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AAC not playing in Winamp3

Can anyone offer assistance?

I have uninstalled and deleted the files for Winamp3, then reinstalled Winamp3 as well as the plugin. Winamp 3 still does not play my AAC files. It does show “44100 HZ 16 BPS 2CH” but then it skips to the next track without playing the music. If I attempt to install the plug in without exiting Winamp3 it tells the plugin’s files (that I’m trying to overwrite) are in use, so I know its installed.

Once the plugin's installed do i need to change a preference (Like you did with winamp2?)

Using Winamp3 Final, and the plugin for Winamp3 from RareWares.

thanks
ibjr

AAC not playing in Winamp3

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it was the ID3 padding, but does the winamp3 plugin support id3 tags? My songs are not playing but the ID3 info is not showing up.

AAC not playing in Winamp3

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Originally posted by ibjr
it was the ID3 padding, but does the winamp3 plugin support id3 tags? My songs are not playing but the ID3 info is not showing up.


Ouch! ID3 is evil!

Well, you have three choices:

1) Wait until menno adds ID3 support on Winamp3 plugin (If he ever feels like it)

2) Run ID3kill through your AACs

3) Wait until the mp4 reading routines can handle QT tags (hint  ) and convert your AACs+ID3 to MP4+QT tag.

Regards;

Roberto.

AAC not playing in Winamp3

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Could you explain QT tags?  I'm thinking of converting my AAC collection to MP4 now that players and CoolEd are supported... especially as ID3 for AAC really messes it up  It would be nice having an mp4 -> aac converter though just incase!
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AAC not playing in Winamp3

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Originally posted by Mac
Could you explain QT tags?


These are the same tags available in QuickTime for file info.

Some more info here:
http://developer.apple.com/techpubs/quickt...FF/qtff-50.html

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It would be nice having an mp4 -> aac converter though just incase!


You can extract the AAC stream from a MP4 file using one of the MPEG4ip tools (I don't remember which)

But the extracted stream is RAW. I will see if there's some header rebuilder available somewhere.

AAC not playing in Winamp3

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Originally posted by rjamorim

2) Run ID3kill through your AACs

3) Wait until the mp4 reading routines can handle QT tags (hint  ) and convert your AACs+ID3 to MP4+QT tag.


Roberto:
Sorry, a mistake, I was tired.

I meant to say the songs (w/o padding) do play, unfortunately The Id3 tags only show up in winamp2.X but not winamp3 Final. Thanks for the ID3kill idea, it will help on my AACs that do not play at all because of it those tags.

I thought QT was a container format, how can I set QT tags on a x86 machine I’ve played around with QTPro, but wouldn’t that be a very slow way of ripping? And EAC can’t use it… (Please correct me if I’m completely wrong)

Or would i use Psytel AAC encoder (MPEG4 profiles)?

Thanks
IBjr

AAC not playing in Winamp3

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Originally posted by ibjr
I thought QT was a container format, how can I set QT tags on a x86 machine I’ve played around with QTPro, but wouldn’t that be a very slow way of ripping? And EAC can’t use it… (Please correct me if I’m completely wrong) 


OK, here is the explanation:

MP4 uses the QuickTime (.mov) file format as a container for MPEG4 codecs (Generic video, teleconference video, AAC, Celp, SA, H.26L, VRML...)

Resuming: MOV == MP4 (concerning container formats)

So, the same tags available in MOV files are available in MP4 files. And Menno is working with the MPEG4ip developers to add QT tags support (writing and reading) to the MPEG4ip project (that are the libraries FAAD uses to read and demux MP4 files). Soon, there will probably be MPEG4ip binaries capable of writing and reading QT tags. And soon after, FAAD will be able too.

Regards;

Roberto.

AAC not playing in Winamp3

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Wow, Thanks Roberto.

I went over to the other AAC form, to my surprise it wasn't to difficult to understand. I think I will just switch to .mp4..

Last question, because there QT tags aren’t supported yet i need to rip to AACs+ ID3, which version of ID3 Tags should I use if I want to eventually convert AACs+ID3 to MP4+QT Tag. Will QT convert ID3-QT, or will mp4creator, and once Mpg4IP can write QT tags will it work with CDex or EAC? 

Thanks
IBjr

AAC not playing in Winamp3

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Originally posted by ibjr
Last question, because there QT tags aren’t supported yet i need to rip to AACs+ ID3, which version of ID3 Tags should I use if I want to eventually convert AACs+ID3 to MP4+QT Tag.


I doubt MPEG4ip tools will be able to read ID3v2 tags. The Cisco guys are very concerned with standards compliancy, and ID3v2 is one of the most horrendous hacks ever done.

I already talked with Case, and he's willing to add QT tag support to tag.exe, as soon as some sources (preferably libraries) are available from MPEG4ip.

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Will QT convert ID3-QT


Maybe, but not now. Current version of QuickTime can't even write tags in MPEG4 files.

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or will mp4creator


As I explained before, highly unlikely.

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and once Mpg4IP can write QT tags will it work with CDex or EAC?  


I think the easiest way would be asking the developers of these programs to add QT tag writing capabilities to the programs.

(Ops. Just remembered. I'm a CDex developer )

Regards;

Roberto.

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>Oups. Just remembered. I'm a CDex developer )
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lol
 

AAC not playing in Winamp3

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I'd like to take this opportunity to clear a few misunderstandings.

First of all, MP4 is not exactly the same as MOV, though very similair.

Second, the MPEG-4 standard doesn't define any tagging format. There is room for user data. We will probably have to think of our own way to define these tags, which fields to use, etc. Using the same format as in QT can be done, but why, if we can think of our own fields, we might as well think of something better. MPEG4IP will probably support the way we are going to do it. With some pressure and publishing some unofficial standard others, like Apple, might use it too.

Menno