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How to make a 5.1 AAC plus and ...

Hello everyone
I have some question

1. How to encoding 5.1 AACplus audio file?
  I have 6 wav files(front LR, Rear LR, center, LFE) and used Nero Burning Rom
  but It outputs a file, a wave file to a mp4 file not 6 audio files to a mp4(or aac)
  Is there any program to satisfy my desire

2. To compare AC3 with AAC plus what bitrates should I choose?
  and what kinds of audio profile should I choose? HE-AAC, LC or something else?
  I want to compare AAC plus audio file with AC3 audio file
  My friend said to me that AC3 is superior to AAC plus,
  He has a AC3 audio file(5.1ch, 320kbps, 16bits, 44.1khz )


3. What is the most effective audio format in quality and file size ?
  Is it best choice to select AAC plus?
  To satisfying your opinion What kinds of program, option, profile etc should I use?
 
What is your opinion? Please tell me the reasonable choice.

How to make a 5.1 AAC plus and ...

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1. How to encoding 5.1 AACplus audio file?
   I have 6 wav files(front LR, Rear LR, center, LFE) and used Nero Burning Rom
   but It outputs a file, a wave file to a mp4 file not 6 audio files to a mp4(or aac)
   Is there any program to satisfy my desire


Unfortunately, Nero is still the only publicly available HE AAC encoder, and it won't support inputting several wav streams to create a single AAC stream. You need to merge the wavs together into a 5.1 wav stream before feeding the file to nero AACenc.

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2. My friend said to me that AC3 is superior to AAC plus


Absurd.

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3. What is the most effective audio format in quality and file size ?
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Depends on the bitrate you're after. For low bitrates, AACplus is indeed the best. For mid-high bitrates (and for transparency), you should look at Vorbis, iTunes AAC and Musepack.

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Reply #2 –
I'm pleased to see your sincere answers
and It's a great help to me

after reading your answers another questions has just occurred ^^;;
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1. You need to merge the wavs together into a 5.1 ...

- I've seen a wav merged into multi channel but not seen such a software
  Can you recommend a program or more to me?
- Is there any multichannel encoder that uses AAC plus format and is not publicly available
 
2.Does converting a 5.1ch wav to a AAC plus mean that
  cross-correlation is effective among channels?

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- Is there any multichannel encoder that uses AAC plus format and is not publicly available

In most of the cases, it is hard to know what is not publically available....

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Reply #4 –
For merging the waves into one multi-channel .wav I recommend BeSweet (I never used it for that purpose but I think it can do it...)

http://www.dspguru.doom9.net/

Use latest beta & GUI !!!

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Reply #5 –
If you have 6 wav/aiff files then you can use QT Pro to generate 5.1 AAC. Although remember for QT:

1. No HE-AAC support. So if you do 64 kbps/channel you get 64*6 = 384 kbps LC-AAC 5.1 file
2. QT does not allow 5.1 AAC in mp4 container ( ya I know, it suck!)  . So your final file will be .mov

Apart from that, I have backed up few of my DVDs to H264/5.1AAC like this ( final movie is in .mov container). I do not have very high end speakers to test them on, but so far as sound is concern I think its pretty much the same as original AC3.

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Reply #6 –
Nice, didn't even think of trying to make a multichannel QT AAC file before this.

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You need BeLight find him on www.corecodec.org, BeLight can handle 6 wav files and convert it to one 6ch wav/ac3/aac/ogg. So if you wanna aac i only recommend you Coding Tehnologies becouse now best encoder in 6ch encoding instead nero 6/7 which is very terrible and very articfatible. For bitrates you can use everythig form 96-200kbs and 96 is very good quality with no artifacts and good for 1CD rips, so you don't need high bitrates for good quality like iTunes or Nero, FAAC

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So what bitrate should be used for converting AC3 -> AAC 5.1 ? When I use QT pro to convert with 64 kbps/channel (QT has only option to make 5.1 by specifying per channel bitrate, CBR or VBR). I know QT is not HE-AAC, so thats why I did not go very low bitrate. But this does not help me save much space. AC3 is already 448 kbps and I get aac 384 kbps. So not much saving there.

What would be a good bitrate ( per channel) for HE-AAC 5.1 and LC-AAC 5.1 ?

How to make a 5.1 AAC plus and ...

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I'd use 40-48kbps/chan for LC-AAC and 24-32kbps/chan for HE-AAC.

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With Coding Tehnologies can be used 16kbs per channel so 16*6=96kbs for bitrate and you get good quality without any artefacts. Should try is true. I think how CT produce extra quality at low rates, how than Nero's new encoder with 2pass mode, i think can we use 64 for 6 ch encoding 10.6kbs per channel.

For LC-AAC i think is good using 250-384kbs but i newer tested so maybe i am wrong.