (part 2 concise results)

Reply #155 –
is it the usb chipset/driver/interface that has restricting features?  If so, perhaps a professional quality one made for high end applications like server performance

Secure Ripper Test (part 2 concise results)

Reply #156 –
Quote from: gaillard on
is it the usb chipset/driver/interface that has restricting features?  If so, perhaps a professional quality one made for high end applications like server performance


I think there are two issues. 

1. The USB spec appears to restrict the size and types of CDB transactions via USB to ATA/ATAPI devices, at least it does so substantially more than via PATA, SATA, SCSI and Firewire.

2. Some chipsets may have more problems with translating esoteric CDB transactions.

e.g. I still haven't figured out a way to get a drive serial number over USB from an ATA device and I appear not to be alone in this issue.  This is normally a pretty straightforward transaction.

-brendan

Secure Ripper Test (part 2 concise results)

Reply #157 –
Quote from: greynol on
Unfortunately I still can't use C2 with my Sony CDU5221. 

Quote from: rudefyet on
Seems all USB drives will error out if C2 is enabled in R12, not just Plextors

The CDU5221 isn't a USB drive, but perhaps it's a related problem?

Secure Ripper Test (part 2 concise results)

Reply #158 –
Quote from: bhoar on
Quote from: gaillard on
is it the usb chipset/driver/interface that has restricting features?  If so, perhaps a professional quality one made for high end applications like server performance

I think there are two issues. 

1. The USB spec appears to restrict the size and types of CDB transactions via USB to ATA/ATAPI devices, at least it does so substantially more than via PATA, SATA, SCSI and Firewire.

2. Some chipsets may have more problems with translating esoteric CDB transactions.

e.g. I still haven't figured out a way to get a drive serial number over USB from an ATA device and I appear not to be alone in this issue.  This is normally a pretty straightforward transaction.

-brendan

ATTN: Spoon
Problem solved (sufficiently for me anyways)
Solution?  ---> Don't use USB 2.0, I switched to the 1394 (Firewire) Interface on the back of the PX-716UF.
C2 works perfectly in secure mode now using Firewire, thats all that matters to me, but some will undoubtedly wish it to work through USB 2.0 also.  This is indeed an issue with the command set relating to C2.  dBpowerAMP ripped very fast and produced perfect results, I'm listening to the rip now, flawless, sounds great, you deserve many thanks for producing something that will challenge (at the very least) EAC and Plextools. 


External PX-716UF WITH C2 Secure Mode, FIREWIRE (1394):

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dBpowerAMP Release 12 Alpha 7 Digital Audio Extraction Log from Thursday, October 19, 2006 7:47 PM

Drive & Settings
----------------

Ripping with drive 'I:   [PLEXTOR  - DVDR   PX-716A  ]',  Drive offset: 30,  Overread Lead-in/out: Yes
AccurateRip: Active,  Using C2: Yes,  Cache: None,  FUA Cache Invalidate: Yes
Pass 1 Drive Speed: Max,  Pass 2 Drive Speed: Max
Ultra::  Vary Drive Speed: No,  Min Passes: 1,  Max Passes: 6,  Finish After Clean Passes: 1
Bad Sector Re-rip::  Drive Speed: Max,  Maximum Re-reads: 700

Encoder: Wave -compression="PCM"

Extraction Log
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Track 1:  Ripped LBA 0 to 24260 (5:23) in 0:16. Filename: K:\DBPWRAMP_EXT_AUDIO\Fiona Apple\Fiona Apple - When the Pawn Hits the Conflicts He Thinks Like a King... - 01 - On the Bound.wav
  AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 24)     [Pass 1]
  CRC32: 932173EE

Track 2:  Ripped LBA 24260 to 40831 (3:40) in 0:10. Filename: K:\DBPWRAMP_EXT_AUDIO\Fiona Apple\Fiona Apple - When the Pawn Hits the Conflicts He Thinks Like a King... - 02 - To Your Love.wav
  AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 23)     [Pass 1]
  CRC32: 157B81BF

Track 3:  Ripped LBA 40831 to 56667 (3:31) in 0:09. Filename: K:\DBPWRAMP_EXT_AUDIO\Fiona Apple\Fiona Apple - When the Pawn Hits the Conflicts He Thinks Like a King... - 03 - Limp.wav
  AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 25)     [Pass 1]
  CRC32: 454C730E

Track 4:  Ripped LBA 56667 to 71878 (3:22) in 0:08. Filename: K:\DBPWRAMP_EXT_AUDIO\Fiona Apple\Fiona Apple - When the Pawn Hits the Conflicts He Thinks Like a King... - 04 - Love Ridden.wav
  AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 25)     [Pass 1]
  CRC32: 18E02F5A

Track 5:  Ripped LBA 71878 to 88422 (3:40) in 0:08. Filename: K:\DBPWRAMP_EXT_AUDIO\Fiona Apple\Fiona Apple - When the Pawn Hits the Conflicts He Thinks Like a King... - 05 - Paper Bag.wav
  AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 25)     [Pass 1]
  CRC32: E8D29123

Track 6:  Ripped LBA 88422 to 110778 (4:58) in 0:10. Filename: K:\DBPWRAMP_EXT_AUDIO\Fiona Apple\Fiona Apple - When the Pawn Hits the Conflicts He Thinks Like a King... - 06 - A Mistake.wav
  AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 25)     [Pass 1]
  CRC32: 986722EF

Track 7:  Ripped LBA 110778 to 131793 (4:40) in 0:09. Filename: K:\DBPWRAMP_EXT_AUDIO\Fiona Apple\Fiona Apple - When the Pawn Hits the Conflicts He Thinks Like a King... - 07 - Fast as You Can.wav
  AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 25)     [Pass 1]
  CRC32: 178FEE51

Track 8:  Ripped LBA 131793 to 151197 (4:18) in 0:08. Filename: K:\DBPWRAMP_EXT_AUDIO\Fiona Apple\Fiona Apple - When the Pawn Hits the Conflicts He Thinks Like a King... - 08 - The Way Things Are.wav
  AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 25)     [Pass 1]
  CRC32: AD10091D

Track 9:  Ripped LBA 151197 to 169999 (4:10) in 0:07. Filename: K:\DBPWRAMP_EXT_AUDIO\Fiona Apple\Fiona Apple - When the Pawn Hits the Conflicts He Thinks Like a King... - 09 - Get Gone.wav
  AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 24)     [Pass 1]
  CRC32: 3080A536

Track 10:  Ripped LBA 169999 to 192160 (4:55) in 0:08. Filename: K:\DBPWRAMP_EXT_AUDIO\Fiona Apple\Fiona Apple - When the Pawn Hits the Conflicts He Thinks Like a King... - 10 - I Know.wav
  AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 21)     [Pass 1]
  CRC32: F8A6AA66

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10 Tracks Ripped Accurately

Secure Ripper Test (part 2 concise results)

Reply #159 –
Quote from: spoon on
eb:

you can add the freedb id (or cddb id) to the id tag.


I think you may have misunderstood my request. I want the ripper to put the ripped files in a directory named, e.g., 950abe0c, so that the next process in the pipeline can find it. I could do this if you supported [discid] in the Set File Naming option. The ripper is already computing the discid, I just want it to be available for naming.

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Reply #160 –
Quote from: gaillard on
I would buy a good c2 capable drive for 50 bucks and use that.  The gain in eliminating consistent errors is worth it.


Which drive would you suggest Gaillard?

Is the Plextor PX-760A any good at all for use with R12?

Secure Ripper Test (part 2 concise results)

Reply #161 –
I will look into c2 over usb, and putting freedb id in the naming section.

Secure Ripper Test (part 2 concise results)

Reply #162 –
Quote from: David Lytham on
Quote from: gaillard on

I would buy a good c2 capable drive for 50 bucks and use that.  The gain in eliminating consistent errors is worth it.


Which drive would you suggest Gaillard?

Is the Plextor PX-760A any good at all for use with R12?


I use the 708a, they are relatively cheap and support hidden audio tracks as well as in and out reading lead.  c2 reporting is top notch.

Secure Ripper Test (part 2 concise results)

Reply #164 –
@spoon

by default track number is track number/ total tracks .
when check "track number without track cont " i espected number track in track tag AND total track in total track tag, but nothing is write in total track.
same for disc number , total discs
it is intended?

tanks for write album art as foder.jpg
Music is my first love.

Secure Ripper Test (part 2 concise results)

Reply #165 –
Quote from: David Lytham on
The only one I could find is this one here http://www.saitekinc.com/product_info.php?...69b14643f5a3f21 - is that the same one that you use?

Hopefully they'll ship to the UK.

A friend of mine is having trouble with the cache and FUA settings and his PX-760A, but this might not have anything to do with spoon's program.

Otherwise the 760 is an upgraded version of their 755 which came after the 716, 712 and lastly the 708.

They are all based on a line of chips from Sanyo.  If you find a 760 for around the same price as a 708, I'd go for it.
 

Secure Ripper Test (part 2 concise results)

Reply #166 –
Quote from: greynol on
Quote from: David Lytham on

The only one I could find is this one here http://www.saitekinc.com/product_info.php?...69b14643f5a3f21 - is that the same one that you use?

Hopefully they'll ship to the UK.

A friend of mine is having trouble with the cache and FUA settings and his PX-760A, but this might not have anything to do with spoon's program.

Otherwise the 760 is an upgraded version of their 755 which came after the 716, 712 and lastly the 708.

They are all based on a line of chips from Sanyo.  If you find a 760 for around the same price as a 708, I'd go for it.


So basically the 760 uses the same line of chips as the 708? I think I'll go for that if it's the case, I can pick one up tomorrow then and get ripping

Secure Ripper Test (part 2 concise results)

Reply #167 –
Quote from: David Lytham on
So basically the 760 uses the same line of chips as the 708? I think I'll go for that if it's the case, I can pick one up tomorrow then and get ripping

Get it from a place that will take it back if you aren't satisfied.  I hear that Plextor has really good support if the drive ever fails within the warranty period.  I really wanted a 755 back when I was in the market for a new drive, but it wasn't available in the US, so I went with the 716.  I have been very satisfied with my decision.

Secure Ripper Test (part 2 concise results)

Reply #168 –
what he said if price is no concern... =)

Secure Ripper Test (part 2 concise results)

Reply #169 –
>"track number without track cont " i espected number track in track tag AND total track in total track tag,

Not how that one works, CD Ripper will write a

xx/xx

Tag if it is the standard for the format. It will also write seperate track number and track count it that is standard. What tag are you using? and what format?

Secure Ripper Test (part 2 concise results)

Reply #170 –
I have the drive now.

Should I use the "Clear Read Cache with FUA" option?

Secure Ripper Test (part 2 concise results)

Reply #171 –
Quote from: spoon on
>"track number without track cont " i espected number track in track tag AND total track in total track tag,

Not how that one works, CD Ripper will write a

xx/xx

Tag if it is the standard for the format. It will also write seperate track number and track count it that is standard. What tag are you using? and what format?

ok i see: with ogg vorbis i have xx/xx because it is standard for the format.
with lame i have separate track number total.

i have a request: possibility to have allways separate track /total track and disc/total disc ( i know, it isn't standard but usefull...)

regards, melomane
Music is my first love.

Secure Ripper Test (part 2 concise results)

Reply #172 –
>Should I use the "Clear Read Cache with FUA" option?

Try the test, that is the sure way (test first FUA, then test drive cache detection, it should detect 0 kb if fua is working, there are 2 effective tests to validate fua).

Secure Ripper Test (part 2 concise results)

Reply #173 –
ATTN: Spoon

Unusual discrepancy/difference betwwen C2 or other error correction with dBpowerAMP R12 A7 vs. Plextools

NOTE: THis is with an *intentionally damaged CD* scratched with a metal dishwasher scrubber, and then severely scratched with running scissors in 4 places across the disc from center to outside edge.  (This was done to test for C2 capability initially, but I decided to try to rip the disc also.)

NOTE: also --the drive info I maually edited to exactly identify the type of drive as well as the firmware revision of the drive, no other daya was changed at all.  I did this because your program does not differentiate between an external PX-716UF vs. an Internal IDE PX-716SA.

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dBpowerAMP Release 12 Alpha 7 Digital Audio Extraction Log from Friday, October 20, 2006 8:24 PM

Drive & Settings
----------------

Ripping with drive 'I:   [PLEXTOR  - DVDR   PX-716UF 1.10  ]',  Drive offset: 30,  Overread Lead-in/out: Yes
AccurateRip: Active,  Using C2: Yes,  Cache: None,  FUA Cache Invalidate: Yes
Pass 1 Drive Speed: Max,  Pass 2 Drive Speed: Max
Ultra::  Vary Drive Speed: No,  Min Passes: 1,  Max Passes: 6,  Finish After Clean Passes: 1
Bad Sector Re-rip::  Drive Speed: Max,  Maximum Re-reads: 700

Encoder: Wave -compression="PCM"

Extraction Log
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Track 1:  Ripped LBA 0 to 5772 (1:16) in 0:11. Filename: K:\DBPWRAMP_EXT_AUDIO\Bass Quake\Bass Quake - Bass After Shock - 01 - Bass Quake.wav
  Secure  [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
  CRC32: 78AC349D

Track 2:  Ripped LBA 5772 to 27515 (4:49) in 0:37. Filename: K:\DBPWRAMP_EXT_AUDIO\Bass Quake\Bass Quake - Bass After Shock - 02 - Quad's Up.wav
  Secure  [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
  CRC32: DAFD681B

Track 3:  Ripped LBA 27515 to 44732 (3:49) in 0:26. Filename: K:\DBPWRAMP_EXT_AUDIO\Bass Quake\Bass Quake - Bass After Shock - 03 - 30 Below.wav
  Secure  [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
  CRC32: 83207619

Track 4:  Ripped LBA 44732 to 60782 (3:34) in 0:23. Filename: K:\DBPWRAMP_EXT_AUDIO\Bass Quake\Bass Quake - Bass After Shock - 04 - Bass 2 Bass.wav
  Secure  [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
  CRC32: 4C7EE209

Track 5:  Ripped LBA 60782 to 79090 (4:04) in 0:30. Filename: K:\DBPWRAMP_EXT_AUDIO\Bass Quake\Bass Quake - Bass After Shock - 05 - Bass Supply.wav
  Secure (Warning)  [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1, Re-Rip 5 Frames]
  CRC32: C10F3211
    Re-rip Frame: 69570 (00:01:57.173) matched 10 / 11  (c2 dropped 29)
    Re-rip Frame: 70029 (00:02:03.293) matched 10 / 12  (c2 dropped 26)
    Re-rip Frame: 70680 (00:02:11.973) matched 10 / 11  (c2 dropped 1)
    Re-rip Frame: 70681 (00:02:11.986) matched 10 / 11  (c2 dropped 17)
    Re-rip Frame: 70706 (00:02:12.320) matched 10 / 11  (c2 dropped 2)

Track 6:  Ripped LBA 79090 to 100995 (4:52) in 0:33. Filename: K:\DBPWRAMP_EXT_AUDIO\Bass Quake\Bass Quake - Bass After Shock - 06 - Richter Scales.wav
  Secure (Warning)  [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1, Re-Rip 4 Frames]
  CRC32: 65630459
    Re-rip Frame: 99107 (00:04:26.893) matched 10 / 12  (c2 dropped 7)
    Re-rip Frame: 99108 (00:04:26.906) matched 10 / 12  (c2 dropped 23)
    Re-rip Frame: 99121 (00:04:27.080) matched 10 / 11  (c2 dropped 23)
    Re-rip Frame: 99122 (00:04:27.093) matched 10 / 11  (c2 dropped 26)

Track 7:  Ripped LBA 100995 to 117700 (3:42) in 0:20. Filename: K:\DBPWRAMP_EXT_AUDIO\Bass Quake\Bass Quake - Bass After Shock - 07 - Boom Boom Boom.wav
  Secure  [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
  CRC32: A99E7D0B

Track 8:  Ripped LBA 117700 to 139525 (4:51) in 0:25. Filename: K:\DBPWRAMP_EXT_AUDIO\Bass Quake\Bass Quake - Bass After Shock - 08 - Underground Bass.wav
  Secure  [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
  CRC32: 37285062

Track 9:  Ripped LBA 139525 to 155282 (3:30) in 2:26. Filename: K:\DBPWRAMP_EXT_AUDIO\Bass Quake\Bass Quake - Bass After Shock - 09 - Fool 4 da Bass.wav
  Insecure  [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 2, Re-Rip 52 Frames]
  CRC32: 00322FB1
    Re-rip Frame: 141780 (00:00:30.066) matched 10 / 12  (c2 dropped 165)
    Re-rip Frame: 141796 (00:00:30.280) matched 10 / 11
    Re-rip Frame: 141811 (00:00:30.480) matched 10 / 13  (c2 dropped 38)
    Re-rip Frame: 141812 (00:00:30.493) matched 10 / 13  (c2 dropped 131)
    Re-rip Frame: 142471 (00:00:39.280) matched 10 / 11  (c2 dropped 16)
    Re-rip Frame: 143588 (00:00:54.173) matched 10 / 11  (c2 dropped 16)
    Re-rip Frame: 143604 (00:00:54.386) matched 10 / 11  (c2 dropped 27)
    Re-rip Frame: 143620 (00:00:54.600) matched 10 / 12  (c2 dropped 263)
    Re-rip Frame: 143651 (00:00:55.013) matched 10 / 12  (c2 dropped 54)
    Re-rip Frame: 144392 (00:01:04.893) matched 10 / 12  (c2 dropped 2)
    Re-rip Frame: 144408 (00:01:05.106) matched 10 / 13  (c2 dropped 16)
    Re-rip Frame: 144424 (00:01:05.320) matched 10 / 13  (c2 dropped 8)
    Re-rip Frame: 144440 (00:01:05.533) matched 10 / 12  (c2 dropped 35)
    Re-rip Frame: 144455 (00:01:05.733) matched 10 / 12  (c2 dropped 4)
    Re-rip Frame: 144456 (00:01:05.746) matched 10 / 12  (c2 dropped 28)
    Re-rip Frame: 144471 (00:01:05.946) matched 10 / 12  (c2 dropped 103)
    Re-rip Frame: 144472 (00:01:05.960) matched 10 / 14  (c2 dropped 50)
    Re-rip Frame: 144487 (00:01:06.160) matched 10 / 13  (c2 dropped 62)
    Re-rip Frame: 144503 (00:01:06.373) matched 10 / 13  (c2 dropped 11)
    Re-rip Frame: 144519 (00:01:06.586) matched 10 / 13  (c2 dropped 44)
    Re-rip Frame: 144534 (00:01:06.786) matched 10 / 12
    Re-rip Frame: 144535 (00:01:06.800) matched 10 / 11
    Re-rip Frame: 144550 (00:01:07.000) matched 10 / 11
    Re-rip Frame: 144551 (00:01:07.013) matched 10 / 12  (c2 dropped 1)
    Re-rip Frame: 144629 (00:01:08.053) matched 10 / 11
    Re-rip Frame: 144630 (00:01:08.066) matched 10 / 11  (c2 dropped 1)
    Re-rip Frame: 145435 (00:01:18.800) matched 10 / 12  (c2 dropped 2)
    Re-rip Frame: 145436 (00:01:18.813) matched 10 / 12  (c2 dropped 14)
    Re-rip Frame: 145451 (00:01:19.013) matched 10 / 12  (c2 dropped 19)
    Re-rip Frame: 145452 (00:01:19.026) matched 10 / 11  (c2 dropped 24)
    Re-rip Frame: 145467 (00:01:19.226) matched 10 / 11
    Re-rip Frame: 145515 (00:01:19.866) matched 10 / 11  (c2 dropped 2)
    Re-rip Frame: 145879 (00:01:24.720) matched 10 / 11  (c2 dropped 4)
    Re-rip Frame: 145910 (00:01:25.133) matched 10 / 13  (c2 dropped 45)
    Re-rip Frame: 145911 (00:01:25.146) matched 10 / 13  (c2 dropped 280)
    Re-rip Frame: 145926 (00:01:25.346) matched 10 / 11
    Re-rip Frame: 145927 (00:01:25.360) matched 10 / 11  (c2 dropped 3)
    Re-rip Frame: 145942 (00:01:25.560). Insecure  (c2 dropped 691) [c2 best match]
    Re-rip Frame: 145958 (00:01:25.773) matched 10 / 12  (c2 dropped 25)
    Re-rip Frame: 145974 (00:01:25.986) matched 10 / 13  (c2 dropped 111)
    Re-rip Frame: 145990 (00:01:26.200) matched 10 / 13  (c2 dropped 267)
    Re-rip Frame: 146005 (00:01:26.400) matched 10 / 13  (c2 dropped 60)
    Re-rip Frame: 146006 (00:01:26.413) matched 10 / 13  (c2 dropped 252)
    Re-rip Frame: 146021 (00:01:26.613) matched 10 / 12  (c2 dropped 4)
    Re-rip Frame: 146022 (00:01:26.626) matched 10 / 12  (c2 dropped 15)
    Re-rip Frame: 146037 (00:01:26.826) matched 10 / 11  (c2 dropped 1)
    Re-rip Frame: 146053 (00:01:27.040) matched 10 / 13  (c2 dropped 76)
    Re-rip Frame: 146069 (00:01:27.253) matched 10 / 12  (c2 dropped 22)
    Re-rip Frame: 146085 (00:01:27.466) matched 10 / 13  (c2 dropped 191)
    Re-rip Frame: 148202 (00:01:55.693) matched 10 / 11
    Re-rip Frame: 148203 (00:01:55.706) matched 10 / 11
    Re-rip Frame: 152547 (00:02:53.626) matched 10 / 11

Track 10:  Ripped LBA 155282 to 174697 (4:18) in 0:20. Filename: K:\DBPWRAMP_EXT_AUDIO\Bass Quake\Bass Quake - Bass After Shock - 10 - Sub Sonix.wav
  Secure  [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
  CRC32: A949A424

Track 11:  Ripped LBA 174697 to 192770 (4:00) in 0:18. Filename: K:\DBPWRAMP_EXT_AUDIO\Bass Quake\Bass Quake - Bass After Shock - 11 - Liquid Bass.wav
  Secure  [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
  CRC32: 8DC2D683

Track 12:  Ripped LBA 192770 to 198590 (1:17) in 0:05. Filename: K:\DBPWRAMP_EXT_AUDIO\Bass Quake\Bass Quake - Bass After Shock - 12 - Tremors.wav
  Secure  [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
  CRC32: 846E1A57

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12 Tracks Ripped: 9 Secure, 2 Secure (Warning), 1 Inaccurate

Now note this --different drive entirely --my point will be made at the end of this whole thing:

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dBpowerAMP Release 12 Alpha 7 Digital Audio Extraction Log from Friday, October 20, 2006 8:38 PM

Drive & Settings
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Ripping with drive 'H:   [LITE-ON  - DVDRW SHW-160H6S]',  Drive offset: 6,  Overread Lead-in/out: No
AccurateRip: Active,  Using C2: Yes,  Cache: 670 KB,  FUA Cache Invalidate: Yes
Pass 1 Drive Speed: Max,  Pass 2 Drive Speed: Max
Ultra::  Vary Drive Speed: No,  Min Passes: 1,  Max Passes: 6,  Finish After Clean Passes: 1
Bad Sector Re-rip::  Drive Speed: Max,  Maximum Re-reads: 700

Encoder: Wave -compression="PCM"

Extraction Log
--------------

Track 1:  Ripped LBA 0 to 5772 (1:16) in 0:15. Filename: K:\DBPWRAMP_EXT_AUDIO\Bass Quake\Bass Quake - Bass After Shock - 01 - Bass Quake.wav
  Secure  [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
  CRC32: 78AC349D

Track 2:  Ripped LBA 5772 to 27515 (4:49) in 0:26. Filename: K:\DBPWRAMP_EXT_AUDIO\Bass Quake\Bass Quake - Bass After Shock - 02 - Quad's Up.wav
  Secure  [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
  CRC32: DAFD681B

Track 3:  Ripped LBA 27515 to 44732 (3:49) in 0:19. Filename: K:\DBPWRAMP_EXT_AUDIO\Bass Quake\Bass Quake - Bass After Shock - 03 - 30 Below.wav
  Secure  [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
  CRC32: 83207619

Track 4:  Ripped LBA 44732 to 60782 (3:34) in 0:16. Filename: K:\DBPWRAMP_EXT_AUDIO\Bass Quake\Bass Quake - Bass After Shock - 04 - Bass 2 Bass.wav
  Secure  [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
  CRC32: 4C7EE209

Track 5:  Ripped LBA 60782 to 79090 (4:04) in 0:17. Filename: K:\DBPWRAMP_EXT_AUDIO\Bass Quake\Bass Quake - Bass After Shock - 05 - Bass Supply.wav
  Secure  [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
  CRC32: C10F3211

Track 6:  Ripped LBA 79090 to 100995 (4:52) in 0:19. Filename: K:\DBPWRAMP_EXT_AUDIO\Bass Quake\Bass Quake - Bass After Shock - 06 - Richter Scales.wav
  Secure  [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
  CRC32: 65630459

Track 7:  Ripped LBA 100995 to 117700 (3:42) in 0:14. Filename: K:\DBPWRAMP_EXT_AUDIO\Bass Quake\Bass Quake - Bass After Shock - 07 - Boom Boom Boom.wav
  Secure  [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
  CRC32: A99E7D0B

Track 8:  Ripped LBA 117700 to 139525 (4:51) in 0:17. Filename: K:\DBPWRAMP_EXT_AUDIO\Bass Quake\Bass Quake - Bass After Shock - 08 - Underground Bass.wav
  Secure  [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
  CRC32: 37285062

Track 9:  Ripped LBA 139525 to 155282 (3:30) in 0:12. Filename: K:\DBPWRAMP_EXT_AUDIO\Bass Quake\Bass Quake - Bass After Shock - 09 - Fool 4 da Bass.wav
  Secure  [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
  CRC32: 00322FB1

Track 10:  Ripped LBA 155282 to 174697 (4:18) in 0:14. Filename: K:\DBPWRAMP_EXT_AUDIO\Bass Quake\Bass Quake - Bass After Shock - 10 - Sub Sonix.wav
  Secure  [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
  CRC32: A949A424

Track 11:  Ripped LBA 174697 to 192770 (4:00) in 0:13. Filename: K:\DBPWRAMP_EXT_AUDIO\Bass Quake\Bass Quake - Bass After Shock - 11 - Liquid Bass.wav
  Secure  [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
  CRC32: 8DC2D683

Track 12:  Ripped LBA 192770 to 198590 (1:17) in 0:04. Filename: K:\DBPWRAMP_EXT_AUDIO\Bass Quake\Bass Quake - Bass After Shock - 12 - Tremors.wav
  Secure  [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
  CRC32: 846E1A57

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12 Tracks Ripped Securely

Btw, amazingly FUA works and is detected perfectly with this, non-Plextor drive.

Now, I know that this disc is not in the accuraterip database unfortunately, but when I ripped this disc with the PX-716UF listed at the top with Plextools, plextools reported NO ERRORS whatsoever --level 5 error correction was used in Plextools (the latest version 2.35).  And not only this, but the rip in Plextools matched the rips exactly as per extracted with dBpowerAMP with my LITE-ON drive as confirmed by EAC V0.9 beta4 using the compare wav feature (there were no discrepancies here).

Yes different drives have different error correction and ability to read scratched discs; however, the fact that Plextools was able to perfectly rip the same disc that dBpowerAMP perfectly ripped with the LITE-ON, which resulted in massive errors when using that same Plextor drive with dBpowerAMP, suggests to me, that the Plextools software is still somehow optimizing the error correction/laser focus/reading capability with the Plextor drive, to a greater degree than dBpowerAMP is able to fully exploit the capabilities of that same drive.

I hope this info is useful to you to help perfect your program to make it 100% rock solid reliable in every possible situation.  Finally --here is a log of the same disc attempting to extract with my internal drive.  I may also try it with EAC later and post the log for you to look at, haven't had the chance yet.

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dBpowerAMP Release 12 Alpha 7 Digital Audio Extraction Log from Friday, October 20, 2006 11:23 PM

Drive & Settings
----------------

Ripping with drive 'G:   [PLEXTOR  - DVDR   PX-716SA v1.09 ]',  Drive offset: 30,  Overread Lead-in/out: Yes
AccurateRip: Active,  Using C2: Yes,  Cache: None,  FUA Cache Invalidate: Yes
Pass 1 Drive Speed: Max,  Pass 2 Drive Speed: Max
Ultra::  Vary Drive Speed: No,  Min Passes: 1,  Max Passes: 6,  Finish After Clean Passes: 1
Bad Sector Re-rip::  Drive Speed: Max,  Maximum Re-reads: 700

Encoder: Wave -compression="PCM"

Extraction Log
--------------

Track 1:  Ripped LBA 0 to 5772 (1:16) in 0:11. Filename: K:\DBPWRAMP_EXT_AUDIO\Bass Quake\Bass Quake - Bass After Shock - 01 - Bass Quake.wav
  Secure (Warning)  [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1, Re-Rip 1 Frames]
  CRC32: 78AC349D
    Re-rip Frame: 1425 (00:00:19.000) matched 10 / 11  (c2 dropped 4)

Track 2:  Ripped LBA 5772 to 27515 (4:49) in 0:39. Filename: K:\DBPWRAMP_EXT_AUDIO\Bass Quake\Bass Quake - Bass After Shock - 02 - Quad's Up.wav
  Secure (Warning)  [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1, Re-Rip 2 Frames]
  CRC32: DAFD681B
    Re-rip Frame: 9624 (00:00:51.360) matched 10 / 11  (c2 dropped 8)
    Re-rip Frame: 9701 (00:00:52.386) matched 10 / 11  (c2 dropped 11)

Track 3:  Ripped LBA 27515 to 44732 (3:49) in 0:27. Filename: K:\DBPWRAMP_EXT_AUDIO\Bass Quake\Bass Quake - Bass After Shock - 03 - 30 Below.wav
  Secure  [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
  CRC32: 83207619

Track 4:  Ripped LBA 44732 to 60782 (3:34) in 0:23. Filename: K:\DBPWRAMP_EXT_AUDIO\Bass Quake\Bass Quake - Bass After Shock - 04 - Bass 2 Bass.wav
  Secure  [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
  CRC32: 4C7EE209

Track 5:  Ripped LBA 60782 to 79090 (4:04) in 0:27. Filename: K:\DBPWRAMP_EXT_AUDIO\Bass Quake\Bass Quake - Bass After Shock - 05 - Bass Supply.wav
  Secure (Warning)  [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1, Re-Rip 3 Frames]
  CRC32: C10F3211
    Re-rip Frame: 70553 (00:02:10.280) matched 10 / 11  (c2 dropped 7)
    Re-rip Frame: 70680 (00:02:11.973) matched 10 / 11  (c2 dropped 3)
    Re-rip Frame: 70681 (00:02:11.986) matched 10 / 11  (c2 dropped 13)

Track 6:  Ripped LBA 79090 to 100995 (4:52) in 0:28. Filename: K:\DBPWRAMP_EXT_AUDIO\Bass Quake\Bass Quake - Bass After Shock - 06 - Richter Scales.wav
  Secure  [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
  CRC32: 65630459

Track 7:  Ripped LBA 100995 to 117700 (3:42) in 0:20. Filename: K:\DBPWRAMP_EXT_AUDIO\Bass Quake\Bass Quake - Bass After Shock - 07 - Boom Boom Boom.wav
  Secure  [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
  CRC32: A99E7D0B

Track 8:  Ripped LBA 117700 to 139525 (4:51) in 0:25. Filename: K:\DBPWRAMP_EXT_AUDIO\Bass Quake\Bass Quake - Bass After Shock - 08 - Underground Bass.wav
  Secure  [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
  CRC32: 37285062

Track 9:  Ripped LBA 139525 to 155282 (3:30) in 8:41. Filename: K:\DBPWRAMP_EXT_AUDIO\Bass Quake\Bass Quake - Bass After Shock - 09 - Fool 4 da Bass.wav
  Insecure  [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1, Re-Rip 75 Frames]
  CRC32: FFE82135
    Re-rip Frame: 141780 (00:00:30.066). Insecure  (c2 dropped 700)
    Re-rip Frame: 141796 (00:00:30.280) matched 10 / 11  (c2 dropped 39)
    Re-rip Frame: 141811 (00:00:30.480) matched 10 / 12  (c2 dropped 469)
    Re-rip Frame: 141812 (00:00:30.493). Insecure  (c2 dropped 694) [c2 best match]
    Re-rip Frame: 142361 (00:00:37.813) matched 10 / 11  (c2 dropped 36)
    Re-rip Frame: 142377 (00:00:38.026) matched 10 / 11  (c2 dropped 261)
    Re-rip Frame: 142392 (00:00:38.226) matched 10 / 12  (c2 dropped 122)
    Re-rip Frame: 142393 (00:00:38.240) matched 10 / 12  (c2 dropped 416)
    Re-rip Frame: 142408 (00:00:38.440) matched 10 / 12  (c2 dropped 193)
    Re-rip Frame: 142424 (00:00:38.653). Insecure  (c2 dropped 693) [c2 best match]
    Re-rip Frame: 142439 (00:00:38.853) matched 10 / 12  (c2 dropped 46)
    Re-rip Frame: 142440 (00:00:38.866) matched 10 / 12  (c2 dropped 160)
    Re-rip Frame: 142455 (00:00:39.066) matched 10 / 12  (c2 dropped 279)
    Re-rip Frame: 142471 (00:00:39.280). Insecure  (c2 dropped 700)
    Re-rip Frame: 142487 (00:00:39.493). Insecure  (c2 dropped 700)
    Re-rip Frame: 142502 (00:00:39.693) matched 10 / 12  (c2 dropped 340)
    Re-rip Frame: 142503 (00:00:39.706) matched 10 / 12  (c2 dropped 611)
    Re-rip Frame: 142518 (00:00:39.906). Insecure  (c2 dropped 700)
    Re-rip Frame: 142549 (00:00:40.320) matched 10 / 12  (c2 dropped 591)
    Re-rip Frame: 142550 (00:00:40.333). Insecure  (c2 dropped 700)
    Re-rip Frame: 143179 (00:00:48.720) matched 10 / 11  (c2 dropped 8)
    Re-rip Frame: 143194 (00:00:48.920) matched 10 / 11  (c2 dropped 11)
    Re-rip Frame: 143210 (00:00:49.133) matched 10 / 11  (c2 dropped 12)
    Re-rip Frame: 143572 (00:00:53.960) matched 10 / 12  (c2 dropped 1)
    Re-rip Frame: 143573 (00:00:53.973) matched 10 / 12  (c2 dropped 9)
    Re-rip Frame: 143588 (00:00:54.173) matched 10 / 12  (c2 dropped 68)
    Re-rip Frame: 143604 (00:00:54.386) matched 10 / 12  (c2 dropped 58)
    Re-rip Frame: 143620 (00:00:54.600) matched 10 / 11  (c2 dropped 363)
    Re-rip Frame: 143635 (00:00:54.800) matched 10 / 12  (c2 dropped 10)
    Re-rip Frame: 143636 (00:00:54.813) matched 10 / 11  (c2 dropped 12)
    Re-rip Frame: 143651 (00:00:55.013) matched 10 / 11  (c2 dropped 2)
    Re-rip Frame: 144061 (00:01:00.480) matched 10 / 11  (c2 dropped 5)
    Re-rip Frame: 144140 (00:01:01.533) matched 10 / 11  (c2 dropped 2)
    Re-rip Frame: 144219 (00:01:02.586) matched 10 / 11  (c2 dropped 19)
    Re-rip Frame: 144266 (00:01:03.213) matched 10 / 11
    Re-rip Frame: 144377 (00:01:04.693) matched 10 / 11  (c2 dropped 10)
    Re-rip Frame: 144392 (00:01:04.893) matched 10 / 12  (c2 dropped 62)
    Re-rip Frame: 144408 (00:01:05.106) matched 10 / 12  (c2 dropped 52)
    Re-rip Frame: 144440 (00:01:05.533) matched 10 / 12  (c2 dropped 128)
    Re-rip Frame: 144455 (00:01:05.733) matched 10 / 12  (c2 dropped 7)
    Re-rip Frame: 144456 (00:01:05.746) matched 10 / 12  (c2 dropped 57)
    Re-rip Frame: 144471 (00:01:05.946) matched 10 / 12  (c2 dropped 314)
    Re-rip Frame: 144472 (00:01:05.960) matched 10 / 11  (c2 dropped 36)
    Re-rip Frame: 144487 (00:01:06.160) matched 10 / 12  (c2 dropped 31)
    Re-rip Frame: 144519 (00:01:06.586) matched 10 / 11  (c2 dropped 26)
    Re-rip Frame: 144534 (00:01:06.786) matched 10 / 11
    Re-rip Frame: 144535 (00:01:06.800) matched 10 / 11  (c2 dropped 1)
    Re-rip Frame: 144550 (00:01:07.000) matched 10 / 11
    Re-rip Frame: 144551 (00:01:07.013) matched 10 / 11  (c2 dropped 4)
    Re-rip Frame: 145325 (00:01:17.333) matched 10 / 11
    Re-rip Frame: 145435 (00:01:18.800) matched 10 / 12  (c2 dropped 19)
    Re-rip Frame: 145436 (00:01:18.813) matched 10 / 12  (c2 dropped 15)
    Re-rip Frame: 145451 (00:01:19.013) matched 10 / 12  (c2 dropped 127)
    Re-rip Frame: 145452 (00:01:19.026) matched 10 / 12  (c2 dropped 473)
    Re-rip Frame: 145467 (00:01:19.226) matched 10 / 11  (c2 dropped 2)
    Re-rip Frame: 145483 (00:01:19.440) matched 10 / 11  (c2 dropped 10)
    Re-rip Frame: 145499 (00:01:19.653) matched 10 / 12  (c2 dropped 10)
    Re-rip Frame: 145515 (00:01:19.866) matched 10 / 11  (c2 dropped 1)
    Re-rip Frame: 145879 (00:01:24.720) matched 10 / 11
    Re-rip Frame: 145895 (00:01:24.933) matched 10 / 12  (c2 dropped 24)
    Re-rip Frame: 145910 (00:01:25.133). Insecure  (c2 dropped 694) [c2 best match]
    Re-rip Frame: 145911 (00:01:25.146). Insecure  (c2 dropped 695) [c2 best match]
    Re-rip Frame: 145926 (00:01:25.346) matched 10 / 11  (c2 dropped 1)
    Re-rip Frame: 145927 (00:01:25.360) matched 10 / 11  (c2 dropped 5)
    Re-rip Frame: 145942 (00:01:25.560) matched 10 / 12  (c2 dropped 331)
    Re-rip Frame: 145958 (00:01:25.773) matched 10 / 12  (c2 dropped 2)
    Re-rip Frame: 145974 (00:01:25.986) matched 10 / 11  (c2 dropped 10)
    Re-rip Frame: 145990 (00:01:26.200). Insecure  (c2 dropped 691) [c2 best match]
    Re-rip Frame: 146005 (00:01:26.400) matched 10 / 11  (c2 dropped 41)
    Re-rip Frame: 146006 (00:01:26.413) matched 10 / 11  (c2 dropped 274)
    Re-rip Frame: 146053 (00:01:27.040) matched 10 / 12  (c2 dropped 50)
    Re-rip Frame: 146069 (00:01:27.253). Insecure  (c2 dropped 698) [c2 best match]
    Re-rip Frame: 146085 (00:01:27.466) matched 10 / 12  (c2 dropped 78)
    Re-rip Frame: 146148 (00:01:28.306) matched 10 / 11  (c2 dropped 3)
    Re-rip Frame: 146196 (00:01:28.946) matched 10 / 12  (c2 dropped 2)

Track 10:  Ripped LBA 155282 to 174697 (4:18) in 0:20. Filename: K:\DBPWRAMP_EXT_AUDIO\Bass Quake\Bass Quake - Bass After Shock - 10 - Sub Sonix.wav
  Secure  [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
  CRC32: A949A424

Track 11:  Ripped LBA 174697 to 192770 (4:00) in 0:18. Filename: K:\DBPWRAMP_EXT_AUDIO\Bass Quake\Bass Quake - Bass After Shock - 11 - Liquid Bass.wav
  Secure  [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
  CRC32: 8DC2D683

Track 12:  Ripped LBA 192770 to 198590 (1:17) in 0:05. Filename: K:\DBPWRAMP_EXT_AUDIO\Bass Quake\Bass Quake - Bass After Shock - 12 - Tremors.wav
  Secure  [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
  CRC32: 846E1A57

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12 Tracks Ripped: 8 Secure, 3 Secure (Warning), 1 Inaccurate

sp  --data not daya

Also  --The files extracted by both the Lite-ON as well as the troublesome tracks (particularly track 9) extracted by Plextools, played back perfectly with no pops or clicks.

Secure Ripper Test (part 2 concise results)

Reply #174 –
Below is an Extraction Log from a CD that I ripped earlier, the CD is not in Accurate Rip.

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dBpowerAMP Release 12 Alpha 7 Digital Audio Extraction Log from 22 October 2006 5:00 PM

Drive & Settings
----------------

Ripping with drive 'D:   [PLEXTOR  - DVDR   PX-760A  ]',  Drive offset: 30,  Overread Lead-in/out: No
AccurateRip: Active,  Using C2: Yes,  Cache: None,  FUA Cache Invalidate: Yes
Pass 1 Drive Speed: Max,  Pass 2 Drive Speed: Max
Ultra::  Vary Drive Speed: Yes,  Min Passes: 3,  Max Passes: 6,  Finish After Clean Passes: 2
Bad Sector Re-rip::  Drive Speed: Max,  Maximum Re-reads: 34

Encoder: Wave -compression="PCM"

Extraction Log
--------------

Track 1:  Ripped LBA 33 to 16233 (3:36) in 1:58. Filename: K:\- Track 1.wav
  Secure  [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 3]
  CRC32: FB3D1C1A

Track 2:  Ripped LBA 16233 to 60933 (9:56) in 5:03. Filename: K:\- Track 2.wav
  Secure  [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 3]
  CRC32: F6718546

Track 3:  Ripped LBA 60933 to 86508 (5:41) in 2:50. Filename: K:\- Track 3.wav
  Secure  [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 3]
  CRC32: F6BDC1DE

Track 4:  Ripped LBA 86508 to 118083 (7:01) in 3:25. Filename: K:\- Track 4.wav
  Secure  [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 3]
  CRC32: A9A982D7

Track 5:  Ripped LBA 118083 to 141758 (5:15) in 2:32. Filename: K:\- Track 5.wav
  Secure  [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 3]
  CRC32: 83589822

Track 6:  Ripped LBA 141758 to 166283 (5:27) in 2:37. Filename: K:\- Track 6.wav
  Secure  [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 3]
  CRC32: 0E9A7540

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6 Tracks Ripped Securely

I have C2 enabled. Should the Extraction Log make any reference to C2 errors at all (how many errors there were etc)? I have selected the "Detailed" option in R12 for Extraction Logs. I've noticed other logs posted here also detail "Re-ripped Frames" but my logs don't - anything to worry about or will errors only show up in the log if there was any?