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Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: yandexx on 2009-11-20 17:04:22
(believe it or not, but)
foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1 is now out.

Official Release Notes

Menu layout changes
A new Context Menu structure has been introduced along with a reworked context menu preferences page.
Holding down shift while opening a menu - with both context and main menu - will bring up menu commands that are normally hidden, so you no longer need to go through the preferences page to access obscure commands that are hidden by default.

Reworked Preferences
Various standard Preferences pages have been reworked. The Preferences dialog now has OK, Apply and Cancel buttons. Existing components need to be updated to utilize the new Preferences functionality.

New Edit Menu behavior
With Default User Interface, the Edit Menu commands operate on currently selected items, not just on the currently active playlist. This allows - for an example - to use the Copy command on Album List selection.
This feature currently does not work with third party user interfaces - Edit Menu commands operate on the active playlist just like in old foobar2000 versions; relevant components will need to be updated to comply.

Custom art filename patterns
You can now set custom filename patterns and paths for front cover, back cover, artist and disc artwork. You also have the ability to set a stub image for each of these.

New configuration file format
Configuration of individual components is now stored in separate files. Reading of old configuration files is still supported so your settings will be preserved while upgrading from older versions; however you will not be able to downgrade back to older 0.9.x releases without losing your settings.

Built-in support for Windows Media streaming
Buggy third party components are no longer required to play ASX/MMS/RTSP streams. It's recommended to uninstall relevant components.

Time limit in beta versions
To prevent people from running outdated beta versions, every beta version now expires after four weeks from the original release.

Release Notes on foobar2000.org (http://www.foobar2000.org/?page=ReleaseNotes&version=10)
Download page on foobar2000.org (http://www.foobar2000.org/download) (downloads via BitTorrent protocol)
(Distribution of betas via BitTorrent not up for debate (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=76339))

1.0 Change List:
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Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: Dr_Colossus on 2009-11-20 17:15:58
I always believed 2012, the end of the Mayan calendar, was going to be the date when Foobar2000 1.0 is release. I now see how ridiculous my beliefs were.

Keep up the great work!
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: ExUser on 2009-11-20 17:17:23
wat

this one even took me by surprise
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: smkk on 2009-11-20 17:35:27
What is this i don't even.

Many thanks.
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: 2E7AH on 2009-11-20 17:58:55
change log doesn't mention this great improvement:
properties dialog: updating files only on affected changes (more (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=72166))
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: ExUser on 2009-11-20 18:35:38
Those of you confused about the 1.0 version number really don't know the degree of bugfixing that has gone on with this release. There are so many behind-the-scenes bugs that have been fixed, it's ridiculous.
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: skelly831 on 2009-11-20 18:35:51
Confused and excited, playing with it now
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: smkk on 2009-11-20 18:41:49
There are so many behind-the-scenes bugs that have been fixed, it's ridiculous.

Any chance for a more detailed list of changes and bugfixes? Would be interesting.
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: Axon on 2009-11-20 18:52:38
LULWUT

WHEN VERSION = 1.0 MUSIC = !FUBAR
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: Jny on 2009-11-20 18:52:57
WOW! finally!
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: Xezzy on 2009-11-20 18:56:17
All i can say is that I'm really happy with new features!
Foobar looks a lot better with new context menu, the old one was such a mess... And oddly enough, didnt even realize that it was an issue back then o.0
You certainly know where foobar is going, good job!

One thing bothers me though... What if 1.0 beta will explode after 4 weeks, and there wont be new foobar release? We all gonna have to downgrade, thus all component settings will be lost ^^
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: q-stankovic on 2009-11-20 18:57:11
[quote author=yandexx link=msg=668677 date=]
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: yandexx on 2009-11-20 19:01:53
Some notes:

* Default User Interface: new pseudo color code system for status bar and playlist view.

Try using > and < characters in the Default UI status bar and/or custom columns to shift color towards the Highlight or Background color.
Example: [font= "Lucida Console"]$replace(%title%,'(',<<'(',')',')'>>)[/font] will darken text surrounded by parentheses.

* You can now change audio output or GUI without restarting foobar2000.

* Album-art viewer: Open action on double-click.
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: Xezzy on 2009-11-20 19:03:47
Yeah, I just found those in new titleformat reference. And there is no $rgb anymore.
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: 2E7AH on 2009-11-20 19:10:27
Which one is better: with vertical (old) or horizontal (new) scrollbar?

(http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/8595/sshot1p.png) (http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/103/sshot6.png)
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: Xezzy on 2009-11-20 19:13:08
I'm not sure if I should report this here, but I don't seem to access file properties with toolbar button...

EDIT: or any context menu item for that matter. Maybe its designed that way?
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: mixcherry on 2009-11-20 19:52:23
 This is great! Now I know what Santa is going to put in my stocking this year
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: Frank Bicking on 2009-11-20 20:02:20
Thread split: Menu layout changes in v1.0 (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=76330)
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: linus on 2009-11-20 20:08:48
foobar2000 1.0    ????

I... just..... can't... believe.... this... !

I never believed that this happened in my life!     
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: TomBarlow on 2009-11-20 20:19:33
This is great news! Although, .asx streams aren't working for me:

Quote
Unable to open item for playback (Unsupported file format):
"E:\Music\Internet Streams\BBC Radio 1\Radio1.asx"


Another question: will ../artist.jpg work as a search pattern for artist art or do I have to do some titleformatting?

---

edit: I have got asx streams working: for some reason it wouldn't play .asx files already in a playlist, but it can play them when I re-add them. However, it doesn't read the artist and title information in the <AUTHOR> and <TITLE> tags. It reports the path as mms:something instead of E:\something which foo_input_mslive did, which means the art doesn't work (although I can set up art based on the paths now so that's not a big problem).
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: s33m33 on 2009-11-20 20:46:25
At last. Thanks Developers. 

Quote
Portable installs now remember Media Library paths relatively to the install folder.

Could you please consider saving database file in root of media folder?

e.g. If my song folder is C:\Music, then database files would reside at C:\Music\database.fpl & C:\Music\PlaybackStastics.dat.

This way, even a new install of Foobar2000 would retain statistics by just adding music folder to Media Library.
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: Alexxander on 2009-11-20 21:12:04
Thanks for your hard work! After VLC went v1 now foobar2000 too 

I installed it and am looking around.

I see that the Name format in the Converter dialogue window hasn't been changed. I made some simple suggestions (I think) in this post (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?s=&showtopic=73923&view=findpost&p=650576) to gain some field space. What about making the window resizable?

One other thing: The Apply Replay Gain in context menu Utilities of mp3 files has gone?

Thanks
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: marc2003 on 2009-11-20 21:14:43
my first little bug report. it didn't recognise i had oggenc2.exe already in my foobar folder when converting a file. i had to locate the file to make it work. no such problem with flac or lame.
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: Yirkha on 2009-11-20 21:24:22
Thank God for v1.0, people can stop asking finally...
Some more changes:
  Added troubleshooter notice when foobar2000 wasn't correctly closed last time.
  Better error reporting for broken FLAC files.
  FLAC "native cuesheets" are removed as well when removing embedded cuesheets.
  Broken MP4 frames no longer abort decoding.
  Updated Vorbis cover art reading to the new spec.
  Converter rejects non-console executables for encoders (avoids common mistake of people using installer packages instead of the encoders themselves).
  Added MP3 gain target level configuration (advanced preferences).
  Added Ctrl+PageUp/PageDown accelerators for tab changes.
  Added bindable command which goes straight to the Output preferences page and selects the "Output device" dropdown for faster output switching e.g. using a shortcut.
  Added commands for changing DSP presets directly.
  Re-added v0.8 menu commands for direct change to a certain volume.
  Default UI splitters are thinner/less borders somewhere.
  More consistency in UI, "Vista" look everywhere.
  Album list: Removed
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: DustMagnet on 2009-11-20 21:28:58
Wow, a major milestone. Congratulations to Peter and his team of developers.

My favorite feature so far: The ability to change the audio output in mid-play. I can throw my music to my home theater on a whim, and then pull it back. It works without fuss. Simply brilliant. It's already changed my playback patterns. Restart took only a few seconds, but I wasn't inclined to do it. Wonderful.




Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: Xezzy on 2009-11-20 21:30:18
  Converter rejects non-console executables for encoders (avoids common mistake of people using installer packages instead of the encoders themselves).


But... emm... it was dark! And I was drunk!
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: bubbleguuum on 2009-11-20 21:35:19
...and stereo LPCM http streaming (audio/L16 mime-type).
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: 2E7AH on 2009-11-20 21:39:18
* You can now change audio output or GUI without restarting foobar2000.

as I know changing audio output doesn't needed restart, maybe missing something?
as for changing GUI it's the same as old change display then "file > restart" command - foobar is literally restarted

+ keyboard shortcuts filter maybe can be accelerated a bit when typing - timing between typing keys and trying to find matches can be extended i.e. no matter how fast I enter "playlist" it stops on "p", then "pl" then "pla" etc
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: Yirkha on 2009-11-20 22:39:00
Some more changes regarding Output preferences page:
  Bit depth for DirectSound devices is fixed to 32bit float on Vista+, because the system mixer uses that format internally and other settings caused only unnecessary conversions.
  For outputs which dictate the format and sample rate to the application instead of letting it choose (e.g. ASIO), a meaningful message is shown to hint that this is the case.
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: SafirXP on 2009-11-21 02:31:30
Congrats guys, finally getting to see Foobar reach version ONE! Thanks for developing the best audio player on the planet! One more reason I can't switch to linux for everyday use.

I myself will wait till the second beta release :-P Unless someone can confirm that the DTS, AC3, MIDI & Channel Mixer plugins work without a hitch!

Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: Robertina on 2009-11-21 03:19:38
@ the foobar developer team,

thank you very much for the new version of foobar2000!

Robertina.
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: mudlord on 2009-11-21 06:26:01
Quote
What if 1.0 beta will explode after 4 weeks, and there wont be new foobar release? We all gonna have to downgrade, thus all component settings will be lost ^^


Not true at all.

Any developer with x86 ASM knowledge and knowledge of kernel/user-mode debuggers can hack the player to not have that problem..... That's not to say I don't support this practise, but realistically, a skilled enough person can easily write a patch to do this, so that it does not violate the license since a modified binary is *not* distributed
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: Snowknight26 on 2009-11-21 07:52:32
The default currently selected button no longer seems to be Close after doing a successful file rename operation. Was kind of handy to be able to hit enter twice, once for Run, once for Close.
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: Yirkha on 2009-11-21 09:01:05
why does it reindex the music folder everytime I restarted foobar2000?
What specifically do you mean by "reindex"?

Any developer with x86 ASM knowledge and knowledge of kernel/user-mode debuggers can hack the player to not have that problem.....
This is not really the point, I'm afraid. The time limit isn't there to block users from using expired versions completely, it will just politely tell people running old betas to upgrade to a "stable" version, that's all. Sure anybody and his dog can defeat the check in a second, but then it's not there for those people in the first place.
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: Jubei on 2009-11-21 09:19:50
Wow! Came as quite a surprise when I was reading my RSS feeds this morning.

Does this mean I have to reconfigure my foobar again??! I just started using o.9.6.9 six months ago ....

Anyway, thanks for the great work - Foobar has made a world of difference to way I listen to music.
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: lokioki on 2009-11-21 09:59:22
Just noticed that when editing "Colours And Fonts" section under "Default User Interface", the changes doesn`t take immediate effect and I have to click Apply when I change something to see it change. Intended effect ? If it was, I preferred the instant change and not having to click apply everytime.

And when I go to DUI > Quick Setup > Change Color for example "Gray Orange" it doesn`t change the colors showing in the "Colours And Fonts" menu, they stay the same they were before going to QS > CC. Intended effect ?
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: Goldie Lin on 2009-11-21 10:26:17
Thank the foobar developer team for your great work.

  • Default User Interface: new pseudo color code system for status bar and playlist view.

I'm glad to hear this, but how to use the "pseudo color code"?
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: Robertina on 2009-11-21 10:36:40
I'm glad to hear this, but how to use the "pseudo color code"?

Has been explained here (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=76327&view=findpost&p=668683).

Robertina.
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: Porcus on 2009-11-21 10:44:30
Congrats! Had you released this on April 1st, you could have fooled us all :-D
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: Goldie Lin on 2009-11-21 11:27:28
I'm glad to hear this, but how to use the "pseudo color code"?

Has been explained here (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=76327&view=findpost&p=668683).

Robertina.


Thanks for your help. 

Finally, My dream comes true!
(http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/4204/fb2k1b1pseudocolorcodee.th.png) (http://img696.imageshack.us/i/fb2k1b1pseudocolorcodee.png/)

the code of the new custom column: "Title-TArtist":
Code: [Select]
$replace(%title%,'(',<<'(',')',')'>>)[>>> '//' %track artist%]
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: bigonroad on 2009-11-21 11:44:03
I did think there would never be a 1.0. It's mad how much work has gone into this beast.

Love it!
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: (Sly) on 2009-11-21 11:53:35
Embedded covers lost priority over external covers. Please add back the priority for embedded covers, or at least add a name that can be used in the sources list.

P.S.: I use singles collection, where every file has different cover, and i use folder.jpg for files that i don't have embedded cover. Now for every file the folder.jpg is displayed.
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: JackieKu on 2009-11-21 12:33:20
Hi,
1.0 beta prompts me a component is outdated and it suggests me update the component. However, the component is developed by me for my personal use (I never release it to public). Any idea to prevent this?
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: chongy5 on 2009-11-21 13:16:17
[quote author=(Sly) link=msg=668876 date=1258804415]Embedded covers lost priority over external covers. Please add back the priority for embedded covers, or at least add a name that can be used in the sources list.

P.S.: I use singles collection, where every file has different cover, and i use folder.jpg for files that i don't have embedded cover. Now for every file the folder.jpg is displayed.[/quote]

Please don't do this. Embedded covers are cumbersome, add unnecessary increases in file size, and need ID3 tagging software to manipulate - having a separate image file is far easier to manipulate (in any file explorer) and makes much more sense. Thanks for the 'Custom art filename patterns', I've been wanting that for a while since the newer DUI was introduced.
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: sld on 2009-11-21 15:27:27
Some more changes regarding Output preferences page:
  Bit depth for DirectSound devices is fixed to 32bit float on Vista+, because the system mixer uses that format internally and other settings caused only unnecessary conversions.
  For outputs which dictate the format and sample rate to the application instead of letting it choose (e.g. ASIO), a meaningful message is shown to hint that this is the case.

Pardon my ignorance, but I always thought that the option was for the output device. For example, my USB DAC only takes 16-bit depth, up to 48000 kHz sample rate. I can't complain because DS and ASIO work ok.

How does WASAPI Exclusive Mode fit into this scheme?
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: Xezzy on 2009-11-21 15:40:39
Just noticed that when editing "Colours And Fonts" section under "Default User Interface", the changes doesn`t take immediate effect and I have to click Apply when I change something to see it change. Intended effect ? If it was, I preferred the instant change and not having to click apply everytime.


I think it MIGHT be a bug, since changing DSP chain takes effect immidietly (it cancels un-applied changes when closing or canceling preferences window) which is IMHO good solution and could work with "colours and fonts".
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: ChronoSphere on 2009-11-21 16:08:40
First, thanks for the release!
Are there any plans to add win7 shell integration to foobar? There is a plugin that activates it, but it's not customizable to the extent i'd like to have (no custom commands on the context menu of the thumbnail, only play and preferences). Sorry if it was asked already but i didn't find anything about it in the pinned "issues and feature proposals" thread.

[quote author=(Sly) link=msg=668876 date=1258804415]Embedded covers lost priority over external covers. Please add back the priority for embedded covers, or at least add a name that can be used in the sources list.[/quote]Agreed. Please give us some way to change the priority of the embedded covers.

Please don't do this. Embedded covers are cumbersome, add unnecessary increases in file size, and need ID3 tagging software to manipulate - having a separate image file is far easier to manipulate (in any file explorer) and makes much more sense. Thanks for the 'Custom art filename patterns', I've been wanting that for a while since the newer DUI was introduced.
Well, everyone has their own way to handle the files. I prefer to have ONE file that has all the info and not several separate ones scattered around the hdd/folder. Besides, portable mp3 players support embedded art only, at least the ones i saw. An option to set priority won't harm your nor mine way of organizing files.
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: ExUser on 2009-11-21 16:14:13
Pardon my ignorance, but I always thought that the option was for the output device.
And you know what Vista+ does? It has a 32-bit float pipeline. This option hooks foobar2000 right into that pipeline instead of requiring a conversion. Before the audio gets sent to your device, Windows automagically drops it down to 16-bit or whatever. So to recap, before: foobar2000 outputs N-bit audio to Windows, Windows changes the N-bit to 32-bit, Windows mixes with whatever other audio is being played, Windows changes 32-bit to the bitdepth of your output device, Windows sends the audio. The new way skips Windows' conversion step. It's a minor optimization.

How does WASAPI Exclusive Mode fit into this scheme?
It doesn't. It hasn't changed.
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: ExUser on 2009-11-21 16:21:59
1.0 beta prompts me a component is outdated and it suggests me update the component. However, the component is developed by me for my personal use (I never release it to public). Any idea to prevent this?
Tell me the name of the component and I'll see what I can do. Generally when crash reports come from just one PC they don't get labelled as problematic.
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: JackieKu on 2009-11-21 16:35:18
Tell me the name of the component and I'll see what I can do. Generally when crash reports come from just one PC they don't get labelled as problematic.

Well, its name is foo_script.
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: ExUser on 2009-11-21 16:36:22
Well, its name is foo_script.
You must be using an out-of-date API. playlist_loader?
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: JackieKu on 2009-11-21 16:54:39
Well, its name is foo_script.
You must be using an out-of-date API. playlist_loader?

Yes, it's using playlist_loader to provide a customized playlist format. So how could I implement a playlist format for 1.0?
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: sld on 2009-11-21 17:00:27
The new way skips Windows' conversion step. It's a minor optimization.

How does WASAPI Exclusive Mode fit into this scheme?
It doesn't. It hasn't changed.

Thank you!
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: guruboolez on 2009-11-21 17:04:25
I'm glad to see a new version of my favorite audio player.

I wonder if I did something wrong but I have some troubles using the new album art patterns. Does it support wildcard? Not for file extension but for path.

Code: [Select]
ALBUM\
     CD.1l3\
         front.png
         track 01.flac
         track 02.flac
         track 03.flac      
     CD.2l3\
         track 01.flac
         track 02.flac
         track 03.flac    
     CD.3l3\
         track 01.flac
         track 02.flac
         track 03.flac


When I type “..\CD.1l*\front.png” in pattern album art aren't displayed for tracks in folder 2 and 3. But when I type “..\CD.1l3\front.png” it works fine.
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: dim^ on 2009-11-21 17:45:35
Anybody else get the error message "Initialization failure : Internal Error - please re-run the foobar2000 installer", when installing 1.0beta1?  This error occurs almost at the end of the installation, just after it says in the NSIS log "Created uninstaller".  Of course I re-ran the installer, multiple times even, but this error pops up every time.  I have never seen it until now...

Any idea on how to extract a more detailed log file from the installer, so I can track down what it barfs on?

I found a post on this forum that pointed at a missing components\foo_ui_std.dll file, but in my case this is not missing at all...
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: yandexx on 2009-11-21 18:03:04
I wonder if I did something wrong but I have some troubles using the new album art patterns. Does it support wildcard? Not for file extension but for path.

Looks like wildcards for directory paths are not supported. At least for the moment.
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: Innuendo_ on 2009-11-21 18:09:31
Crap.

I must be doing something wrong. I'm a Foobar newbie who is in waaaay over his head running br3tt's XChange3 configuration with a cubic ass-load of additional components. In other words, I'm running a Foobar configuration way above my experience level that I probably have no business running. Well, anyway...I threw caution to the wind & installed v1.0 Beta 1 fully expecting everything to explode with messages of components being banned, components not working right, etc. I've read enough stories on the forum to know what "fun" a new major release of Foobar brings.

So, the installer finishes & the little box next to "Launch Foobar is checked" so I take a deep breath and hit the Finish button. Foobar launches...and......................everything works.

Well, where's the excitement in that, I ask? 

Seriously, though, the only difference in behavior is the new "embedded cover art doesn't take priority anymore" thing, but that's no big deal.
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: hash on 2009-11-21 21:16:09
Maybe I missed something?
(http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/8963/foo.gif)
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: bb10 on 2009-11-21 21:20:53
Maybe I missed something?
(http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/8963/foo.gif)

Right click Status Bar, check the 2 bottom options.
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: Alexxander on 2009-11-21 21:27:10
One other thing: The Apply Replay Gain in context menu Utilities of mp3 files has gone?

Today Apply Track/Album ReplayGain to MP3 Data do show in context menu of foobar2000v1.0 beta 1 when mp3 file(s) selected. I don't know what happened 
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: Digmen1 on 2009-11-21 21:39:03
Great I have been a user of Foobar for about the last 5 years. I always wondered when version 1 was going to come out.

The exact opposite of Microsoft who take about 3 versions to get any software going. Windows 7 ?

I just love Foobar for its playlists. (the rest I am too old to understand !)

Thanks Peter and the Guys.
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: hash on 2009-11-21 21:40:18
@bb10 thanks

Will there be new sdk?
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: 2E7AH on 2009-11-21 22:07:42
pathetic screenshot (http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=Foobar2000:Foobar2000)
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: TimUK on 2009-11-21 22:07:47
...and stereo LPCM http streaming (audio/L16 mime-type).


L PCM?

Will this allow me to stream from Foobar on a PC that has my music library to another networked PC running Foobar that is connected to my amp and speakers?

Can't wait to try this, can you make a quick guide?

Tim
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: Yirkha on 2009-11-21 22:17:16
Anybody else get the error message "Initialization failure : Internal Error - please re-run the foobar2000 installer", when installing 1.0beta1?  This error occurs almost at the end of the installation, just after it says in the NSIS log "Created uninstaller".  Of course I re-ran the installer, multiple times even, but this error pops up every time.  I have never seen it until now...
See if all .dll files in the components folder are named in lowercase or its name otherwise mangled.
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: foolver on 2009-11-21 22:49:37
pathetic screenshot (http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=Foobar2000:Foobar2000)


hell yeah, ken snyder!



btw, AWESOME UPDATE! i knew something big was going since there were no updates for a long time now... i suppose we're gonna have at least 2 additional betas until a full release?
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: chaoz on 2009-11-22 02:32:41
"To prevent people from running outdated beta versions, every beta version now expires after four weeks from the original release."

Does that mean it'll revert back to the stable releases?
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: kode54 on 2009-11-22 03:15:51
"To prevent people from running outdated beta versions, every beta version now expires after four weeks from the original release."

Does that mean it'll revert back to the stable releases?

No, but it does mean that either a new beta or a stable release should be available within 4 weeks of this release.
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: marc2003 on 2009-11-22 03:31:55
i've only just noticed i can access DUI settings when columns UI is active. that's a great new feature. as i use media library search, it's nice that i can add/remove columns on the fly without having to restart foobar. 
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: Squeller on 2009-11-22 11:34:17
Thank you. Personally I don't care if it's called 5.0 or 0.9124, it's just psychology  Many changes don't affect me as a ColumnsUi user...

Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: Squeller on 2009-11-22 11:45:56
For remote controlling, I want to change the DSP setting with FB2K command line. Good news, you made them accessible via menu. Finally! A big thank you! But how can I access them with the command line? I have a DSP setting called "Vlevel standard".

Quote
M:\Foobar2000\foobar2000.exe /command:"Vlevel standard"


...does not change anything. Will I have to use foo_runcmd from foosion?

BTW, the "foobar2000.exe /?" could be more informative about the /command syntax...
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: lokioki on 2009-11-22 12:22:15
A possible bug found. I was playing one album which had no artwork. So I went and downloaded and saved as folder it in the correct folder. Then I went back to foobar (of course it aint showing yet), switched to a different album so that it would refresh and went back to the one I was listening, but it doesn't still show it, but after restart it started to show it : /
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: jk007 on 2009-11-22 12:24:36
How can I import settings from previous setting file for 0.9.6.9

oh it works... just copy cfg file in directory


Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: dim^ on 2009-11-22 12:40:02
See if all .dll files in the components folder are named in lowercase or its name otherwise mangled.

Lowercasing the components folder didn't help, but lowercasing "FooBar2000.exe" to "foobar2000.exe" did.

Weird, I would not consider case changing "mangling", but apparently foobar can't handle being "capitalized".  A very strange behaviour, if you ask me.
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: wojtek on 2009-11-22 12:41:45
Keyboard settings (bug?):
- (previously, 0.9) select any of existing shortcuts, hit new - the focus in the field below is on the action form previous command (however its not selected per se)
- (now, 1.0) after selecting a shortuct and then crating new one the focus in the field below always go to "[main] -> edit -> playlist attributes -> copy played tracks to playlist"

It's especially annoying while trying to add few similar shorcuts (for example rating)
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: /mnt on 2009-11-22 12:54:51
This is awesome news, i've been using foobar2000 for almost 4 years and it's still my all time favorite music player.
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: jmccrohan on 2009-11-22 16:20:39
It feels strange with the version number being greater than 1.0.
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: klynton on 2009-11-22 17:25:48
This version doesnt work with Creative Alchemy. I test in Win7 64bit ver Prof ENG. When I turn off support in Alchemy control panel, everything is ok, when support is on I have error:
"Unrecoverable playback error: Unsupported stream format (0x88780064)"
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: q-stankovic on 2009-11-22 19:34:24
Just out of curiosity: Does it have any reason that this beta is called 1.0 and not 1.0.0?
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: Rain on 2009-11-22 19:48:28
Is it safe to install the 1.0 beta over the current 0.9.6.9?
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: DocBeard on 2009-11-22 20:01:29
Well, it's probably just good sense to back your install folder up before doing anything to it. However, I didn't have any problems at all installing overtop of my old 9.6.9 install.
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: thecircusfreak on 2009-11-23 01:03:56
Quote
Reworked Preferences: OK/Cancel/Apply buttons, new layout of standard pages.


Just a minor thing on this, I dont think "reset all" button should be on every preferences page. It it should exist only in advanced or say componets page IMO.
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: JacksonGrey on 2009-11-23 02:05:27
This is looking great, already finding these new features useful.

Does anyone know how to set a default image when there's no album art present? Seems the legacy option has finally been removed, but I'm not sure how you set it using the new art options.
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: Yirkha on 2009-11-23 02:07:19
Preferences > Display, there is "Stub image path" for every image type at the bottom.


All, I remembered one more small but nice feature not mentioned here yet.
Standard Copy command and Ctrl+C now add formatted track title to the clipboard as an alternate format, so there is no need to use Copy Name(s) explicitely (except for some cases when the target program has problem with multiple-format clipboards etc.).
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: kkl on 2009-11-23 03:28:44
Why the CTRL+F not work on Playlist Manager like it was?
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: shakey_snake on 2009-11-23 03:38:00
Perhaps you need to explain to us what it did do for you...
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: kkl on 2009-11-23 04:09:16
After changing playlists (quite frequent recently), the focus is on the Playlist Manager. Later I wanna do a search and then can't use CTRL-F. I need to switch focus back to playlist before I can search.
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: AtaqueEG on 2009-11-23 05:51:14
Thank you, Peter.

Thank you, so much.

I love this software so much, it is the first thing I install when reformatting a computer, before Firefox!

I loved it beyond reason a couple of weeks back when it helped me backup my iPod's music just the way I wanted to, with minimal messing of the out-of-the-box settings.

I loved it since day one, when a lot of people thought it looked like the illegitimate child of WinAmp and Notepad.

I loved it since it started playing my beloved MP3s gaplessly, back in 2003.

I loved it when it became portable.

And I'll love it until I die, I'm sure.
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: Robertina on 2009-11-23 07:10:28
And I'll love it until I die, I'm sure.

foobar lovers don't die (also a new feature since v1.0 beta 1 which has not mentioned till yet), as well as foobar2000 itself  .

I beg your pardon, but I couldn't resist...
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: eightfold on 2009-11-23 08:00:15
First off, congrats to the dev team for reaching 1.0!

I'm not too happy with some of the changes made, but I do like the other additions.

One thing I gotta ask though is that the option to add a keyboard shortcut for Properties (properties tab) no longer exists, so will it be added again in the future? I prefer just pressing a simple keyboard shortcut rather than shift-clicking on the context menu item...
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: Robertina on 2009-11-23 08:42:41
One thing I gotta ask though is that the option to add a keyboard shortcut for Properties (properties tab) no longer exists, so will it be added again in the future? I prefer just pressing a simple keyboard shortcut rather than shift-clicking on the context menu item...

I would also appreciate that very much!

If I delete the Properties' default keyboard shortcut and then assign a new one or even the same to it foobar then opens the Properties tab directly, but there is no possibility to add a shortcut to the metadata tab anymore (sorry for my English).
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: DocBeard on 2009-11-23 12:04:46
I just noticed you can change Default UI color/font preferences while using Columns UI now. Awesome! Why is this awesome? Because the album list and playlist/library search windows also use these settings, and it was really cumbersome to alter these before if you were using another UI.

(I, er, do hope this is a feature and not a bug  )

In any event, I'm quite impressed by the new beta. I quite like the refinements I've seen so far, aside from the (yes, yes, I know) reduced customizability of the context menu, which is akin to my favorite restaurant not serving iced tea any more; a little irksome, certainly, but hardly a deal-breaker.

Seriously, excellent work on this release.

(Now, if only queuing up something from a playlist other than the one playing wouldn't switch control to that playlist...)
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: Kohlrabi on 2009-11-23 16:27:55
Is it safe to install the 1.0 beta over the current 0.9.6.9?

The handling of component configuration changed in 1.0 beta 1, so if you installed it over 0.9.x it would convert the old settings to the new format, and you won't be able to convert them back. So, I'd advise you to backup your settings first (%APPDATA%\Roaming\foobar2000), and then install. Also, it could happen that certain components won't load with 1.0 beta 1, because they might be blacklisted for stability issues.
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: Zarggg on 2009-11-23 16:30:06
One thing I gotta ask though is that the option to add a keyboard shortcut for Properties (properties tab) no longer exists, so will it be added again in the future? I prefer just pressing a simple keyboard shortcut rather than shift-clicking on the context menu item...

I also miss being able to double-click in the Properties tab to bring up the Properties window. Can this function be re-added through Keyboard shortcuts? (I haven't played around with that much, so I don't know what is possible.)
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: (Sly) on 2009-11-23 22:51:28
Back to cover displaying bug that i posted here: http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....st&p=668876 (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=76327&view=findpost&p=668876)
Update:I hav more files in a folder with folder.jpg in the folder. all files have embedded covers. the embedded covers normally should be displayed, not the folder.jpg.
The Problem: embedded cover is not displayed for files where embedded cover size is smaller than arround ~70kb, instead of this folder.jpg is displayed.
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: Yirkha on 2009-11-23 22:56:19
The larger (file size, not image size) cover art is used. That's for cases when there is ugly small embedded image and better quality one as a separate file.
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: shakey_snake on 2009-11-23 22:58:25
This was changed due to the fact that some users often had larger, high-res folder.jpg that they wanted fb2k to display and also had smaller embedded cover art for their portables.
I can't find the thread right now but some searching should procure the thread.

Anyways, unless you have some particularly good reason you folders are a mess, that reason trumps you.


[edit]landlord has so much speed
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: (Sly) on 2009-11-23 23:02:29
The larger (file size, not image size) cover art is used. That's for cases when there is ugly small embedded image and better quality one as a separate file.


in 0.9.x everything worked fine.

this is wrong....
covers where embedded by me and are high quality 500x500 files scaled down from 1500x1500 and saved at q95 jpg.

wishlist: possibility to set embedded cover priority via album art lists.
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: Synthetic Soul on 2009-11-24 07:01:48
I only use external files, but I'd have to say the logic stated by Yirkha makes perfect sense to me.  With that in mind I'd say that it is your set-up that is "wrong".  I guess your external files must be larger and worse quality?  In which case, why have them?
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: (Sly) on 2009-11-24 08:56:40
I only use external files, but I'd have to say the logic stated by Yirkha makes perfect sense to me.  With that in mind I'd say that it is your set-up that is "wrong".  I guess your external files must be larger and worse quality?  In which case, why have them?


I keep Folder.jpg in case of files that don't have embedded covers. And is useful for other programs that don't read embedded covers, and when i'm browsing folders with explorer in thumbnail mode.

P.S.: I only use embedded covers for "Singles Collection", for other albums i use Folder.jpg.

You guys if you handle the problem than embedded cover support should be removed (to reduce executable size), what do you say....

The new priority system introduced in 1.0 is for newbies....this is the first thing that i don't like in foobar2000 for years.
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: mixcherry on 2009-11-24 17:29:57
Default User Interface: new pseudo color code system for status bar and playlist view.

Try using > and < characters in the Default UI status bar and/or custom columns to shift color towards the Highlight or Background color.

This is great new feature. However, shouldn't there be another "special character" for resetting color? Equivalent of $rgb(). Maybe "|" character would be appropriate.
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: Innuendo_ on 2009-11-24 18:19:22
[quote author=(Sly) link=msg=669495 date=1259053000]The new priority system introduced in 1.0 is for newbies....this is the first thing that i don't like in foobar2000 for years.[/quote]

I have to disagree. We have some portable music players around here that can't handle embedded cover art greater in size than 200x200. If things were your way foobar would be displaying 200x200 cover art all because I want to have cover art on my players. The new way is not for newbies. It's logical. It's so logical I can't believe that all players don't behave like this.
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: Case on 2009-11-24 19:07:08
This version doesnt work with Creative Alchemy.

You have no reason to use ALchemy with foobar. This is not a game that needs EAX effects.
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: Matyas on 2009-11-24 21:37:04
...and stereo LPCM http streaming (audio/L16 mime-type).

L PCM? Will this allow me to stream from Foobar on a PC that has my music library to another networked PC running Foobar that is connected to my amp and speakers?

Can't wait to try this, can you make a quick guide?

Seconding this request. Please explain this function/feature.
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: Yirkha on 2009-11-24 21:39:18
Look at foo_upnp (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=69664).
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: oldgoat on 2009-11-24 23:31:31
This is great! Now I know what Santa is going to put in my stocking this year
  • Does it mean that all 0.9 components should work without recompilation?
  • Will new SDK include Default UI Elements API? Is new SDK planned to be released as soon as stable 1.0 is released or will there be some delay?
  • I would also love to see more "under-the-hood" changelog. E.g. what about "relative paths" in Media Library (Case mentioned planned support for mounted drives in [a href='index.php?act=findpost&pid=645795']this topic[/a])
  • The Play command appears in context menu even if it is un-checked in preferences (it only occurs in Default UI). Is it by design?


Looks like some 0.9 components are not working, but that's to be expected. SHN, TTA and MSNalt have reported incompatibility to me, but since all others appear fine, I can live with it until their authors update!

Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: lvqcl on 2009-11-24 23:51:32
SHN: http://foosion.foobar2000.org/components/?...version=0.4.2.2 (http://foosion.foobar2000.org/components/?id=shorten&version=0.4.2.2)
TTA: http://www.saunalahti.fi/cse/foobar2000/ (http://www.saunalahti.fi/cse/foobar2000/)
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: Rain on 2009-11-25 02:25:02
Instead of MSNalt, use foo_wlm: http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....showtopic=66346 (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=66346)
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: Goldie Lin on 2009-11-25 05:41:42
...MSNalt have reported incompatibility to me...

This (http://www.saunalahti.fi/cse/foobar2000/) case's compiled MSNAlt version 2.41 is work fine for me. (fb2k 1.0b1, XPP-SP3)
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: dubpistol on 2009-11-25 10:04:21
* Default User Interface: new pseudo color code system for status bar and playlist view.

Highlighting in status bar gives another color than highlighting in playlist view. In playlist view highlight is orange, in status bar it's dark blue (RGB 0,0,85) and almost not noticeable 

(http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/6066/unbenannt1cu.th.png) (http://img268.imageshack.us/i/unbenannt1cu.png/)

Status bar:
Code: [Select]
[%artist% $char(8226) ]%title%  <<['['[$meta(album artist) $char(8226) ]%album%[ #[%discnumber%/]$num(%tracknumber%,2)]']'$rgb()]>> $tab()$if(%_ispaused%,<<PAUSED>>,>>PLAYING<<) $char(8226) %codec% %bitrate%kbps $char(8226) %playback_time%[ $char(8226) %_time_remaining%]


And a second point: Highlight in playlist view should even be visible if track is selected.
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: Frank Bicking on 2009-11-25 10:18:34
Highlighting in status bar gives another color than highlighting in playlist view.

That is because the status bar uses system colors.
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: ExUser on 2009-11-25 13:39:39
And I'll love it until I die, I'm sure.
foobar lovers don't die
Old foobar2000 lovers never die. They just get blacklisted by Peter and refuse to load one day.  (And the joke's even funnier if you replace his name with his IRC nick...)
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: dubpistol on 2009-11-25 14:04:31
Highlighting in status bar gives another color than highlighting in playlist view.

That is because the status bar uses system colors.

Ah, thank you. That makes highlighting in status bar more or less useless - with my system colors.
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: odyssey on 2009-11-25 16:12:27
I tried converting some FLAC images to single-file using 1.0b1 (lossless) and some albums that failed.

The converter finished conversion apparently successfully, but complained about an unsupported format on the output files (while trying to tag them, because the resulting files were tag-less, but played fine).

I'm posting it here because I have never seen similar problem using pre-1.0, but it can of course just be a coincidence
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: Yirkha on 2009-11-25 16:22:29
Didn't it have an embedded cuesheet like here (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=75192)?
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: odyssey on 2009-11-25 16:24:33
That could be possible  Weird error anyway...
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: GeSomeone on 2009-11-25 16:48:10
I noticed that the visuals Peak meter and VU meter (when run in their own window) have a much larger minimum width now. In fact much to large for stereo or mono (for 5.1 it would be just about right).
The height is still adjustable as far as it was before.

edit I should add, this is when using vertical bars (like I do  )
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: 2E7AH on 2009-11-25 18:56:47
minor glitch - if display is set to 16 bit (Windows 7), radio buttons in advanced preferences are blank:

(http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/3453/94742288.png)
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: phool on 2009-11-27 09:01:10
Just had to say thanks for adding the ability to set custom folder paths for album art! One less component required for my default installation.

I wonder whether this new ability means we may see an update to facets in the near future... (/me prays)
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: rmask on 2009-11-27 14:44:25
@respectful authors

Thanks so much for the ability to map a key for a quick jump to the device output dropbox.


Although I (and I'm sure a lot of head-fi users and general htpc addicts) would appretiate an additional option to map a key to the specific output device.

Thanks so much, keep up the good work.
Title: foobar2000 v1.0 beta 1
Post by: shakey_snake on 2009-11-27 14:49:03
Although I (and I'm sure a lot of head-fi users and general htpc addicts) would appretiate an additional option to map a key to the specific output device.

This isn't possible and is why the new shortcut works as it does.
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