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NEED HELP ABOUT OPUS and OGG

Hi.
I'm new here. I found this forum is helpful. I need some help.
I always listen FLAC and MP3 320kbps. But I found there's a huge quality change from FLAC to MP3 because it's lossy.
MP3 sounds muddy to me. But I found VORBIS and OPUS are awesome. They delivers much clean sound than MP3.

At 480kbps bitrate I can't find the difference between FLAC and OPUS. So I decided to convert all my FLAC files to OPUS.
I have the software EZ CD AUDIO CONVERTER. Which can easily convert FLAC files to OPUS with album art and tags.

But there's a problem with EZ CD AUDIO CONVERTER. When I convert FLAC to OPUS it gives me an .OPUS extension.
Which I don't want and There's no option for changing file extension. I want a .OGG container which will carry OPUS codec.
In short I want OGG OPUS. But EZ CD AUDIO CONVERTER has only OGG VORBIS.

VLC Player has that option. When I convert FLAC with VLC Player. I can choose between file extension. If I choose OPUS, It will make an .opus file for me.
But if I choose .OGG then It will give me an .ogg file. But that file still carry OPUS inside. But VLC has a problem. It will remove all the tags and album art, which I don't want.

I have 1000+ songs in FLAC, which I want to convert in OPUS with '.ogg' extension with all tags and Album Art.
So is there any software that can do that like VLC but keeps ALBUM ART and TAGS. or Is there any way to do that?

Thanks.

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Try wavpack hybrid encoding .  You create a master lossless archive  consisting of a lossy file and a  'correction' file.  The lossy can be used in conjucntion with the correction for lossless playback or standalone for lossy. For storage starved devices, just copy  the .wv lossy file and you get lossy playback - all tagging intact.  For extreme quality demands you can use -b400hx4c. This gives a hybrid encoding with 400k lossy part.
wavpack 4.8 -b3x6c

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I recommend you not use this "EZ CD AUDIO CONVERTER". If you still want to convert to opus files with .ogg extensions you can do this in foobar2000 with custom commandline settings. You'd just change the highlighted part in the attached picture to ogg.

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THANK YOU SO MUCH.
IT WORKS.

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I am getting this ERROR when I change "--VBR" to "--CBR" in parameter. Please see the photos.

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[...]ERROR when I [...] "--CBR" in parameter.
Of coze. RTFM!!!! opus.exe (lame.exe, qaac.exe...) -h
At 480kbps bitrate I can't find the difference between FLAC and OPUS.
Heh! But at 256kbps you CAN find the difference between FLAC and OPUS?
try lossyflac (-q -5 -a 7 -U 8 )/(--keep-foreign-metadata -V -b512 -5)
For extreme quality demands you can use -b400hx4c.
For -c parametr -f is better, becouse -h & -hh with -c more compress wvc-file, but less compress wv-file. -x parametr also not "trivial" work with -c.
Sorry for my "eanglish"/

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With Opus the command is --hard-cbr. I'm not the biggest opus user, but i think that it is more designed to use variable bit rates. Another flag you can try is --cvbr which is a constrained version of the variable bit rate. --vbr is probably the way to go.

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This thread is causing synapse suicide in my brain...

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I always listen FLAC and MP3 320kbps. But I found there's a huge quality change from FLAC to MP3 because it's lossy.
MP3 sounds muddy to me

MP3 at 320 kbit/s does not sound muddy. Which encouder are you using?

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At 480kbps bitrate I can't find the difference between FLAC and OPUS

480 kbps is ridiculous overkill for a modern lossy codec like opus and it makes no sense to even use lossy for such a small reduction in filesize.

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This thread is causing synapse suicide in my brain...

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MP3 at 320 kbit/s does not sound muddy. Which encouder are you using?
I've tried lots of converter like Wondershare, TAC, AVC but I found MP3 has some serious problem with low and high frequency.

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480 kbps is ridiculous overkill for a modern lossy codec like opus and it makes no sense to even use lossy for such a small reduction in filesize.
I want file size 10-15mb. FLAC files are too large for me.
With Opus the command is --hard-cbr. I'm not the biggest opus user, but i think that it is more designed to use variable bit rates. Another flag you can try is --cvbr which is a constrained version of the variable bit rate. --vbr is probably the way to go.
Thanks. "--hard-cbr" works.

[...]ERROR when I [...] "--CBR" in parameter.
Of coze. RTFM!!!! opus.exe (lame.exe, qaac.exe...) -h
At 480kbps bitrate I can't find the difference between FLAC and OPUS.
Heh! But at 256kbps you CAN find the difference between FLAC and OPUS?
try lossyflac (-q -5 -a 7 -U 8 )/(--keep-foreign-metadata -V -b512 -5)
For extreme quality demands you can use -b400hx4c.
For -c parametr -f is better, becouse -h & -hh with -c more compress wvc-file, but less compress wv-file. -x parametr also not "trivial" work with -c.
Sorry for my "eanglish"/
I'm new a user of Foobar2000 . I did not understand any of that.

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MP3 sounds muddy to me
TOS #8?

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MP3 sounds muddy to me


What does muddy sound like?

 
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