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What am I supposed to do with all my CDs?

Reply #25 –
^Oh right. When you said the law had changed then I read that, I thought it had changed for the worse. In that case, I take it all back. Well done lawmakers for reverting those insane laws back to sanity.

What am I supposed to do with all my CDs?

Reply #26 –
Too bad you didn't buy all the CDs from Amazon. They give you the MP3 files for free, and they're stored in the cloud.

What am I supposed to do with all my CDs?

Reply #27 –
Quote from: marc2003 on
^i did mention that the law was changed last year. it's just that website i found hadn't been updated. hopefully this will make you feel a little better. 

http://news.bis.gov.uk/Press-Releases/Cons...edom-68542.aspx

but yes, until last year we were all filthy criminals for ripping our cds. perhaps we should turn ourselves in for our past "crimes"? 


The law regarding ripping has not yet changed in the UK. In Dec. 2012, the government announced its intent to make some changes, including a private copying exception. The press pounced on it as "ripping CDs & DVDs is now legal in the UK." But the legislation required to implement the changes has not yet passed: http://services.parliament.uk/bills/2013-1...alproperty.html And there's no exception for breaking DRM, so ripping most commercial DVDs will remain illegal.

It's surprising to me that the EU doesn't have a first-sale/exhaustion doctrine like we have in the U.S.; our Supreme Court even just recently intensified it in the Kirtsaeng case (saying it's OK to dump unused textbooks in the U.S. market after buying them at retail overseas; they're still considered secondhand). Whether it's OK to keep a digital copy of something you're selling, though, hasn't been tested in court, as far as I know.

What am I supposed to do with all my CDs?

Reply #28 –
oh ****. so if anyone from the UK posts here asking about ripping CDs, we shall have to refer them to TOS9. 

What am I supposed to do with all my CDs?

Reply #29 –
You won't sell them or give them away and you don't want them. If this worked for the iPhone it should work with your CDs.

http://willitblend.com/

I buy used CDs off eBay. I don't know if they've been ripped and I don't think it's my duty to enforce a law which may not have been broken. I rip them to 320dbit MP3s for my car but I keep the discs.

G²

What am I supposed to do with all my CDs?

Reply #30 –
Quote from: jkauff on
Too bad you didn't buy all the CDs from Amazon. They give you the MP3 files for free, and they're stored in the cloud.

Presumably those "free mp3s" Amazon gives you with a CD purchase, they are not legally considered a separate property to the CD, so you can retain them if you re-sell the CD?

Also, forgive my ignorance but what does "stored in the cloud" mean? I haven't used Amazon for a while.

What am I supposed to do with all my CDs?

Reply #31 –
Quote from: Glenn Gundlach on
You won't sell them or give them away and you don't want them. If this worked for the iPhone it should work with your CDs.

http://willitblend.com/

I buy used CDs off eBay. I don't know if they've been ripped and I don't think it's my duty to enforce a law which may not have been broken. I rip them to 320dbit MP3s for my car but I keep the discs.

G²


Been there done that. This, somehow, goes to show how unpractical to be enforced, and dislocated from our present world, said laws are.

I can't help thinking of an old-format, "MP3-is-evil" recording industry advocate as a 21st-century luddite of sorts.
Listen to the music, not the media it's on.
União e reconstrução

What am I supposed to do with all my CDs?

Reply #33 –
Quote from: Grand Dizzy on
Also, forgive my ignorance but what does "stored in the cloud" mean? I haven't used Amazon for a while.


amazon have a cloud player (it is branded as such). you should find it easily enough if you check the side navigation bar on their site while logged in. they've done their best to give access to mp3 copies of all CDs you've bought over the years. obviously it doesn't apply to anything you buy from the marketplace.

it's worth a look even if you've ripped all your own CDs because sometimes the mp3 albums will have bonus tracks that you won't have.

What am I supposed to do with all my CDs?

Reply #34 –
Quote from: Grand Dizzy on
Also, forgive my ignorance but what does "stored in the cloud" mean? I haven't used Amazon for a while.

If you purchase an mp3 from Amazon, you may download it to play it, but you may also play it directly from their server on any of several (I believe it is five) devices that you have registered to do so.

What am I supposed to do with all my CDs?

Reply #35 –
The interesting legal aspect of what Amazon has done is that they give you the MP3s whether or not you still own the CD, or if you ever owned it. You get the files even if the purchase was a gift for someone.

What am I supposed to do with all my CDs?

Reply #36 –
Quote from: jkauff on
The interesting legal aspect of what Amazon has done is that they give you the MP3s whether or not you still own the CD, or if you ever owned it. You get the files even if the purchase was a gift for someone.


That's actually a pretty good point. It *would be* a legal precedent if some court was actually going to execute a warrant on somebody's HDD under the suspicion that they possess duplicate files of music they no longer own.

I'm sorry but I find it incredible that there's even a few people who wring their hands over "legal" or "moral" implications of retaining copies of physical media they no longer possess. Half the point of backing up your media is that it's done because you may lose it.
The Loudness War is over. Now it's a hopeless occupation.

What am I supposed to do with all my CDs?

Reply #37 –
Quote from: jkauff on
The interesting legal aspect of what Amazon has done is that they give you the MP3s whether or not you still own the CD, or if you ever owned it. You get the files even if the purchase was a gift for someone.


Indeed. I certainly don't own any Janet Jackson or Shakira albums

What am I supposed to do with all my CDs?

Reply #38 –
Quote from: Engelsstaub on
Quote from: jkauff on
The interesting legal aspect of what Amazon has done is that they give you the MP3s whether or not you still own the CD, or if you ever owned it. You get the files even if the purchase was a gift for someone.


That's actually a pretty good point. It *would be* a legal precedent if some court was actually going to execute a warrant on somebody's HDD under the suspicion that they possess duplicate files of music they no longer own.

I'm sorry but I find it incredible that there's even a few people who wring their hands over "legal" or "moral" implications of retaining copies of physical media they no longer possess. Half the point of backing up your media is that it's done because you may lose it.

Amazon would probably invoke the First Sale doctrine if challenged--in essence, they're exercising your First Sale rights on your behalf whether you want them to or not. But who's going to challenge them? Not Apple, whose iTunes Match service stands on similar ground, and the music companies aren't about to sue their best customer.
 

What am I supposed to do with all my CDs?

Reply #39 –
Quote from: jkauff on
The interesting legal aspect of what Amazon has done is that they give you the MP3s whether or not you still own the CD, or if you ever owned it. You get the files even if the purchase was a gift for someone.

Well, they give you some of the files. Depending on the licensing deal they have, the availability of all songs from a given CD purchase is not guaranteed. I only got MP3s for about half the CDs I've bought. I anticipate they also do like iTunes and revoke the downloadability of songs they no longer have a deal for (hasn't happened to me yet, though). Oh, and what you do get is "close enough" copies from the latest remaster...which has an unexpected upside: I got some bonus tracks I wasn't supposed to. Can't say I wonder what the legal ramifications are of that.