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Winamp 2 Critical Updates

www.blorp.com/~peter/wa2.htm


That site that Peter did is down? I was wondering where else i can find those ciritcal updates he posted on that site for wa2

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Winamp is obsolete.

Enh, not quite. There are still several things foobar 2000 can't do (such as play videos...), and Winamp 2.81 will reside on many systems for a while yet. At least until Winamp 2.82 comes out. 

  Seriously? Well, much as I like foobar 2000, until it reaches a "stable" SDK/architecture  - so that every third revision doesn't break existing plugins - I won't be able to completely give up on other players. I do use foobar 2000 every day, but at this point I am also still using Winamp 2.81 every other day, at least.

    - M.

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I use both.

FB2k for playing songs

winamp for playlists and longer sets.

also many of my friends like wa2. So i wouldl ike to give them teh best possible wa2 aviable

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Winamp is obsolete. Just about everyone here has moved on to Peter's new player Foobar2000. http://foobar2000.hydrogenaudio.org

Far from it, there is still a huge amount of features/plugins that make winamp much more attractive & far from obsolete. I do however use foobar when I want background music when I'm playing games (doesn't effect my PC's performance).

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Winamp 2.81 will reside on many systems for a while yet.

Of course. There are still many who has not been enlightened about the existance of the great Foobar2000. That's where we come in

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Foobar2000 is a hype. 
At the moment I only use Winamp 2 for audio playback.

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I won't touch FB2K until it supports ID3v2 tags (nearly all of the 3000+ songs on my computer have them) and until the interface is much more polished.

I love having Winamp going with the plugin that gives me hotkeys that I can always use for control even when it's running in the background.

Oh, and screw Winamp for video playback 

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Foobar2000 will never support id3v2 simply because id3v2 is evil, and it's far better that way.
Foobar2000 supports global hotkeys natively.

And the interface is polished. Nice, clean, and minimalistic. You're just not used to it.

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Foobar is jesus.

Winamp 2.8 is god.

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Foobar2000 will never support id3v2 simply because id3v2 is evil, and it's far better that way.

That's too bad, because that means a lot of people (not only newbies) will never use it.

I understand why ID3v2 is supposed to be evil, but personally I have never had a problem with any files I've tagged with v2 nor any files that I've "acquired" that have had v2 tags.

Until a different tagging standard (that supports long field names) is established for MP3, people will keep using ID3v2 and expect software to support it.

Rob

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Oh, and screw Winamp for video playback 

Oh, really? I can only assume you are talking about Winamp 3... in which case I fully understand the sentiment. But if you meant Winamp 2.81, you might want to try the VID4WA plugin.

  As for the general ranting against ID3v2, it is not evil. It was botched, in that it allowed more options than you could safely trust a bunch of music-traders (and potential hackers/whackers/l337 virus authors) to handle with any sense of responsibility. Do I believe foobar 2000 would be better with ID3v2 support? Sure... for limited fields, such as the standard set you could get with OGG/FLAC tags. And if it's ever implemented - not likely, I know - it should also be optional, and disabled by default.

  But for the record, I also consider any tagging format which appends data to the end of an audio file (yes, that includes both ID3v1 and APEv2 tags!) to be wasteful. It slows down the search for info (especially from hardware devices) and doesn't make any freakin' sense. But if I went on about my dislike for such tagging formats as frequently as some folks rant against ID3v2, you'd never read anything else on this forum. <rant mode=off>

    - M.

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Foobar is jesus.

Winamp 2.8 is god.

SNYder, your the best  .

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Will be running both foobar and WinAMP on my system, that way I get the best of both worlds!  Just enjoy the ride and enjoy the quality software from these talented people.
-=MusePack... Living Audio Compression=-

Honda - The Power of Dreams

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Winamp is obsolete. Just about everyone here has moved on to Peter's new player Foobar2000. http://foobar2000.hydrogenaudio.org

Winamp is obsolete?  That term means "no longer in general use" and clearly doesn't apply to Winamp.

Oh, my dictionary says it also means "out of date."  That doesn't apply either.

Maybe you meant that you (personally) no longer use it?  Now that would be making more sense...

Cheers,

fewtch

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Foobar2000 will never support id3v2 simply because id3v2 is evil, and it's far better that way.
Foobar2000 supports global hotkeys natively.

And the interface is polished. Nice, clean, and minimalistic. You're just not used to it.

Polished?  You call it polished when I close the app (Win9x version) and an outline of the Foobar2000 window remains painted on the screen, until other apps cover it up (erasing it)?

I'd say it's a prebeta software, and the word "polished" is laughable when applied... please, use some common sense. 

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Well...since the Win9x version is a "gift" (not that foobar2000 for NT isn't ) you can't expect it to be as good as the NT version. [span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'](also, instead of instantly blaming fb2k for it, thought about blaming Win9x, display drivers, other apps, whatever? i doubt this ever happened with to anyone with Win2K or XP by the way)[/span]
I don't think the word "polished" is laughable at all. He probably meant it has a clean and non confusing design, so things will be added, but i wouldn't say it's bad at all.

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I do however use foobar when I want background music when I'm playing games (doesn't effect my PC's performance).


Memory-wise it is better but certainly not CPU-wise. On a slower computer, a PII350 with 192MB of ram running on Windows 2000, Winamp uses less than 1% CPU when it is playing a Vorbis file and is minimised. Foobar2000, on the other hand, playing the very same file and minimised results in CPU usage anywhere from 8% to 15%. Using Foobar2000 purely because of performance isn't a good reason to me...

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Foobar2000 is a hype.  
At the moment I only use Winamp 2 for audio playback.

Its good hype though because it has a lot of people improving it, adding features etc.

But in terms of ease of use, it has a long way to go before it competes well with winamp 2.

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You call it polished when I close the app (Win9x version) and an outline of the Foobar2000 window remains painted on the screen, until other apps cover it up (erasing it)?

FB2K isn't the only program I've seen that doesn't properly refresh the screen after closing the application, of course the annoying action of right clicking a blank area of the desktop and selecting refresh does the trick. The taskbar open program boxes don't disappear either, yet clicking them makes them instantly disappear. Both are something I see from time to time on rare occassions even with age-old time-test programs such as ScanDisk, etc.

I think it's more of a limitation, or the way particular programs are built that are not truely 100% Win9x compatible, or that Win9x is just so damn outdated and has unresolved - never ever to be resolved bugs. What I'm thinking is we can't fully blast away at FB2K not seemlessly exiting fully since the Win9x OS is probably the culprit.

Now we know and fully understand why PP didn't want to 'F' around with making a Win9x version because of all the 'BS' envolved with making it work just right, and to please those of us who are just too damn stubborn and/or cheap to go buy Win2K or WinXP (that includes me).

Needless to say I won't be using FB2K on my Win98 system until the current unfortunately annoying desktop refresh and taskbar problems are resolved.

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foobar don't do this on my machine, running WinME! Anyways its just a cosmetic bug nuthin major just enjoy the cool tunes...
-=MusePack... Living Audio Compression=-

Honda - The Power of Dreams
 

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Change log says a hack was added to fix or work around the problem. You could also click the desktop to focus it and press F5. Also works as refresh in many web browsers and/or standard file dialogs.