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Having troubles making CUE sheets

I am trying to make my first CUE sheet. I don't quite understand what REM is? I read on it online but I don't get it - it allows more 'detailed' tags? Why do we even need REM?

Secondly my tags don't seem to work. I have attached CUE sheet and what foobar returns. They don't match. No idea what I am doing wrong because I compared them with other working CUE files I have and I can't see what's off.

Re: Having troubles making CUE sheets

Reply #1 –
The page linked below was derived from the CDRWIN User's Guide - Appendix A - Cuesheet Commands (The original standard for CD cuesheets)
https://web.archive.org/web/20160123204637/http://www.digitalx.org/cue-sheet/syntax/
Not all programs use all of the available commands  ("POSTGAP" for example).

REM is used to add a "REMark" aka "comment" to the cuesheet. Comments are usually ignored by the program reading the cuesheet.
There are a few commonly used additional tags that can be added by placing them behind the REM command such as DATE, GENRE, DISCID, and COMMENT. However text added after the REM command that is not recognized as an additional tag by the program reading the cuesheet will be ignored.
korth

Re: Having troubles making CUE sheets

Reply #2 –
I had hoped someone would add to this thread. I really don't keep up with foobar2000's latest versions and changes.

Some additional reading
https://hydrogenaud.io/index.php?topic=50899
https://hydrogenaud.io/index.php?msg=988379
https://wiki.hydrogenaud.io/index.php?title=Foobar2000:Encouraged_Tag_Standards#ALBUM_ARTIST

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Secondly my tags don't seem to work. I have attached CUE sheet and what foobar returns. They don't match
Using all of the above as reference, I really can't see a problem with the tags displayed in the foobar2000 Properties Window.
Note: AFAIK foobar2000 gives priority to file metadata over the cuesheet's "CD-text".

Note2: I really don't understand the ".flac" in the track Titles. Your cuesheet is written for ONE flac file. If you have FOUR flac files, you need one FILE command for each file (FOUR FILE commands).
https://web.archive.org/web/20160220022257/http://digitalx.org/cue-sheet/examples/index.php#example02 (see EXAMPLE 02)

Some more generic information
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FILE
Description:

This command is used to specify a data/audio file that will be written to the recorder.
Syntax:

FILE [filename] [filetype]
Parameters:

filename – Filename (can include device/directory).

If the filename contains any spaces, then it must be enclosed in quotation marks.

filetype – Filetype

The following filetypes are allowed…

BINARY – Intel binary file (least significant byte first)
MOTOROLA – Motorola binary file (most significant byte first)
AIFF – Audio AIFF file
WAVE – Audio WAVE file
MP3 – Audio MP3 file
You're using FLAC for filetype. This may not be recognized by all programs. The compliant filetype would be WAVE if FLAC isn't understood by the program (e.g. FILE "filename.flac" WAVE)
korth

Re: Having troubles making CUE sheets

Reply #3 –
You moved the thread under foobar2000 even though I think this is more of a generic audio matter. Random cue sheet creation has nothing to do with foobar2000, he just happens to test his creation with this software. If he was using foobar2000 to create a cue sheet and that didn't work, then it would be foobar2000 matter.

Please do not create a cue sheet if you are not trying to burn the audio to a CD. It makes no sense. If you have separate FLAC files now making a cue sheet for them only gives you problems without any benefits.

If you wish to test single file image, use foobar2000's converter to create the image+cue. But only do this as a test. Using cue for anything is a messy solution and its support is very limited.

Re: Having troubles making CUE sheets

Reply #4 –
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You moved the thread under foobar2000 even though I think this is more of a generic audio matter. Random cue sheet creation has nothing to do with foobar2000, he just happens to test his creation with this software. If he was using foobar2000 to create a cue sheet and that didn't work, then it would be foobar2000 matter.

I think I was a bit hasty to move the thread because:
  • every previous post made by the OP was about foobar2000
  • I also did make the assumption that the OP was using the CUE as a playlist for a flac Image and not for burning a CD

I can move the thread to the CD Hardware/Software section once the OP confirms your thoughts. > Moved
korth

Re: Having troubles making CUE sheets

Reply #5 –
I should clarify first of all that I have made a single FLAC file from a Blu-Ray disc using eac3to. Therefore I am using CUE sheet to split the FLAC file into multiple FLAC files per movement. AFAIK that's the simplest method of splitting them.

Yes, the '.flac' at the end of each title was a mistake which I removed.

Why wouldn't FLAC be recognized by foobar?

Yes this problem isn't foobar-specific.



Re: Having troubles making CUE sheets

Reply #6 –
Quote from: korth on
I had hoped someone would add to this thread. I really don't keep up with foobar2000's latest versions and changes.

Some additional reading
https://hydrogenaud.io/index.php?topic=50899
https://hydrogenaud.io/index.php?msg=988379
https://wiki.hydrogenaud.io/index.php?title=Foobar2000:Encouraged_Tag_Standards#ALBUM_ARTIST

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Secondly my tags don't seem to work. I have attached CUE sheet and what foobar returns. They don't match
Using all of the above as reference, I really can't see a problem with the tags displayed in the foobar2000 Properties Window.
Note: AFAIK foobar2000 gives priority to file metadata over the cuesheet's "CD-text".

Note2: I really don't understand the ".flac" in the track Titles. Your cuesheet is written for ONE flac file. If you have FOUR flac files, you need one FILE command for each file (FOUR FILE commands).
https://web.archive.org/web/20160220022257/http://digitalx.org/cue-sheet/examples/index.php#example02 (see EXAMPLE 02)

Some more generic information
Quote
FILE
Description:

This command is used to specify a data/audio file that will be written to the recorder.
Syntax:

FILE [filename] [filetype]
Parameters:

filename – Filename (can include device/directory).

If the filename contains any spaces, then it must be enclosed in quotation marks.

filetype – Filetype

The following filetypes are allowed…

BINARY – Intel binary file (least significant byte first)
MOTOROLA – Motorola binary file (most significant byte first)
AIFF – Audio AIFF file
WAVE – Audio WAVE file
MP3 – Audio MP3 file
You're using FLAC for filetype. This may not be recognized by all programs. The compliant filetype would be WAVE if FLAC isn't understood by the program (e.g. FILE "filename.flac" WAVE)

1) The file has no metadata. I converted it from BD video to FLAC.
2) I don't understand how foobar can't support REM COMPOSER when I can manually add it through the software and it's reflected in the CUE sheet when I open Notepad. It's strange that foobar applied metadata works but the exact same text when written directly isn't reflected in foobar (the picture that I showed in the original post.)
3) I don't know what #album-artist has to do with the composer field or the other fields I tried to add like genre classical.

Re: Having troubles making CUE sheets

Reply #7 –
1) Where are the HDCD and VALID BITS tags from in the picture?
3) You didn't state what you thought "didn't match" in the picture. The cuesheet PERFORMER command above the 1st TRACK command can correspond to "album artist" in some situations (but not yours).
korth

Re: Having troubles making CUE sheets

Reply #8 –
As I said the first time, the composer wasn't reflected when added manually through notepad. However when added through foobar the same text showed up on the cuesheet. Strange.

I do not know what HDCD or valid bits are. They must be from eac3to.

Re: Having troubles making CUE sheets

Reply #9 –
If you edit the cue sheet externally, you need to reload the track info in foobar2000 before it will have any effect there. It's supposed to detect that the file has changed and reload it automatically, but sometimes that doesn't work.

Re: Having troubles making CUE sheets

Reply #10 –
Quote from: kode54 on
If you edit the cue sheet externally, you need to reload the track info in foobar2000 before it will have any effect there. It's supposed to detect that the file has changed and reload it automatically, but sometimes that doesn't work.

Oh I didn't even know that. I just manually added the new cue sheet and removed the old one.
 

Re: Having troubles making CUE sheets

Reply #11 –
I create cue sheets all the time and edit them (in notepad++) whilst they're also loaded in foobar. Once saved, the changes take effect when the track is reloaded (double-click it or any other track from the cue sheet); that is, you don't have to reload the entire cue sheet back into foobar.

Quote from: Case on
Please do not create a cue sheet if you are not trying to burn the audio to a CD. It makes no sense. If you have separate FLAC files now making a cue sheet for them only gives you problems without any benefits.
I have created a few cue sheets from multiple flac files (although usually from just two files). My specific scenario are DJ mixes from cassette tape rips that have side a.flac and side b.flac files, that I've then worked out the tracks used in the mix and their timings, and then created the cue sheet appropriate.