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***Thank you very much.***

Thank you for your donation. The non-material value is much much
higher than the material value, which is BTW also astonishing.
I never believed that this is possible. I though it is a crazy idea by a crazy
person. But I was wrong.

To continue the process which started, we need people which also
do the work, which is necessary and which can be done by other people
better than by me. We need 10...20% of the people who gave donations
to divide the quest into clear jobs, which can be separately and more
carefully be done. This would be great.
--  Frank Klemm

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Are you asking us to lend you our ears?

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Are you asking us to lend you our ears?

And to summarize all the things need to be done in order to have a clear roadmap.

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***Thank you very much.***

same to you! welcome back...

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***Thank you very much.***

Thank you for your donation. The non-material value is much much
higher than the material value, which is BTW also astonishing.
I never believed that this is possible. I though it is a crazy idea by a crazy
person. But I was wrong.

To continue the process which started, we need people which also
do the work, which is necessary and which can be done by other people
better than by me. We need 10...20% of the people who gave donations
to divide the quest into clear jobs, which can be separately and more
carefully be done. This would be great.

hmm... maybe mpc is a lot bigger than you think it is.
People use it and they love it.
BTW you could make a s** load more non-material or material value out of it.
Just sit down and realize the potential, it can be wide spread and ..dangerous for all other codes out there.
peace 
Dimitris

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Great to have you back Frank!

Of course, any help you may need - there are many people here for you.

Thanks also to all the donators! It's great that you can all rally together for the sake of progress. <3

Ruairi
rc55.com - nothing going on

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Welcome back Frank!!! I love your job with Musepack!!!
MPC: --quality 10 --xlevel (v. 1.15s) (archive/transcoding)
MP3:  LAME 3.96.1 --preset standard (daily listening/portable)

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My ears are at your disposal 

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I'm happy to do some C coding, ABXing and testing. I've worked with C and Windows for > 14 years, and have a bit of Linux experience. I'm fine with CVS etc, too.

Particularly interesting for me, after the bitstream is sorted, is to sort out a proper musepack port in XBMP (specifically, ripping straight to CD.) We need to get the bsaics done first, though.

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I'm happy to do some C coding, ABXing and testing. I've worked with C and Windows for > 14 years, and have a bit of Linux experience. I'm fine with CVS etc, too.

Particularly interesting for me, after the bitstream is sorted, is to sort out a proper musepack port in XBMP (specifically, ripping straight to CD.) We need to get the bsaics done first, though.

mate, get an account on corecodec.org and pass me your nick via PM, so i can add you to the project and give you CVS access. We may need a new winamp plugin developer, depending on Case. Last i checked his homepage he was stating that he lost interest  ....

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mate, get an account on corecodec.org and pass me your nick via PM, so i can add you to the project and give you CVS access. We may need a new winamp plugin developer, depending on Case. Last i checked his homepage he was stating that he lost interest  ....

What, i thought he already said to Frank that he will continue with it?

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Welcome back Frank 

I'm no great coder, only know some basic assembly, and some C coding.
Anyway, I'd be very happy to test any new alpha encoder/decoder/plugin that need to be tested.  Or even help in any other thing i can do.

I like Musepack a lot, and i'd like to help it's development

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What, i thought he already said to Frank that he will continue with it?

Nobody told me ..... glad to hear that

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The only thing I can give is my time and ears.

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The only thing I can give is my time and ears.

The same goes for me, as well.  I would gladly lend them both .
gentoo ~amd64 + layman | ncmpcpp/mpd | wavpack + vorbis + lame

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mate, get an account on corecodec.org and pass me your nick via PM, so i can add you to the project and give you CVS access. We may need a new winamp plugin developer, depending on Case. Last i checked his homepage he was stating that he lost interest  ....

What, i thought he already said to Frank that he will continue with it?

I'd obviously rather that case continued the work, but am still willing to do any other stuff needed.

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I'd obviously rather that case continued the work, but am still willing to do any other stuff needed.

Welcome in the official dev team seanyseansean, you have CVS access now  ....

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I'd obviously rather that case continued the work, but am still willing to do any other stuff needed.

Welcome in the official dev team seanyseansean, you have CVS access now  ....

Some remarks concerning XMMS-Plugin and XMMS:

Actually I dislike XMMS, because
- it is bug-compatible with WinAMP, it has exactly the same flaws as WinAMP
- Most of the functions I need are missing (one of many examples: Play selected: Click on first title to play, Press and hold Shift, click on last title, release shift, Execute 'play selected')
- All proposals of adding functionality is blocked by 'This make the interface incompatble with the available skins'

Sorry, but when skins are more important than functionality, then XMMS is
dead as a dronte.

Why I use XMMS:
- It's the only GUI program I know
- It make usage of the equalizer, which I use for headphone playback

Why the plugin should be finished:
- It's nearly finished
- It's the only program which plays mpc files on Linux (except mppdec)

Any remarks? Any proposals? Any refuses?

@CHJW: Can you send this article also the the ML?
--  Frank Klemm

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I agree with Frank's opinion of XMMS.  I don't like it much either.

btw.  Does Foobar2000 work under Wine?

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btw.  Does Foobar2000 work under Wine?

Yes, and quite usable actually.

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btw.  Does Foobar2000 work under Wine?

Yes, and quite usable actually.

Funny, i was talking to Frank about this on the phone just a couple of hours ago, and was asking him if it actually made sense to invest time into a XMMS plugin at all, if fb2k could work on WINE. I hope he reads that .....

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of course a native plugin makes sense.

it also makes sense to split the decoding/encoding into a library and keep the frontend executables so other software can benefit from musepack.

...foobar + wine is not a solution. not all features/functionality work

porting foobar (or perhaps coding it cross-platform in the first place, lol) would be better solutions.  there are many options. i'd assume the developers are familiar with them.


later

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Why I use XMMS:
- It's the only GUI program I know
- It make usage of the equalizer, which I use for headphone playback

Why the plugin should be finished:
- It's nearly finished
- It's the only program which plays mpc files on Linux (except mppdec)

Any remarks? Any proposals? Any refuses?

@CHJW: Can you send this article also the the ML?

some updates since you've been away, frank

more software that plays mpc on linux:
lamip & beep-media-player (xmms gtk2 port)

(ciberfred essentially borrowed xmms-musepack plugin code for lamip and it is very primitive)
(lamip is also a non-gui audio interface)

why i use xmms:
it supports the most formats under linux
i.e. one-stop shopping

why musepack should be supported fully on linux:
because it already is! why ditch something that is so easy to continue?
native support is worth far more than emulated support

my .01


later

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Reply #23
Linux really needs a better audioplayer than xmms, in the long run that's the only good solution I think....
But basing anything upon something that has to be run under Wine is.... dodgy at best, I think.... Some, it seems at postings here at HA, have made this work somehow, but I think it depends on distros and other factors how sucessful this might be.... and anyways it will neither be a simple/practical nor popular solution among common *nix users.
As long as the xmms plugin is the best there is for Linux (until a better solution comes along), it shouldn't just be tossed away....
"ONLY THOSE WHO ATTEMPT THE IMPOSSIBLE WILL ACHIEVE THE ABSURD"
        - Oceania Association of Autonomous Astronauts

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There are some bugfixes to the xmms plugin at gentoo.org, check the cvs for patches.

Foobar is quite useful in wine, but unfortunately I can't get encoding/transcoding to work. Has something to do with how the paths are used I guess. Ogg .dll encoding works, but nothing else that I tried. And I don't think there will be a port of foobar in a very long time, Peter P's focus is set on creating the best _windows_ player there is, as simple as that.

 
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