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APE+CUE

Hi!
I have downloaded a .APE file of about 400mb with the related cue.
What to use to split it in different traks?

Normally I use EAC to rip mi cds but i did not found an option to manage this problem.

What do you suggest?

Thanks

Giorgio

APE+CUE

Reply #3 –
foobar2000 can split it for you by loading the cue sheet (not the APE file) and converting the tracks to another format (such as APE or FLAC, whatever). If you use foobar2000 you don't actually need to split it though since it can just play each track using the cue sheet.

APE+CUE

Reply #4 –
Quote from: Borbus on
foobar2000 can split it for you by loading the cue sheet (not the APE file) and converting the tracks to another format (such as APE or FLAC, whatever). If you use foobar2000 you don't actually need to split it though since it can just play each track using the cue sheet.


Interesting. I have foobar2000 (basic without add-on) but I did not found the option for splitting.
I'll try again.

Thanks

APE+CUE

Reply #5 –
foobar does not need any additional components to deal with cuesheets; however it does to deal with APE files.  Download foo_input_monkey and put it in the /components folder.

Open the cuesheet in Notepad and ensure that the FILE statement correctly references your APE file.

Drag the cuesheet into a foobar playlist - foobar should list all tracks on the album.

To convert, select all tracks and choose "Convert" > "Convert To..." from the context (right-click) menu.

You can set up new Converter profiles in Preferences.  If you check the wiki I expect there are guides to help you.  You may be OK using one of the defaults though.

NB: If you are converting to MP3 tracks ensure you have LAME in your foobar folder, or a folder in PATH.
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APE+CUE

Reply #6 –
Quote from: Synthetic Soul on
foobar does not need any additional components to deal with cuesheets; however it does to deal with APE files.  Download foo_input_monkey and put it in the /components folder.

Open the cuesheet in Notepad and ensure that the FILE statement correctly references your APE file.

Drag the cuesheet into a foobar playlist - foobar should list all tracks on the album.

To convert, select all tracks and choose "Convert" > "Convert To..." from the context (right-click) menu.

You can set up new Converter profiles in Preferences.  If you check the wiki I expect there are guides to help you.  You may be OK using one of the defaults though.

NB: If you are converting to MP3 tracks ensure you have LAME in your foobar folder, or a folder in PATH.



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Thanks again

APE+CUE

Reply #7 –
Quote from: Synthetic Soul on
foobar does not need any additional components to deal with cuesheets; however it does to deal with APE files.  Download foo_input_monkey and put it in the /components folder.

Open the cuesheet in Notepad and ensure that the FILE statement correctly references your APE file.

Drag the cuesheet into a foobar playlist - foobar should list all tracks on the album.

To convert, select all tracks and choose "Convert" > "Convert To..." from the context (right-click) menu.

You can set up new Converter profiles in Preferences.  If you check the wiki I expect there are guides to help you.  You may be OK using one of the defaults though.

NB: If you are converting to MP3 tracks ensure you have LAME in your foobar folder, or a folder in PATH.


foo_input_monkey was already in the folder. Infact I play normally .ape files.
The Cuesheet has this description and should be ok:
PERFORMER "Various Artists"
TITLE "Café Del Mar Vol.1"
FILE "CDImage.ape" APE
TRACK 01 AUDIO
    TITLE "Agua"
    PERFORMER "Jose Padilla"
    INDEX 00 00:00:00
    INDEX 01 00:00:33
  TRACK 02 AUDIO
    TITLE "The Story Of Light"
    PERFORMER "William Orbit (Strange Cargo)"
    INDEX 00 07:37:38
    INDEX 01 07:39:48
  TRACK 03 AUDIO
    TITLE "Smokebelch II (Beatless Mix)"
    PERFORMER "Sabres Of Paradise"
    INDEX 00 13:55:15
    INDEX 01 13:57:20
  TRACK 04 AUDIO
    TITLE "Music For A Found Harmonium"
    PERFORMER "Penguin Cafe Orchestra"
    INDEX 00 18:13:18
    INDEX 01 18:14:63
  TRACK 05 AUDIO
    TITLE "Sundance"
    PERFORMER "Sun Electric"
    INDEX 00 21:12:10
    INDEX 01 21:13:53
  TRACK 06 AUDIO
    TITLE "Fanfare Of Life"
    PERFORMER "Leftfield"
    INDEX 00 25:40:23
    INDEX 01 25:42:03
  TRACK 07 AUDIO
    TITLE "The Hypnotist"
    PERFORMER "Sisterlove"
    INDEX 00 31:47:18
    INDEX 01 31:49:33
  TRACK 08 AUDIO
    TITLE "Second Hand"
    PERFORMER "Underworld"
    INDEX 00 40:48:70
    INDEX 01 40:50:63
  TRACK 09 AUDIO
    TITLE "Crazy Ivan"
    PERFORMER "Ver Vlads"
    INDEX 00 49:51:30
    INDEX 01 49:52:33
  TRACK 10 AUDIO
    TITLE "Estelle"
    PERFORMER "A Man Called Adam"
    INDEX 00 56:26:43
    INDEX 01 56:28:15
  TRACK 11 AUDIO
    TITLE "On The Rocks"
    PERFORMER "Obiman"
    INDEX 00 63:14:28
    INDEX 01 63:16:20
  TRACK 12 AUDIO
    TITLE "Sunset At The Cafe Del Mar"
    PERFORMER "Tabula Rasa"
    INDEX 00 69:39:63
    INDEX 01 69:41:65

Dragging the cue file into a foobar playlist the list of all tracks appears ....

But at this moment I would like simply to split the file and not to convert it in another format. It is necessary in any case to use the .APE encoder during conversion? Strange... 
I see that in the perferences/tools/converter are listed some default encoders. Where are they stored in the foobar dir/folders?


Thanks

APE+CUE

Reply #8 –
Quote from: katoblepa on
But at this moment I would like simply to split the file and not to convert it in another format. It is necessary in any case to use the .APE encoder during conversion? Strange... huh.gif
I see that in the perferences/tools/converter are listed some default encoders. Where are they stored in the foobar dir/folders?
Whatever format you want - even if it's APE - you will need to re-encode to split the file.  If you want APE files then, yes, you will need to use MAC.EXE in a Converter profile.  foobar will look for the default profile encoders in the foobar folder (or a folder in PATH); however if you set up a custom profile to convert to APE you can specify the path to the encoder.
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APE+CUE

Reply #9 –
Quote from: katoblepa on
PERFORMER "Various Artists"
TITLE "Café Del Mar Vol.1"


Great album by the way, the best of the Cafe del Mar discs.  I lost interest after #6 or so.

APE+CUE

Reply #10 –
I didn't find Café Del Mar CDs sold as downloadable product on their official site. I'd be interested in buying a lossless downloadable version of this album as well. Where can it be found?
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe

APE+CUE

Reply #11 –
Quote from: DotNoir on
I didn't find Café Del Mar CDs sold as downloadable product on their official site. I'd be interested in buying a lossless downloadable version of this album as well. Where can it be found?


Lossless?  I don't know.  Maybe lossy, but I've never looked.

I bought the first 8 Cafe Del Mar discs during trips to England and Scandinavia.  I found out later that some of the European discs have an extra track or two over the US versions.  (except for #8 which has 1 fewer, weird).

APE+CUE

Reply #12 –
Quote from: Synthetic Soul on
Quote from: katoblepa on
But at this moment I would like simply to split the file and not to convert it in another format. It is necessary in any case to use the .APE encoder during conversion? Strange... huh.gif
I see that in the perferences/tools/converter are listed some default encoders. Where are they stored in the foobar dir/folders?
Whatever format you want - even if it's APE - you will need to re-encode to split the file.  If you want APE files then, yes, you will need to use MAC.EXE in a Converter profile.  foobar will look for the default profile encoders in the foobar folder (or a folder in PATH); however if you set up a custom profile to convert to APE you can specify the path to the encoder.


Hi!
I started my job using foobar.
At this time I would like to split only (input=.ape output=.ape) with the cue file
I added (as suggested) into the converter parameter as custom converter MAC.exe. I have foobar v0.9.4.3
1) In the command line enconder settings map I defined:
extension of the new file = .ape

Parameers = -q 0.60 -ignorelength -if - -of %d
This is a presetting of MP4(nero). I do not understand the meaning. Anyone can explain?

Then I selected:
Format = Loosless

Highest BPS mode supported = 32 (??)

2) The I select "convert to the same directory", APE encoder and I have this error:

Error writing to file (Encoder has terminated prematurely with code -1; please re-check parameters)
: file://F:\My Music\MP3\COMPILATIONS\Cafè del Mar Vol. 1\Various Artists - Café Del Mar Vol.1 - Jose Padilla - Agua.ape


3) In the converter parameters I selected in the "output file name" the following format:
Various Artists - %album% - [%artist% - %title%]....the same that I have in the input file

What is the meaning of the other parameters:
Album Images:
Previews:

Some other suggestion for parameters?
I would like to convert a unique .ape file with cue to spiltted .ape files with the same filename format and the same quality.

Other question is about foobar playlist. Is seems that they are not updated after file tagging modification. I have to delete the items from the playlist and then load again with add directory or files....
Some add on missing (I have the basic version) ?

Thanks

APE+CUE

Reply #13 –


Use the "..." button to point foobar to the location of MAC.EXE on your machine (or leave as is and put it in the foobar directory).

Bear in mind the following table when considering the -cXXXX switch:

Code: [Select]
XXXX    Compression
===================
1000    Fast
2000    Normal
3000    High
4000    Extra High
5000    Insane

foobar should tell you what setting the source file was created with in the Properties dialogue.
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APE+CUE

Reply #16 –
Quote from: gism on
I have a problem with this. I can't seem to locate lame.exe anywhere in my PC. :huh:

LAME is a bit off-topic on an APE+CUE thread, but you can find the latest current full release (3.98.2 at time of writing) at Rarewares. You can then put lame.exe in your fb2k folder or locate it elsewhere. Fb2k's converter can then use it via the quality slider (recommended) or you can set it up as a commandline encoder.
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APE+CUE

Reply #17 –
what about using cue splitter? it splits the large ape file into the individual tracks in unchanged .ape format.  or did someone recommend this and i missed it? its never failed me yet, useful if you dont want to convert the .ape to other formats.

APE+CUE

Reply #18 –
Quote from: chrome_waves on
what about using cue splitter? it splits the large ape file into the individual tracks in unchanged .ape format.  or did someone recommend this and i missed it? its never failed me yet, useful if you dont want to convert the .ape to other formats.


Medieval cue splitter? Nobody recommends that because it is crapware.
If you're talking about CueTools (or any proper splitting tool), it does do decoding->splitting->encoding.

APE+CUE

Reply #19 –
kisli, yeah thats the program i meant, i didnt realize it wasnt a good program. ive used it many times to split ape + cue into individual tracks, what can i say - it always did the job properly 

APE+CUE

Reply #20 –
As an example, from what I recall, it would discard pregaps (at least by default) rather than append them to the previous track which is what most people actually want.  Could it be that it did this to you but you didn't notice?

APE+CUE

Reply #22 –
Quote from: Zarggg on
Quote from: kisli on
Medieval cue splitter? Nobody recommends that because it is crapware.
Actually, I use it, and it works just fine.

OK
I've ripped a cd to image w/ EAC.
Code: [Select]
Exact Audio Copy V0.99 prebeta 4 from 23. January 2008

EAC extraction logfile from 25. January 2010, 14:24

NoMeansNo / No One

Used drive  : Optiarc DVD RW AD-5200A   Adapter: 0  ID: 0

Read mode : Burst

Read offset correction                      : 48
Overread into Lead-In and Lead-Out          : No
Fill up missing offset samples with silence : Yes
Delete leading and trailing silent blocks   : No
Null samples used in CRC calculations       : No
Used interface                              : Native Win32 interface for Win NT & 2000

Used output format              : User Defined Encoder
Selected bitrate                : 768 kBit/s
Quality                         : High
Add ID3 tag                     : No
Command line compressor         : C:\Program Files\FLAC\flac.exe
Additional command line options : -8 -V -T "ARTIST=%a" -T "TITLE=%t" -T "ALBUM=%g" -T "DATE=%y" -T "TRACKNUMBER=%n" -T "GENRE=%m" -T "COMMENT=%e" %s -o %d


TOC of the extracted CD

     Track |   Start  |  Length  | Start sector | End sector 
    ---------------------------------------------------------
        1  |  0:00.00 |  6:00.73 |         0    |    27072   
        2  |  6:00.73 |  6:13.72 |     27073    |    55119   
        3  | 12:14.70 |  8:02.44 |     55120    |    91313   
        4  | 20:17.39 |  8:48.68 |     91314    |   130981   
        5  | 29:06.32 |  6:20.44 |    130982    |   159525   
        6  | 35:27.01 |  8:40.58 |    159526    |   198583   
        7  | 44:07.59 | 15:03.30 |    198584    |   266338   
        8  | 59:11.14 |  3:57.44 |    266339    |   284157   


Range status and errors

Selected range

     Filename D:\MyDocs\EAC\NoMeansNo - No One\NoMeansNo - No One.wav

     Timing problem 0:00:03
     Timing problem 0:01:21
     Timing problem 0:04:13
     Timing problem 0:05:39
     Timing problem 0:10:29
     Timing problem 0:17:44
     Timing problem 0:23:47
     Timing problem 0:24:46
     Timing problem 0:45:07
     Timing problem 0:50:34

     Peak level 99.7 %
     Copy CRC C85436E0
     Copy finished

No errors occurred

 
AccurateRip summary
 
Track  1  accurately ripped (confidence 7)  [BF7D9B4F]
Track  2  accurately ripped (confidence 7)  [44D37ABD]
Track  3  accurately ripped (confidence 7)  [BFB1DBF2]
Track  4  accurately ripped (confidence 7)  [014D4E73]
Track  5  accurately ripped (confidence 7)  [F156A23D]
Track  6  accurately ripped (confidence 7)  [9AA219E7]
Track  7  accurately ripped (confidence 6)  [FAE32D22]
Track  8  accurately ripped (confidence 6)  [6339246E]
 
All tracks accurately ripped

End of status report


I've split the image in 3 different ways, Medieval, Cuetools, FB2K's coverter

So far, all good.
Then I used FB2K's File Integrity Verifier to check AccurateRip of split files:

CueTools


FB2k


And Medieval:


Bit-comparing split tracks:


Not surprisingly, FB2K, Cuetools and image files match bit for bit

Not so with Medieval:


Also, do you notice anything strange in medieval's cuesheet?
Code: [Select]
;
;--[ Created by Medieval CUE Splitter! ]--
;
;-----------[ www.medieval.it ]-----------
;
REM GENRE Rock
REM DATE 2000
REM DISCID 710ECC08
REM COMMENT "ExactAudioCopy v0.99pb4"
TITLE "No One"
PERFORMER NoMeansNo
FILE "(01) [NoMeansNo] The Graveyard Shift.flac" WAVE
  TRACK 01 AUDIO
    TITLE "The Graveyard Shift"
    PERFORMER NoMeansNo
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "(02) [NoMeansNo] Under The Sea.flac" WAVE
  TRACK 02 AUDIO
    TITLE "Under The Sea"
    PERFORMER NoMeansNo
    INDEX 00 00:00:00
    INDEX 01 00:02:00
FILE "(03) [NoMeansNo] Our Town.flac" WAVE
  TRACK 03 AUDIO
    TITLE "Our Town"
    PERFORMER NoMeansNo
    INDEX 00 00:00:00
    INDEX 01 00:02:00
FILE "(04) [NoMeansNo] A Little Too High.flac" WAVE
  TRACK 04 AUDIO
    TITLE "A Little Too High"
    PERFORMER NoMeansNo
    INDEX 00 00:00:00
    INDEX 01 00:02:00
FILE "(05) [NoMeansNo] Hello - Goodbye.flac" WAVE
  TRACK 05 AUDIO
    TITLE "Hello / Goodbye"
    PERFORMER NoMeansNo
    INDEX 00 00:00:00
    INDEX 01 00:02:00
FILE "(06) [NoMeansNo] The Phone Call.flac" WAVE
  TRACK 06 AUDIO
    TITLE "The Phone Call"
    PERFORMER NoMeansNo
    INDEX 00 00:00:00
    INDEX 01 00:02:00
FILE "(07) [NoMeansNo] Bitch's Brew.flac" WAVE
  TRACK 07 AUDIO
    TITLE "Bitch's Brew"
    PERFORMER NoMeansNo
    INDEX 00 00:00:00
    INDEX 01 00:02:00
FILE "(08) [NoMeansNo] Beat On The Brat.flac" WAVE
  TRACK 08 AUDIO
    TITLE "Beat On The Brat"
    PERFORMER NoMeansNo
    INDEX 00 00:00:00
    INDEX 01 00:02:00

Another error introduced by Medieval:



And some good news.


Re: APE+CUE

Reply #23 –
I admit I did not know this post. A bit nervous I have been doing the same tests that did Kisli in 2010 but with the most updated version of:
A) "binary comparator 2.1.1" for foobar 1.3.16
B) "file integrity checker 1.1.2" for idem.

with .APE's partitioned with the same programs indicated by Kisli:
1) Medieval CUE Splitter (v.1.2) with encoder MAC.exe v.4.22
2) F2K v.1.3.6 with MAC Encoder v.4.22
3) Cue Tools 2.1.5 with the encoder CUETools.Codecs.APE.dll (version 2013, last?)

Except one file partitioned, the tests have been satisfactory comparing:
-f2k with cuetool
-f2k with cuesplit
-cuesplit with cuetool

I do not know if since 2010 (that tests were made) to 2013 (CUETools.Codecs.APE.dll) / 2017 (MAC.exe) ... there have been big changes. But I have observed that the conclusions of this post have been expanding by quite a few forums. Keep in mind ...

As a curious note I observed that while Cuetools and F2K generated files of identical size, with Medieval CUE Splitter were slightly larger, but the tests of both comparison and file integrity passed the tests in the same way.