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  • knik
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Re: how good is the quality of new faac 1.29 (2017-07-17) ?
Reply #50
faac-1.29.8 was buggy, 1.29.8.2 is much better:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/faac/files/faac-src/faac-1.29/faac-1.29.8.2-win64.zip/download

Noticeable changes since 1.29.7.8:
- implemented short windows grouping
- rewritten mid/side coding (makes very audible difference at lower bitrates)
  • Last Edit: 21 October, 2017, 12:23:07 PM by knik

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Re: how good is the quality of new faac 1.29 (2017-07-17) ?
Reply #51
Sounds promising. I will check it later.

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Re: how good is the quality of new faac 1.29 (2017-07-17) ?
Reply #52
1.29.8.2 is very fast, to the point I'm running out of the legend space!


However, I've got many errors while playing the output on foobar2000 v1.3.15.
It happens on many bitrate settings, on many tracks including white noise, sine waves, and music tracks.

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File verification error: Decoding error: Unsupported format or corrupted file, frame: 236 of 236
"C:\vbrtest2\FAAC_vk_12982_64_whit_16.mp4"

File verification error: Decoding error: Unsupported format or corrupted file, frame: 236 of 236
"C:\vbrtest2\FAAC_vk_12982_64_whit_24.mp4"

File verification error: Decoding error: Unsupported format or corrupted file, frame: 236 of 236
"C:\vbrtest2\FAAC_vk_12982_64_whit_32.mp4"

File verification error: Decoding error: Unsupported format or corrupted file, frame: 236 of 236
"C:\vbrtest2\FAAC_vk_12982_64_whit_40.mp4"

File verification error: Decoding error: Unsupported format or corrupted file, frame: 236 of 236
"C:\vbrtest2\FAAC_vk_12982_64_whit_48.mp4"

File verification error: Decoding error: Unsupported format or corrupted file, frame: 236 of 236
"C:\vbrtest2\FAAC_vk_12982_64_whit_56.mp4"

File verification error: Decoding error: Unsupported format or corrupted file, frame: 236 of 236
"C:\vbrtest2\FAAC_vk_12982_64_whit_64.mp4"


File verification error: Decoding error: Unsupported format or corrupted file, frame: 863 of 863
"C:\vbrtest2\FAAC_vk_12982_64_sine_16.mp4"

File verification error: Decoding error: Unsupported format or corrupted file, frame: 863 of 863
"C:\vbrtest2\FAAC_vk_12982_64_sine_24.mp4"


File verification error: Decoding error: Unsupported format or corrupted file, frame: 4009 of 12921
"C:\vbrtest2\FAAC_vk_12982_64_7s40_512.mp4"

File verification error: Decoding error: Unsupported format or corrupted file, frame: 4010 of 12921
"C:\vbrtest2\FAAC_vk_12982_64_7s40_512.mp4"

File verification error: Decoding error: Unsupported format or corrupted file, frame: 4011 of 12921
"C:\vbrtest2\FAAC_vk_12982_64_7s40_512.mp4"

File verification error: Decoding error: Unsupported format or corrupted file, frame: 4012 of 12921
"C:\vbrtest2\FAAC_vk_12982_64_7s40_512.mp4"

File verification error: Decoding error: Unsupported format or corrupted file, frame: 4013 of 12921
"C:\vbrtest2\FAAC_vk_12982_64_7s40_512.mp4"

File verification error: Decoding error: Unsupported format or corrupted file, frame: 4014 of 12921
"C:\vbrtest2\FAAC_vk_12982_64_7s40_512.mp4"

File verification error: Decoding error: Unsupported format or corrupted file, frame: 4015 of 12921
"C:\vbrtest2\FAAC_vk_12982_64_7s40_512.mp4"

File verification error: Decoding error: Unsupported format or corrupted file, frame: 4016 of 12921
"C:\vbrtest2\FAAC_vk_12982_64_7s40_512.mp4"

File verification error: Decoding error: Unsupported format or corrupted file, frame: 4017 of 12921
"C:\vbrtest2\FAAC_vk_12982_64_7s40_512.mp4"

File verification error: Decoding error: Unsupported format or corrupted file, frame: 4018 of 12921
"C:\vbrtest2\FAAC_vk_12982_64_7s40_512.mp4"

File verification error: Decoding error: Unsupported format or corrupted file, frame: 4019 of 12921
"C:\vbrtest2\FAAC_vk_12982_64_7s40_512.mp4"

File verification error: Decoding error: Unsupported format or corrupted file, frame: 4020 of 12921
"C:\vbrtest2\FAAC_vk_12982_64_7s40_512.mp4"

File verification error: Decoding error: Unsupported format or corrupted file, frame: 4021 of 12921
"C:\vbrtest2\FAAC_vk_12982_64_7s40_512.mp4"

File verification error: Decoding error: Unsupported format or corrupted file, frame: 4022 of 12921
"C:\vbrtest2\FAAC_vk_12982_64_7s40_512.mp4"

File verification error: Decoding error: Unsupported format or corrupted file, frame: 4023 of 12921
"C:\vbrtest2\FAAC_vk_12982_64_7s40_512.mp4"

File verification error: Decoding error: Unsupported format or corrupted file, frame: 4024 of 12921
"C:\vbrtest2\FAAC_vk_12982_64_7s40_512.mp4"

File verification error: Decoding error: Unsupported format or corrupted file, frame: 4025 of 12921
"C:\vbrtest2\FAAC_vk_12982_64_7s40_512.mp4"

File verification error: Decoding error: Unsupported format or corrupted file, frame: 4026 of 12921
"C:\vbrtest2\FAAC_vk_12982_64_7s40_512.mp4"

File verification error: Decoding error: Unsupported format or corrupted file, frame: 4027 of 12921
"C:\vbrtest2\FAAC_vk_12982_64_7s40_512.mp4"

File verification error: Decoding error: Unsupported format or corrupted file, frame: 4028 of 12921
"C:\vbrtest2\FAAC_vk_12982_64_7s40_512.mp4"

File verification error: Decoding error: Unsupported format or corrupted file, frame: 4029 of 12921
"C:\vbrtest2\FAAC_vk_12982_64_7s40_512.mp4"

File verification error: Decoding error: Unsupported format or corrupted file, frame: 4030 of 12921
"C:\vbrtest2\FAAC_vk_12982_64_7s40_512.mp4"

File verification error: Decoding error: Unsupported format or corrupted file, frame: 4031 of 12921
"C:\vbrtest2\FAAC_vk_12982_64_7s40_512.mp4"

File verification error: Decoding error: Unsupported format or corrupted file, frame: 4032 of 12921
"C:\vbrtest2\FAAC_vk_12982_64_7s40_512.mp4"

File verification error: Decoding error: Unsupported format or corrupted file, frame: 4033 of 12921
"C:\vbrtest2\FAAC_vk_12982_64_7s40_512.mp4"

File verification error: Decoding error: Unsupported format or corrupted file, frame: 4034 of 12921
"C:\vbrtest2\FAAC_vk_12982_64_7s40_512.mp4"

File verification error: Decoding error: Unsupported format or corrupted file, frame: 4035 of 12921
"C:\vbrtest2\FAAC_vk_12982_64_7s40_512.mp4"

File verification error: Decoding error: Unsupported format or corrupted file, frame: 4036 of 12921
"C:\vbrtest2\FAAC_vk_12982_64_7s40_512.mp4"

File verification error: Decoding error: Unsupported format or corrupted file, frame: 4037 of 12921
"C:\vbrtest2\FAAC_vk_12982_64_7s40_512.mp4"

File verification error: Decoding error: Unsupported format or corrupted file, frame: 4038 of 12921
"C:\vbrtest2\FAAC_vk_12982_64_7s40_512.mp4"

File verification error: Decoding error: Unsupported format or corrupted file, frame: 4039 of 12921
"C:\vbrtest2\FAAC_vk_12982_64_7s40_512.mp4"

File verification error: Decoding error: Unsupported format or corrupted file, frame: 4040 of 12921
"C:\vbrtest2\FAAC_vk_12982_64_7s40_512.mp4"

File verification error: Decoding error: Unsupported format or corrupted file, frame: 4041 of 12921
"C:\vbrtest2\FAAC_vk_12982_64_7s40_512.mp4"

File verification error: Decoding error: Unsupported format or corrupted file, frame: 4009 of 12921
"C:\vbrtest2\FAAC_vk_12982_64_7s40_192.mp4"

File verification error: Decoding error: Unsupported format or corrupted file, frame: 4010 of 12921
"C:\vbrtest2\FAAC_vk_12982_64_7s40_192.mp4"

File verification error: Decoding error: Unsupported format or corrupted file, frame: 4011 of 12921
"C:\vbrtest2\FAAC_vk_12982_64_7s40_192.mp4"

File verification error: Decoding error: Unsupported format or corrupted file, frame: 4012 of 12921
"C:\vbrtest2\FAAC_vk_12982_64_7s40_192.mp4"

File verification error: Decoding error: Unsupported format or corrupted file, frame: 4013 of 12921
"C:\vbrtest2\FAAC_vk_12982_64_7s40_192.mp4"

File verification error: Decoding error: Unsupported format or corrupted file, frame: 4014 of 12921
"C:\vbrtest2\FAAC_vk_12982_64_7s40_192.mp4"

File verification error: Decoding error: Unsupported format or corrupted file, frame: 4015 of 12921
"C:\vbrtest2\FAAC_vk_12982_64_7s40_192.mp4"

File verification error: Decoding error: Unsupported format or corrupted file, frame: 4016 of 12921
"C:\vbrtest2\FAAC_vk_12982_64_7s40_192.mp4"

File verification error: Decoding error: Unsupported format or corrupted file, frame: 4017 of 12921
"C:\vbrtest2\FAAC_vk_12982_64_7s40_192.mp4"

File verification error: Decoding error: Unsupported format or corrupted file, frame: 4018 of 12921
"C:\vbrtest2\FAAC_vk_12982_64_7s40_192.mp4"

File verification error: Decoding error: Unsupported format or corrupted file, frame: 4019 of 12921
"C:\vbrtest2\FAAC_vk_12982_64_7s40_192.mp4"

File verification error: Decoding error: Unsupported format or corrupted file, frame: 4020 of 12921
"C:\vbrtest2\FAAC_vk_12982_64_7s40_192.mp4"

File verification error: Decoding error: Unsupported format or corrupted file, frame: 4021 of 12921
"C:\vbrtest2\FAAC_vk_12982_64_7s40_192.mp4"

File verification error: Decoding error: Unsupported format or corrupted file, frame: 4022 of 12921
"C:\vbrtest2\FAAC_vk_12982_64_7s40_192.mp4"

File verification error: Decoding error: Unsupported format or corrupted file, frame: 4023 of 12921
"C:\vbrtest2\FAAC_vk_12982_64_7s40_192.mp4"

File verification error: Decoding error: Unsupported format or corrupted file, frame: 4024 of 12921
"C:\vbrtest2\FAAC_vk_12982_64_7s40_192.mp4"

File verification error: Decoding error: Unsupported format or corrupted file, frame: 4025 of 12921
"C:\vbrtest2\FAAC_vk_12982_64_7s40_192.mp4"

File verification error: Decoding error: Unsupported format or corrupted file, frame: 4026 of 12921
"C:\vbrtest2\FAAC_vk_12982_64_7s40_192.mp4"

File verification error: Decoding error: Unsupported format or corrupted file, frame: 4027 of 12921
"C:\vbrtest2\FAAC_vk_12982_64_7s40_192.mp4"

File verification error: Decoding error: Unsupported format or corrupted file, frame: 4028 of 12921
"C:\vbrtest2\FAAC_vk_12982_64_7s40_192.mp4"

File verification error: Decoding error: Unsupported format or corrupted file, frame: 4029 of 12921
"C:\vbrtest2\FAAC_vk_12982_64_7s40_192.mp4"

File verification error: Decoding error: Unsupported format or corrupted file, frame: 4030 of 12921
"C:\vbrtest2\FAAC_vk_12982_64_7s40_192.mp4"

File verification error: Decoding error: Unsupported format or corrupted file, frame: 4031 of 12921
"C:\vbrtest2\FAAC_vk_12982_64_7s40_192.mp4"

File verification error: Decoding error: Unsupported format or corrupted file, frame: 4032 of 12921
"C:\vbrtest2\FAAC_vk_12982_64_7s40_192.mp4"

File verification error: Decoding error: Unsupported format or corrupted file, frame: 4033 of 12921
"C:\vbrtest2\FAAC_vk_12982_64_7s40_192.mp4"

File verification error: Decoding error: Unsupported format or corrupted file, frame: 4034 of 12921
"C:\vbrtest2\FAAC_vk_12982_64_7s40_192.mp4"

File verification error: Decoding error: Unsupported format or corrupted file, frame: 4035 of 12921
"C:\vbrtest2\FAAC_vk_12982_64_7s40_192.mp4"

File verification error: Decoding error: Unsupported format or corrupted file, frame: 4036 of 12921
"C:\vbrtest2\FAAC_vk_12982_64_7s40_192.mp4"

File verification error: Decoding error: Unsupported format or corrupted file, frame: 4037 of 12921
"C:\vbrtest2\FAAC_vk_12982_64_7s40_192.mp4"

File verification error: Decoding error: Unsupported format or corrupted file, frame: 4038 of 12921
"C:\vbrtest2\FAAC_vk_12982_64_7s40_192.mp4"

File verification error: Decoding error: Unsupported format or corrupted file, frame: 4039 of 12921
"C:\vbrtest2\FAAC_vk_12982_64_7s40_192.mp4"

File verification error: Decoding error: Unsupported format or corrupted file, frame: 4040 of 12921
"C:\vbrtest2\FAAC_vk_12982_64_7s40_192.mp4"

File verification error: Decoding error: Unsupported format or corrupted file, frame: 4041 of 12921
"C:\vbrtest2\FAAC_vk_12982_64_7s40_192.mp4"

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Re: how good is the quality of new faac 1.29 (2017-07-17) ?
Reply #53
Very interesting finds. Could you upload a couple of those corrupt files somewhere.
Edit:
Never mind. There were a couple of relevant bugs actually and I think I quashed them all.
  • Last Edit: 22 October, 2017, 10:58:58 AM by knik

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Re: how good is the quality of new faac 1.29 (2017-07-17) ?
Reply #54
1.29.8.2 is very fast, to the point I'm running out of the legend space!
I'm afraid I have a plan to speed it up even more, like several percent. Maybe you could remove faac-1.28 and put legend to the bottom.

Anyway, new bugfix release:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/faac/files/faac-src/faac-1.29/faac-1.29.8.3-win64.zip/download

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Re: how good is the quality of new faac 1.29 (2017-07-17) ?
Reply #55
Another bit of faac progress:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/faac/files/faac-src/faac-1.29/faac-1.29.9-win64.zip/download

- initial version of Intensity Stereo
- initial version of PNS
- speed increase

Contrary to popular belief PNS is not that bad. It's more subtle than SBR and allows to throw some noise here and there unobtrusively. Overall, it sounds better than I expected.

With all the recent changes it looks like faac starts to be usable at low bitrates, e.g. faac --over -b40 -c10000

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Re: how good is the quality of new faac 1.29 (2017-07-17) ?
Reply #56
Look at this! The new version is even faster!

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Re: how good is the quality of new faac 1.29 (2017-07-17) ?
Reply #57
Great. Thanks!