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Is my rip accurate?

Hey guys. Sorry if i'm posting in the wrong section.

I'm ripping all my CD collection, and so far so good, i'm using EAC + LAME to do that.

On my latest rip, i got "Some tracks could not be verified as accurate". The CD is pretty good, does have the occasional scratch or two, but i've ripped succesfully pretty worse CD's without any errors.

My question is, how can i trust that the rip is OK? is it worth to go use CUETools (which i'm a newbie at) to 'repair' it? and how do i trust the repair is accurate?

here's the log:

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Exact Audio Copy V1.3 from 2. September 2016

EAC extraction logfile from 29. August 2018, 23:03

Korn / Greatest Hits Vol. 1

Used drive  : TSSTcorpCDDVDW SH-222BB   Adapter: 1  ID: 0

Read mode               : Secure
Utilize accurate stream : Yes
Defeat audio cache      : No
Make use of C2 pointers : No

Read offset correction                      : 6
Overread into Lead-In and Lead-Out          : No
Fill up missing offset samples with silence : Yes
Delete leading and trailing silent blocks   : No
Null samples used in CRC calculations       : Yes
Used interface                              : Native Win32 interface for Win NT & 2000
Gap handling                                : Not detected, thus appended to previous track

Used output format              : LAME MP3 Encoder
Selected bitrate                : 128 kBit/s
Quality                         : High
Add ID3 tag                     : Yes
Command line compressor         : C:\Users\tiago\Downloads\LAME\lame.exe
Additional command line options : -m j -V 0 -q 0 --lowpass 19.5 --vbr-new -b 32


TOC of the extracted CD

     Track |   Start  |  Length  | Start sector | End sector
    ---------------------------------------------------------
        1  |  0:00.00 |  2:53.24 |         0    |    12998  
        2  |  2:53.24 |  7:09.50 |     12999    |    45223  
        3  | 10:02.74 |  3:20.36 |     45224    |    60259  
        4  | 13:23.35 |  3:13.25 |     60260    |    74759  
        5  | 16:36.60 |  4:07.67 |     74760    |    93351  
        6  | 20:44.52 |  4:17.49 |     93352    |   112675  
        7  | 25:02.26 |  4:31.61 |    112676    |   133061  
        8  | 29:34.12 |  3:28.14 |    133062    |   148675  
        9  | 33:02.26 |  3:50.74 |    148676    |   165999  
       10  | 36:53.25 |  3:56.53 |    166000    |   183752  
       11  | 40:50.03 |  4:31.58 |    183753    |   204135  
       12  | 45:21.61 |  3:48.36 |    204136    |   221271  
       13  | 49:10.22 |  4:17.68 |    221272    |   240614  
       14  | 53:28.15 |  0:50.71 |    240615    |   244435  
       15  | 54:19.11 |  2:35.18 |    244436    |   256078  
       16  | 56:54.29 |  4:38.16 |    256079    |   276944  
       17  | 61:32.45 |  5:23.39 |    276945    |   301208  
       18  | 66:56.09 |  4:20.74 |    301209    |   320782  
       19  | 71:17.08 |  4:47.33 |    320783    |   342340  


Track  1

     Filename D:\eac\good\Korn-Greatest_Hits_Vol._1-2xxx-2\01-Korn-Word_Up!-.wav

     Peak level 100.0 %
     Extraction speed 6.5 X
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Copy CRC 7924CE58
     Accurately ripped (confidence 127)  [DA795BEC]  (AR v2)
     Copy OK

Track  2

     Filename D:\eac\good\Korn-Greatest_Hits_Vol._1-2xxx-2\02-Korn-Another_Brick_In_The_Wall_(Parts_1,_2,_3)-.wav

     Peak level 100.0 %
     Extraction speed 3.5 X
     Track quality 99.9 %
     Copy CRC 32470647
     Cannot be verified as accurate (confidence 178)  [1884991B], AccurateRip returned [7B5C4617]  (AR v2)
     Copy OK

Track  3

     Filename D:\eac\good\Korn-Greatest_Hits_Vol._1-2xxx-2\03-Korn-Y'All_Want_A_Single-.wav

     Peak level 100.0 %
     Extraction speed 3.9 X
     Track quality 99.9 %
     Copy CRC E7367AC7
     Accurately ripped (confidence 127)  [CFD6C296]  (AR v2)
     Copy OK

Track  4

     Filename D:\eac\good\Korn-Greatest_Hits_Vol._1-2xxx-2\04-Korn-Right_Now-.wav

     Peak level 100.0 %
     Extraction speed 4.2 X
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Copy CRC C61589A1
     Accurately ripped (confidence 127)  [88BBD78F]  (AR v2)
     Copy OK

Track  5

     Filename D:\eac\good\Korn-Greatest_Hits_Vol._1-2xxx-2\05-Korn-Did_My_Time-.wav

     Peak level 100.0 %
     Extraction speed 4.5 X
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Copy CRC 75AABDF0
     Accurately ripped (confidence 127)  [FBF3C529]  (AR v2)
     Copy OK

Track  6

     Filename D:\eac\good\Korn-Greatest_Hits_Vol._1-2xxx-2\06-Korn-Alone_I_Break-.wav

     Peak level 100.0 %
     Extraction speed 4.6 X
     Track quality 99.9 %
     Copy CRC 93125C41
     Accurately ripped (confidence 126)  [8F0E63CE]  (AR v2)
     Copy OK

Track  7

     Filename D:\eac\good\Korn-Greatest_Hits_Vol._1-2xxx-2\07-Korn-Here_To_Stay-.wav

     Peak level 100.0 %
     Extraction speed 5.0 X
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Copy CRC 65CB915D
     Accurately ripped (confidence 126)  [71BC67E3]  (AR v2)
     Copy OK

Track  8

     Filename D:\eac\good\Korn-Greatest_Hits_Vol._1-2xxx-2\08-Korn-Trash-.wav

     Peak level 100.0 %
     Extraction speed 5.2 X
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Copy CRC 5D9B4781
     Accurately ripped (confidence 127)  [1E31E07E]  (AR v2)
     Copy OK

Track  9

     Filename D:\eac\good\Korn-Greatest_Hits_Vol._1-2xxx-2\09-Korn-Somebody_Someone-.wav

     Peak level 100.0 %
     Extraction speed 5.4 X
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Copy CRC 1A4AA932
     Accurately ripped (confidence 127)  [7842C3B8]  (AR v2)
     Copy OK

Track 10

     Filename D:\eac\good\Korn-Greatest_Hits_Vol._1-2xxx-2\10-Korn-Make_Me_Bad-.wav

     Peak level 100.0 %
     Extraction speed 5.3 X
     Track quality 99.9 %
     Copy CRC A6DC5622
     Accurately ripped (confidence 127)  [FEA76994]  (AR v2)
     Copy OK

Track 11

     Filename D:\eac\good\Korn-Greatest_Hits_Vol._1-2xxx-2\11-Korn-Falling_Away_From_Me-.wav

     Peak level 100.0 %
     Extraction speed 5.7 X
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Copy CRC C8C1CA3B
     Accurately ripped (confidence 127)  [65F3F36C]  (AR v2)
     Copy OK

Track 12

     Filename D:\eac\good\Korn-Greatest_Hits_Vol._1-2xxx-2\12-Korn-Got_The_Life-.wav

     Peak level 100.0 %
     Extraction speed 6.0 X
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Copy CRC EA55C17B
     Accurately ripped (confidence 127)  [86F51628]  (AR v2)
     Copy OK

Track 13

     Filename D:\eac\good\Korn-Greatest_Hits_Vol._1-2xxx-2\13-Korn-Freak_On_A_Leash-.wav

     Peak level 100.0 %
     Extraction speed 6.1 X
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Copy CRC 18A71400
     Accurately ripped (confidence 127)  [1FD1E934]  (AR v2)
     Copy OK

Track 14

     Filename D:\eac\good\Korn-Greatest_Hits_Vol._1-2xxx-2\14-Korn-Twist-.wav

     Peak level 100.0 %
     Extraction speed 5.7 X
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Copy CRC 9F99E3F6
     Accurately ripped (confidence 127)  [F80ADA40]  (AR v2)
     Copy OK

Track 15

     Filename D:\eac\good\Korn-Greatest_Hits_Vol._1-2xxx-2\15-Korn-A.D.I.D.A.S.-.wav

     Peak level 100.0 %
     Extraction speed 6.2 X
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Copy CRC 876E91A8
     Accurately ripped (confidence 127)  [52908F19]  (AR v2)
     Copy OK

Track 16

     Filename D:\eac\good\Korn-Greatest_Hits_Vol._1-2xxx-2\16-Korn-Clown-.wav

     Peak level 100.0 %
     Extraction speed 6.1 X
     Track quality 99.9 %
     Copy CRC 0B54E976
     Accurately ripped (confidence 124)  [3FA1D740]  (AR v2)
     Copy OK

Track 17

     Filename D:\eac\good\Korn-Greatest_Hits_Vol._1-2xxx-2\17-Korn-Shoots_And_Ladders-.wav

     Peak level 100.0 %
     Extraction speed 6.6 X
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Copy CRC EE19B166
     Accurately ripped (confidence 125)  [44E97000]  (AR v2)
     Copy OK

Track 18

     Filename D:\eac\good\Korn-Greatest_Hits_Vol._1-2xxx-2\18-Korn-Blind-.wav

     Peak level 100.0 %
     Extraction speed 6.8 X
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Copy CRC 5976B562
     Accurately ripped (confidence 124)  [FAC4E133]  (AR v2)
     Copy OK

Track 19

     Filename D:\eac\good\Korn-Greatest_Hits_Vol._1-2xxx-2\19-Korn-Freak_On_A_Leash_(Dante_Ross_Mix)-.wav

     Peak level 100.0 %
     Extraction speed 7.0 X
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Copy CRC 5C8F18C9
     Accurately ripped (confidence 124)  [3CADF146]  (AR v2)
     Copy OK


18 track(s) accurately ripped
 1 track(s) could not be verified as accurate

Some tracks could not be verified as accurate

No errors occurred

End of status report

---- CUETools DB Plugin V2.1.6

[CTDB TOCID: tN7_bssc1A6.7dFvO5ZPMf4AarM-] found
Submit result: tN7_bssc1A6.7dFvO5ZPMf4AarM- has been submitted
Track | CTDB Status
  1   | (892/899) Accurately ripped
  2   | (839/899) Differs in 13 samples @06:26:34,06:26:46,06:26:70,06:27:44, or (2/899) differs in 13 samples @06:26:34,06:26:46,06:26:70,06:27:44
  3   | (890/899) Accurately ripped
  4   | (887/899) Accurately ripped
  5   | (888/899) Accurately ripped
  6   | (890/899) Accurately ripped
  7   | (891/899) Accurately ripped
  8   | (893/899) Accurately ripped
  9   | (887/899) Accurately ripped
 10   | (892/899) Accurately ripped
 11   | (889/899) Accurately ripped
 12   | (892/899) Accurately ripped
 13   | (894/899) Accurately ripped
 14   | (895/899) Accurately ripped
 15   | (891/899) Accurately ripped
 16   | (892/899) Accurately ripped
 17   | (885/899) Accurately ripped
 18   | (882/899) Accurately ripped
 19   | (873/899) Accurately ripped, or (2/899) differs in 40 samples @04:32:16,04:32:38,04:34:24,04:36:32-04:36:33
If you are sure that your rip contains errors, you can use CUETools to repair it.


Thanks in advance guys

Re: Is my rip accurate?

Reply #1
Used output format              : LAME MP3 Encoder
Selected bitrate                : 128 kBit/s
Quality                         : High
Add ID3 tag                     : Yes
Command line compressor         : C:\Users\tiago\Downloads\LAME\lame.exe
Additional command line options : -m j -V 0 -q 0 --lowpass 19.5 --vbr-new -b 32

With those setting I would never ask you to share me a .mp3...

1º at all, why 128 kbps ?? what´s your matter with 320 kbps ??
2º Why "quality high" ?? it is the -q0 u can see above...
3º what r u trying to do with a - lowpass at 19.5 ?? i knew 20.5 was the default value.
4º - mj ?? join stereo... it is discutible... i prefer - ms
5º VBR, it is your choise, the mine always will be CBR.

U have to configure your CD R-RW drive in the option tab of EAC... and enable all... je je. It is turning too large to explain just now each items.

Re: Is my rip accurate?

Reply #2
I'm ripping all my CD collection, and so far so good, i'm using EAC + LAME to do that.

You cannot repair lossies.


My question is, how can i trust that the rip is OK? is it worth to go use CUETools (which i'm a newbie at) to 'repair' it? and how do i trust the repair is accurate?
It has a few samples wrong. Whether that is "OK" depends on ...
Whether it is worth to use CUETools? Up to you, it isn't that hard. But you cannot repair a lossy anyway.
How to trust the repair is accurate? If it verifies AccurateRip - with more confidence than "your own submission" - then someone else got the same result. (I take it that the "2/899" in the CUETools database are your own submissions. AccurateRip does at least take measures to prevent multi-submissions from the same computer. Note CUETools is updated when you submit, so you will see your own submission; AccurateRip is only updated every few weeks, so you won't.)


And, ignore the reply from nuker. Seriously.
Memento: this is Hydrogenaudio. Do not assume good faith.

Re: Is my rip accurate?

Reply #3
To use CUETools, you would have to rip to uncompressed WAV or lossless compression (such as FLAC). After MP3 compression, data is lost so the rip can no longer be verified by the databases. You probably won't be able to perceive the difference of so few samples but as Porcus pointed out, that's up to you.

The external compression settings in EAC are not configured properly. I suggest ignoring nuker's comments and reading the following instead
https://hydrogenaud.io/index.php/topic,57617.0.html
http://wiki.hydrogenaud.io/index.php?title=EAC_and_Lame
http://wiki.hydrogenaud.io/index.php?title=LAME

You cannot submit identical data using the same hardware to the CUETools DataBase more than once so I don't see the "2/899" coming from your own submissions unless you tried ripping from multiple computers or drives.
korth

Re: Is my rip accurate?

Reply #4
AccurateRip is a wonderful thing!!!   But, I never had an audible error when EAC reported "no errors". 

I've even had a few with reported errors where I couldn't hear a defect.    If it sounds OK I try  to get over it, and after awhile I don't even remember which CDs got errors.   

I ripped most of my CDs before AccurateRip was introduced and since then, I've ripped a few that were not in the AccurateRip database... 

Oh...  In a couple of cases I've "fixed" glitches with an audio editor.  (That was before Cue Tools Repair, but I'd do it again if I had to.)     Of course, that's not digitally-perfect but in many cases it can be audibly-perfect.

Re: Is my rip accurate?

Reply #5
1º at all, why 128 kbps ?? what´s your matter with 320 kbps ??
2º Why "quality high" ?? it is the -q0 u can see above...
3º what r u trying to do with a - lowpass at 19.5 ?? i knew 20.5 was the default value.
4º - mj ?? join stereo... it is discutible... i prefer - ms
5º VBR, it is your choise, the mine always will be CBR.
1º it's EAC's "default" value, and from what i know it does "-b 128", so if my additional command lines say "-b 32", i guess they "takeover" the 128 value, right? i don't want CBR 320kbps since i think it's a waste of space and a overkill.
2º what's wrong with using q0 ? didn't understand ?
3º it's a value i saw somewhere in this forum i think, and i know for a fact that release groups also use that value. should i use default 20.5? why not this one?
4º from what i read joint-stereo is better overall
5º you prefer 320 kbps, sure, i don't see the point on doing that, it's a overkill, plus, from the average kbps i see on most rips, they are rarely above 250 kbps.
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Re: Is my rip accurate?

Reply #6
hey guys, thanks for the help so far.

i've now set the encoder on EAC to "User defined" and chose lame.exe, i noticed in fact EAC was sending the -b 128 to the encoder, which is unnecessary.

i have one question, tho. i looked at the full command line switch, of LAME, can you tell me what is the difference between using "-h" (high quality) and "q0" ? for what i can understand, i don't need to use "-h" if i understand the concept of using "q0" or "q2", etc, right? or are they different parameters?

as to the AccurateRip "errors", i think i'll let them pass, as much as it bothers me, lol.

thanks in advance guys, really appreciate it !!

Re: Is my rip accurate?

Reply #7
1º it's EAC's "default" value, and from what i know it does "-b 128", so if my additional command lines say "-b 32", i guess they "takeover" the 128 value, right? i don't want CBR 320kbps since i think it's a waste of space and a overkill.
2º what's wrong with using q0 ? didn't understand ?
3º it's a value i saw somewhere in this forum i think, and i know for a fact that release groups also use that value. should i use default 20.5? why not this one?
4º from what i read joint-stereo is better overall
5º you prefer 320 kbps, sure, i don't see the point on doing that, it's a overkill, plus, from the average kbps i see on most rips, they are rarely above 250 kbps.
??

Please just ignore his post, he doesn't understand LAME settings nor has provided any evidence he can tell any difference between anything :)

Re: Is my rip accurate?

Reply #8
-h is the same as -q2. You shouldn't use both -h and -q[0..9].
-q3 will be used by default if you don't specify a setting.
korth

 
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