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Looking for a program to view full Lame Tag

Hello guys,

I would like to have a program that allows me to view the entire Lame Tag (Lame Header). Does someone know a program for that purpose? Gabriel (Lame Developer) said that it would be pretty easy to program one...

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Looking for a program to view full Lame Tag

Reply #1 –
Encspot can display LAME headers for files encoded with LAME 3.90 and later I think.
However, it's no longer available, unless someone sends it to u...
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Looking for a program to view full Lame Tag

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Encspot can display LAME headers for files encoded with LAME 3.90 and later I think.
However, it's no longer available, unless someone sends it to u...


What's in the LAME tag? Does it show the command line used to create an mp3?

I've checked some of my LAME encoded mp3's (v 3.90.2 & 3.92) and one of them have a LAME tag. Could this be because MP3Gain is destroying the tag?

Cheers,
-dave

Looking for a program to view full Lame Tag

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I would like to have a program that allows me to view the entire Lame Tag (Lame Header). Does someone know a program for that purpose?

Frontah can display the Lame tag, right-click and select "View / Edit Tags..." then select "File info". It will also show preset used (but only if mp3 was encoded with lame >= 3.93).

Looking for a program to view full Lame Tag

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I would like to have a program that allows me to view the entire Lame Tag (Lame Header). Does someone know a program for that purpose?

Frontah can display the Lame tag, right-click and select "View / Edit Tags..." then select "File info". It will also show preset used (but only if mp3 was encoded with lame >= 3.93).

I'll check it out, thanks.

It would be nice if there was a way to see the preset used with 3.90.2 / 3.92. Is this possible, anyone?

Cheers,
-dave

Looking for a program to view full Lame Tag

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I've checked some of my LAME encoded mp3's (v 3.90.2 & 3.92) and one of them have a LAME tag. Could this be because MP3Gain is destroying the tag?

I don't think mp3gain has got this problem, it's well tested. But there might be mp3-tools out there that delete the Lame-Tag accidently. An example is an earlier version of mp3trim, but this flaw has been fixed a long time ago, it's not present anymore in the latest versions.
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It would be nice if there was a way to see the preset used with 3.90.2 / 3.92. Is this possible, anyone?

Unfortunetely it's not possible, because in that Lame-Tag revisions the used preset wasn't stored in it. But as madah said it's changed in newer (>=3.93) versions.
Those who desire to give up freedom in order to gain security, will not have, nor do they deserve, either one! (Benjamin Franklin)

Looking for a program to view full Lame Tag

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I've checked some of my LAME encoded mp3's (v 3.90.2 & 3.92) and one of them have a LAME tag. Could this be because MP3Gain is destroying the tag?

I don't think mp3gain has got this problem, it's well tested. But there might be mp3-tools out there that delete the Lame-Tag accidently. An example is an earlier version of mp3trim, but this flaw has been fixed a long time ago, it's not present anymore in the latest versions.
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It would be nice if there was a way to see the preset used with 3.90.2 / 3.92. Is this possible, anyone?

Unfortunetely it's not possible, because in that Lame-Tag revisions the used preset wasn't stored in it. But as madah said it's changed in newer (>=3.93) versions.

The only program I use on my mp3's after encoding are MP3Gain and Winamp (if I make any ID3 tag changes). However it seems that none of the MP3's I've encoded have a lame tag according to Encspot, so it shouldn't be Winamp causing the problem.

Maybe Encspot just doesn't support them properly. It's a discontinued program isn't it?

-dave

Looking for a program to view full Lame Tag

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The only program I use on my mp3's after encoding are MP3Gain and Winamp (if I make any ID3 tag changes). However it seems that none of the MP3's I've encoded have a lame tag according to Encspot, so it shouldn't be Winamp causing the problem.
Maybe Encspot just doesn't support them properly. It's a discontinued program isn't it?

Weird! I also use mp3gain on all my files, some of them were encoded with 3.92 but most of them with Dibrom's 3.90.2 compile (--alt-preset standard used with both versions). EncSpot claims that all the files have a Lame Tag, even when i've processed them with mp3gain and even when i changed something in the id3-Tag with Winamp.
You must do something wrong      ... just kidding,  but here it works, definitely.

P.S. Yes, IMHO you're right about the rumour EncSpot not being continued anymore. 

EDIT: Spelling issues (as always  )
Those who desire to give up freedom in order to gain security, will not have, nor do they deserve, either one! (Benjamin Franklin)

Looking for a program to view full Lame Tag

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I'm using Encspot 2.0 build 817.

Perhaps this is not the latest and doesn't support lame tags properly?

Looking for a program to view full Lame Tag

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I'm using Encspot 2.0 build 817...

That can't be the problem, i'm using the same version.
In order to find the evil devil who is responsible for that you could try to encode another file with the unbeatable team EAC and LAME (no flamewar here please), check it with EncSpot then. Then use mp3gain on that file and check it again with encSpot.
Those who desire to give up freedom in order to gain security, will not have, nor do they deserve, either one! (Benjamin Franklin)

Looking for a program to view full Lame Tag

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I'm using Encspot 2.0 build 817...

That can't be the problem, i'm using the same version.
In order to find the evil devil who is responsible for that you could try to encode another file with the unbeatable team EAC and LAME (no flamewar here please), check it with EncSpot then. Then use mp3gain on that file and check it again with encSpot.

Of course I already use EAC & Lame

I'm beginning to think that maybe TagScanner caused this. I would hope not since it should only affect the ID3 tags, but it's the only thing I can think of right now.

-dave

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@yourtallness
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Encspot can display LAME headers for files encoded with LAME 3.90 and later I think.

I've EncSpot Pro and it does display the Lame Tag, but it doesn't show every information that is stored in there. This is why I was asking.

@dgover2
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What's in the LAME tag? Does it show the command line used to create an mp3?

It tells you about several options that have been used to encode the file. It also tells you the source (where the mp3 was created from) and this is the information I'm interested in, because I want to know if some files have been transcoded...

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I've checked some of my LAME encoded mp3's (v 3.90.2 & 3.92) and one of them have a LAME tag. Could this be because MP3Gain is destroying the tag?

Some files do have a Lame Tag and some not, you need to turn this feature on in order to be able to view it. I'm using Cdex for all my encoding purposes and it includes the Lame Tag...however there is an old release of Cdex and it used Lame 3.92 as well but didn't store that information...so according to your second question, no mp3 Gain doesn't destroy the Lame Tag neither does mp3 Trim (unless you want it to).

@madah
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Frontah can display the Lame tag, right-click and select "View / Edit Tags..." then select "File info". It will also show preset used (but only if mp3 was encoded with lame >= 3.93).

Ok, thanks...I goanna check that program out...it hopefully provides EVERY single information...I'll keep you posted .

@all
You should find your answers somewhere in this post...
--alt-presets are there for a reason! These other switches DO NOT work better than it, trust me on this.
LAME + Joint Stereo doesn't destroy 'Stereo'

Looking for a program to view full Lame Tag

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I would like to have a program that allows me to view the entire Lame Tag (Lame Header). Does someone know a program for that purpose?

Frontah can display the Lame tag, right-click and select "View / Edit Tags..." then select "File info". It will also show preset used (but only if mp3 was encoded with lame >= 3.93).

that program also doesn't show every information that has been put in the mp3 file...it is similar to the information EncSpot provides.

@all
I think there is some sort of bug in EncSpot. Sometimes it says that there is a Lame Tag but then it doesn't display it...so not sure how that happens.
--alt-presets are there for a reason! These other switches DO NOT work better than it, trust me on this.
LAME + Joint Stereo doesn't destroy 'Stereo'

Looking for a program to view full Lame Tag

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that program also doesn't show every information that has been put in the mp3 file...it is similar to the information EncSpot provides.

It should display all of the lame tag... (lame-tag-specs)

What more information are you looking for? Perhaps I can implement it in my next version
 

Looking for a program to view full Lame Tag

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that program also doesn't show every information that has been put in the mp3 file...it is similar to the information EncSpot provides.

It should display all of the lame tag... (lame-tag-specs)

What more information are you looking for? Perhaps I can implement it in my next version

well, according to Gabriel (the Lame developer) and this thread: http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....=ST&f=15&t=6474 there are also information stored that tell you about the source that has been used for encoding.
--alt-presets are there for a reason! These other switches DO NOT work better than it, trust me on this.
LAME + Joint Stereo doesn't destroy 'Stereo'