Audibility of "typical" Digital Filters in a Hi-Fi Playback
Reply #507 – 2014-11-23 05:11:57
Are you ever going to stop trying to shift the burden of proof? Again, it makes you look retarded and impossible to take seriously. Your deluded statements do not help your case either. You may even be partially right, but no one here is going to take you seriously the way you state your case. I am not an engineer so I do not understand the technical details, but I do not need to if one side of this never ending debate is clearly irrational. You lose by default. It's getting old. Shift the burden of proof? Proof has been provided. Every DBT thrown at me I have taken and passed. We now are discussing double blind published study that has shown across 160 trials to better than 95% statistical confidence that listeners could hear difference between high resolution source and filtered one. The burden is all yours to prove otherwise. And why do you think you were on the other side of the fence ever? I know we have convinced ourselves in forums that such proof can't exist. But that is symptom of living in a bubble, not reality. I can cite paper after paper that demonstrates CD can lack transparency. Here is professor Vanderkooy who despite his high qualification, is more on you all's side:J. Vanderkooy. A digital-domain listening test for high-resolution. AES 129th Convention, San Fransisco, 2010. At the outset, let me state my bias that CD-quality audio (44.1 kHz, 16 bit) is essentially transparent. Under pristine conditions it may just be possible to hear residual channel noise. [..] My colleagues and I have done some fairly good tests ourselves, and while we cannot say definitively that good digital systems all sound alike , the significance of any differences were minor in our assessment. Clearly better tests are needed , and this proposal seeks to garner broad support for a new test concept. And so a better test was developed which is the topic of this thread. The above is reference [7] in Stuart's paper out of 35. Yes, 35 references. And you thought that work can be dismissed out of hand like that? Burden of proof? Really? So please excuse me for once again being disappointed in another emotional outburst instead of a constructive technical contribution. Is there no hope that this forum acts professionally and the discussion remains on topic than personal? Edit: typos.