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Easy CD-DA Extractor

I've been trying to find any useful information about CD-DA but can't seem to find any so I've come here to hopefully get some decent answers.

How decent of an app is this for ripping V0 mp3's?  I haven't found a way to get a cue file unless you rip as single track and don't have an option for a Log that I can find (but I don're really care about those options too much).

I want to know how it stacks up against EAC, with real answers (not just EAC is the best hands down replies).  CD-DA uses LAME 3.97 so the encoder is the same, so I want to know what it lacks in ripping a CD that EAC would do better.

The main complaint I have with EAC is speed. It ripped at 1.2X last night trying to do a V0 rip and I can do the same V0 rip with CD-DA at about 4.5X saving myself atleast 20 minutes per CD.  I work full time and commute so I don't have a lot of time to sit at the PC and rip mp3's so faster is a major bonus.

I also love that CD-DA lets you select a default rip folder and then creates new folders however you want for each CD you rip.  With EAC it lets you choose a folder but never seems to create a subfolder for each CD, or you have to manually create a folder each time.  Is there any way to get EAC to copy this sort of functionality?

I don't intend doing FLAC rips in CD-DA even though it has the option for it with version 10.  However when I tried with EAC it also went at 1.2X and took nearly an hour, I have a lot of stuff I want to rip and this sort of time makes it a far bigger project then I ever want to take on or have time for.  I have a P3 2.4Ghz processor with 2GB DDR RAM and an HP DVD Writer 630 with a CD read speed of 40X and no other applications other than AVG and DU Meter running while I rip, so I can't explain the slowness.

Any info on CD-DA, further improving EAC to rip to dynamic folders, and decreasing rip time with EAC would be great, plus comments on why EAC is the preferred ripper over CD-DA and others.

Thanks

Easy CD-DA Extractor

Reply #1 –
Quote from: Six66Mike on
I want to know what it lacks in ripping a CD that EAC would do better.
The first thing that comes to mind is EAC is able to use AccurateRip. Easy CD-DA Extractor will never be able to use AccurateRip.

Quote from: Six66Mike on
The main complaint I have with EAC is speed.
What does EAC detect for your drive's read features?  Did you try burst with test and copy?

Quote from: Six66Mike on
With EAC it lets you choose a folder but never seems to create a subfolder for each CD, or you have to manually create a folder each time.  Is there any way to get EAC to copy this sort of functionality?
Yes.

Easy CD-DA Extractor

Reply #2 –
I've got it configured exactly to the guide here: http://jiggafellz.isa-geek.net/eac/

AccurateRip detected the offset as +618 which is what it says on the AccurateRip site as well, but it still goes very slow.  The same CD minutes later will rip 4.5X or higher with CD-DA so the physical drive seems to be fine.

As far as I remember and according to the guide above, I have been ripping in Secure mode instead of burst mode, and I haven't seen a Test & Copy option.

If there's a way for EAC to create folder based on your own template and it auto-rips to the newly created folder each time like CD-DA, I'd love to know how to set that option

Easy CD-DA Extractor

Reply #3 –
Quote from: Six66Mike on
I've got it configured exactly to the guide here: http://jiggafellz.isa-geek.net/eac/
The guy responsible for that site is utterly clueless.  Check the wiki.

Quote from: Six66Mike on
I haven't seen a Test & Copy option.
F6, Shift+F6, or check under the Action menu.

Quote from: Six66Mike on
If there's a way for EAC to create folder based on your own template and it auto-rips to the newly created folder each time like CD-DA, I'd love to know how to set that option
Dig into the program.  I'm sure you can figure it out ok.

Easy CD-DA Extractor

Reply #4 –
Thanks I'll give the guides a try with a clean install to purge what I have and see if it speeds up to a reasonable time, especially the FLAC rip times.

The digging done so far hasn't come up with much but when I get home after work tonight I'll see how I go, thanks!

Easy CD-DA Extractor

Reply #6 –
I just have a H:\Mp3\Temp folder so CD-DA is configured to rip a cd to H:\Mp3\Temp\Artist -Year- Title and the filename structure is Artist -track- Title which I have got in EAC without a problem, it's the folder name I haven't been able to figure out.

I'd like EAC to do the same thing, H:\Mp3\Temp\Artist -Year- Title\tracks

Easy CD-DA Extractor

Reply #7 –
EAC Options -> Directories tab:
Select "Use this directory" and enter H:\Mp3\Temp\

EAC Options -> Filename tab:
Under "Naming scheme" enter
%D -%Y- %C\%N - %T
(assuming you want the track number and you want it before the track title)

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Reply #8 –
I figured it would be something like that but couldn't figure out what.  I'll give the guides a try and let you know if it improves the rip speed of FLAC or mp3.

Thanks

Easy CD-DA Extractor

Reply #9 –
Followed the guide you linked and using the command line from the guide here instead.

I was using Shift+F6 to rip the other night so tonight I just went F6 so it's still in secure mode and now uncompressed.

It's now going at 2.2X instead of 1.2X so it's increased a bit to rip FLAC, once this is done I'll test an EP with the Mp3 settings and see if I can pinch that over 2.2X.  Still not earth shattering or anything but its an improvement and hopefully I can take it further still.  Thanks.

Easy CD-DA Extractor

Reply #10 –
What drive features did EAC detect?  Have you tried burst mode?

Assuming EAC said your drive has accurate stream, caches audio data and doesn't provide C2 pointers, have a look at this thread:
http://www.digital-inn.de/exact-audio-copy...erfect-rip.html

Easy CD-DA Extractor

Reply #11 –
Yeah accurate stream is there and it caches audio and it said no C2.

I stopped the uncompressed when I realized it was just doing WAV and no FLAC plus I saw your reply so I'm testing Shift+F5 burst mode instead.

Still 2.2X but instead of a 35 minute estimated time I get for Test & Copy compressed it now says around 18 mminutes for the burst mode.

It makes sense burst mode is quicker than secure mode and as long as there's no errors I don't care. 

So following the guide here I increased 1X but the overall time didn't change, switching from test & copy to burst kept the same rip speed but dropped the overall time good.

EDIT: 1 question though, should you create the CUE before or after ripping?

Easy CD-DA Extractor

Reply #12 –
Quote from: Six66Mike on
It makes sense burst mode is quicker than secure mode and as long as there's no errors I don't care and I don't think many people requesting will care either. I only went with Secure as it was the highest level so nobody coupld replace my torrent with their secure mode one

I'm assuming that you're not talking about requests for copyrighted material.  As indicated in TOS #9, this forum does not tolerate such activities.

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Reply #13 –
Naaaaw I would never do such a thing *fix*

Following the guides the V0 ripping is now going around 2.3X as well which is a bonus, will see how it goes in the end.

Easy CD-DA Extractor

Reply #14 –
Ok I ripped a Sick of It All album with CD-DA and EAC, both set to V0 and I get a higher quality rip out of CD-DA with LAME:

287kbps
33:04
67.79MB

EAC/LAME gives me:

258kbps
33:05
60.95MB

If it's going to give me slightly better bitrates and rip much quicker I think I'll stick with CD-DA even though nobody knows too much about it

I'll save EAC for FLAC rips only I suppose.

Easy CD-DA Extractor

Reply #15 –
Six66Mike, Easy CD-DA Extractor 11 uses LAME in totally wrong way! Default -q level is set to 5!!! If you use presets though, it uses -q 0, but still this is NOT the preset's default. Also, if you somehow manage to set it up so that it uses the same "command lines"/settings, you DO NOT get the same results as with official LAME 3.97. Version 10.X of Easy CD-DA Extractor WAS producing bit-identical results with LAME 3.97 (althought I think not even all subversions did). I suspect Easy CD-DA Extractor is using some custom LAME version (based on behaviour of LAME in EZCDDAX), which looks like a mixed version between 3.97 and 3.98 betas! I'm pretty sure Poikosoft is altering LAME code to meet their needs... That bothers me a lot! I would not recommend anyone to use this program until they go back to official LAME - that is IF they will ever do that again!
Poikosoft also claims that when you register, you get 15% speed increase with LAME encodings. I suspect they use -noasm until you register.

Anyway, to sum up, back in the days Easy CD-DA Extractor (version 5, if I remember correctly) was my favourite ripper, because it was the only one giving me pop-and-click-free rips with my old Creative optical drive, however, after the incident with AccurateRIP and with all this BS with LAME in new version I don't like it at all anymore!

That's my opinion...
lame -V 0

Easy CD-DA Extractor

Reply #16 –
I'm using CD-DA v10.0.6 with LAME 3.97 and I've changed the defaults.  Quality is on highest, samplerate is auto, variable bitrate is 0 and VBR mode is New VBR.  Unfortunately they don't let you have a peak at the LAME encoder or the user defined commands so it's hard to see how they are using it.

Easy CD-DA Extractor

Reply #17 –
A little bit off the question, but why not give another freeware a shot : our Ripstation Micro batch CD ripper

www.ripstationmicro.com

Great metadata with GD3 (including cover art)  , fast, and has all the features that you need.

It does require an email to register but totally free.

Easy CD-DA Extractor

Reply #18 –
Quote from: Ripfactory on
A little bit off the question, but why not give another freeware a shot : our Ripstation Micro batch CD ripper

www.ripstationmicro.com

Great metadata with GD3 (including cover art)  , fast, and has all the features that you need.

It does require an email to register but totally free.

So, were the reports of your death highly exaggerated?
http://podserve.blogspot.com/2007/03/ripfactory-rip.html

Easy CD-DA Extractor

Reply #19 –
Quote from: pdq on
Quote from: Ripfactory on

A little bit off the question, but why not give another freeware a shot : our Ripstation Micro batch CD ripper

www.ripstationmicro.com

Great metadata with GD3 (including cover art)  , fast, and has all the features that you need.

It does require an email to register but totally free.

So, were the reports of your death highly exaggerated?
http://podserve.blogspot.com/2007/03/ripfactory-rip.html


Well , that was almost a year ago and we're still here with more products and busier than ever.....that would be a yes.

Easy CD-DA Extractor

Reply #20 –
Does it use LAME encoding or something else, there's not much technical info there (not that I would understand half of it probably).  I just want to get easy, high quality extraction and encoding done for V0 and FLAC.

Easy CD-DA Extractor

Reply #21 –
Quote from: Six66Mike on
Does it use LAME encoding or something else, there's not much technical info there (not that I would understand half of it probably).  I just want to get easy, high quality extraction and encoding done for V0 and FLAC.


yes, Lame 3.97 and Flac