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my experience with lossless formats

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my experience with lossless formats

Reply #1
Might as well join bluenike. xx

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Reply #2
same feeling here

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Reply #3
umm - now that the CDs are gone - what are you using to backup those *cough* illegal *cough* CDs? and please don't tell me the raid is the backup!

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umm - now that the CDs are gone - what are you using to backup those *cough* illegal *cough* CDs? and please don't tell me the raid is the backup!

That's what I was wondering.  Best case scenario, a drive fails, you have to buy another drive or get it swapped out and rebuild the array (this is ass-u-me-ing a RAID 5 or 0+1).  While you get the money for the drive or wait for the replacement, you have no access to your stuff.  Where I work I have seen more RAID 5 arrays have drive failures and not recover than have recovered successfully.  Worst case scenario, your drive fails and so does your array and bie bie data, gota go buy back your CDs, joy.  Only other options are to burn your stuff onto CDR for backup or use a tape drive.  Tape drives that are high enough capacity/speed are going to start around $250 used on eBay, say a DDS3 drive, 20GB native (I think.)  Then you still need the media, I am lucky on that front seeing as I got about 40 DDS3 tapes that were to be disposed of from my work.  If you are not that lucky, look at $20 to $40 per tape.  I don't trust CDR's for longevity due to the foil delaminating or scratches and you defeat your primary purpose anyway.  Also tapes do fail as well and restores will fail as well (we are all terrified of having to actually rely on our backup strategy in my department; no one has ever been able to actually restore anything successfully).  At some point in time you have to start weighing the pluses and minuses of your cost of disaster recover, or lack thereof.  Not to mention the legality of the issue as well (he could live in Canada I think what he is doing is all legal up there, don’t know).

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Reply #5
Yup ... selling the CD's (which is commercial) and keeping losslessly-compressed copies is piracy.
The name was Plex The Ripper, not Jack The Ripper

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Reply #6
Ya know, if you read this as the voice of Stewart from 'The Family Guy' it's much more fun....












I am banned.....

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Reply #7
Despite rmoody's prophetically dismal post, (or maybe in spite of) I still believe that bluenike is going the right route.  Frankly, the lossless and organized compression affords you the best way to organize your music collection, and the ability for it to transcode your collection and import it into your RIO is very handy.  I've never felt that 128kbps WMA9 is poort, but that's a matter of opinion and perhaps they'll increase the maximum bitrate there, or allow for VBR encodings.  I doubt you'll ever see FLAC support in WMP.

Personally (as I've said in another post), I'm perfectly happy with WMP, it's the only codec which suits all of my purposes, is easy to organize and browse, offers good compression and will work with my needs at the radio station where I volunteer.  It also does this without altering the software package on the Dell Wavecart machine, which is an enormous plus to my boss.

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AKAIK the only program that can convert on the fly to a Rio Karma is Sveta Portable Audio, it can take any of the lossless formats and transcode to ogg, or WMA lossless to Flac lossless whilst uploading. Have a look dbpoweramp.com >> Forum >> Beta  for the Karma driver and a latest Sveta with 'smart conversions'.

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Reply #10
Only thing that stinks is.. What if your CDs were stolen? I had over 200 CDs stolen and I've been wanting to rebuild the collection I had. It happened before I had a chance to rip them.

Is that still considered piracy if I downloaded the CDs that were stolen from me?

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Reply #11
you'll need an official police report that they have been stolen and proof of purchase of all your cd's. otherwise, if you can't prove the cd originally belonged to you and that it was stolen, you're possessing something illegal (in the eyes of the law).

edit: come to think of it, you'll get a reimbursement from your insurance company in case of theft and you're supposed to buy those cd's again at the record store.

so technically speaking: downloading something because you once owned it is illegal.
No inspiration

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Reply #12
That's kinda messed up.. Who here actually keeps the receipts?

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Reply #13
The attitude to selling your CDs in this thread ridiculous. Do what you like with your CDs, it's no one else's business. I think you did the right thing (apart from using WMA  ).

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Is that still considered piracy if I downloaded the CDs that were stolen from me?


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Despite rmoody's prophetically dismal post

What, exactly was I dismissing?  I think that archiving your collection like this is great.  The only thing is what happens when your collection becomes corrupted without the ability to recover and your CD's are gone?  Personally, I have my entire collection encoded in MP3, if I had the drive space I would certainly be using FLAC or APE.

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Reply #15
Way back when backups were part of my work,  the weekly procedure was:
1) back disk up to tape
2) read tape back to 2nd disk
3) swap the disks.

Then you have a verified tape and an off-line disk backup.  Tapes were stored off site.
There were also daily incrementals.

I recently got a DVD+-R and the backup program is a pain.  It backed up the C drive onto 10 DVD's, then read them all to verify.  There was an error reading disk 5 and the only choices (typical Windows..)were: 1) retry (reading disk 5), or 2) quit.  No choice for reburning disk 5, you have to start from scratch and burn all 10 disks.

Any suggestions for a better backup proggy supporting DVD?
(looking for linux as well).

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I doubt you'll ever see FLAC support in WMP.

would it if there were a FLAC directshow filter?  because I think there is one now.  if that's the case it might save the conversion step for bluenike.

Josh

 

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Despite rmoody's prophetically dismal post

What, exactly was I dismissing?

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He was just saying that your horror stories weren't the nicest things to hear..