MP3 at 128kbps public listening test Reply #50 – 2003-12-10 16:21:06 QuoteI'm in favor of this. Making some VBR or ABR is rather unfair, IMO, because in my experience, most VBR and ABR modes tend to have, on average, a bitrate that is higher or lower than 128kbpsSo what? I want to know how good LAME is at APPROXIMATELY 128 kbps, doing its best. I don't give a rat's ass about CBR 128, because I know it's not as good! The same goes for Frauhofer's FastEnc and the rest of the bunch. How good can they perform around 128 kbps? Let it show me what they're made of!Saying that VBR and ABR are not representative because the oblivious masses know only of CBR is pure BS! Heck, with that argument there's no point in having a test among different codecs! Not a single soul I know of have heard of MPC, AAC or OGG.So maybe it'll be hard finding settings that will come close to 128 kbps on every encoder, so be it. I think every encoder should be allowed to give it its absolute best. I know this has been beaten to death before but if CBR is the way to go on this test, people will always wonder how different encoders perform not being "crippled".