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Winamp 5.5 released

Reply #75 –
Quote from: DJ-Egg on
MAD and ASIO plugins could also be to blame, but should be ok.... (famous last words?)
There's no real reason to use MAD any more. Nothing is better than the default in_mp3.dll ;-)

Enhancer should be ok with 16bit files
(though will bork if you've got 'Allow 24bit' enabled in Winamp > Prefs > Playback)




#1 - why do you say that there's no reason to use MAD plugin anymore?
isn't it still way better (even by ABX) than the in_mp3.dll plugin from winamp?
need illuminations

#2 - i have a 24bit soundcard so I enabled the 24bit playback
{I'm sure i'll prove myself a bit confused about this: i'm using MAD, so this setting still effects me or it works only via in_mp3?}

is this setting:
1-stable
2-useful
3-improving in any ABX way the playback


greetz : )

Guì

Winamp 5.5 released

Reply #76 –
Quote from: Kjn_Wds on
#1 - why do you say that there's no reason to use MAD plugin anymore?
isn't it still way better (even by ABX) than the in_mp3.dll plugin from winamp?
need illuminations


No. The the MAD plugin isn't needed for sound quality reasons any more (I don't know of any other compelling reasons left to use it either). And you most certainly cannot ABX the difference between those decoders. They should both be flawless. It is rather that the MAD plugin doesn't support the latest Winamp features like transcoding support etc.

Winamp 5.5 released

Reply #77 –
MAD plugin supports APE tags and can display some useful info about the stereo mode used.

Winamp 5.5 released

Reply #78 –
Quote from: benski on
Quote from: Trancer on

Quote from: le_canz on

I've installed version 5.5 some days ago... no bugs at all on my system (win XP64 SP2), everything works as well as before.


I tried it on XP x64 as well, but not so good... What plugin's are you running? I'm running MAD Decoder 0.15.01, the ASIO Output Plugin 0.71, CuePlayer 0.56, Enhancer 0.17, Thomsom mp3PRO Decoder 1.3, ml_icecastlist 1.0. Ya think any of these cause the problems... They work fine with 5.35 (Pro)...


Yes, it's quite likely that these are causing your problems.  I'd start by eliminating in_mp3pro - this plugin has major issues  CuePlayer and Enhancer are also likely.  If you figure out which one is causing the crash, let me so I can find what is causing the incompatibility.

Quote from: MedO on
The big dessktop icon rearranger hit me as well, but I hardly noticed since my desktop is a mess anyway. However, I can see why many people would be upset about this.


The desktop rearrangement was a bug - not intended behaviour.  It will be fixed in the next version, sorry about the trouble


I have given things a spin again. I have to start with that in order to revert to 5.35 I had to scrap the whole installation (i.e. manually deleting all the install-directories) in order to get 5.35 working properly again... Encouraged by the above responses I retried WA 5.5 and afterwards I have installed one by one the plugins I mentioned above... There must have been some/or maybe even a lot of crap [from previous installs and plugins I ditched in the meanwhile] in the install directories, coz now all works fine!!!

There was a comment saying that ASIO is not necessary/usefull! I have a NVIDIA Chipset and use the NVIDIA ASIO Driver, I hardly dare to say it, but it seems better to me than the standard setup, could anyone comment?

In the Bento Skin, is it correct that it's not possible to detach the windows and move them around or is there a trick?

EDIT: Not all fine, froze after 45 minutes... Disabeling ASIO.

Winamp 5.5 released

Reply #79 –
Quote from: EastMushu on
Anyone having problem not able to use the cd-burning function on the Pro version in this release?

In this release, the ADD, etc. button is not available. Initially I thought it was my Winamp setup that got botched during installation.

Falling back to 5.35, the burn feature is available again. Is this a known bug?

Yes, it is a known issue on some systems (but not all) and is currently being looked into.
You can find more information here.
Hopefully we'll have it fixed for 5.51

Quote from: Jerethi on
Is anyone able to get truly gapless playback of Nero-encoded AAC files in Winamp?

Is Nero AAC a gapless format by design?
As far as I know, the M4A/AAC files created by Winamp's CT AAC/aacPlus Encoder are natively gapless, so maybe you should consider using that instead ;-)
But yeah, you can use the silence/gap killer workaround in out_ds config....

Quote from: tom_vienna_at on
...to my suprise, winamp can't make use of the embedded cuesheets in a flac-file (the file shows up as one album instead of the tracks of one album). There's a plugin on the winamp-site (think it's called cueplayer or something) which doesn't do anything and google won't come up with an answer.

Question: How do you play your flacs with embedded cuesheet with winamp 5.5, so that all track-info is displayed?

I already posted this info in my previous but one post in this thread, but here it is again:

CuePlayer plugin 0.57c
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=256908
http://etono.cplusplus.se/cueplay/downloads.xml (site currently down)

Cue Player 0.57c mirror
http://stashbox.org/43389/CuePlayer057c.zip

Then go to CuePlayer config (Winamp > Prefs > Plugins > Input > in_cue > config)
and checkmark "Unpack embedded cue sheets" in the FLAC tab

Quote from: hybridfan on
Well yes is very impressive so far but when converting files is there a way to rename the files according to album artist tag, this would be very handy for me as I have a lot of mix collections.  I have tried to put <album artist> and even <band> but no such luck

Looks like you tried everything but the correct one.

<Albumartist> is what you're looking for.

Quote from: Kjn_Wds on
Quote from: rajas on

The installer (full) rearranged my desktop icons. Did this happen to anybody else?


same here

it seems to work fine, so far

btw: i use MAD plugin, the question is: what does the
    New: [in_mp3] Multi-channel mp3surround support
still work?

+

I have a 5.1 attached to an Audigy 2

will I experience any difference with the new winamp or nothing really changed..?

Yeah, sorry about the desktop icons thing. It was a last minute implementation which was supposed to just refresh the Winamp associated icons only, but looks like everyone who tested it (including me) all had their desktop icons hidden. It'll be fixed for 5.51, along with a few other minor issues (so far):
http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?threadid=156839

Re: MAD plugin

The only real benefit/reason for still using the MAD plugin is for APEv2 tag support.
As I said in my previous post, we might even be able to implement this into in_mp3 now (but it will be read-only).

The new "Multi-channel mp3surround support" is a feature of the Nullsoft in_mp3 only.
ie. you can download MP3 files that were encoded in multi-channel 5.1 surround, eg. from here
and Winamp/in_mp3 will play them in true 5.1 surround
whereas with some 3rd-party plugin like MAD or in_!mpg123 it'll just play in stereo (and if you've got CMSS or equivalent enabled in your soundcard cp, then it'll just split the stereo channels across the 5.1/7.1 speaker system).

Winamp 5.35 had true support for 5.1ch encoded AAC, WMA, OGG & WAV, but not MP3.

I'm pretty certain that there is no longer any benefit in sound quality whatsoever when using the MAD plugin.
The MAD plugin doesn't use any of Winamp's global settings in: Prefs > Playback, but in_mp3 does
(24-bit, surroundsound, replaygain, etc etc)

Quote from: Trancer on
In the Bento Skin, is it correct that it's not possible to detach the windows and move them around or is there a trick?

Correct. Bento is a SingleUI skin, ie. all windows available in one single user interface.

Winamp 5.5 released

Reply #80 –
If you don't select media library in the installation, you should be able to have the playlist there instead of an empty library.
Something like on the old Winamp.

I really like this new skin but I hate that I can't have the playlist under the main controls.

Winamp 5.5 released

Reply #81 –
something really strange happened with winamp.
It was working fine but now it keeps locking or crashing
each time try to play anything. I have to shut it down
with ctrl alt del. It will play maybe 200 ms then locks or crashes.
Even when it plays more,the seek bar is unavailable and
after a short time, the music starts to loop on a small segment.
It does play online radios fine though !!!
To play my files, I have to use my old classic winamp .
This is really strange because it was working fine,this
problem appeared suddenly. (I have not installed anything new
on my comp,or changed the winamp settings)

I have tried re installing winamp5.5 to solve the problem.
But it did not work. Winamp 5.5 starts and crashes instantly when I double click
on any audio files.

Winamp 5.5 released

Reply #82 –
Quote from: IrfCore on
If you don't select media library in the installation, you should be able to have the playlist there instead of an empty library.
Something like on the old Winamp.

I really like this new skin but I hate that I can't have the playlist under the main controls.



Fully agree with you... I DO use the ml, but usually I use the playlist...

It seems the ASIO plugin was NOT the source of the Freezes... (it froze again)...

Winamp 5.5 released

Reply #83 –
Who's gonna make and seriously distribute these surround-mp3 if they demand special decoders. For highest compatibility there is AC-3 and AAC for low bitrates.

Winamp 5.5 released

Reply #84 –
Quote from: DJ-Egg on
Is Nero AAC a gapless format by design?

Yes.

Although the Nero AAC codec has become quite popular in the meantime, its gapless playback feature isn't widely supported yet. On Windows systems it's limited to Nero's own playback software, iTunes and foobar2000, while in the Linux world the situation is even worse. I can't second the claims about XMMS2 supporting Nero's gapless playback, there were audible gaps during my tests, Aqualung hasn't been tested by me so far. Xine supports the feature for a few formats, excluding Nero AAC. A bit of a pity, since I quite like the Amarok player.  Same problem with Quod Libet, which relies on gstreamer.

Summary: If you guys were a bit bored, you'd make quite a lot of Nero/Windows users happy by updating in_mp3/in_mp4 to natively support Nero's gapless approach. I also wouldn't mind anyone doing the same with the xine engine.


Edit: Cut the quote a little.

Winamp 5.5 released

Reply #85 –
Quote from: Junon on
Quote from: DJ-Egg on
Is Nero AAC a gapless format by design?

Yes.

Although the Nero AAC codec has become quite popular in the meantime, its gapless playback feature isn't widely supported yet. On Windows systems it's limited to Nero's own playback software, iTunes and foobar2000, while in the Linux world the situation is even worse. I can't second the claims about XMMS2 supporting Nero's gapless playback, there were audible gaps during my tests, Aqualung hasn't been tested by me so far. Xine supports the feature for a few formats, excluding Nero AAC. A bit of a pity, since I quite like the Amarok player.  Same problem with Quod Libet, which relies on gstreamer.

Summary: If you guys were a bit bored, you'd make quite a lot of Nero/Windows users happy by updating in_mp3/in_mp4 to natively support Nero's gapless approach. I also wouldn't mind anyone doing the same with the xine engine.


Edit: Cut the quote a little.


Are there specs anywhere for Nero's gapless mp4 atom?

Winamp 5.5 released

Reply #86 –
Winamp 5.5 is very sexy.  And with unicode support now, I'm a winamp user again (used to use fb2k).  My very first mp3 player was introduced to me exactly 10 years ago....need I say which one it was? 

Winamp 5.5 released

Reply #87 –
Quote from: QuantumKnot on
Winamp 5.5 is very sexy.  And with unicode support now, I'm a winamp user again (used to use fb2k).  My very first mp3 player was introduced to me exactly 10 years ago....need I say which one it was? 

You and me, brother. You and me

Winamp 5.5 released

Reply #88 –
Revised official in_mp3 update patch for Winamp 5.5 now available
http://www.meggamusic.co.uk/winamp/Winamp5...mp3_update3.exe
http://stashbox.org/52302/Winamp55_in_mp3_update3.exe

This update fixes/addresses the following issues:

-Crashing/lockups on some mp3's with corrupt id3v2 tags
-ID3v2 tag not showing when ID3v1 tag reading is disabled in config
-Reading of metadata where more than one ID3v2 tag exists
-Deleting Lyrics3 tag in Alt+3 Editor also deletes ID3v1 tag
-Handling of ID3v2 with bad version/revision #'s
-MPEG Info not showing in Alt+3 for files with large ID3v2 tags
-Support for reading ALBUM ARTIST field if TPE2 not present
-Other misc. issues, mainly embedded album art related....
-Plus: Better optimization for older Pentium Pro/2/3 cpu's

We recommend that everyone should install this patch :-)

Winamp 5.5 released

Reply #89 –
Quote from: mrbruno on
something really strange happened with winamp.
It was working fine but now it keeps locking or crashing
each time try to play anything. I have to shut it down
with ctrl alt del. It will play maybe 200 ms then locks or crashes.
Even when it plays more,the seek bar is unavailable and
after a short time, the music starts to loop on a small segment.
It does play online radios fine though !!!
To play my files, I have to use my old classic winamp .
This is really strange because it was working fine,this
problem appeared suddenly. (I have not installed anything new
on my comp,or changed the winamp settings)

I have tried re installing winamp5.5 to solve the problem.
But it did not work. Winamp 5.5 starts and crashes instantly when I double click
on any audio files.


Same here

Winamp 5.5 released

Reply #90 –
Is Winamp trying to phase out the "lite" version? It is becoming more and more obscure with each new release on their Download page. I still love the player regardless, keep up the great work! 

Winamp 5.5 released

Reply #92 –
i had the exact same problem as mrbruno & antonski: winamp immediately crashed after trying to play any file with it, except for online radios, even though it was working without problems for a few weeks. i don't remember changing anything around the time these crashes started to happen. the problem then resolved itself after a winamp reinstall (no modern, bento skin support on reinstall).

i much preferred the old way of showing id3v1 & id3v2 on the same window... any way of getting this view back  to cut down on mouse clicking?

Winamp 5.5 released

Reply #93 –
Quote from: n3tfury on
Quote from: pepoluan on

Quote from: QuantumKnot on

Winamp 5.5 is very sexy.  And with unicode support now, I'm a winamp user again (used to use fb2k).  My very first mp3 player was introduced to me exactly 10 years ago....need I say which one it was? 

You and me, brother. You and me


add another to that list


Me too.
Only one thing I don't like: the way you need to use checkboxes to edit tags! Silly! Let me save clicks!

Any way to switch this extra protection off?

Winamp 5.5 released

Reply #94 –
Quote from: eofor on
Quote
Updated: [enc_aacplus] Coding Technologies aacPlus Encoder v8.1.0


I smell a new AAC encoder test!


        hi buddee
                does it have  6ch aac encoder like nero aac

Winamp 5.5 released

Reply #95 –
SOme general questions from a new user:
Is there a way to assign a shortcut to 'get replaygain'?
Is there a way to calculate replaygain to any item added to the library?

ogg replaygain doesn't work for me. Is this a known bug?

Other than that, this is the best player I've used (I'm surprised). And I'm a foobar guy.

Winamp 5.5 released

Reply #96 –
Quote from: j7n on
Quote
Improved: Re-tuned and optimized classic Spectrum Analyzer

It was about time. So far the analyzer looked nicely only for in_mp3 and mp3 format only.
Quote from: baka on
Am I the only one who noticed that the analyzer is no longer accurate?With the previous versions you could tell just by looking at the analyzer if a lowpass was used , but in winamp 5.5 there are no differences between mp3s @ 128Kbps and mp3s @ 320Kbps when looking at the analyzer.
Quote from: DrO on
@j7n: totally agreed and considering there's been a few revisions of the code to get to this point which people have moaned about at every stage, this current code is a better reflection of things though as it's essentially just a gui gimmick as far as i'm concerned i think it looks alright
Why was the old analyzer tied to the MP3 format (even MP2 did not used it)?

Winamp 5.5 released

Reply #97 –
Meanwhile there's some v5.54 around... 
audiophile // flac & wavpack, mostly // using too many audio players

Winamp 5.5 released

Reply #99 –
Why does it have to install Windows Media Player 10?