Billy, you don’t have to defend Apple at every opportunity. iTunes does come with a lot of crap enabled as default, which although able to be disabled in some cases, can just be annoying. Must we have to disable it all? And it doesn't allow simple drag'n'drop to the iPod (instead storing all media files on the device as seemingly randomly-chosen and cryptically named hidden folders*), doesn't support playing files unless they're added to the library (as just said), still stores personal information in purchased files (and DRM-encrypts videos), and features other restrictions, of which other users could probably provide much better examples. And of said “crap”, a lot is this irritating stuff that chooses music or creates playlists for you automatically--because Apple assume people are too daft to think for themselves, perhaps?--and/or allows you to share your listening habits or follow those of others. But colourful adverts with white-headphoned folk dancing around sell better than functionality and thinking for yourself. (I think it'll be Linux for me next time, in case anyone's not sure. )* It does offer sane automatic “Media type/Artist/Album/nn. Title.ext” organisation of files on your computer , but drag'n'drop to device would be nice. I'm not trying to be a wise-ass or argumentative, but what DAP supports dragging and dropping? Are you loading a good DAP with Foobar? I don't know about Rockbox, but it doesn't seem worth throwing away compatibility with docks, car stereo, etc. You are talking about the Genius-Mix feature. I'd agree: that's unnecessary for me personally. It just doesn't pain me that it's there for others who may like it. I'm an "album-listener." I don't ever spend time creating playlists or care about mixes. Perhaps if I was a DJ it could be useful. IDK. But the "irritating" Genius-Mix is turned off on mine. I never even see it. My folder structure is very much the same as that of Windows. In fact, I've dragged & dropped folders from there into F2K to listen to them (it has the ALAC codec installed.) @kiit: I truly appreciate your opinion. but I'm pretty certain Zune started the social-service. They are now (feebly IMO) trying to integrate it more with X-Box Live. Doesn't matter to me either. I'm not using it. (Actually I do use the iTunes store for those free 30-sec samples. I hardly ever by an album I find sucks anymore.) As you've pointed out, Libraries are the thing of most media-players. It seems to me that it's just an interface (like an OS) that connects the user to music files and such. I don't think it's evil Apple (or MS) marketing, just an idea that sits well with everyone but you and a few others presumably. ...If all of the apps on my computers were exactly how I wanted them, I'd have written them all. Since I can't write squat and wouldn't have the time to anyway, I'm going to take what works for me and do my best to ignore minor annoyances. I like to think that my non-conformity is best expressed by my musical preferences. Not by opposing a large corporations attempts to make capital, sell products, and pay employees. I could care less about "glowing fruit" and "colorful adverts" trying to accomplish what companies must to avoid bankruptcy. It all just reeks of fan-boyism; such mantras. Like the slogans shouted by political parties on the extreme-left and extreme-right, it doesn't speak to the rest of us in the middle.