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media players with cue support (Windows 7)

Which media players have full cue support?
Meaning: you can add 1 single long MP3 file to the database, and with the use of a cue sheet you can see the individual tracks in the library. You can also search in your library to these tracks. So the media player must handle MP3's with cue sheets just like normal tracks on a album.

Foobar2000 does this, which players on the windows platform have this too?

thanks in advance

media players with cue support (Windows 7)

Reply #1 –
foobar2000 is native to windows, meaning it is created for windows.  in other words, use foobar2000.

media players with cue support (Windows 7)

Reply #2 –
Quote from: greensdrive on
foobar2000 is native to windows, meaning it is created for windows.  in other words, use foobar2000.


but are there alternatives with full cue support?

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Reply #3 –
JRiver media center
TheWellTemperedComputer.com

media players with cue support (Windows 7)

Reply #4 –
Quote from: Roseval on
JRiver media center


thank you.. unfortunalty the function with cue support is a paid version, and I want to be sure it works good.

So any suggestions for free music players with full cue support?

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Reply #5 –
Amarok and Clementine work under Windows.

media players with cue support (Windows 7)

Reply #7 –
Quote from: Rodrigo87 on
So any suggestions for free music players with full cue support?


Is there any reason you don't want to use foobar2000? It's a great, free player

media players with cue support (Windows 7)

Reply #8 –
winamp with the cue player plugin treats "1 big audio file + cue" as separate tracks on playback, don't know about the database functionality though as I never used that in winamp.

media players with cue support (Windows 7)

Reply #9 –
Last time I checked, foobar2000 didn't properly handle cue files with both 00 and 01 indices.  It would skip the 00 indices and go directly to the 01 indices.  I can't remember if the cue file was for one large audio track or multiple audio tracks in one cue file.  I didn't spend a lot of time on it so if there's a workaround I'm ready to hear it.

media players with cue support (Windows 7)

Reply #10 –
Quote from: drumliner on
winamp with the cue player plugin treats "1 big audio file + cue" as separate tracks on playback, don't know about the database functionality though as I never used that in winamp.


Last time I checked, it only played the files in the playlist.. it didnt showed up in your library as individual tracks.


Quote from: probedb on
Quote from: Rodrigo87 on
So any suggestions for free music players with full cue support?


Is there any reason you don't want to use foobar2000? It's a great, free player


I don't really like the interface, and I know you can change alot, but thats the point: I dont want to put that much effort in making an ultimate interface for me.
The default and columns UI of foobar are somewhat to simplistics regarding the looks, sorry.

media players with cue support (Windows 7)

Reply #11 –
Quote from: gottogo99 on
Last time I checked, foobar2000 didn't properly handle cue files with both 00 and 01 indices.  It would skip the 00 indices and go directly to the 01 indices.  I can't remember if the cue file was for one large audio track or multiple audio tracks in one cue file.  I didn't spend a lot of time on it so if there's a workaround I'm ready to hear it.

Interesting. I think that behaviour might have been changed. I was trying to use it here: http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....showtopic=92474 without realising where I got the idea from.

media players with cue support (Windows 7)

Reply #12 –
Quote from: southisup on
Interesting. I think that behaviour might have been changed.

I think gottogo99 is talking about HTOA which foobar2000 still skips in 1.1.10 (not tested with 1.1.11 but shouldn't be different there)
In any subsequent track fb2k plays INDEX00 though.

media players with cue support (Windows 7)

Reply #13 –
Quote from: soulsearchingsun on
I think gottogo99 is talking about HTOA which foobar2000 still skips in 1.1.10 (not tested with 1.1.11 but shouldn't be different there)
In any subsequent track fb2k plays INDEX00 though.

Re-reading gottogo99's post, I think you're right, & that the CUE in question must have been for just one track. In which case, the workaround I would try would be to add a new first track, a fraction of a second long. The track for which gottogo99 wants to hear INDEX 00 would then be track 2, & foobar would play it.

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Reply #14 –
gottogo99 seems to be referring to INDEX 00s in general, not just that of the first track.

Regardless, any player should go directly to INDEX 01 when the corresponding track is started as normal. That’s what a hardware player would do. That’s what all software players I’ve seen do. INDEX 00s are for the count-up-to-zero-at-end-of-previous-track thing. Unless some player adds a feature to access specific non-01 INDEXes, this is completely intentional, sensible, and standard behaviour.

media players with cue support (Windows 7)

Reply #15 –
Quote from: southisup on
Re-reading gottogo99's post, I think you're right, & that the CUE in question must have been for just one track. In which case, the workaround I would try would be to add a new first track, a fraction of a second long. The track for which gottogo99 wants to hear INDEX 00 would then be track 2, & foobar would play it.

It's even easier, you need to change INDEX00 to INDEX01 for the first track and make INDEX01 (the first proper track) the first index of track 2. All following tracks' numbers need to be increased by one. IIRC foobar doesn't like non-linear cuesheets so appending HTOA to the end doesn't work.

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Quote from: db1989 on
INDEX 00s are for the count-up-to-zero-at-end-of-previous-track thing.

Yes, precisely count-up-to-zero-between-tracks. And foobar simply appends the gap to the previous track. That's something I'm not too happy with. But I haven't seen an implementation that's comparable to CD player behavoir.

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Reply #16 –
Do you mean you’d like a count-up? Because a CD player doesn’t let one skip directly to the INDEX 00 either, so the lack of a cosmetic count-up is the only difference I can think of. Anyway, I think the behaviour of beginning a track at its INDEX 01 is what gottogo99 isn’t happy with, in which case it’s nothing specific to foobar2000—or at all wrong, IMHO.

(Unless the implication of “skip the 00 indices” is that foobar2000, when playing from one track into the next, will completely omit the intervening INDEX 00. That would be bad! But I highly doubt that is the case.)

media players with cue support (Windows 7)

Reply #17 –
Quote from: db1989 on
Do you mean you’d like a count-up?

No. I'd like foobar to leave out gaps if tracks are not played in subsequent order*, like CD players do (afaik) if you program them. Gaps belong to neither track, they're just the 'glue' between two tracks. Often on live albums, the next track is announced during the gap, or it could be applause.

*This should be challenging to implement if a player wasn't designed around this behavoir, so I'm not hoping. In 99.5% it's no problem, in 0.5% its only mildly annoying, so it's far down on my personal wishlist.

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Reply #18 –
Oh, I see! That’s a fair point, then.

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Reply #19 –
I see my comment is receiving a little attention.  My problem is as follows, and it's still an issue with 1.1.11.

I made a live recording and split it into individual tracks with a cue sheet.  Each song begins with the singer's introduction at index 00.  The music begins at index 01.  If I load the cue sheet in fb2k, it never plays any of the music between index 00 and index 01, for any track.  (The first song isn't indexed with 00 and 01 so not sure how that would be handled.)  Fb2k plays song 1, skips the intro to song 2, plays song 2, skips the intro to song 3, plays song 3, etc.

When I burn the cue sheet to an audio CD with Imgburn, it plays perfectly on a CD player with the index 00's counting up to the next song.  When I play the burned audio CD in fb2k, it appends the index 00 to the end of the previous song, with no countup.  I would prefer that fb2k worked the same way as a CD player for both the cue sheet and the burned CD.  Is this the way it's supposed to work?  Is my cue sheet too unusual for fb2k?
 

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Reply #20 –
Mod: This is getting somewhat OT, feel free to split the topic.
Quote from: gottogo99 on
I made a live recording and split it into individual tracks with a cue sheet.  Each song begins with the singer's introduction at index 00.  The music begins at index 01.  If I load the cue sheet in fb2k, it never plays any of the music between index 00 and index 01, for any track.
This shouldn't happen. Foobar should append the index 00 part to the previous song, to if you listen to this album continously you should always hear the song following its introduction.
You said you split the recording into tracks, but you didn't split the file, did you?

Quote from: gottogo99 on
When I play the burned audio CD in fb2k, it appends the index 00 to the end of the previous song, with no countup.  I would prefer that fb2k worked the same way as a CD player for both the cue sheet and the burned CD.
That's what I stated previously. Think of it this way: How should the player display this in the playlist? You can't have negative durations, that wouldn't make sense. You can't add the gap to either the track before or the track after the gap. Have an extra playlist entry for the gap? Fine, but it should disappear if two tracks are not subsequent tracks on a CD. The same for shuffle mode. The playlist duration would change depending on how you play it. Elements would disappear magically. I think the CD is too much dead already that anyone would seriously consider implementing this. Plus, most users would be seriously irritated by this behavoir.

Quote from: gottogo99 on
Is my cue sheet too unusual for fb2k?
You could post it, then we could see if there's something wrong with it.