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EAC - "Cannot be verified as accurate" but CTDB all "Accurately Ripped"?

I understand AccurateRip is an entirely different database from CTDB's. But this is the first time I'm seeing "cannot be verified as accurate (confidence #)" in AccurateRip with all CTDB results showing no differing samples. I always see CTDB with differing samples if the AccurateRip comes back as "cannot be verified as accurate (confidence #)"

Can anyone tell me what is going on? This is a brand new factory pressed CD (not CD-R) made in 2011 or after, I had a close look at it in different lights and see no scratches, wavy lines, splotches, etc.

In the underside of the silver hub there is d:centiaTEC2011023, couldn't find out what that means on Google

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Exact Audio Copy V1.3 from 2. September 2016

EAC extraction logfile from 8. May 2020, 16:49

Pi-Hsien Chen / Arnold Schoenberg Works for Piano

Used drive  : HL-DT-STDVDRAM GT33N   Adapter: 1  ID: 0

Read mode               : Secure
Utilize accurate stream : Yes
Defeat audio cache      : Yes
Make use of C2 pointers : No

Read offset correction                      : 103
Overread into Lead-In and Lead-Out          : No
Fill up missing offset samples with silence : Yes
Delete leading and trailing silent blocks   : No
Null samples used in CRC calculations       : Yes
Used interface                              : Native Win32 interface for Win NT & 2000
Gap handling                                : Appended to previous track

Used output format              : User Defined Encoder
Selected bitrate                : 128 kBit/s
Quality                         : High
Add ID3 tag                     : No
Command line compressor         : C:\Program Files (x86)\Exact Audio Copy\Flac\flac.exe
Additional command line options : -8 -V -T "ARTIST=%artist%" -T "TITLE=%title%" -T "ALBUM=%albumtitle%" -T "DATE=%year%" -T "TRACKNUMBER=%tracknr%" -T "TOTALTRACKS=%numtracks%" -T "GENRE=%genre%" -T "ALBUMARTIST=%albumartist%" -T "ALBUM ARTIST=%albumartist%" -T "COMMENT=EAC Secure Mode, Test & Copy, AccurateRip, FLAC -8" %source%


TOC of the extracted CD

     Track |   Start  |  Length  | Start sector | End sector
    ---------------------------------------------------------
        1  |  0:00.00 |  1:56.62 |         0    |     8761  
        2  |  1:56.62 |  2:38.63 |      8762    |    20674  
        3  |  4:35.50 |  2:48.50 |     20675    |    33324  
        4  |  7:24.25 |  2:02.50 |     33325    |    42524  
        5  |  9:27.00 |  3:18.25 |     42525    |    57399  
        6  | 12:45.25 |  2:49.12 |     57400    |    70086  
        7  | 15:34.37 |  0:55.63 |     70087    |    74274  
        8  | 16:30.25 |  0:21.62 |     74275    |    75911  
        9  | 16:52.12 |  0:52.25 |     75912    |    79836  
       10  | 17:44.37 |  4:09.00 |     79837    |    98511  
       11  | 21:53.37 |  7:06.25 |     98512    |   130486  
       12  | 28:59.62 |  2:38.00 |    130487    |   142336  
       13  | 31:37.62 |  0:46.38 |    142337    |   145824  
       14  | 32:24.25 |  0:34.00 |    145825    |   148374  
       15  | 32:58.25 |  1:27.37 |    148375    |   154936  
       16  | 34:25.62 |  1:04.25 |    154937    |   159761  
       17  | 35:30.12 |  1:07.38 |    159762    |   164824  
       18  | 36:37.50 |  0:24.00 |    164825    |   166624  
       19  | 37:01.50 |  0:34.00 |    166625    |   169174  
       20  | 37:35.50 |  1:44.37 |    169175    |   177011  
       21  | 39:20.12 |  0:47.50 |    177012    |   180586  
       22  | 40:07.62 |  0:53.25 |    180587    |   184586  
       23  | 41:01.12 |  0:37.13 |    184587    |   187374  
       24  | 41:38.25 |  1:42.25 |    187375    |   195049  
       25  | 43:20.50 |  1:28.00 |    195050    |   201649  
       26  | 44:48.50 |  2:31.50 |    201650    |   213024  
       27  | 47:20.25 |  1:45.50 |    213025    |   220949  
       28  | 49:06.00 |  2:24.62 |    220950    |   231811  
       29  | 51:30.62 |  0:53.63 |    231812    |   235849  
       30  | 52:24.50 |  1:09.25 |    235850    |   241049  
       31  | 53:34.00 |  2:13.62 |    241050    |   251086  
       32  | 55:47.62 |  3:46.63 |    251087    |   268099  
       33  | 59:34.50 |  3:27.50 |    268100    |   283674  
       34  | 63:02.25 |  2:35.62 |    283675    |   295361  
       35  | 65:38.12 |  2:14.50 |    295362    |   305461  
       36  | 67:52.62 |  1:56.63 |    305462    |   314224  
       37  | 69:49.50 |  2:10.12 |    314225    |   323986  
       38  | 71:59.62 |  1:01.63 |    323987    |   328624  
       39  | 73:01.50 |  1:19.12 |    328625    |   334561  
       40  | 74:20.62 |  3:06.00 |    334562    |   348511  
       41  | 77:26.62 |  0:15.63 |    348512    |   349699  
       42  | 77:42.50 |  1:04.25 |    349700    |   354524  


Track  1

     Filename C:\cdrips\01 - Drei Klavierstücke 1894 -Andontino.wav

     Pre-gap length  0:00:02.00

     Peak level 65.1 %
     Extraction speed 0.9 X
     Track quality 99.9 %
     Test CRC 7C0DDB55
     Copy CRC 7C0DDB55
     Accurately ripped (confidence 2)  [F57D09FE]  (AR v2)
     Copy OK

Track  2

     Filename C:\cdrips\02 - Drei Klavierstücke 1894 -Andantino grazioso.wav

     Peak level 95.8 %
     Extraction speed 1.3 X
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC 277F7B98
     Copy CRC 277F7B98
     Accurately ripped (confidence 2)  [61D5D6E4]  (AR v2)
     Copy OK

Track  3

     Filename C:\cdrips\03 - Drei Klavierstücke 1894 -Presto.wav

     Peak level 97.7 %
     Extraction speed 1.1 X
     Track quality 99.9 %
     Test CRC 104D4FE0
     Copy CRC 104D4FE0
     Accurately ripped (confidence 2)  [753F4B71]  (AR v2)
     Copy OK

Track  4

     Filename C:\cdrips\04 - I.Fragment eines Scherzos für Klavier.wav

     Peak level 96.9 %
     Extraction speed 1.3 X
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC 098DB056
     Copy CRC 098DB056
     Accurately ripped (confidence 2)  [015D93DC]  (AR v2)
     Copy OK

Track  5

     Filename C:\cdrips\05 - II.Fragment eines Klavierstücks.wav

     Peak level 96.9 %
     Extraction speed 1.5 X
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC FF14C99E
     Copy CRC FF14C99E
     Accurately ripped (confidence 2)  [0FA28B9E]  (AR v2)
     Copy OK

Track  6

     Filename C:\cdrips\06 - III.Fragment eines Klavierstücks.wav

     Peak level 98.8 %
     Extraction speed 1.5 X
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC 5E18F776
     Copy CRC 5E18F776
     Accurately ripped (confidence 2)  [94FFAABC]  (AR v2)
     Copy OK

Track  7

     Filename C:\cdrips\07 - IV.Fragment eines Klavierstücks.wav

     Peak level 47.1 %
     Extraction speed 1.1 X
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC 29F64EE9
     Copy CRC 29F64EE9
     Accurately ripped (confidence 2)  [36B465B9]  (AR v2)
     Copy OK

Track  8

     Filename C:\cdrips\08 - -V.Zwei Fragmente eines Klavierstücks.wav

     Peak level 56.8 %
     Extraction speed 0.6 X
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC 062C889B
     Copy CRC 062C889B
     Accurately ripped (confidence 2)  [E265D038]  (AR v2)
     Copy OK

Track  9

     Filename C:\cdrips\09 - VI.Fragment eines Klavierstücks.wav

     Peak level 96.9 %
     Extraction speed 1.1 X
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC 17146A16
     Copy CRC 17146A16
     Accurately ripped (confidence 2)  [0E057446]  (AR v2)
     Copy OK

Track 10

     Filename C:\cdrips\10 - Drei Klavierstücke op.11 -Mässige Viertel.wav

     Peak level 96.9 %
     Extraction speed 1.6 X
     Track quality 99.9 %
     Test CRC E75672F9
     Copy CRC E75672F9
     Cannot be verified as accurate (confidence 4)  [21929CC1], AccurateRip returned [761A9CA2]  (AR v2)
     Copy OK

Track 11

     Filename C:\cdrips\11 - Drei Klavierstücke op.11 -Mässige Achtel.wav

     Peak level 93.7 %
     Extraction speed 2.0 X
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC 377AEC58
     Copy CRC 377AEC58
     Cannot be verified as accurate (confidence 4)  [6618BBCD], AccurateRip returned [C196E4F5]  (AR v2)
     Copy OK

Track 12

     Filename C:\cdrips\12 - Drei Klavierstücke op.11 -Bewegte Achtel.wav

     Peak level 99.8 %
     Extraction speed 1.5 X
     Track quality 99.9 %
     Test CRC 2A4C03F3
     Copy CRC 2A4C03F3
     Cannot be verified as accurate (confidence 4)  [F1D94549], AccurateRip returned [F141821B]  (AR v2)
     Copy OK

Track 13

     Filename C:\cdrips\13 - VII Fragment eines Klavierstücks.wav

     Pre-gap length  0:00:00.01

     Peak level 87.5 %
     Extraction speed 1.3 X
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC B4A43208
     Copy CRC B4A43208
     Accurately ripped (confidence 2)  [A3FD7E32]  (AR v2)
     Copy OK

Track 14

     Filename C:\cdrips\14 - üVIII Fragment eines Klavierstücks.wav

     Pre-gap length  0:00:00.01

     Peak level 96.9 %
     Extraction speed 1.1 X
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC 88E00A59
     Copy CRC 88E00A59
     Accurately ripped (confidence 2)  [7457E13F]  (AR v2)
     Copy OK

Track 15

     Filename C:\cdrips\15 - Sechs kleine Klavierstücke op.19 -leicht, zart.wav

     Peak level 68.4 %
     Extraction speed 1.6 X
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC 3E50519E
     Copy CRC 3E50519E
     Cannot be verified as accurate (confidence 4)  [5A44C64F], AccurateRip returned [E83353BB]  (AR v2)
     Copy OK

Track 16

     Filename C:\cdrips\16 - Sechs kleine Klavierstücke op.19 -langsam.wav

     Peak level 23.7 %
     Extraction speed 1.5 X
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC 9EA198D3
     Copy CRC 9EA198D3
     Cannot be verified as accurate (confidence 4)  [8433F206], AccurateRip returned [91DF16C9]  (AR v2)
     Copy OK

Track 17

     Filename C:\cdrips\17 - Sechs kleine Klavierstückek op.19 -Sehr langsame Viertel.wav

     Peak level 52.2 %
     Extraction speed 1.5 X
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC 63861C79
     Copy CRC 63861C79
     Cannot be verified as accurate (confidence 4)  [A4A0B05A], AccurateRip returned [4B9814F7]  (AR v2)
     Copy OK

Track 18

     Filename C:\cdrips\18 - Sechs kleine Klavierstücke op.19 -Rasch, aber leicht.wav

     Peak level 73.6 %
     Extraction speed 0.9 X
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC 3CCAF4E8
     Copy CRC 3CCAF4E8
     Cannot be verified as accurate (confidence 4)  [63F99CE7], AccurateRip returned [736E012F]  (AR v2)
     Copy OK

Track 19

     Filename C:\cdrips\19 - Sechs kleine Klavierstücke op.19 -Etwas rasch.wav

     Peak level 68.6 %
     Extraction speed 1.1 X
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC 3C682F5F
     Copy CRC 3C682F5F
     Cannot be verified as accurate (confidence 4)  [BDFE49CF], AccurateRip returned [A8CE8F25]  (AR v2)
     Copy OK

Track 20

     Filename C:\cdrips\20 - Sechs kleine Klavierstücke op.19 -Sehr langsam.wav

     Peak level 6.8 %
     Extraction speed 1.8 X
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC 9F5C5BD0
     Copy CRC 9F5C5BD0
     Cannot be verified as accurate (confidence 4)  [41B60174], AccurateRip returned [0FC4BA04]  (AR v2)
     Copy OK

Track 21

     Filename C:\cdrips\21 - IX Fragment eines Klavierstücks.wav

     Peak level 96.9 %
     Extraction speed 1.3 X
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC 3BA8BA41
     Copy CRC 3BA8BA41
     Accurately ripped (confidence 2)  [7F141D43]  (AR v2)
     Copy OK

Track 22

     Filename C:\cdrips\22 - X Fragment eines Klavierstücks.wav

     Peak level 26.4 %
     Extraction speed 1.5 X
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC 0D938280
     Copy CRC 0D938280
     Accurately ripped (confidence 2)  [3411F1FD]  (AR v2)
     Copy OK

Track 23

     Filename C:\cdrips\23 - XI Fragment eines Klavierstücks.wav

     Peak level 45.9 %
     Extraction speed 0.8 X
     Track quality 99.7 %
     Test CRC CC9365B7
     Copy CRC CC9365B7
     Accurately ripped (confidence 2)  [8E314A91]  (AR v2)
     Copy OK

Track 24

     Filename C:\cdrips\24 - Fünf Klavierstücke op.23 -Sehr langsam.wav

     Peak level 79.3 %
     Extraction speed 1.9 X
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC 7468FB96
     Copy CRC 7468FB96
     Cannot be verified as accurate (confidence 4)  [6207F8D9], AccurateRip returned [E0A1AE63]  (AR v2)
     Copy OK

Track 25

     Filename C:\cdrips\25 - Fünf Klavierstücke op.23 -Sehr rasch.wav

     Peak level 97.2 %
     Extraction speed 1.8 X
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC 2DE88F5A
     Copy CRC 2DE88F5A
     Cannot be verified as accurate (confidence 4)  [7443DE44], AccurateRip returned [EC8D58E3]  (AR v2)
     Copy OK

Track 26

     Filename C:\cdrips\26 - Fünf Klavierstücke op.23 -Langsam.wav

     Peak level 97.7 %
     Extraction speed 2.1 X
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC 03D2DCF3
     Copy CRC 03D2DCF3
     Accurately ripped (confidence 2)  [12464AB4]  (AR v2)
     Copy OK

Track 27

     Filename C:\cdrips\27 - Fünf Klavierstücke op.23 -Schwungvoll.wav

     Peak level 97.3 %
     Extraction speed 2.0 X
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC 5B52E824
     Copy CRC 5B52E824
     Cannot be verified as accurate (confidence 4)  [0EF3E431], AccurateRip returned [82425FA3]  (AR v2)
     Copy OK

Track 28

     Filename C:\cdrips\28 - Fünf Klavierstücke op.23 -Walzer.wav

     Peak level 98.8 %
     Extraction speed 2.2 X
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC 0F53CCAF
     Copy CRC 0F53CCAF
     Cannot be verified as accurate (confidence 4)  [8A4D5BDA], AccurateRip returned [05812B5E]  (AR v2)
     Copy OK

Track 29

     Filename C:\cdrips\29 - Suite für Klavier op.25 -Präludium.wav

     Peak level 96.9 %
     Extraction speed 1.6 X
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC 7CCAB9B6
     Copy CRC 7CCAB9B6
     Cannot be verified as accurate (confidence 4)  [12ECB55E], AccurateRip returned [90D292F4]  (AR v2)
     Copy OK

Track 30

     Filename C:\cdrips\30 - Suite für Klavier op.25 -Gavott.wav

     Peak level 75.6 %
     Extraction speed 1.7 X
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC 58CD8BA3
     Copy CRC 58CD8BA3
     Accurately ripped (confidence 2)  [4CFE68B3]  (AR v2)
     Copy OK

Track 31

     Filename C:\cdrips\31 - Suite für Klavier op.25 -Musette.wav

     Peak level 88.6 %
     Extraction speed 2.2 X
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC E0A25A73
     Copy CRC E0A25A73
     Accurately ripped (confidence 2)  [62B1B58F]  (AR v2)
     Copy OK

Track 32

     Filename C:\cdrips\32 - Suite für Klavier op.25 -Intermezzo.wav

     Peak level 96.9 %
     Extraction speed 2.4 X
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC FA6A1579
     Copy CRC FA6A1579
     Cannot be verified as accurate (confidence 4)  [AAC37801], AccurateRip returned [7B9D04E8]  (AR v2)
     Copy OK

Track 33

     Filename C:\cdrips\33 - Suite für Klavier op.25 -Menuett mit Trio.wav

     Peak level 82.4 %
     Extraction speed 2.4 X
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC 3348677B
     Copy CRC 3348677B
     Cannot be verified as accurate (confidence 4)  [CE798534], AccurateRip returned [03D8C533]  (AR v2)
     Copy OK

Track 34

     Filename C:\cdrips\34 - Suite für Klavier op.25 -Gigue.wav

     Peak level 97.7 %
     Extraction speed 2.4 X
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC 43EB201E
     Copy CRC 43EB201E
     Accurately ripped (confidence 2)  [03CC1500]  (AR v2)
     Copy OK

Track 35

     Filename C:\cdrips\35 - XII Fragment eines Klavierstücks.wav

     Peak level 91.0 %
     Extraction speed 2.3 X
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC 043BB393
     Copy CRC 043BB393
     Accurately ripped (confidence 3)  [BD9D4EB5]  (AR v2)
     Copy OK

Track 36

     Filename C:\cdrips\36 - Klavierstück op.33 a.wav

     Peak level 94.3 %
     Extraction speed 1.8 X
     Track quality 99.9 %
     Test CRC A5CCBC11
     Copy CRC A5CCBC11
     Accurately ripped (confidence 2)  [A91F8F34]  (AR v2)
     Copy OK

Track 37

     Filename C:\cdrips\37 - XIII Fragment eines Klavierstücks.wav

     Peak level 94.3 %
     Extraction speed 1.9 X
     Track quality 99.9 %
     Test CRC A89AA84C
     Copy CRC A89AA84C
     Accurately ripped (confidence 3)  [3E51685C]  (AR v2)
     Copy OK

Track 38

     Filename C:\cdrips\38 - XIV Fragment eines Klavierstücks.wav

     Peak level 96.9 %
     Extraction speed 1.9 X
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC 1FF4F463
     Copy CRC 1FF4F463
     Accurately ripped (confidence 3)  [CF2F357E]  (AR v2)
     Copy OK

Track 39

     Filename C:\cdrips\39 - XV Fragment eines Klaverstücks.wav

     Peak level 35.8 %
     Extraction speed 2.1 X
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC 56FBBEEA
     Copy CRC 56FBBEEA
     Accurately ripped (confidence 2)  [664F13CD]  (AR v2)
     Copy OK

Track 40

     Filename C:\cdrips\40 - Klavierstück op.33 b.wav

     Peak level 92.4 %
     Extraction speed 2.7 X
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC 5B9D9259
     Copy CRC 5B9D9259
     Cannot be verified as accurate (confidence 3)  [E850C149], AccurateRip returned [210DFE21]  (AR v2)
     Copy OK

Track 41

     Filename C:\cdrips\41 - XVI Fragment eines Klavierstücks.wav

     Peak level 27.2 %
     Extraction speed 0.9 X
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC 806152EF
     Copy CRC 806152EF
     Accurately ripped (confidence 3)  [FCEC2DBD]  (AR v2)
     Copy OK

Track 42

     Filename C:\cdrips\42 - XVII Fragment eines Klavierstücks.wav

     Peak level 66.3 %
     Extraction speed 2.0 X
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC F0CCC816
     Copy CRC F0CCC816
     Accurately ripped (confidence 3)  [9EBE5EE3]  (AR v2)
     Copy OK


25 track(s) accurately ripped
17 track(s) could not be verified as accurate

Some tracks could not be verified as accurate

No errors occurred

End of status report

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Re: EAC - "Cannot be verified as accurate" but CTDB all "Accurately Ripped"?

Reply #1
All the tracks that verified in AccurateRip for your pressing appear to be (confidence 2).
When there are only 2 rips for the same track and they don't match each other, both entries are removed from the database and put into limbo until a rip is submitted that matches one of them. Then the two that match go into the database.
One of the two previous submissions for this pressing may have had issues so no entries currently exist in the database to verify some of the tracks.
'Cannot be verified as accurate (confidence 4)' - The 4 is likely from a different pressing.
korth

Re: EAC - "Cannot be verified as accurate" but CTDB all "Accurately Ripped"?

Reply #2
All the tracks that verified in AccurateRip for your pressing appear to be (confidence 2).
When there are only 2 rips for the same track and they don't match each other, both entries are removed from the database and put into limbo until a rip is submitted that matches one of them. Then the two that match go into the database.
One of the two previous submissions for this pressing may have had issues so no entries currently exist in the database to verify some of the tracks.
'Cannot be verified as accurate (confidence 4)' - The 4 is likely from a different pressing.

Thanks for the explanation, there are an alarming number of "17 track(s) could not be verified as accurate"

And yet CTDB shows no differing samples out of 6 submissions all being the same, if I am reading that right? That is what I am wondering about.

Re: EAC - "Cannot be verified as accurate" but CTDB all "Accurately Ripped"?

Reply #3
Hmm, tried dbpoweramp on the same CD drive/PC and all tracks verified with AccurateRip

Just a different ripping engine doing a better job with a problematic disc?

For instance track 15 that gave a different result in EAC:
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     Test CRC 3E50519E
     Copy CRC 3E50519E
Cannot be verified as accurate (confidence 4)  [5A44C64F], AccurateRip returned [E83353BB]  (AR v2)

dbpoweramp:
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Track 15:  Ripped LBA 148375 to 154937 (1:27) in 0:11. Filename: C:\Aitne\Pi-Hsien Chen\Arnold Schoenberg Works for Piano\15 - Sechs kleine Klavierstücke op.19 -leicht, zart._
  AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 4)     [Pass 1]
  CRC32: 3E50519E     AccurateRip CRC: E83353BB     [DiscID: 042-00799e7c-0da31f20-8812772a-15]
  AccurateRip Verified Confidence 4 [CRCv2 e83353bb], Using Pressing Offset -6
  AccurateRip Verified Confidence 2 [CRCv1 e6d76a5b], Using Pressing Offset -6

CRC32 from dbpoweramp is identical to EAC's test and copy CRC. Yet the Accurate Rip CRC is now matching what is in the Accurate Rip database: E83353BB     and different from what I got with the EAC rip.

This is confusing?

Here is the Pastebin link to the full dbpoweramp log, I can't paste it here since it exceeds 20k characters: https://pastebin.com/r3KfxDqn

Re: EAC - "Cannot be verified as accurate" but CTDB all "Accurately Ripped"?

Reply #4
The AccurateRip plugin in EAC can only check if that exact pressing exists. dbpoweramp is using cross-pressing verification and found v1 and v2 matches at Pressing Offset -6 (not for your exact pressing). Look at track 14.
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Track 14
[...]
     Copy CRC 88E00A59
     Accurately ripped (confidence 2)  [7457E13F]  (AR v2)
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Track 14:  Ripped LBA 145825 to 148375 (0:34) in 0:04. Filename: C:\cdrips\Pi-Hsien Chen\Arnold Schoenberg Works for Piano\14 - üVIII Fragment eines Klavierstücks._
  AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 2)     [Pass 1]
  CRC32: 88E00A59     AccurateRip CRC: 7457E13F (CRCv2)     [DiscID: 042-00799e7c-0da31f20-8812772a-14]
  AccurateRip Verified Confidence 2 [CRCv2 7457e13f]
  AccurateRip Verified Confidence 4 [CRCv2 2396c7f0], Using Pressing Offset -6
  AccurateRip Verified Confidence 2 [CRCv1 3a1d56a7], Using Pressing Offset -6
dbpoweramp found a match for your pressing plus found v1 and v2 matches at Pressing Offset -6

Once your rip is submitted to AccurateRip (and sufficient time has passed for the database to update) you could check the rip again to see if any of the 17 were in limbo for your pressing. As long as all Accurate tracks are at least (confidence 3)[1] you'll know one of the rips isn't yours.

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And yet CTDB shows no differing samples out of 6 submissions all being the same, if I am reading that right? That is what I am wondering about.
CTDB stores multiple pressings in one place. The CTDB plugin showed all tracks Accurate in the EAC log.
edit: I wrote this before I knew about the dbpoweramp rip and had to change 2 to 3
korth

Re: EAC - "Cannot be verified as accurate" but CTDB all "Accurately Ripped"?

Reply #5
Ahh excellent, thank you! I never heard of "cross-pressing verification" but doing an exact search for that term turns up loads of information.

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Once your rip is submitted to AccurateRip (and sufficient time has passed for the database to update) you could check the rip again to see if any of the 17 were in limbo for your pressing.

I can certainly do this. I take it makes no difference whether I do this in dbpoweramp or EAC?

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CTDB stores multiple pressings in one place. The CTDB plugin showed all tracks Accurate in the EAC log.

Very good information, thanks.

Edit: I thought AccurateRip stored a "drive ID" or something like that so that multiple submissions of the same disc from the same drive wouldn't cause the AccruateRip number to increase?

Re: EAC - "Cannot be verified as accurate" but CTDB all "Accurately Ripped"?

Reply #6
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I take it makes no difference whether I do this in dbpoweramp or EAC?
You could use PerfectTUNES or CUETools to verify without re-ripping
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Edit: I thought AccurateRip stored a "drive ID" or something like that so that multiple submissions of the same disc from the same drive wouldn't cause the AccruateRip number to increase?
ComputerID + some additional info
korth

Re: EAC - "Cannot be verified as accurate" but CTDB all "Accurately Ripped"?

Reply #7
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I take it makes no difference whether I do this in dbpoweramp or EAC?
You could use PerfectTUNES or CUETools to verify without re-ripping
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Edit: I thought AccurateRip stored a "drive ID" or something like that so that multiple submissions of the same disc from the same drive wouldn't cause the AccruateRip number to increase?
ComputerID + some additional info

So even with the database having access to that information it will increase the AccurateRip number when the same disc is ripped on the same PC/drive?

I have AccurateRip set to submit every 30 days, I've made a reminder to verify with CueTools in a couple of months.

Re: EAC - "Cannot be verified as accurate" but CTDB all "Accurately Ripped"?

Reply #8
I'm fairly certain you can't confirm your own (confidence 1) rip (including from the same IP) and you can't increase the confidence using the same machine, software and drive but I don't recall if rips are accepted for different combinations (same machine, different software, same drive, same IP or same machine, same software, different drive, same IP, etc.).
korth

 
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