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Reply #50
I made a vector version of Roberto's logo (it's not completely identical, but it's pretty close):
http://home.hccnet.nl/th.v.d.gronde/wavpacklogo.cdr
http://home.hccnet.nl/th.v.d.gronde/wavpacklogo.cgm
http://home.hccnet.nl/th.v.d.gronde/wavpacklogo.emf
This way you can resize and color it any way you'd like (using a vector drawing program if you have it, or otherwise ask for something specific and I or someone else will be able make the necessary changes).
A PNG preview is available here:
http://home.hccnet.nl/th.v.d.gronde/wavpacklogo.png

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Reply #51
That logo is a bit too simple IMO (actually I'm using the word "simple" as another expression for "ugly" ). I think smok3's logos are by far the best.

I suggest we start a poll and vote for the best one.

And please, please, don't give ANY decision power over the design/colors etc. to bryant! I respect the man so much, but I saw he updated his page again, and I'm really not sure if he isn't on crack. He must be colorblind at least, for sure...

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Reply #52
2nd try (before i read that it is allready decided, was fun anyway  ):

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and a vector version of them all (240k):
http://somestuff.org/images/galleries/wavp...wavpack_all.pdf
(editable pdf)

edit:
and the flash version (just for quick resizing tests - note: this is not to be used for production, use pdf instead):
http://somestuff.org/tmp/wavpack_flash.htm
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Reply #53
I strongly like the fourth from the top in smok3's post above mine. The right one of the small logos are pretty nice too.
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Reply #54
Wow smok3, the fourth logo is really really good! I like it better than anything else that has been suggested so far, it's so much more stylish.

The small icons at the bottom are a nice start as well, but I think the W and the P are too close to each other to remain distinguishable at significantly lower resolutions.. this could use some more work, but it's still head and shoulders above everything else so far 

Good job :thumbsup
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Reply #55
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W and the P are too close to each other to remain distinguishable at significantly lower resolutions
you could be right. (i did add a flash version just for resizing tests).
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Reply #56
ok, i put 'kids on crack' out of its misery. it's not on par with stuff in this thread, but not bad for 10 minutes in paint.

i'm trying to get him to leave it until the real change happens.

the ideas in this thread are great and i look forward to seeing something actually up on the site.

-greg (david's brother)

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Reply #57
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ok, i put 'kids on crack' out of its misery. it's not on par with stuff in this thread, but not bad for 10 minutes in paint.

i'm trying to get him to leave it until the real change happens.

the ideas in this thread are great and i look forward to seeing something actually up on the site.

-greg (david's brother)
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Getting better
When will the "real change" happen? Any time soon? I expect wavpack to have a decent dynamic (php?) page... you know... A News section, a download section, a docs section, aswell as one of the impressive logos created by HA.org members
Maybe you could have a look at [a href="http://phpnuke.org/]PHP-Nuke[/url] or PostNuke for your content management system, if you don't know php.
Keep up the good work!


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Reply #59
On my system the fine print in smaller versions of smok3's logos is unreadable, especially the version with shadows as used on the website.

On the website I recommend putting links first and the longer description after.
In FireFox the underlining of the topmost links (next to the logo) looks broken and is inconsistent.

rjamorim: a small but simple black and white logo is a good idea, I like the first one

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Reply #60
Try replacing the header table with this:
Code: [Select]
  <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" id="mainHeader" width="100%">
   <tr>
     <td align="left">
     <a href="http://ariakis.cjb.net/wavpack/#About">About</a><br />
     <br />
     <a href="http://ariakis.cjb.net/wavpack/#Features">Features</a><br />
     <br />
     <a href="http://ariakis.cjb.net/wavpack/#Software">Software</a></td>
     <td align="center">
     <img border="0" src="Images/02.gif" /></td>
     <td align="right">
     <a href="http://ariakis.cjb.net/wavpack/#Files">Files</a><br />
     <br />
     <a href="http://ariakis.cjb.net/wavpack/#Archive">Archive</a><br />
     <br />
     <a href="http://ariakis.cjb.net/wavpack/#Contact">Contact</a></td>
   </tr>
 </table>
To get the original formatting of the links back, add these two lines to the style sheet (this can be done differently btw, you could try changing the 'a' into a '*' and moving the font-size into that entry for example):
Code: [Select]
table#mainHeader { font-size: 9pt; }
table#mainHeader a { color: rgb(255,255,255); }

These changes will make this part of the site more conformant with XHTML and much more readable and maintable (unless you like messing with lots of font and span tags, checking whether they're nested correctly, etc.), not to mention smaller.

Also, I'd suggest doing yourself a favour by not using FrontPage. (X)HTML isn't very difficult to learn and creating a page by hand can save you a lot of trouble (=time).
There are some nice editors out there, that generate reasonable code, will leave your code alone if they can and provide a convenient way to access the underlying (X)HTML, but I haven't used one in years so I don't know what is recommended these days. Something like Emacs or anything else that has syntax highlighting will probably also work fine (depending on how easy you find it to work with the raw (X)HTML).
You may also like to run your page through a validator once in a while, especially if you want to use XHTML (it would mostly be a matter of properly closing tags to make it compliant, as far as I can see, as well as changing the DOCTYPE of course).

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Reply #61
It's funny the page has "XHTML 1.0" in the bottom, but claims itself it's HTML 4.01 and isn't even close to pass the validation tests for that ;-)

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Reply #62
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On my system the fine print in smaller versions of smok3's logos is unreadable, especially the version with shadows as used on the website.

true, the 1st version is better, but still the text is a bit smallish, also i would position a logo on the left side. anyway, if the logo will be actually used - a note to myself: fix that damn borken P.
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Reply #63
After a lot of delay, I came up with an updated page for WavPack, based mostly on Ariakis' code and design.

I'd like to invite people around here to comment and give suggestions for improvements.

http://www.rarewares.org/rja/wavpack/index.html

I'll get David to upload it to wavpack.com once it's finished.

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It's funny the page has "XHTML 1.0" in the bottom, but claims itself it's HTML 4.01 and isn't even close to pass the validation tests for that ;-)
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There are some nice editors out there, that generate reasonable code, will leave your code alone if they can and provide a convenient way to access the underlying (X)HTML, but I haven't used one in years so I don't know what is recommended these days.


I personally use Allaire Home Site 4.5, and I love it. No wysiwyg, of course. Pure text coding.

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Reply #64
Looks good and clean. One thing, it doesn't center in smaller browser windows (800x600) although it should fit (width: 760px).

To center page through css:

- Don't set left and right margins in body
- IE: body { text-align: center; }
- FF: .container { margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; }

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Reply #65
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I'd like to invite people around here to comment and give suggestions for improvements.

read some basic stuff on how to use fonts, how to use colors and about color theory, about layouts (ok, that should be enough for few months.), alternatively you could produce a simple, nodesign page - something like foobar without any aditional ui's.

p.s. what iam saying, if coding or audio is your main hobby or profesion, you better forget about design.

edit: oh, btw, it is not decent to just rip off someones color setup.
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Reply #66
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Looks good and clean. One thing, it doesn't center in smaller browser windows (800x600) although it should fit (width: 760px).

To center page through css:

- Don't set left and right margins in body
- IE: body { text-align: center; }
- FF: .container { margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; }
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Thank you very much for your advice, I'll fix that.

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I'd like to invite people around here to comment and give suggestions for improvements.

read some basic stuff on how to use fonts, how to use colors and about color theory, about layouts (ok, that should be enough for few months.), alternatively you could produce a simple, nodesign page - something like foobar without any aditional ui's.

p.s. what iam saying, if coding or audio is your main hobby or profesion, you better forget about design.


I agree, but that doesn't mean that audio-related pages must look bland


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edit: oh, btw, it is not decent to just rip off someones color setup.
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Well, I'm hopeless at picking up matching colours, so if you or someone else have a suggestion for another color scheme, please mention it here.

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Reply #67
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I'm hopeless at picking up matching colours
i use this lil js app a lot lately, but you will still need to understand the basis of color theory to actually use it:
http://wellstyled.com/tools/colorscheme2/index-en.html
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Reply #68
God, it's been months and there isn't a single one capable person to revamp the page? 

Roberto's version is allright but that logo is still as ugly as rpop in a bikini...

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Reply #69
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Roberto's version is allright but that logo is still as ugly as rpop in a bikini...
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Why don't YOU provide an awesome logo then, instead of distributing criticism as if it was going out of fashion, sir?

And you must have some weird tastes. I have never seen rpop on bikini, and I pray to God I never will... :B

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Reply #70
Creating logos is not my field of expertise, so I don't try to mess with things I'm not good at. Besides, smok3 already provided some kickass logos...

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Reply #71
Is there any news on whether a new site is going to happen?  The current site could really use an overhaul and Roberto's layout is a lot better.

And for the fun of it I threw together a logo.  Here's a png of it(original is svg):

 
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