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Does my CD/DVD drive, hp CDDVDW TS-H653R, Cache Data?
I am a complete newbie about ripping and don't much about my drive. 

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Nero InfoTool 5.3.3.0
Drive Information
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Drive hp CDDVDW TS-H653R
Type DVD±R/RW DL Recorder
Firmware Version 0K00
Buffer Size 2 MB
Date ?
Serial Number R3796GEZ930804
Vendor Specific 0726 EZ930804
Drive Letter E:\
Location 0:0
Mechanism Tray
Read Speed 16 , 8 X
Write Speed n/a
Read CD Text Yes
Return C2 Pointers Yes
Read CD-R Yes
Read CD-RW Yes
Read DVD-ROM Yes
Read DVD-RAM Yes
Read DVD-R Yes
Read DVD-RW Yes
Read DVD-R DL Yes
Read DVD+R Yes
Read DVD+RW Yes
Read DVD+R DL Yes
Read BD-ROM No
Read BD-R No
Read BD-RE No
Read HD DVD-ROM No
Read HD DVD-R No
Read HD DVD-R DL No
Read HD DVD-RAM No
Read HD DVD-RW No
Read HD DVD-RW DL No
Read HD-BURN No
Read Digital Audio Yes
Read CD+G Yes
Read VideoCD Yes
Write CD-R Yes
Write CD-RW Yes
Write DVD-R Yes
Write DVD-RW Yes
Write DVD-R DL Yes
Write DVD+R Yes
Write DVD+RW Yes
Write DVD+R DL Yes
Write DVD-RAM No
Write DVD-RAM Yes
Write BD-R No
Write BD-RE No
Write HD DVD-R No
Write HD DVD-R DL No
Write HD DVD-RAM No
Write HD DVD-RW No
Write HD DVD-RW DL No
Write HD-BURN-R No
Write HD-BURN-RW No
Buffer Underrun Protection Yes
Mount Rainier No
SolidBurn No
Labelflash No
LightScribe Yes
Modes Packet, TAO, DAO, SAO, RAW SAO, RAW SAO 16, RAW SAO 96, RAW DAO 16, RAW DAO 96
Region Protection Control RPC II
Region 1
Changes User 4
Changes Vendor 4
CSS Yes
CPRM Yes
AACS No
VCPS No
Here is a logfile of Abbey Road. I've obviously edited this for room.
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Exact Audio Copy V1.0 beta 1 from 15. November 2010

EAC extraction logfile from 7. February 2011, 15:58

The Beatles / Abbey Road [2009 stereo remaster]

Used drive  : hp      CDDVDW TS-H653R  Adapter: 0  ID: 0

Read mode              : Secure
Utilize accurate stream : Yes
Defeat audio cache      : No
Make use of C2 pointers : No

Read offset correction                      : 6
Overread into Lead-In and Lead-Out          : No
Fill up missing offset samples with silence : Yes
Delete leading and trailing silent blocks  : No
Null samples used in CRC calculations      : Yes
Used interface                              : Native Win32 interface for Win NT & 2000
Gap handling                                : Appended to previous track

Used output format              : User Defined Encoder
Selected bitrate                : 1024 kBit/s
Quality                        : High
Add ID3 tag                    : No
Command line compressor        : C:\Program Files (x86)\Exact Audio Copy\FLAC\FLAC.EXE
Additional command line options : -V -8 -T "artist=%a" -T "title=%t" -T "album=%g" -T "date=%y"
 -T "tracknumber=%n" -T "genre=%m" %s

Track  1

     Filename C:\EAC\01. Come Together.wav

     Pre-gap length  0:00:02.00

     Peak level 95.8 %
     Extraction speed 3.6 X
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC 0CF2E6E7
     Copy CRC 0CF2E6E7
     Accurately ripped (confidence 17)  [9206C69F]
     Copy OK

(The rest are all like this.)

All tracks accurately ripped

No errors occurred

End of status report
Out of the 10 discs I've recently tried, only 3, including this one, had all the tracks accurately ripped with no errors. They sounded great. The others had about 1 or 2 songs with errors. On one disc, Coldplay-Parachutes, every song but the last one ripped. Everyone used error correction quite a bit (these aren't new cds). All WAVS were converted to FLAC.

I orginally ripped some other cds with this guide - http://carltonbale.com/cd-audio-extraction, and had similar results. But, for these discs, I used this guide - http://blowfish.be/eac/Setup/setup1.html, which seemed to be more serious and accurate. Is this an ok guide to go by? 

I know that drive caching is important for proper rips but this is a brand new drive and I don't want to damage it which is why I'm asking you for some possible information on it. I've done some searching and checked out http://www.daefeatures.co.uk but cannot find my drive on there.

Thanks for any help you can give me. 
  • Last Edit: 14 February, 2011, 03:16:15 AM by greynol

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Reply #1
I gave you an answer over at the official EAC forum but will repeat it here:
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All you need to do is run EAC's internal test.

Drive Options (F10) -> Extraction Method tab -> Detect Read Features...

For EAC guides see here:
http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?ti...gory:EAC_Guides
13 February 2016: The world was blessed with the passing of a truly vile and wretched person.

Your eyes cannot hear.

Does my CD/DVD drive, hp CDDVDW TS-H653R, Cache Data?
Reply #2
Oh, thank you very much. But what I forgot to mention in the post (it was so long ) is that I did the test and it said that it doesn't. But I've heard that the EAC test is inaccurate. I've tried Spath's Cache Explorer and FEURIO! but I can't seem to get either one to work for me (Windows 7 64-bit). I tried this test from the WikiHydrogenAudio;

Tip #1: If you're concerned that your drive caches audio data even though EAC is saying otherwise, try ripping a scratched disc (one known to produce errors easily). Make sure you uncheck the "Drive caches audio data" setting AND uncheck the "Drive is capable of retrieving C2 error information" setting. Make sure you also set the error recovery quality to "Low". If EAC is capable of displaying a read error then cache flushing isn't necessary.

I changed the settings and put a really bad cd in and it detected the error. Can this be relied on?

If you have any more info. please post. Thank you. 
  • Last Edit: 14 February, 2011, 04:07:24 AM by Deverica Wolf

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Reply #3
But I've heard that the EAC test is inaccurate.
Don't believe everything you hear.

I changed the settings and put a really bad cd in and it detected the error.
It needs to be a read error; sync errors do not count.

Can this be relied on?
Based on the way EAC requests data and checks for errors, yes, absolutely.
13 February 2016: The world was blessed with the passing of a truly vile and wretched person.

Your eyes cannot hear.

Does my CD/DVD drive, hp CDDVDW TS-H653R, Cache Data?
Reply #4
Yes, they were read errors. Thank you for your help. 

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Reply #5
You're welcome.    Congratulations on having discovered that you can safely tell EAC that your drive doesn't cache audio data!
13 February 2016: The world was blessed with the passing of a truly vile and wretched person.

Your eyes cannot hear.