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M-Audio Revolution for music production?

I've read alot about the sound quality, etc of the revo, but not much about its capabilities for music production.  Now I realize that its not meant as a pro-quality card, but since its very close in other capabilities to the Audiophile 24/96 I would hope in production its similarly good.  And by good, I'm talking about: low-latency for midi, and good drivers.  Are there ASIO drivers or GSIF (Gigastudio) drivers available?

Also I've heard the recording capabilities have been downgraded from the audiophile.  What is the max bit/freq the Revo records at?  Hissy analog inputs? (ala sb live)

Thanks alot.

M-Audio Revolution for music production?

Reply #1 –
From what I've read so far, the delta series is better suited for this kind of tasks.

You might also want to consider posting the same question at http://www.avsforum.com , the HTPC section.

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Reply #2 –
Thanks for that info.  Unfortunately I lack the funds to purchase a delta right now, whereas I noticed the revo for sale for the first time in my city today at a decent price.

Still interested if anyone has any latency information, or whether its compatible with gigastudio.  The HTPC forum isn't really geared to tasks like that, but thanks for the link regardless.

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I'm talking about: low-latency for midi


The Revolution does not support midi.

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The Revolution does not support midi.

!!!  How come?

I am thinking of buying one.. at the moment using onboard audio..  I am interested in it's quality of recording (from line/mic), is it sufficiently better than my AC'97 (with ports that have receeded inside the computer case ) to warrant spending a lot of money..
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I'm talking about: low-latency for midi


The Revolution does not support midi.

Are you certain?  I find this very hard to believe considering the revo comes with a trial version of Reason.  Where did you read/hear this?

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Reply #6 –
I do not own the revolution but I do own a Delta 1010. Anyhow, I imagine that, although it will be better than your MB's AC97 driver, the recording quality is unlikely to be at the same level as the Audiophile. The revolution is targeted at listening to multichannel DVD whereas the Audiophile is targeted at stereo listening and recording. Some statistics:

Revolution A->D Signal to Noise: 100 db
Revolution D->A Signal to Noise: 107 db
Delta 1010 A->D Signal to Noise: 114 db

That's a bigger difference then it seems

Destron

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I'm talking about: low-latency for midi


The Revolution does not support midi.

Are you certain?  I find this very hard to believe considering the revo comes with a trial version of Reason.  Where did you read/hear this?

No, the Revolution doesn't support MIDI - I just got one last week.  I'm still using my old Yamaha WaveForce soundcard's MIDI port.

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Reply #8 –
About Revo/Aureon (and possibly some other Envy24HT cards) and music production:
1. No MIDI support of any kind (synth/ports)
2. No GSIF support (and it's not planned)
3. ASIOv2 supported, but without DirectMonitoring

These cards are mainstream cards, so this is expected.

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well thats totally garbage...  I mean, even my ac97 motherboard supports midi.

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About Revo/Aureon (and possibly some other Envy24HT cards) and music production:
1. No MIDI support of any kind (synth/ports)
2. No GSIF support (and it's not planned)
3. ASIOv2 supported, but without DirectMonitoring

These cards are mainstream cards, so this is expected.

any idea how the audigy2 fares for midi production?  I'd imagine no gsif...

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About Revo/Aureon (and possibly some other Envy24HT cards) and music production:
1. No MIDI support of any kind (synth/ports)
2. No GSIF support (and it's not planned)
3. ASIOv2 supported, but without DirectMonitoring

These cards are mainstream cards, so this is expected.

any idea how the audigy2 fares for midi production?  I'd imagine no gsif...

Well, Audigy2 has excellent MIDI support (probably same as Audigy) - SoundFonts, 2 synths, 2 Uarts etc.
No GSIF in CL drivers - but it's possible, kX might have it one day...

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Reply #12 –
>ac97 motherboard supports midi.

If you already have a midi port you don't need 2  you can run 2 sound cards together.

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Well, Audigy2 has excellent MIDI support (probably same as Audigy) - SoundFonts, 2 synths, 2 Uarts etc.
No GSIF in CL drivers - but it's possible, kX might have it one day...

How about ASIO support?

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Well, Audigy2 has excellent MIDI support (probably same as Audigy) - SoundFonts, 2 synths, 2 Uarts etc.
No GSIF in CL drivers - but it's possible, kX might have it one day...

How about ASIO support?

Offically:
Audigy2 Player/Platinum - supports ASIOv2-based hosts, but only at 16/48.
Audigy2 Platinum eX - supports ASIOv2, up to 24/96.

I don't know what are hardware limits here, and what are only driver limits...

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Reply #15 –
I would like to add that eventhough the Revo does not support midi you will still have the MS software synth or you can always get yamaha's software synth.
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Reply #16 –
Hmm, well thanks for the replies..  I decided to get a cheap audigy2 though.  Sounds ok so far, and lowered my latency in sonar from 120ms to 10ms, though I find the ASIO driver very glitchy (using Kernel Streaming right now).  I might try the kX drivers to attempt to get 2ms ASIO working, but honestly I'm such a terrible keyboard player that 10ms is plenty good

As for sound quality, all I can say is it doesn't sound any worse than my old sblive 5.1.  but I'm using spdif to my yamaha amp so I'd think the difference would be very small anyway.
 

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I would like to add that eventhough the Revo does not support midi you will still have the MS software synth or you can always get yamaha's software synth.

The MIDI being discussed in this context is in reference to audio hardware interfaces, not what you're thinking off.  Stuff like controlling hardware synthesizers, sequencers, etc.