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Foobar banned from Digitally Imported and Radiotunes?

Today we realized Foobar on Windows cannot play radio stream anymore.
When we click some channel in playlist, it only play audio host that said something like this:

"An Important Message.
Due to the Licensing Restriction.
Free access to stream radio channel is now only available on website or through official mobile apps."

WTH is this ?

Foobar banned from Digitally Imported and Radiotunes?

Reply #1
Not sure what kind of answers you expect? If you don't like the new licensing restrictions of your radio stream providers this is clearly the wrong place to complain about that, because foobar2000 can't do anything about that.

Foobar banned from Digitally Imported and Radiotunes?

Reply #2
Not sure what kind of answers you expect? If you don't like the new licensing restrictions of your radio stream providers this is clearly the wrong place to complain about that, because foobar2000 can't do anything about that.


Does not sound like complaining.
I am here just to check what really happened.
Maybe the radio stations want Foobar to send some royalty to them.

Who knows? 

Foobar banned from Digitally Imported and Radiotunes?

Reply #3
These channels listed in my Foobar playlist, all returned with the new Licensing Restricted message, all dead now.

Digitally Imported AAC+
    00's Club Hits    Ambient    Bass & Jackin' House    Bassline    Big Beat    Big Room House    Breaks    ChillHop    Chillout    Chillout Dreams    Chillstep    Chill & Tropical House    Classic EuroDance    Classic EuroDisco    Classic Trance    Classic Vocal Trance    Club Dubstep    Club Sounds    Dark DnB    Dark PsyTrance    Deep House    Deep Nu-Disco    Deep Tech    Detroit House & Techno    Disco House    DJ Mixes    Downtempo Lounge    Drum 'n Bass    Drumstep    Dub    Dubstep    Dub Techno    EBM    EcLectronica    Electro House    Electronic Pioneers    Electronics    Electropop    Electro Swing    Epic Trance    EuroDance    Funky House    Future Beats    Future Garage    Future Synthpop    Gabber    Glitch Hop    Goa-Psy Trance    Hands Up    Hardcore    Hard Dance    Hardstyle    Hard Techno    House    IDM    Indie Dance    Jungle    Jazz House    Latin House    Liquid DnB    Liquid Dubstep    Liquid Trap    Lounge    Mainstage    Melodic Progressive    Minimal    Nightcore    Nu Disco    Oldschool Acid    Oldschool House    Oldschool Rave    Oldschool Techno & Trance    Progressive    Progressive Psy    Psybient    PsyChill    Russian Club Hits    Soulful House    Space Dreams    Tech House    Techno    Trance    Trap    Tribal House    UMF Radio    Underground Techno    Vocal Chillout    Vocal Lounge    Vocal Trance

RadioTunes AAC+
    00's Hits    00's R&B    60's Rock    80's Alt & New Wave    80's Dance    80's Rock Hits    90's Hits    90's R&B    Alternative Rock    Ambient    American Songbook    Baroque Period  Bebop Jazz    Best of the 60's    Best of the 80's    Blues Rock    Bossa Nova    Café de Paris    Chillout    Classic Christmas    Classic Hip-Hop    Classic Motown    Classic Rock    Classical Guitar    Classical Period    Classical Piano Trios    Club Bollywood    Contemporary Christian    Country    Dance Hits    Dave Koz & Friends    DaTempo Lounge    Disco Party    Downtempo Lounge    Dreamscapes    EDM Fest    EuroDance    Halloween    Hard Rock    Hit 70's    Holiday Smooth Jazz    Indie Rock    Jazz Classics    Jpop    Lounge    Love Music    Meditation    Mellow Jazz    Mellow Smooth Jazz    Metal    Modern Blues    Modern Rock    Mostly Classical    Movie Soundtracks    Mozart    Nature    New Age    Old School Funk & Soul    Oldies    Piano Jazz    Pop Christmas    Pop Rock    Reggaeton    Relaxation    Relaxing Ambient Piano    Romantic Period    Romantica    Roots Reggae    Salsa    Slow Jams    Smooth Bossa Nova    Smooth Jazz    Smooth Jazz 24'7    Smooth Lounge    Soft Rock    Solo Piano    Top Hits    Uptempo Smooth Jazz    Urban Hits    Urban Pop Hits    Vocal Chillout    Vocal Lounge    Vocal New Age    Vocal Smooth Jazz    World


Foobar banned from Digitally Imported and Radiotunes?

Reply #4
There's no other apps on this planet that equal Foobar for playing audio.

Programmable Reverb
Noise Sharpening
Freeverb DSP
FreeSurround
Dolby Headphone

There are no DSPs like that in their official apps or or website player.

Foobar banned from Digitally Imported and Radiotunes?

Reply #5
Sadly, it looks like you can't use foobar anymore, unless it can pretend to be the website or an official app.

Foobar banned from Digitally Imported and Radiotunes?

Reply #6
Does not sound like complaining.

These channels listed in my Foobar playlist, all returned with the new Licensing Restricted message, all dead now.

There are no DSPs like that in their official apps or or website player.

Does not sound like complaining.

Now it does.

Foobar banned from Digitally Imported and Radiotunes?

Reply #7
Sadly, it looks like you can't use foobar anymore, unless it can pretend to be the website or an official app.


Website -> Virtual soundcard -> foo_record -> foobar2000 audio engine -> real sound card?

But I'm not sure that it can work reliably.

Foobar banned from Digitally Imported and Radiotunes?

Reply #8
Route foobar2000 through a proxy that spoofs user-agent? Might take a look at this after work. There might be an elegant solution. This restriction is utter bullshit and there's likely a quick and easy technical workaround (that might be outside the scope of the Terms of Service here, TBH...)

EDIT: Not simple, but not too hard. Probably a couple hours' dev time? Of course, it's an arms race scenario, so you can't go too public with it or they'll patch the hole.

Foobar banned from Digitally Imported and Radiotunes?

Reply #9
Some programs allow to override their default User-Agent string...


Foobar banned from Digitally Imported and Radiotunes?

Reply #11
It still works for me to listen on DI through Foobar. I tried only listening on the Minimal channel and Liquid Dnb (and tried it for a few minutes only). My region is Sweden and have DI Premium. Have they turned streaming off only for non-premium and/or certain regions? (Guess DI support can answer that)

Foobar banned from Digitally Imported and Radiotunes?

Reply #12
Foobar has not been blacklisted. Every media player that can stream will no longer work thanks to new royalty rates small broadcaster are forced to pay. Most will close up shop or require you to use their app and/or website in order to listen to their streams so that they can generate ad revenue.

Radiotunes has a message that explains this on their streams. You should have listened more closely



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Reply #15
http://www.radiotunes.com/founder-letter]Radiotunes.com have posted a letter.

Quote
In the final weeks of 2015, the Copyright Royalty Board (CRB) in the United States imposed new royalty rates for the years spanning 2016-2020. In the process, this move also eliminated the special royalty rates which existed for small webcasters such as RadioTunes.

Effective January, 2016, our royalty costs will therefore increase dramatically, as they will for all the other independent webcasters in the US. I am sad to say that many will likely not stay in business as advertising revenue will not be enough to pay for their costs.

Damn, what a blow to online radio. Looking at the posted list above there would be hundreds, if not thousands, more affected stations.

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Reply #16
So basically, even the smallest of non-commercial broadcasters must pay $500 per year per channel. Those that exceed the equivalent of 18 listeners idling on the station 24/7/365, must pay the per-song rate above the minimum listening time. And they expect full playlists for the entire covered period, monthly, and payments in the form of check, money order, or bank transfer.

I don't know how they expect they can enforce this for small, unknown stations.


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Reply #18
Any news/hack available yet? :(
I mean , it's still impossible to listen to DI on media/radio players?

Cheers...

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Reply #19
I doubt it, but thanks for posting, all the same.


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Reply #21
I don't know for sure. But you're welcome to try it. I assume all streaming radio services require you to use their own playback apps or web pages now, as a result of steep regulation and licensing fees.