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Pioneer DVR-116D

As determined by EAC 0.99pb4


Manufacturer: PIONEER
Type: DVD-RW
Model: DVR-116D
Accurate Stream: YES
Caching: YES (*)
C2 Error Info: YES
Read Command: MMC 1 (Autodetected by EAC)
Gap Detection Mode: A, Secure
Read Offset Correction: +96
Overread: NO
HTOA: ??? (1)
Write Offset: +18
Write UPC/ISRC: YES (2)
Write CD-Text: YES (2)
Firmware Revision: 1.08 (3)
Manufacture Date of Unit: October 2008


EAC 0.99pb4 with Native Win32 interface.
Parallel ATA IDE interface.


(1) I haven't been able to check for HTOA (Hidden Track One Audio) support because I don't think I have an audio CD that has it.  Is there a list of such audio CDs somewhere?

(2) Even though EAC says it can't write UPC/ISRC or CD-Text, I have been able to write these using Nero.  So either, EAC detected wrong with this drive, or it cannot use said features with this drive.

(3) There is a firmware v1.09 available, but it is to update the drive to work well with Windows Vista installations.  That's the only real major difference between v. 1.08 and 1.09.  I wasn't using the DVR-116D with Windows Vista, so I left it at 1.08

(*) While the DVR-116D supposedly caches audio data, I've had great success using EAC with the following modifications/settings:

Secure Mode - Drive Caches Audio Data UNCHECKED

Spin Up Drive Before Extraction CHECKED ON

Speed Selection --> Actual

Allow Speed Reduction During Extraction UNCHECKED

That's right, even though EAC detects caching audio data, I turned that part off. Leaving it on made the maximum rip rate 8x.  With it off, I got much higher speed rips while maintaining quality.

With those settings, I've been able to rip dozens of CDs with excellent AccurateRip results at 20x to 28x speed.  These have been popular CDs so I got AccurateRip results with confidence levels of 30 or more.


Pioneer DVR-116D

Reply #1
Ripping with a caching drive without flushing is essentially no different than ripping in burst mode.

The only way you can be sure you have a secure rip with the drive configured as you have it is if you get AR verification, the track quality is 100% or you have a matching pair of test and copy CRCs.  Oops, if you're also using C2 pointers, then track quality of 100% is still no guarantee.  You'll have to rely on AR or a second CRC.

Honestly, you're better off using burst mode, at least this way you aren't going to be fooling yourself into thinking that your current configuration is ok; it's not.