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White noise from my PC

Hello everyone,

I've been struggling with Foobar for the last few weeks (I used it with no problems with my old setup but everything changed when I bought a connected amp - Marantz CR 612). I listen without any probleme to music from Qobuz via a smartphone on which Bubbleupnp is installed. I can also play music installed on a PC connected to the Marantz with the same smartphone + Bupnp.

My problem is that I can't play music directly from the PC on which I've installed Foobar. I installed UpnpMediaRenderer and I see in Device Upnp Marantz CR 612 but I only hear white noise! It's certainly a basic problem, but I'm going round in circles. Do you have any ideas?

Thank you in advance
Phil

PS : and thank for your patience I am not a english speaking person

Re: White noise from my PC

Reply #1
For starters you can go to 'Preferences' -> 'Playback' -> 'Output' -> 'Devices' and try to adjust the bitdepth used by UPnP.

If that doesn't help, you could paste here the reported features of the device by navigating to 'Preferences' -> 'Playback' -> 'Output' -> UPnP MediaRenderer Output' and right click on the device. Select 'Show device details', and you'll see a button to copy the report to clipboard at top right.

Re: White noise from my PC

Reply #2
Thanks for your response. Adjustment of bitdepth did not help. The report on device details is as follows :
Friendly name : Marantz M-CR612
IP address : 192.168.1.42
Manufacturer : Marantz
Manufacturer URL : http://www.marantz.com
Model : Marantz M-CR612
Model number : Aios 4.025

Supported formats:
http-get:*:audio/mpeg:*
http-get:*:audio/vnd.dlna.adts:*
http-get:*:audio/x-ms-wma:*
http-get:*:audio/x-ms-wma:*
http-get:*:audio/L16;rate=48000;channels=2:*
http-get:*:audio/L16;rate=48000;channels=1:*
http-get:*:audio/L16;rate=44100;channels=2:*
http-get:*:audio/L16;rate=44100;channels=1:*
http-get:*:audio/wav:*
http-get:*:audio/mp3:*
http-get:*:audio/flac:*
http-get:*:audio/aac:*
http-get:*:audio/m4a:*

Re: White noise from my PC

Reply #3
What kind of files were you trying to play? Looks like your device only accepts 44.1 or 48 kHz data, only at 16 bits, and only at mono or stereo. I unfortunately don't know if foobar2000 automatically handles potential channel downmixing or resampling with UPnP.

It won't hurt to configure the output to 16-bits. And in 'Preferences' -> 'Playback' -> 'DSP Manager' add 'Downmix channels to stereo' DSP and a Resampler DSP to the active DSP chain. For this test it doesn't matter which resampler you pick. They default to resampling to 44.1 kHz. You can leave the resampler to default config. Or if you want to be thorough, you can click the three arrows behind the added resampler DSP to open its configuration and add '48000' to the exclude list (without the quotes). That way both 44.1 kHz and 48 kHz tracks will remain as is, others get resampled to a supported frequency for certain.

And finally in the 'Preferences' -> 'Playback' -> 'Output' -> UPnP MediaRenderer Output' page try adding a simple configuration override for your device. Paste this to the bottom of the Configuration dialog leaving:
Code: [Select]
manufacturer=Marantz
model=Marantz M-CR612
supports-FLAC=true
This changes the output from WAV to FLAC. If that doesn't help, you can scroll the configuration window to see other workarounds needed by other devices and test them, things like "supports-infinite-length=false" for example. But at this point it seems a little manual testing is needed unfortunately.

Re: White noise from my PC

Reply #4
Thanks again for trying to help me. I just tried to play a 44.1 kHz 16-bit file in FLAC (stereo) but it doesn't work  :'(
So I didn't continue the rest of the manipulation. For information, the amp displays "stream from Foobar 2000" but I can hear nothing. When I launch the same file (on the PC) from Bupnp on my phone, it works  :o

Re: White noise from my PC

Reply #5
The device is not sent data as FLAC unless you do the config changes. But suit yourself.

Re: White noise from my PC

Reply #6
Sorry, I answered a bit quickly. I just tried to modify the parameters in the dialog box (Marantz model etc...). It works !
I can hear the music. The progress of the playback bar is sometimes random (stop and go) and the "vu metre" doesn't work but I have sound. Well done!

Re: White noise from my PC

Reply #7
For the seekbar issues you should see if your device has firmware updates available. And you can try the various UPnP configuration options I mentioned, perhaps some other settings work better with the device. If you find better working options it would be nice to share them here so all other users of that device benefit from your experience too.

Current foobar2000 versions disable all visualizations with UPnP. I can probably jarsonic a little and tell that the next foobar2000 after the v2.24.x series no longer does that.

Re: White noise from my PC

Reply #8
I've introduced the suggested settings. It works now. I don't know if it's optimal, but it works for me. I'll be sure to let you know if I find a new, more satisfactory configuration. Thanks again for the help

If I can still benefit from your skills ... Is there a way to control the media library on the PC from my telephone while keeping the Foobar interface (it works with Upnp but the interface is not very user-friendly)?

Have a nice day

Re: White noise from my PC

Reply #9
Getting off topic, but if your PC runs non-home Windows you can use Remote Desktop to access your PC from the phone and see foobar2000 100% as it runs natively. No third party software needed on the PC. For home version and other OSes you can achieve pretty much the same with VNC for free, and if you don't mind paying there are tools like TeamViewer and AnyDesk.

If you don't need identical UI you can take a look at foo_beefweb.

 

Re: White noise from my PC

Reply #10
TeamViewer is free for personal use.
It's your privilege to disagree, but that doesn't make you right and me wrong.

Re: White noise from my PC

Reply #11
Sorry, it's true that it's off topic. I know TeamViewer, which I also use. I thought it was possible to install a Foobar light on the phone to control the one on the computer. It's certainly preferable that I open a dedicated thread. Thanks again for your help ...