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Help: Replaygain is not working?

2004-05-30 18:03:52

I swear to god that I searched and searched!

How can I know if replaygain is working and what is the adjustment that is being made, if any?

Please don't give me the "listen to it" answer. I have listened and I don't think it is adjusting at all, thus the question.

More info:

- The x.xxdB in the status bar only reads 0.00db
- I have sucessfully scanned my tracks and I can check their realgain values, they
are there.
- I have selected replaygainmode to "use track gain".

This has to be a simple answer!

Help: Replaygain is not working?

Reply #1 – 2004-05-30 18:51:46

Right Click > Properties - Will be displayed in the window on the right hand side

You could also code it into your playlist (or status)

My RG Playlist config:

Code: [Select]

$rgb(0,128,255)
$if(%__replaygain_track_gain%,●,-)
$rgb(0,0,0)
$if(%__replaygain_album_gain%,●,-)

My status bar config:

Code: [Select]

//**************************************
// Replay Gain
//**************************************
//track gain
$puts(rpg,

$if(%__replaygain_track_gain%,
$get(spacer)
' TGain:'$cut(%__replaygain_track_gain%,5)'dB'

$if(%__replaygain_album_gain%,
$get(spacer)' AGain:'$cut(%__replaygain_album_gain%,5)'dB'
)
)
)

[i]

//**************************************
// progress %
// (checking total because of streaming)
//**************************************
$puts(progress_%,
$if(%_time_total_seconds%,
' ='$pad_right($num($muldiv(%_time_elapsed_seconds%,100,%_time_total_seconds%),3),4)'%'
)
)

$codec()
$if($or($stricmp($codec(),FLAC),
$stricmp($codec(),Monkey''s Audio),
$stricmp($codec(),Shorten)),
' ('$muldiv(%__bitrate%,100,1411%)'%)',
$if3(' ('%__bitrate_dynamic% kbps')',' ('%__bitrate% kbps')',)) [%__samplerate%Hz]' '
$channels()
$char(9)
$if(%_time_total%,[%_time_elapsed%]' / '[%_time_total%],[%_time_elapsed%])
$get(progress_%)
$char(9)[/i]
$get(rpg)

The 0.00Db in your status bar is the current volume - this does not change with Replay Gain.

Hope that helps. I didn't code the status bar, it was the iTunes "skin" for Columns UI - I forget who coded that.

Steve

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Reply #2 – 2004-05-30 19:31:00

Thanks for the answer but I still don't think you get my problem. I can check the replaygain values for the songs, I just want to have a way to check if that value is being used by fb2k.

How can I check that replaygain is enabled? What options should be on, etc.

But I definetely think I have everything fine, I just don't hear a difference. It *could be* that all my music has pretty much the same level but I really doubt it.

I want to be sure that replaygain is working and what value the player is using. I have tested by turning realgain on and off and listening to different tracks, the change is not discernible (it there is any).

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The 0.00Db in your status bar is the current volume - this does not change with Replay Gain.

What is it for? How does it change?

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Reply #3 – 2004-05-30 20:18:51

@Jaester: If you have replaygained your tracks, and enabled replaygain in preferences, it should be working. I played around with it a little now, and it seems you have to restart foobar for changes to take effect. See if that helps.

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I didn't code the status bar, it was the iTunes "skin" for Columns UI - I forget who coded that.

At least I know who coded the first half in the first place

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Reply #4 – 2004-05-30 20:22:24

How about manually editting the replaygain values to an extreme value? Right click a sample replaygained track, choose "Replaygain>Edit replaygain info (advanced)" and change the "replaygain_track_gain" to something like "-30 db" and see if the track is too quiet.

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Reply #5 – 2004-05-30 20:55:00

Or select a track with a relatively high gain value, like around -10dB. And play it with RG enabled and disabled. Trust me, you'll hear the volume difference.

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Reply #6 – 2004-06-18 00:50:12

Sorry to introduce a non productive message but that must be the funniest avatar I´ve ever seen Jaester!. Very, very good.

Does somebody know how to replaygain files with foobar2000 so the effect is similar to that of mp3gain?.
I mean in mp3gain you just select "89db" or any other desired value, then you choose album gain or track gain and that´s it.
OTOH in foobar2000 you have these four values.....what if I want a standard volume of say 89db (album gain or track gain), how do I do with foobar2000?.
I´m using MP4-AAC nowadays and foobar2000 seems the only way to replaygain this format.

Sorry for the stupid question, don´t have much time to research lately...no internet access at home

Thanks!

Edit: I´d like to know what´s that thing in the cat´s head. Palta maybe?.

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Reply #7 – 2004-06-18 01:06:38

AFAIK, there is no way to adjust the ReplayGain decibel level in foobar2000. ReplayGain's default level is 89db for both Track Gain and Album Gain. You can adjust the preamp on ReplayGained and non-ReplayGained in the Playback tab in the preferences.

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Reply #8 – 2004-06-18 09:54:08

AFAIK the ReplayGain-Values are stored as tags (replaygain_track_gain and replaygain_track_peak, same with album), so you could use masstagger and work with $sub()/$add(), $left() or $right(), sth. like that, to lower/higher the ReplayGain-values (AFAIK it gives the amount of gain to reach 89.00dB).
As there is no need for this (you have preamp, like wolffenstein told you before, and it does what you want) I would drop those thoughts.
In my opinion it's quite good to have a 89.00 dB standard-mark and I guess Peter didn't implemented any option to change this just to predefine (give) a standard, LAME also has 89.00dB as standard-mark.

edit: added a bit
btw: I totally missunderstood Megaman's problem
standard-volume is 89.00 dB, each track's volume is fit to this value, if you
want more you have to use Preamp
...huuu, I still need sleep

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Reply #9 – 2004-06-18 19:59:24

Turn the replaygain preamp all the way up. If you're using RG, you'll know it real fast

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Reply #10 – 2004-06-19 23:59:52

So there is no need to adjust the ReplayGain values (replaygain_track_gain, replaygain_track_peak, etc.) I guess....you just run a replaygain scan on the files and adjust the preamp to your desired value.
Let me know if I´m wrong.
BTW the option to apply a different preamp to not replaygained files is extremely useful .

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Reply #11 – 2004-06-20 05:18:15

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BTW the option to apply a different preamp to not replaygained files is extremely useful .

I put preamp for not RG'd files 7 dB's below that for RG'd files, as -7 dB's seems to be a kind of working average value for the difference here..... at least for me (and I have an extremely eclectic music collection)

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Reply #12 – 2004-06-22 17:17:04

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I put preamp for not RG'd files 7 dB's below that for RG'd files, as -7 dB's seems to be a kind of working average value for the difference here..... at least for me (and I have an extremely eclectic music collection)

I have adjusted it at 9dB below the preamp value for replaygained files. I listen to metal mostly, with many albums (specially new ones) ranging from 97dB to 99.9dB.
For old recordings (ex. Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple) it doesn´t work that well, but of course we have replaygain to solve that. God save David Robinson .

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Reply #13 – 2004-06-23 16:54:51

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God save David Robinson .

*chuckle*

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