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Different pressings with LARGE offset differences?

AccurateRip cross-pressing verification software does only test within a range of offsets.  Here are two pressings which differ in a whopping 18692 samples. (Yes, 0.42 seconds is enough to make the track boundaries a bit off.)

This is an album with quite some pressings (Queensryche: Operation Mindcrime), so in practice it does not require any cross-pressing validation at all, if one ripped it AccurateRip-awarely (with offset corrected). And one sample does differ in between the albums, in addition to six end-of-disc samples in the rips. Anyway, CUETools logs follow below.

The "better" track boundaries first:
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[CUETools log; Date: 02.08.2017 14:39:00; Version: 2.1.6]
Using preserved id, actual id is 001fa463-01707530-d70de10f.
[CTDB TOCID: x2x51.3IHTeW4bliocY6xa_HHbE-] found.
Track | CTDB Status
  1   | (271/565) Accurately ripped
  2   | (274/565) Accurately ripped
  3   | (273/565) Accurately ripped
  4   | (275/565) Accurately ripped
  5   | (274/565) Accurately ripped
  6   | (273/565) Accurately ripped
  7   | ( 52/565) Accurately ripped, or (54/565) differs in 1 samples @04:29:60, or (138/565) differs in 1 samples @04:29:60
  8   | (267/565) Accurately ripped
  9   | (275/565) Accurately ripped
 10   | (276/565) Accurately ripped
 11   | (273/565) Accurately ripped
 12   | (272/565) Accurately ripped
 13   | (274/565) Accurately ripped
 14   | (276/565) Accurately ripped
 15   | (195/565) Accurately ripped, or (54/565) differs in 5075 samples @06:37:49-06:38:02
[AccurateRip ID: 001fa663-0170862f-d20de20f] found.
Track   [  CRC   |   V2   ] Status
 01     [8415d2b5|2b3a4912] (036+024/724) Accurately ripped
 02     [8516034f|aa26fe28] (036+025/722) Accurately ripped
 03     [aa7a019e|6b3502db] (035+024/722) Accurately ripped
 04     [cf3fb32b|f32f1596] (035+024/728) Accurately ripped
 05     [3d6927de|ff74cc4e] (035+025/723) Accurately ripped
 06     [48ff9402|398be3f4] (034+026/724) Accurately ripped
 07     [7ade0afe|c61df890] (033+025/721) Accurately ripped
 08     [b3ac3401|14d98343] (033+024/717) Accurately ripped
 09     [5d2bc68d|2e732969] (036+027/725) Accurately ripped
 10     [0173bb11|049e7792] (034+026/725) Accurately ripped
 11     [51348e8b|d865ee8b] (034+025/720) Accurately ripped
 12     [2696f08e|72b9b679] (033+025/716) Accurately ripped
 13     [efe9bd5c|ab154e66] (033+026/722) Accurately ripped
 14     [cdc99fe6|860be006] (035+027/721) Accurately ripped
 15     [7cc8c897|b1ef95c2] (034+025/690) Accurately ripped
Offsetted by 1518:
 01     [9ad15c70] (024/724) Accurately ripped
 02     [57caa561] (025/722) Accurately ripped
 03     [16b95203] (024/722) Accurately ripped
 04     [374c2437] (025/728) Accurately ripped
 05     [a193639b] (024/723) Accurately ripped
 06     [d75499ba] (024/724) Accurately ripped
 07     [77e8351d] (024/721) Accurately ripped
 08     [6df42a4f] (023/717) Accurately ripped
 09     [7f3ea085] (024/725) Accurately ripped
 10     [86d92c4f] (025/725) Accurately ripped
 11     [13a86fab] (024/720) Accurately ripped
 12     [56458db4] (024/716) Accurately ripped
 13     [34115ae9] (025/722) Accurately ripped
 14     [84366dbc] (024/721) Accurately ripped
 15     [3c1e065b] (023/690) Accurately ripped
Offsetted by 2870:
 01     [3b97b52a] (038/724) Accurately ripped
 02     [d39d1516] (037/722) Accurately ripped
 03     [0faca718] (037/722) Accurately ripped
 04     [e989345e] (036/728) Accurately ripped
 05     [b613d233] (037/723) Accurately ripped
 06     [b18373db] (037/724) Accurately ripped
 07     [1ce2111e] (000/721) No match (V2 was not tested)
 08     [aef37e2e] (037/717) Accurately ripped
 09     [76f9fca5] (036/725) Accurately ripped
 10     [b8484b07] (037/725) Accurately ripped
 11     [85d9b9e4] (037/720) Accurately ripped
 12     [8fe29b15] (036/716) Accurately ripped
 13     [3df5f0f3] (037/722) Accurately ripped
 14     [85387630] (036/721) Accurately ripped
 15     [0c95c411] (000/690) No match (V2 was not tested)

Track Peak [ CRC32  ] [W/O NULL]
 --   97,0 [BF940808] [3C28D51B]          
 01   30,9 [CF2AE222] [1694130F]          
 02   74,3 [AD8DE062] [A286D4F0]          
 03   94,7 [B1BBB926] [4E314861]          
 04   95,1 [12D90F47] [919E6E8C]          
 05   89,4 [B41DF55C] [70307FD8]          
 06   93,7 [10969E40] [822C0D63]          
 07   94,0 [82E73940] [8D8D96FC]          
 08   94,8 [536D2D44] [B5A5880B]          
 09   89,7 [00FA9E68] [BF05C195]          
 10   89,0 [F5A68A17] [3707860B]          
 11   94,0 [783FCC1E] [2FF3D24F]          
 12   97,0 [5637132F] [ED65FA2F]          
 13   30,7 [CB22853A] [64C3188B]          
 14   54,1 [E25BC94B] [C16E6A67]          
 15   96,3 [0C5C1EE6] [AE1E6A48]          

Then, the "worse" track boundaries pressing seems be more common:
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[CUETools log; Date: 02.08.2017 14:38:39; Version: 2.1.6]
Pregap length 00:00:32.
[CTDB TOCID: x2x51.3IHTeW4bliocY6xa_HHbE-] found.
Track | CTDB Status
  1   | (265/565) Accurately ripped
  2   | (263/565) Accurately ripped
  3   | (260/565) Accurately ripped
  4   | (262/565) Accurately ripped
  5   | (262/565) Accurately ripped
  6   | (261/565) Accurately ripped
  7   | (260/565) Accurately ripped
  8   | (259/565) Accurately ripped
  9   | (262/565) Accurately ripped
 10   | (262/565) Accurately ripped
 11   | (258/565) Accurately ripped
 12   | (260/565) Accurately ripped
 13   | (259/565) Accurately ripped
 14   | (258/565) Accurately ripped
 15   | (228/565) Accurately ripped
[AccurateRip ID: 001fa663-0170862f-d20de20f] found.
Track   [  CRC   |   V2   ] Status
 01     [bb34fd41|0d050ba3] (119+117/724) Accurately ripped
 02     [9a252c4f|bb4f4f46] (118+118/722) Accurately ripped
 03     [91a9883a|96734050] (117+117/722) Accurately ripped
 04     [608146fd|49a48f3a] (120+118/728) Accurately ripped
 05     [52593561|7f8247b5] (120+117/723) Accurately ripped
 06     [1d9ed390|eba13ca3] (119+117/724) Accurately ripped
 07     [c950c110|55ff15c9] (117+117/721) Accurately ripped
 08     [65888894|cdf689a0] (119+116/717) Accurately ripped
 09     [9b7b9848|774f1292] (120+115/725) Accurately ripped
 10     [06ae296e|be59776f] (119+117/725) Accurately ripped
 11     [f7034194|4206bfcf] (118+117/720) Accurately ripped
 12     [0eeb1da7|e3132120] (118+115/716) Accurately ripped
 13     [746797ac|32b3b735] (118+116/722) Accurately ripped
 14     [946a7714|878d0f2f] (121+116/721) Accurately ripped
 15     [52a45334|0d4bbd59] (116+109/690) Accurately ripped
Offsetted by -255:
 01     [1cec5205] (002/724) Accurately ripped
 02     [755b1dfe] (002/722) Accurately ripped
 03     [559747b2] (002/722) Accurately ripped
 04     [09f1f988] (002/728) Accurately ripped
 05     [ccc29b5c] (002/723) Accurately ripped
 06     [c2ce6290] (002/724) Accurately ripped
 07     [aaadb3e1] (002/721) Accurately ripped
 08     [60fe06ff] (002/717) Accurately ripped
 09     [01b5e91a] (002/725) Accurately ripped
 10     [971697b1] (002/725) Accurately ripped
 11     [e232cc71] (002/720) Accurately ripped
 12     [568d2f95] (002/716) Accurately ripped
 13     [855f1829] (002/722) Accurately ripped
 14     [918d66e7] (002/721) Accurately ripped
 15     [b74c0912] (002/690) Accurately ripped
Offsetted by -169:
 01     [d3bf01de] (063/724) Accurately ripped
 02     [6241d4d9] (064/722) Accurately ripped
 03     [30ebc038] (065/722) Accurately ripped
 04     [e0f9474d] (065/728) Accurately ripped
 05     [10536665] (065/723) Accurately ripped
 06     [5f1a4f37] (065/724) Accurately ripped
 07     [13d213ec] (066/721) Accurately ripped
 08     [d0d165fe] (065/717) Accurately ripped
 09     [8955df5f] (064/725) Accurately ripped
 10     [b4b4fd1d] (064/725) Accurately ripped
 11     [75a0bd8a] (064/720) Accurately ripped
 12     [1ad87067] (063/716) Accurately ripped
 13     [2a672749] (064/722) Accurately ripped
 14     [74a8e313] (064/721) Accurately ripped
 15     [c70a9c21] (062/690) Accurately ripped

Track Peak [ CRC32  ] [W/O NULL]
 --   97,0 [9BB5F3C3] [A04EBD15]          
 01   30,9 [C69F366F] [43BD6F10]          
 02   74,3 [68AA03B4] [CD6B83B5]          
 03   94,7 [302FC969] [8650271F]          
 04   95,1 [131CB345] [EF6149FB]          
 05   93,2 [8EFDB108] [A27EE6AA]          
 06   93,7 [E43993A5] [863AC779]          
 07   94,0 [C035F4EA] [9CFAB3E9]          
 08   94,8 [EB2DA733] [3647B529]          
 09   89,7 [75AF7CA2] [B65A7AAD]          
 10   89,0 [512B604C] [7B6C8F7F]          
 11   94,0 [2D19C5C6] [09CA3044]          
 12   97,0 [3BA3A4D0] [15B79745]          
 13   33,3 [4E509A35] [5EED61B2]          
 14   54,1 [3CD484E9] [ED69E8CE]          
 15   96,3 [5959A268] [85EB75E9]          

The offset range covers about 120 AR hits by the first pressing and about 300 in the second.
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