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Something about Mozilla

http://mozilla.org/projects/thunderbird/
The Mozilla Thunderbird Mail Project
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Mozilla Thunderbird is a redesign of the Mozilla mail component. Our goal is to produce a cross platform stand alone mail application using the XUL user interface language. Our intended customer is someone who uses Mozilla Firebird (or another stand alone browser) as their primary browser and wants a mail client based on mozilla that "plays nice" with the browser. In addition, by focusing solely on stand alone mail, we believe we can make some dents in the overall footprint and performance of the mail client by removing components and chrome we don't need. On top of that, the UI becomes much cleaner as a stand alone application as opposed to being part of the mozilla suite.


http://www.mozilla.org/products/firebird/
Mozilla Firebird 0.61 released
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Mozilla Firebird 0.6.1 is a minor bug-fix release fixing a few critical issues in Mozilla Firebird 0.6, as well as some other minor bug fixes and changes, including:

    * Fix for the auto-complete crash bug
    * Fix for the DOM security restriction bug that broke many bookmarklets
    * New application icon

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Yeah, yeah. I should warn everybody using recent Firebird/Mozilla (visible at least in version >1.4a) for Windows.
It has a serious resources leak bug,
which forces the user to close the browser (it becomes unusable and the system with it) given certain amount of browsing.
After closing the browser everything returns to normal state.

There is a workaround available, read the bug.
ruxvilti'a

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Yes, you're right. And that's not the only bug unfortunately.

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I made Mozilla Firebird use 468mb of ram today  If it hadn't crashed my system entirely I would of taken a screenshot..

I think that's me to blame, not the browser, I asked it to run a script to open, process and save 13000 text files while I ate lunch.. 
< w o g o n e . c o m / l o l >

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Workaround is to open about:config (type that in the url bar) and add the name: browser.cache.memory.capacity type integer value 4096 (you could also simply add this value to your prefs.js/all.js), and also make sure to clear the memory cache from time to time from preferences or PrefButtons extension.

This bug is ACTIVE and affects win9x (quickly) and win2k/xp (slowly), it has to do with GDI leakage making all programs and eventually the whole system crash (yes, even 2k/XP ) Funny that it never happened to me, but i do close Firebird from time to time and i always keep an eye to the resource usage (using taskmgr.exe).

Obviously it is an app bug, but also the OS is so dumb that it lets apps do this as well. Just remember that other apps could be causing the same...
She is waiting in the air

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Would limiting the browsers cache to 4096(b, kb?) affect me trying to load 10mb pages?..
< w o g o n e . c o m / l o l >

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No, it won't. This is only image cache.  It won't affect loading of large images too.
They just won't be buffered in the memory. Of course, this doesn't fully alleviate the bug.
I've managed to reproduce it by opening ~30 tabs with different pages.
But consuming resources can be done using any app, especially under Win9x/ME.
ruxvilti'a

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That didn't fix the problem for me...I read about that workaround on the mozilla forum, and tried it with no luck

Edit:  Yeah, I do a lot of tab opening...
WARNING:  Changing of advanced parameters might degrade sound quality.  Modify them only if you are expirienced in audio compression!

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There's patched Mozilla 1.4 available, look through the bug.
ruxvilti'a

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/me uses firebird 0.6.1 as standard browser and never had an OS crash, with the browser open for hours.  but I don't look at the taskmanager the whole time I admit.

maybe it's an OS problem? my XP SP1 is heavily patched with the kernel patched to  5.1.2600.1228 (look at ntoskrnl.exe).

I can tell from MY experience that firebird is the fastest and best browser around and the resource leak that some encounter will be fixed soon.

I love tabbed browsing.

thunderbird and firebird will be bundled to a new mozilla suite (1.6?) callled Mozilla Mail and Mozilla Browser. that's the new plan I think.

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Yeah, yeah. I should warn everybody using recent Firebird/Mozilla (visible at least in version >1.4a) for Windows.
It has a serious resources leak bugwhich forces the user to close the browser (it becomes unusable and the system with it) given certain amount of browsing.
After closing the browser everything returns to normal state.

There is a workaround available, read the bug.

Windows IE used to do that alot too. after opening a couple dozen pages, I would notice that i not longer had a toolbar up top. i could neither right click or save any of the info on the pages.
i could open more and more but all the options had vanished.
solution was to close all open browsers and re open it.
i think it happened with IE5, cant rem which version used to do that. or if current 6.0 does.

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Windows 2000/XP (NT too, I think) have much better resource management system,
which makes this bug harder to reproduce, but it still is possible.
But more likely you'll run out of memory first.
ruxvilti'a

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Firebird dies when I'm using it same way I'm using Opera (more than ten tabs, many forums...), speed is much better with less tabs open (this is not about amount of RAM, 512 MB should be enough).
 

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Yeah, yeah. I should warn everybody using recent Firebird/Mozilla (visible at least in version >1.4a) for Windows.
It has a serious resources leak bug,
which forces the user to close the browser (it becomes unusable and the system with it) given certain amount of browsing.
After closing the browser everything returns to normal state.

There is a workaround available, read the bug.

That's good.  I thought there was something more seriously wrong with my computer.
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Well I used to be a real Mozilla Firebird addict. I liked the idea of using Microsoft OS without using softwares made by Microsoft.
But, omg this Mozilla Firebird is still full of bugs (only a few were actually corrected by recent release 0.61), especially when filling forms. And it's impossible to open more than ten tabs without having to restart everything. A real pain. Even the bookmarks menu is a mess. Not even mentionning all the plugins... I have to admit the design is really nice though...

Now, like TrNSZ, I'm using AvantBrowser. It has most of Firebird's features and some more but not its bad points.

IMO, Firebird still needs to "grow up".

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The only problem with IE is its very low page loading speed,
problems with standard-compliant pages (esp. CSS), M$, tons of security bugs.

And there are finally bugfixes and feature additions to Firebird tree,
because it should phase out old Mozilla suite before next version.
Go read here and here.
ruxvilti'a