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Best MP3 ripper?

Reply #25 –
Quote from: jc836 on
Personally, I have few issues with the rippers I have bought or tested.  My favorite for ease of use is the Free CD Ripper from France.  The author has done a very good job with the program.  I grant it does not do everything, but the resulting MP3's I have ripped are much better than most everything else I have tried.


Could you be more specific on how it makes your mp3s better?  If you mean error free rips that's one thing.  But if you mean the quality of the resulting MP3s, that has to do with the encoding and not the ripping.

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Reply #26 –
I may be a bit dense about "error free ripping" as I don't do any analysis as such on the files.  I have a background in Broadcast/Studio audio and have only my ears to work with these days.  I agree that the encoders have a significant effect.  I have also found that quality is also dependent on the bitrate used.  What I perceive is that CD Ripper is cleaner than several others I have used and discarded.  I joined this thread thinking about ease of use and general quality.

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Reply #27 –
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What I perceive is that CD Ripper is cleaner than several others I have used and discarded

Just a friendly hint 

From the "Terms Of Service" paragraph 8 : http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=3974

-> 8.

Hydrogenaudio is supposed to be an objectively minded community that relies on double-blind testing and relevant methods of comparison in discussion about sound quality. The usual "audiophile" speak of non-audio related terms which are completely subjective and open to redefinition on a whim, are useless for any sort of progression in discussion.

This rule is the very core of Hydrogenaudio, so it is very important that you follow it.

Here is a discussion explaining why
http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....showtopic=11442

You can read how to easily perform double blind listening tests here :
http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....howtopic=16295


CU, Martin.

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Reply #28 –
Martin:  Thank you for the reminder.  JC

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Reply #29 –
Encoders can not be any better then the data they are fed. The old saying, garbage in garbage out, is what secure error free ripping is all about. Even the best encoder can only work with what you give it. If the ripper has clicks/pops/ect then so will the encoded song... Stick with EAC or dbpoweramp!

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Reply #30 –
I have used EAC for years. It has worked perfectly for me.
I do not see the point about new development. It is being developed as referenced, but who cares. I still use MS Office 2002 for the same reason I use EAC. Good discs, bad discs, it just works.
L.A.M.E. MP3 encoder falls in the same camp. The MP3s it makes sound great to me on all my audio equipment. It is free. All the people I have introduced to it have been thrilled with its quality.
I use 3.97 stable with  -V 2 --vbr-new.
I do store the files in FLAC lossless in case I want to transcode later without ripping again.

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Reply #31 –
Quote from: ddrawley on
I do not see the point about new development. It is being developed as referenced, but who cares. I still use MS Office 2002 for the same reason I use EAC. Good discs, bad discs, it just works.

It may work, but it could certainly work a whole lot better.  I could give you a laundry list but I'll instead just tell you that when it comes to properly using C2 pointers to ensure a secure rip, EAC is pretty much useless.  If your drive provides C2 pointers, try dBpowerAMP R12.  The difference is night and day.

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Reply #32 –
EAC or CDex are in my opinion probably the best.  But the best in this case is rather subjective it all depends upon your needs

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Reply #33 –
Quote from: ddrawley on
I do not see the point about new development.


Because for myself and many other users EAC is VERY unstable, crashes frequently and even causes frequent system wide crashes! I have used it up until 2 months ago as my sole ripper because it did what nothing else was doing, but now I have a stable alternative.

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Reply #34 –
I have never had any stability issues with EAC; however, I'm disappointed at the lack of progress that it is making. I'm just used to storing my CDs in cue/wav image format; if another program exists that is updated and can do this as well as EAC (i.e. with a good secure mode and storing all possible information in the cuesheet), I'd probably use that.

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Reply #35 –
Quote from: Eli on
Quote from: ddrawley on
I do not see the point about new development.


Because for myself and many other users EAC is VERY unstable, crashes frequently and even causes frequent system wide crashes! I have used it up until 2 months ago as my sole ripper because it did what nothing else was doing, but now I have a stable alternative.


In my experience this instability you mention usually arises as the result of the cd drive being unable to error-correct a track in EAC's secure mode. Unlike burst mode the secure one forces the drive to read the damaged track over and over, though it fails at delivering a satisfying result and therefore keeps reading forever. This behaviour caused a few crashes for me as well, but I'm uncertain whether these can be credited to EAC's stability, since both fast and burst modes tend not to crash at all. In my opinion it's rather the drive that's at fault here.

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Reply #36 –
Quote from: Junon on
Quote from: Eli on
Quote from: ddrawley on
I do not see the point about new development.


Because for myself and many other users EAC is VERY unstable, crashes frequently and even causes frequent system wide crashes! I have used it up until 2 months ago as my sole ripper because it did what nothing else was doing, but now I have a stable alternative.


In my experience this instability you mention usually arises as the result of the cd drive being unable to error-correct a track in EAC's secure mode. Unlike burst mode the secure one forces the drive to read the damaged track over and over, though it fails at delivering a satisfying result and therefore keeps reading forever. This behaviour caused a few crashes for me as well, but I'm uncertain whether these can be credited to EAC's stability, since both fast and burst modes tend not to crash at all. In my opinion it's rather the drive that's at fault here.


The same driveS (plextors and lite-ons) all perform very well on the same discs with dbpoweramp. Plus, whats the point if you cant use secure mode. If you want burst mode use just any ripper unless you use Test&Copy.

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Reply #37 –
Quote from: Eli on
The same driveS (plextors and lite-ons) all perform very well on the same discs with dbpoweramp. Plus, whats the point if you cant use secure mode. If you want burst mode use just any ripper unless you use Test&Copy.


Could it be an ASPI issue?
EAC secure | FLAC  --best -V -b 4096 | LAME 3.97 -V0 -q0 -b32

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Reply #38 –
I have had no issues with EAC stability with my Plextor, LiteOn, NEC, or Yamaha drives. I have used it on multiple motherboard and CPU combinations.
I realize opinion is heavily involved in Eli's comments and mine.
I personally find EAC to be an excellent application, which as a bonus, is free.
I do not expect any software to compensate for drive or system issues.

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Reply #39 –
Quote from: ddrawley on
I have had no issues with EAC stability with my Plextor, LiteOn, NEC, or Yamaha drives. I have used it on multiple motherboard and CPU combinations.
I realize opinion is heavily involved in Eli's comments and mine.
I personally find EAC to be an excellent application, which as a bonus, is free.
I do not expect any software to compensate for drive or system issues.



My system is otherwise VERY stable and can run for months without being restarted. If it was a drive issue it should arrise with any software doing error correction. Dont get me wrong, EAC is a great program and its free, but it has not been stable for me under multiple environments.

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Reply #40 –
And what do you think about Media Wizard ? Does someone use it ???

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Reply #42 –
I would suggest you if you wanna a high quality mp3 rip, use EAC to extract to wav, then use the mp3 encoder that blundes nero at High Quality encoding or the Fraunhofer L3 professional acm codec, in terms of quality and fidelity LAME is crap as in result of some tests that I did ripping same audio tracks many times with differents encoders. if you are in doubt, then its better that do a test yourself ripping a same audio track with different encoders and compare the quality of each rip with your hear to find which one fit your needs

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Reply #43 –
The FhG codec has been proven to be worse than LAME at most bitrates in double-blind tests (I don't know below 128)
Please read TOS #8 before making claims about different encoders or formats, else do not make any claims at all. Unless your tests were double-blind (an ABX tool or ABC/HR), your results are not welcome here.

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Reply #44 –
I like to use CDex with LAME.

I tried EAC but i got many errors...

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Reply #45 –
Quote from: apul on
I like to use CDex with LAME.

I tried EAC but i got many errors...

You're probably getting the same errors using CDex but they're not being reported.
daefeatures.co.uk

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Reply #47 –
Without knowing more about the nature of your errors / seeing logs for both apps, anything I say is merely conjecture. I don't believe I've seen a case of CDex outperforming EAC here yet. Any claims such as yours could be the result of CDex not catching errors due to a caching drive.

http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?ti...x_SecureMode_II
daefeatures.co.uk

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Reply #48 –
Quote from: dissociative on
...in terms of quality and fidelity LAME is crap as in result of some tests that I did ripping same audio tracks many times with differents encoders.


So your findings are totally different to those of Lame users on this forum.

Doesn't that suggest there is a problem with your equipment or the way it's set up?
 

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Reply #49 –
Quote from: dissociative on
in terms of quality and fidelity LAME is crap as in result of some tests that I did ripping same audio tracks many times with differents encoders.

yeah, right.