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Topic: [TOS #8] Ogg Vorbis 1.1 Rc1 (Read 2692 times) previous topic - next topic
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[TOS #8] Ogg Vorbis 1.1 Rc1

Hi.
I+m a music lover from Sweden who not so long ago discovered ogg. I have listened very much to oggfiles compared with mp3:s and in my opinion ogg is way above in sheer quality.
But not without some minor flaws.
And this is why i write this post.
I have tested and do my own ripping with eac (in secure mode) and different Ogg-versions Lib-Vorbis 1.0.1 (Official stable release), aoTuVb2 (the aouymi-tuned/trimmed version) and ogg1.1Rc1.
Here is my comments on them.
But first some short words about the music. I like Charlie Parker and Miles Davis and some other older jazz, so the rippings are done mostly of this kind of music.
Comments on them:
lib-vorbis ogg enc 1.0.1 stable: Sounds good but have some irritating flaws, especially
                                              on some Charlie Parker-rips that seems to get the
                                              stereoimage affected by some strange
                                              effects showings as a little cluttering/blurring
                                              of instrumentplacing in the stereoimage

ogg 1.1Rc1: Sounds better and has a much more "true" stereo imagereproduction
                  on above mentioned kind of music. (Think the reason for this is the
                  implementation of the aoTuV-tunings)

aoTuV2: Well, Can just say one thing about this one :-))))))
            For a man with my musictaste it gives by far the most accurate sound
            and quality i have ever heard from a compressed sound file.
            the official 1.1Rc1 closes the gap a little bit, but my own ears tells me
            that this one still is better


P.s. I have done the rips i the qualitysettings mode: Quality 7


 

[TOS #8] Ogg Vorbis 1.1 Rc1

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Was it a blind-listening test? Can you ABX files encoded with different Vorbis encoders?

http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....showtopic=16295

Oh... by the way: Welcome
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Hi and thanks for the welcome :-)
No´It wasn´t a scientifical blind test and I know that oggversions coded which files.
II have let my ears guide me and sittin down concentratin hard and listenin carefully.
I noticed as wrote on some kind of music that ogg 1..0.1 get problems on some music.
So i have concentratred the listening around that kind of music :-)
And well, my own ears in a completely subjective non scientifical way tells me that ogg is far better than mp 3 and that´s enougn for me :-)
But  after i have noticed theese things i also tried to do another thing.
I ripped down a piece of Charlie Parker to wave-format with eac, Then i ripped that wavefile to mp3 with Lame (both 3.96 and 3.97a3) and with the three oggversions i have listened to
Then I opened all files in a waveeditor to see how true to the original wavfile the ripped files was.
One thing get immediately obivious, all three oggrips was very close to the originalwavefile so close it´s hard to tell which is which.
But not so with the mp3`s they differed quit a lot from the original uncompressed wave. One look at the curves and you see the mp3-encoding have cut off information
that affects the sound quality much more than with ogg.
Settings used for this: Ogg Q7
                                Lame mp3  --preset standard