Audibility of "typical" Digital Filters in a Hi-Fi Playback
Reply #959 – 2014-12-04 21:00:25
Now the next step in the dance: Can't wait...Do you specifically agree that when the industry promotes hi rez to consumers, it touts *quite notable* or even *obvious* 'improved fidelity' -- not a 'very small incremental' improvement? This is 'inflation' from the industry side. What "industry?" Audio/Video? If so, marketing is the name of the game. This is a money losing, high-competitive business. Every TV manufacturer sells "LED TVs" yet there is no such animal. It is an LCD TV that its backlight has been replaced with LED. They pretend the rest of is also changed as to entice you to buy a new TV. They talk about 1,000,000:1 contrast ratio where the reality is 1,000:1 due to the obvious way they cheat there. Do we go and pollute every technical video discussion by ranting about this? I sure hope not. I assume this is a technical form. People come here to learn about how the technology works. They don't come here for the millionth time to read about your angst with high-end marketing in general, and high-resolution marketing in the specific. This is a very technical topic. One that is outside of your area of expertise. But you still want to be known as a mover and shaker so you have decided to make it cause célèbre. Ah yes, let's cry over how high-res is marketed. Every high-end hotel I go to has a bottle of Fiji water in the room now that it says is there for my "convenience." Fine print says they will charge me $5 for that small bottle of water. It is what they do to make money. It is like expensive popcorn in theaters. That is the way they make money. Who asked you to pick up the cause to complain about equiv. in audio in every technical thread? And why in the heck do you think by doing so with me you are scoring some point? You think I have not heard this argument? You think I don't know the argument? I Know it. And despite that, I hold the strong position that this development, availability of high-resolution audio download is good for us. Your myopic, self-serving attitude of propping your position in audio forums is not material to me. If your answer is 'yes', then 'hi rez' specification really is a sideshow to the main event, and your answer here is akin to carnival barking.....: How fast you prove my point above. You go from a technical statement to a PR spin. Said spin is wrong anyway Steven. You have to listen for a moment what is being explained. That by establishing a new distribution channel, and one whose sole reason for existence is satisfying high-fidelity customers, the requirement for loudness compression goes away. No longer do we have to settle for what the mass consumer wants. Toyota created the Lexus brand so that it can put luxury features in its cars. And not care about absolute price elasticity. You want to highlight something with a magic marker, the above is it. Everything else you say is in the service of trying to keep yourself and your arguments relevant. ....because if we have no 'assurances' that the 'improved fidelity' *won't* just be just the 'very small, incremental' bump that the specification alone gives us, then why are we being promised otherwise? It has broken that promise before, with DVD-A and SACDs and HD tracks that were not notably better sourced or mastered than the CD version -- and sometimes were even 'worse'. So because you don't have an assurance you want the new option to be foreclosed for all distributors and all listeners? What illogical thinking. There are no assurances anywhere. You have to a smart shopper. Nissan makes an SUV that is very unreliable compared to the rest of their fleet. Do we get to write-ff Nissan and Japanese car reliability because the "assurance" was broken? Of course not. You can get what you want. Or I should say what I want. THat is, instead of spending all of our time wasting it with your lay, self-serving arguments, we use it to discuss with each other the fidelity of new releases. We can machine analyze them and compare them subjectively. Then we can choose to spend our money or not. And it is not like anyone gives a you know what, what is being discussed on this topic anyway. The industry marketing is not exactly monitoring idiot rants on forums and go and change what they do. So you are wasting everyone's time with tired lay arguments of no value.