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Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 28 September, 2009, 02:19:26 PM
I have released WMP Tag Plus, a Windows Media Player plug-in for viewing and editing metadata tags of MPEG4, Vorbis, FLAC and WavPack files.

WMP Tag Plus is different from the existing tag support plug-ins in the fact that it has a deeper integration into WMP, while the other plug-ins rely more or less on a workaround. This means that you can now use the Advanced Tag Editor to edit the tags of MPEG4, Vorbis, FLAC and WavPack files, which wasn't possible with the existing plug-ins. Another advantage is that WMP Tag Plus can set the playback length of these files in the library, which makes seeking possible when playing them.

WMP Tag Plus is written for Windows Media Player 11 and 12.

For more information and screenshots, please visit the official WMP Tag Plus web page (http://bmproductions.fixnum.org/wmptagplus/).

Download WMP Tag Plus (http://bmproductions.fixnum.org/download/download.php?prog=WMPTagPlus&file=http://bmproductions.fixnum.org/software/WMPTagPlus-2.9.exe)

October 22, 2009: WMP Tag Plus is now officially released, only some minor issues had to be fixed since the release of the second beta. The official WMP Tag Plus web page is at http://bmproductions.fixnum.org/wmptagplus (http://bmproductions.fixnum.org/wmptagplus)

November 7, 2009: WMP Tag Plus 1.1 fixes a bug that prevented tag changes from being written correctly to certain FLAC files. This update is recommended if you are using the FLAC tag support of WMP Tag Plus.

February 12, 2010: WMP Tag Plus 1.2 fixes a possible crash in Windows Media Player 11.

May 13, 2012: WMP Tag Plus 2.0 adds album art support, Monkey's Audio and Musepack tag support, a feature to refresh song tags in the media library, and much more.

June 2, 2012: WMP Tag Plus 2.1 fixes a possible crash when closing Windows Media Player on Windows 7.

November 29, 2013: WMP Tag Plus 2.2 fixes several bugs, such as a possible crash when accessing the plug-in's settings, and adds full Musepack SV8 support.

March 29, 2015: WMP Tag Plus 2.5 adds read/write support for star ratings stored in FLAC and Ogg Vorbis files, and fixes broken plug-in functionality on Windows 8.1 as caused by certain Windows Updates.

August 15, 2015: WMP Tag Plus 2.6 adds support for Windows 10.

September 11, 2016: WMP Tag Plus 2.7 contains, among other improvements, a fix for a possible error when reading MPEG-4 tags and for Windows Media Player 12 leaking memory while it reads embedded album art.

October 29, 2016: WMP Tag Plus 2.8 fixes a possible Windows Media Player hang that was introduced in version 2.7.

January 7, 2017: WMP Tag Plus 2.9 fixes tag support issues in newer versions of Windows 10.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: teohhanhui on 01 October, 2009, 10:10:20 PM
I got so excited upon seeing this that I immediately downloaded and installed it, without noticing the fine print that FLAC support is coming soon.

You might want to have a look at this (http://www.tech-archive.net/Archive/Media/microsoft.public.windowsmedia.player/2009-02/msg00697.html) concerning the missing length and bitrate fields for FLAC files played from the Media Library. (Or perhaps you already have a clear idea on how to fix it...)
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: teohhanhui on 01 October, 2009, 11:23:46 PM
I got so excited upon seeing this that I immediately downloaded and installed it, without noticing the fine print that FLAC support is coming soon.

You might want to have a look at this (http://www.tech-archive.net/Archive/Media/microsoft.public.windowsmedia.player/2009-02/msg00697.html) concerning the missing length and bitrate fields for FLAC files played from the Media Library. (Or perhaps you already have a clear idea on how to fix it...)

When opening an external FLAC file in WMP12, the xiph Directshow Filters for Ogg Vorbis, Speex, Theora and FLAC (http://xiph.org/dshow/) and DC-Bass Source Filter (http://www.dsp-worx.de/?n=15) are both able to provide seek. madFlac provides the length and bitrate but seek is broken. In any case WMP12's "Preview" can always skip successfully...
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 02 October, 2009, 11:45:02 AM
You might want to have a look at this (http://www.tech-archive.net/Archive/Media/microsoft.public.windowsmedia.player/2009-02/msg00697.html) concerning the missing length and bitrate fields for FLAC files played from the Media Library. (Or perhaps you already have a clear idea on how to fix it...)

Thanks for the link, but I already knew about that thread. It actually was one of the reasons why I started writing this plug-in (if you view the thread in Google Groups (http://groups.google.be/group/microsoft.public.windowsmedia.player/browse_thread/thread/a633b3c2fd401c50/c6abc2815acbc136), you will see that I even posted some replies).

I do have a clear idea on how to fix it, and it's already implemented in the plug-in  WMP Tag Plus will set the length of files for all supported formats, so once FLAC support is ready, it will set the length for FLAC files too.

When opening an external FLAC file in WMP12, the xiph Directshow Filters for Ogg Vorbis, Speex, Theora and FLAC (http://xiph.org/dshow/) and DC-Bass Source Filter (http://www.dsp-worx.de/?n=15) are both able to provide seek. madFlac provides the length and bitrate but seek is broken. In any case WMP12's "Preview" can always skip successfully...

That's correct, but with the emphasis on "external". Files being played directly from the library won't be seekable. WMP Tag Plus fixes this.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: teohhanhui on 03 October, 2009, 12:28:22 AM
That's great! Thanks in advance.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: koawmfot on 09 October, 2009, 12:11:27 PM
fantastic.  couldn't come at a better time.  thanks for the work and i look forward to the flac support.

(was just reading through this thread and was wondering what happend to your guy's wonderful ideas.
http://groups.google.mg/group/microsoft.pu...c9c48e535f0bf8) (http://groups.google.mg/group/microsoft.public.windowsmedia.player/browse_thread/thread/a633b3c2fd401c50/64c9c48e535f0bf8))
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 09 October, 2009, 04:35:15 PM
I am pleased to announce that the next beta of WMP Tag Plus is ready for download. On top of MPEG4 tag support, this release now includes tag support for FLAC, Vorbis and, as a bonus, WavPack. WMP Tag Plus is now UAC (User Account Control) aware too.

Download WMP Tag Plus (http://bmproductions.fixnum.org/download/download.php?prog=WMPTagPlus&file=http://users.skynet.be/tim.debaets/software/WMPTagPlus-1.0.exe)

If no real issues arise, this beta will become the final release of WMP Tag Plus 1.0. Again, please let me know if you find any problems, so they can be fixed before the final release.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: teohhanhui on 10 October, 2009, 04:11:50 AM
I am pleased to announce that the next beta of WMP Tag Plus is ready for download. On top of MPEG4 tag support, this release now includes tag support for FLAC, Vorbis and, as a bonus, WavPack. WMP Tag Plus is now UAC (User Account Control) aware too.

Download WMP Tag Plus (http://bmproductions.fixnum.org/download/download.php?prog=WMPTagPlus&file=http://users.skynet.be/tim.debaets/software/WMPTagPlus-1.0.exe)

If no real issues arise, this beta will become the final release of WMP Tag Plus 1.0. Again, please let me know if you find any problems, so they can be fixed before the final release.

After deleting the FLAC files and re-adding them to the library everything works great. Thanks!!

P.S: While you're at it what about tag support for APE?

EDIT: I just noticed that some/all tags failed to be read from files with non-ASCII characters in their filenames (depending on the Unicode plane I suppose).
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 10 October, 2009, 12:03:05 PM
What version of WMP and Windows are you using? Does this only happen with FLAC files, or with Vorbis and MPEG4 files too? Would it be possible to give me some examples of filenames that fail?

P.S: While you're at it what about tag support for APE?

As far as I know, APE is just a tagging format used in different audio formats (such as WavPack). Do you mean Monkey's Audio?
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: koawmfot on 10 October, 2009, 06:20:27 PM
nice that was fast.
99% of my flac made it in.

the one album i code not add properly is godspeed's "f#a# ∞"  i think it is the  '∞' character in the album name that is giving the problem.  just a guess as it is one of the only flacs i could not get in there.  i can zip it up and upload to a share if you'd like a sample to play with.

the single other issue i have is this, and it is a little strange and i am kind of guessing at how it manifests.
it appears that when WMP adds an mp3 to the library it uses the song tag's 'album artist' field to populate the WMP's artist information, and the 'artist' field to populate WMP's  'contributing artist' information. 
so let's say i have a compliation album that i put 'various artists' into the song tag's 'album artist' field, and the actual artist for each song in the song tag's 'artist' field.  if it is an mp3, WMP will file it under "various artists", with each song having it's contributing artist as the actual performer of the song.  if i add a flac of the same album, it does not process the 'album artist' field, and instead the album will end up with WMP adding each artist seperately.

i really hope that makes sense.  again i can send a zip of a flac vs. mp3 version of the same album with the same tags if you'd like to compare how WMP treats them.

i cannot thank you enough for this contribution.  it has made MCE an actual viable solution.  you did some great work here.  let me know if you need any help or more input.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 11 October, 2009, 09:41:19 AM
Thanks for the information. There indeed was a problem with filenames containing Unicode characters such as '∞', but I'm pretty sure that I have been able to fix it. Please re-download WMP Tag Plus and install it over your current installation. Re-add that one album to your library and check if the tags are now being read properly.

Regarding your second problem, WMP Tag Plus does support the album artist-field of FLAC files, but only when it's stored as a Vorbis tag. FLAC files can contain both ID3 and Vorbis tags, so I guess that your FLAC files contain the album artist only as ID3, resulting in WMP Tag Plus not being able to read it. I could verify this if you would PM me a sample FLAC file (1 file is enough).

BTW, you still haven't told me your WMP and Windows version
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: bryant on 11 October, 2009, 01:44:35 PM
Thanks very much for adding WavPack support to your plugin! 

Once you have a final release (or maybe you have?) I will put a link up on the WavPack site (if that's okay).

David
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 11 October, 2009, 03:30:40 PM
Please do, David, that would be great. The current version can be considered a "release candidate". If no big issues come up during the following week, it will become the final release.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: koawmfot on 11 October, 2009, 08:20:01 PM
Thanks for the information. There indeed was a problem with filenames containing Unicode characters such as '?', but I'm pretty sure that I have been able to fix it. Please re-download WMP Tag Plus and install it over your current installation. Re-add that one album to your library and check if the tags are now being read properly.

Regarding your second problem, WMP Tag Plus does support the album artist-field of FLAC files, but only when it's stored as a Vorbis tag. FLAC files can contain both ID3 and Vorbis tags, so I guess that your FLAC files contain the album artist only as ID3, resulting in WMP Tag Plus not being able to read it. I could verify this if you would PM me a sample FLAC file (1 file is enough).

BTW, you still haven't told me your WMP and Windows version

hey that worked perfectly for the unicode character.

i pm'd you two files for album artist thing.

hey seek works for the flac files as well.  my system is win7 x64 pro, so that makes it WMP12.
great job.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: teohhanhui on 12 October, 2009, 02:51:40 AM
What version of WMP and Windows are you using? Does this only happen with FLAC files, or with Vorbis and MPEG4 files too? Would it be possible to give me some examples of filenames that fail?

P.S: While you're at it what about tag support for APE?

As far as I know, APE is just a tagging format used in different audio formats (such as WavPack). Do you mean Monkey's Audio?

WMP12 on Windows 7 x64.

Well APE tags originated from Monkey's Audio, so yes. It shouldn't be hard to add support for .ape files now right? (Like how FLAC uses Vorbis comments...)

EDIT: Yes, the latest version does fix the Unicode filename problem. Thanks!
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 12 October, 2009, 11:54:56 AM
i pm'd you two files for album artist thing.

Thanks for the files. It looks like the FLAC file does contain the album artist as a Vorbis tag, contrary to what I was expecting. However, I noticed that this was stored as "ALBUM ARTIST", while WMP Tag Plus only checks the "ALBUMARTIST" field (without the space). I could easily fix this, so please re-download and reinstall WMP Tag Plus and re-add the files (once again, sorry ). Check if WMP Tag Plus now reads the album artist correctly.

Well APE tags originated from Monkey's Audio, so yes. It shouldn't be hard to add support for .ape files now right? (Like how FLAC uses Vorbis comments...)

I'm afraid that it is actually quite hard to add support for Monkey's Audio (.ape) files. WMP Tag Plus uses TagLib, which does support APE tags in WavPack and MPC files, but doesn't support the Monkey's Audio format at all. If there are a lot of requests for it, I might add support for this in a future version. Someone else could make this too; WMP Tag Plus has pluggable tag support and I'm planning to put some API documentation online soon.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: grommet on 12 October, 2009, 01:14:44 PM
Thanks for the files. It looks like the FLAC file does contain the album artist as a Vorbis tag, contrary to what I was expecting. However, I noticed that this was stored as "ALBUM ARTIST", while WMP Tag Plus only checks the "ALBUMARTIST" field (without the space). I could easily fix this, so please re-download and reinstall WMP Tag Plus and re-add the files (once again, sorry ). Check if WMP Tag Plus now reads the album artist correctly.
Be aware that some people/applications use ALBUMARTIST, and others use ALBUM ARTIST.  Welcome to loose tagging formats. 

For reading, the best practice would be to read either.  For writing, that's really up to you on which one you think should be the 'correct' one.  Winamp & dBpoweramp, for example, write ALBUMARTIST.  foobar2000 writes ALBUM ARTIST.  The previous popular tag extender, Mab_fr's WMPTSE used ALBUMARTIST.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: koawmfot on 12 October, 2009, 02:03:27 PM
Thanks for the files. It looks like the FLAC file does contain the album artist as a Vorbis tag, contrary to what I was expecting. However, I noticed that this was stored as "ALBUM ARTIST", while WMP Tag Plus only checks the "ALBUMARTIST" field (without the space). I could easily fix this, so please re-download and reinstall WMP Tag Plus and re-add the files (once again, sorry ). Check if WMP Tag Plus now reads the album artist correctly.


i will check the second i get home.  stuck at work now and itching to try it out.  (the system is off when not in use so no remote.)

Be aware that some people/applications use ALBUMARTIST, and others use ALBUM ARTIST.  Welcome to loose tagging formats. 

For reading, the best practice would be to read either.  For writing, that's really up to you on which one you think should be the 'correct' one.  Winamp & dBpoweramp, for example, write ALBUMARTIST.  foobar2000 writes ALBUM ARTIST.  The previous popular tag extender, Mab_fr's WMPTSE used ALBUMARTIST.


i am using tag & rename to tag the all the music files, which i now realize is using "album artist".  i did notice with foorbar that it is captured as "album artist" when checking the songs as well.

this tag extender works 1000x better than the previous popular tag extender.  if the above issue is in fact corrected, i have no album that did not get placed into the library exactly as it should.  PLUS now you can seek though the file and the time is correct.  fantastic work.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: koawmfot on 12 October, 2009, 05:11:51 PM
Thanks for the files. It looks like the FLAC file does contain the album artist as a Vorbis tag, contrary to what I was expecting. However, I noticed that this was stored as "ALBUM ARTIST", while WMP Tag Plus only checks the "ALBUMARTIST" field (without the space). I could easily fix this, so please re-download and reinstall WMP Tag Plus and re-add the files (once again, sorry ). Check if WMP Tag Plus now reads the album artist correctly.


i will check the second i get home.  stuck at work now and itching to try it out.  (the system is off when not in use so no remote.)


just got in and it looks perfect my friend.  i can't tell you enough how great this is and what great work you did here.  thanks for the effort.

one other thing, unrelated to your plugin but it is related to WMP tagging... does WMP read the "Disc Number" tag value??
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: teohhanhui on 13 October, 2009, 12:40:57 AM
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I'm afraid that it is actually quite hard to add support for Monkey's Audio (.ape) files. WMP Tag Plus uses TagLib, which does support APE tags in WavPack and MPC files, but doesn't support the Monkey's Audio format at all. If there are a lot of requests for it, I might add support for this in a future version. Someone else could make this too; WMP Tag Plus has pluggable tag support and I'm planning to put some API documentation online soon.

I don't use APE files, but they are quite popular too (second only to FLAC for lossless audio I suppose?)... It will definitely be something to look forward to.

EDIT: Added a taglib feature request here (http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=210404)
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 13 October, 2009, 08:25:28 AM
For reading, the best practice would be to read either.  For writing, that's really up to you on which one you think should be the 'correct' one.  Winamp & dBpoweramp, for example, write ALBUMARTIST.  foobar2000 writes ALBUM ARTIST.  The previous popular tag extender, Mab_fr's WMPTSE used ALBUMARTIST.

WMP Tag Plus will now read both fields, and will write ALBUMARTIST, so I guess that should be alright.

one other thing, unrelated to your plugin but it is related to WMP tagging... does WMP read the "Disc Number" tag value??

I think WMP does actually read it, but doesn't seem to be using it anywhere. In WMP 11, you could still view and edit this tag with the Advanced Tag Editor, which is unfortunately removed in WMP 12. There isn't something like a Disc number-column that can be enabled either.

EDIT: Added a taglib feature request here (http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=210404)

Thanks. I have voted for the request and added myself as CC, so I will be notified when something changes.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: EvtK on 14 October, 2009, 11:58:09 AM
Ah! this is real nice to see, thanks for the notice in the topic about 'WMPTSE'. The problem with that plugin was that is wasn't actually writing the tag information into FLAC files.

I hope this works, so I can finally start using my flac collection again
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: EvtK on 17 October, 2009, 05:09:04 PM
So, I spend some time.. and have to conclude it is NOT working for flac files. This is what I have experienced:

Clean WMP library (the latest WMP, comes with Windows 7). Put one album of flac files in directory 'music' (no subdirectory's). In WMP I have added the directory 'music' as the library directory. WMP finds the album (10 files). I search for album details with internetservice of WMP and I download correct titles and additional tag info. Then hit update media details. What happens: files are placed in subdirectory's ('rip file option') and have been given the right titles in file name. So far so good. Then I delete the WMP database file from my c: drive. Now I start up WMP again.. it start building a fresh new library.. If the plugin was doing allright, I should have written the correct titles hardcoded into flac files. Now this is where it goes wrong, because once finished building the library again, it shows the old titles and not the new one I received by looking up the album..

WOuld be real nice if you could fix this in the plugin.. thnx!
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 18 October, 2009, 05:35:14 AM
Thanks for the report. Did you use Apply media information changes (in the Tools menu) after the tags were updated? This command forces WMP to immediately write the changes to the files. This is important, because WMP usually waits a while, before writing the changes in the background. Also, please make sure that you don't have any other tag support plug-ins for WMP installed, as these could be getting in the way of WMP Tag Plus.

I currently don't have access to a Windows 7 system, so I can only try to reproduce your problem later tonight. In the meantime, could you disable the "Rename music files" and "Rearrange music in rip music folder" settings, and check if the changes get written to the FLAC files if you edit the tags manually in the library? Don't forget to use "Apply media information changes" here too. You can verify that the changes got written by removing the files from the library, and adding them back through Tools - Advanced - Restore deleted library items (so there's no need to rebuild the library). You can also use an external tagging tool such as AudioShell (http://www.softpointer.com/AudioShell.htm).
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: EvtK on 18 October, 2009, 08:25:40 AM
Hey Tim,

I did indeed apply the media information changes. And that also resulted in the files being placed under subdirectory's and renamed filenames with correct titles. I will check out your options asap, first, since I'm not at a windows xp machine, I will do exactly the same like I did yesterday on the windows 7 machine, just to make sure it's not caused by something I'm doing wrong.

I'll get back to you.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: EvtK on 18 October, 2009, 09:34:42 AM
Okay, completely NOT getting this. Here is the situation, on a Windows XP machine with WMP 11.

I have a song from Van Morrison, called 'Oh the warm feeling'. Funny thing is that in WMP online database it is wrong saved: 'Oh the Warn Feeling'. That is how I can check if things are adjusted or not.

So I have loaded the file into WMP. Title then is called 'warn', also in filename with small caps.. I load information from WMP database.. It finds the song, and I hit the ok button. Title is called now 'warm' in WMP. Also it immediatly changes filename to 'Warn' with caps. Then apply media changes, first it changes files (can see by timestamp) nothing seem to happen, then at last, when whole album has been changed, it changes back to file name 'warm' and also small caps. This also happens in WMP where titles are changed back (so it is not corresponding WMP database anymore) and with small caps.

Another funny thing: if I check tags with Audioshell, it tells me title is 'Oh the Warn Feeling'. If I check tags in WMP it tells me 'Oh the warm feeling'. I have deleted the database and let it rebuild again: still the same situation. No tags are written, although Audioshell displays correct tags.

So I have also checked if tags were written if I uncheck "Rename music files" and "Rearrange music in rip music folder" settings. Still the same problem.

Also checked to manually edit the file. After I change the title of a song and hit apply media changes, It changes back to original name???? Then If I check in explorer with Audioshell, it has been changed? Still wmp won't read it out.

Now here it comes: I changed the filename manually to 'test'. Without an active database, I opened the file: it shows title 'test' like I have adjusted. THen I rebuilded my database, and it loaded the 'Warm feeling' title again. That is interesting, since it was NOT in tag anymore, and also not in filename. Where did WMP get the title from? I also manually opened the file again, title now shows 'Warm feeling' again....

pfffffffff.

conclusion
As far as I can understand, does the plugin indeed change tags in flac file (since Audioshell shows changed tags, and also file timestamp is adjusted). But: WMP somehow is forced to read a hardcoded filetitle tag, somewhere in the FLAC file instead of title tag or filename.

Well enough bugtesting for now hhehehe.. this should be valuable information for you
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 18 October, 2009, 04:31:25 PM
Thanks for doing some more investigation. I tried to reproduce the problem by following your previous message but everything worked fine on my system. This makes me suspect that it only happens on certain files.

Also checked to manually edit the file. After I change the title of a song and hit apply media changes, It changes back to original name???? Then If I check in explorer with Audioshell, it has been changed? Still wmp won't read it out.

I think it would be best to go on with this, the rest is too confusing for me too  Would it be possible to send me this file through PM? Something like Yousendit (http://www.yousendit.com/) will do fine. Hopefully, this will allow me to reproduce the problem so I can start debugging it.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: EvtK on 18 October, 2009, 04:55:06 PM
I have just send a pm..

might it be that it has something to do with the files being stored an a network attached system (NAS Synology DS 207+)??
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 19 October, 2009, 10:57:49 AM
Thanks for sending me the file. WMP Tag Plus indeed doesn't write changed tags to the file correctly (it does actually save the changes, but doesn't overwrite the old values, and gets the old values again on the next read). AudioShell does seem to read the new values, so that explains why you were seeing different things in AudioShell and WMP. WMP Tag Plus uses TagLib to read/write tags, and I'm pretty sure that this is a bug in TagLib, so I have reported this (https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=211089) on their bug tracker. I guess the only thing we can do now is wait, and hope that a TagLib developer will quickly notice and fix this...

The bug only seems to happen on certain FLAC files, I think that most files will still work fine.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: EvtK on 19 October, 2009, 11:04:32 AM
Nice you have undertaken action so quickly..

and also to see that I'm not crazy.. hehehe

will see what happens!

thanks!
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: dtreth on 21 October, 2009, 10:40:09 PM
So I wanted to try out your plugin, having seen the purported advantages over the WMP Tag Support Extender. However, when I tried to install it I got the error: "Setup was unable to find Windows Media Player on this computer. Please make sure that at least version 11 of Windows Media Player is installed, this is required to use WMP Tag Plus." This is odd, seeing how I am running Windows 7 x64, which has WMP 12 installed. I use the Shark007 codec pack with the x64 components, and I have tried using both the 32-bit and 64-bit WMP's by setting them in the x64 Components settings manager.
So, my question is: why?

Thanks for your help in advance.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 22 October, 2009, 11:31:36 AM
I installed the x64 Components Add-on myself and noticed that it made some changes to the registry that confused the WMP Tag Plus installer. Please re-download WMP Tag Plus, this problem should be fixed now. Note that WMP Tag Plus only works on the 32-bit version of WMP.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: dtreth on 22 October, 2009, 04:28:37 PM
Thanks for the timely response. I am actually in the process of reinstalling Windows 7 in honor of the launch (yeah, I'm one of those people reinstalling all the time). I will try this in a few minutes.
Just curious, why are all these extensions 32-bit only? What would be the work to get a 64 bit version up and running? And also, is your source available? I'm trying to get into windows development (particularly WMP/C)  and I would like to look through the source of a few of my favourites.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 22 October, 2009, 07:11:34 PM
It would require quite a lot of work to make an x64 version of WMP Tag Plus. Besides that, it would add two more test cases, on top of Windows XP and the 32-bit versions of Windows Vista and 7. In my opinion, it really isn't worth all the trouble: the 32-bit version of WMP works just as good and just as fast as the 64-bit version. I guess that the other extension developers feel the same way about this.

The source code of WMP Tag Plus isn't available. I wouldn't recommend it as a starting point anyway, because WMP Tag Plus relies on API hooking to add metadata support, which requires at least some programming experience and a good understanding of the Windows internals. The plug-in uses very little of the actual WMP API.

BTW, WMP Tag Plus is now out of beta and is officially released, the plug-in's web page is at http://bmproductions.fixnum.org/wmptagplus (http://bmproductions.fixnum.org/wmptagplus)
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: dtreth on 22 October, 2009, 11:23:35 PM
OK, understood. I do however have another interesting problem. Sometimes when I open windows media center (player) I have no media, and it tkes a little while to load. Then other times I have media, and it all loads twice. I've checked the file locations, they are the same. I'm not really sure what to make of this.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 23 October, 2009, 12:25:44 PM
That doesn't really sound like it could be caused by WMP Tag Plus. Does this still happen after uninstalling my plug-in? Maybe your WMP library somehow got corrupted and needs to be rebuild (http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html#medialibrary)? (be aware that rebuilding the library will make you lose all play counts, and possibly ratings too)
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: dtreth on 23 October, 2009, 02:43:51 PM
That doesn't really sound like it could be caused by WMP Tag Plus. Does this still happen after uninstalling my plug-in? Maybe your WMP library somehow got corrupted and needs to be rebuild (http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html#medialibrary)? (be aware that rebuilding the library will make you lose all play counts, and possibly ratings too)

Well this is definitely something that has happened since the installation. However, I exited WMP and restarted and for the last few times it seems to have stabilised. I really like this plugin and will definitely remember to include it in my apps that must be installed on a new computer. Thanks for all your hard work.
As a side note, I have my HomeGroup computers linked, and I am trying to play media over the internet (at university). I can play the MP3's but the FLAC's do not play. Do you know if it's just a bandwidth issue or does your plugin not afford this capability?
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 23 October, 2009, 04:38:59 PM
Are the required DirectShow filters for FLAC playback installed on the target PC? That's the only thing I can think of, to be honest. WMP Tag Plus only handles the metadata, anything related to playback is handled by other components. I have never tested this, so it might work, but it just as well won't.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: davidos on 29 October, 2009, 05:20:23 AM
It would require quite a lot of work to make an x64 version of WMP Tag Plus. Besides that, it would add two more test cases, on top of Windows XP and the 32-bit versions of Windows Vista and 7. In my opinion, it really isn't worth all the trouble: the 32-bit version of WMP works just as good and just as fast as the 64-bit version. I guess that the other extension developers feel the same way about this.


Just browsing this thread, and it may be worth noting that to get some 64bit codecs  (flac, mov, whatnot) running on W7 64bit in Media Center using the shark007 codec pack (from here (http://www.shark007.net)) you have to make WMP12 64bit the default instance of WMP (W7 comes with both 32 and 64 bit versions, and out of the box by default it runs 32bit).  I guess that might mean having to run WMP12 (32) for tagging duties and WMP12 (64) at other times.  Or something... which might get sort of annoying.

Still, when people are writing useful software and providing it gratis who's complaining at minor inconveniences?!
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: teohhanhui on 29 October, 2009, 05:58:41 AM
It would require quite a lot of work to make an x64 version of WMP Tag Plus. Besides that, it would add two more test cases, on top of Windows XP and the 32-bit versions of Windows Vista and 7. In my opinion, it really isn't worth all the trouble: the 32-bit version of WMP works just as good and just as fast as the 64-bit version. I guess that the other extension developers feel the same way about this.


Just browsing this thread, and it may be worth noting that to get some 64bit codecs  (flac, mov, whatnot) running on W7 64bit in Media Center using the shark007 codec pack (from here (http://www.shark007.net)) you have to make WMP12 64bit the default instance of WMP (W7 comes with both 32 and 64 bit versions, and out of the box by default it runs 32bit).  I guess that might mean having to run WMP12 (32) for tagging duties and WMP12 (64) at other times.  Or something... which might get sort of annoying.

Still, when people are writing useful software and providing it gratis who's complaining at minor inconveniences?!

Are there any tangible benefits of running the 64-bit WMP?
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: davidos on 29 October, 2009, 06:21:30 AM
Are there any tangible benefits of running the 64-bit WMP?

I had to do it to get the 64 bit codecs (flac, mov some others, but those two I needed) from shark007 to work in W7(64) Media Center - which we use in the living room.  Without making 64 bit WMP the default, Media Center would complain that it couldn't find those files: even though they showed up in its library, when you clicked to play them they wouldn't... at least that was the case for QT movies.  Unconfirmed for flacs, as once I diagnosed the problem I set WMP 64 bit as the default and haven't seen the problem again.

This was even though WMP 32 bit and 64 bit were perfectly happy to play those mov files.  So... confusingly for my setup the advantage of running WMP 64 bit is in the behaviour of Media Center, not WMP itself!

Should leave it at that - don't want to get the thread off-topic...
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: EvtK on 29 October, 2009, 06:35:22 AM
Thanks for sending me the file. WMP Tag Plus indeed doesn't write changed tags to the file correctly (it does actually save the changes, but doesn't overwrite the old values, and gets the old values again on the next read). AudioShell does seem to read the new values, so that explains why you were seeing different things in AudioShell and WMP. WMP Tag Plus uses TagLib to read/write tags, and I'm pretty sure that this is a bug in TagLib, so I have reported this (https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=211089) on their bug tracker. I guess the only thing we can do now is wait, and hope that a TagLib developer will quickly notice and fix this...

The bug only seems to happen on certain FLAC files, I think that most files will still work fine.



any news on the bug? I have tried today again with some other files, but all seem to have the problem.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 29 October, 2009, 01:19:30 PM
One of the TagLib developers asked me to send a FLAC file that shows the problem, so I sent him the same file you sent me. That was last weekend, and no real news since then. I will ask them for an update myself this weekend if nothing has happened by then.

Another thing that might be useful, is if you could tell how exactly the FLAC files were created.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: EvtK on 29 October, 2009, 07:46:05 PM
Hey Tim,

I checked against some deeper myself and found out something interesting. The flac files are on a NAS (Synology), and I haven given rights to read/write. When I change something to the files in wmp, eg: searching for album info and apply, I see now that somehow the rights are changed to only read. That might be the problem for not righting it correctly. I don't know if this is a bug caused by your plugin.. but it happens to mp3 and flac files.

I'm gonna post this on synology forum also. Will keep you informed.

Have you have any experience with the plugin in combination with network locations?
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: EvtK on 30 October, 2009, 07:48:44 AM
oh I forgot to mention that I have created the flac files from original cd's with exact audio copy program.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 30 October, 2009, 11:21:17 AM
I checked against some deeper myself and found out something interesting. The flac files are on a NAS (Synology), and I haven given rights to read/write. When I change something to the files in wmp, eg: searching for album info and apply, I see now that somehow the rights are changed to only read. That might be the problem for not righting it correctly. I don't know if this is a bug caused by your plugin.. but it happens to mp3 and flac files.

I think it's pretty safe to say that this isn't caused by my plug-in if it happens to MP3 files too. WMP Tag Plus doesn't read from/write to these files, they are completely handled by WMP itself. It certainly doesn't explain the weird behaviour with tags you were seeing earlier, that really seems to be a bug in TagLib.

Have you have any experience with the plugin in combination with network locations?

No, it was only tested on local music files.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: davidos on 30 October, 2009, 11:01:05 PM
Just browsing this thread, and it may be worth noting that to get some 64bit codecs  (flac, mov, whatnot) running on W7 64bit in Media Center using the shark007 codec pack (from here (http://www.shark007.net)) you have to make WMP12 64bit the default instance of WMP (W7 comes with both 32 and 64 bit versions, and out of the box by default it runs 32bit).  I guess that might mean having to run WMP12 (32) for tagging duties and WMP12 (64) at other times.  Or something... which might get sort of annoying.

By way of follow up, you can use it as suggested above.  The WMP x86 (ie 32bit) plugin for library management and tagging works as advertised.  And provided you have x64 codecs set up, once it's in the library, Media Center should find it and play fine.  Works for me on flacs (only one album so far, but it works).

One strange thing is that when viewed through the Music Library link in Explorer, which is how W7 organises things, a whole load of extra cover images not all of them from the right album - but all from the same artist in my case, show up in the folder.  When you look at the underlying folder though, there's no sign of those added images.  Closer examination shows that they are images from the other folders for that artist. 

It all looks OK in WMP and WMC though.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: davidos on 31 October, 2009, 01:01:36 AM
One strange thing is that when viewed through the Music Library link in Explorer, which is how W7 organises things, a whole load of extra cover images not all of them from the right album - but all from the same artist in my case, show up in the folder.  When you look at the underlying folder though, there's no sign of those added images.  Closer examination shows that they are images from the other folders for that artist. 

It all looks OK in WMP and WMC though.


OK - all those extra jpg images only happened to that one album.  I'm guessing they will go away if I delete and rebuild the WMP database - but haven't got time for that now.  A second album didn't pick up all the extra garbage.  The Music Library in Windows 7 doesn't see the tags at all even though WMP and WMC do.  No surprise really, as the program is a plug-in for WMP, not the OS!
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: koawmfot on 31 October, 2009, 03:57:11 PM
tim...

I just cleared my library and re-added everything since i was updating all the files tags and wanted to start clean.

it seems that now it is not picking up the album art out of the flac file.  if i have a folder.jpg with the files it will display that, but if i remove or rename the folder.jpg, WMP is not reading the art out of the file itself.  i believe it is supposed to.  let me know if i am wrong.  i pm'd you a file.

thanks
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 31 October, 2009, 05:16:55 PM
WMP Tag Plus currently doesn't support album art, sorry for not mentioning this earlier. This is something that might be added later in a new version.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: b23h on 05 November, 2009, 01:53:56 AM
Installed WMP Tag Plus on a Windows 7 machine.  Had been runnning Xiph’s Directshow filters & WMPTagSupportExtender 1.4.  WMP Tag Plus was VERY quick and successfully identified all my albums whereas WMPTagSupportExtender left quite a few as unknown.

However, and this is critical for me, I found that I cannot control WMP Tag Plus from refreshing my tag information.  For example, some of the music I listen to is fairly obscure, and I have found there are errors in the information downloaded that puts some tracks under let’s say  the band name “The Art Bears” versus tracks on the same album listed as “Art Bears”.    So the tracks from a single album are split into two albums and whenever I try to correct the information under WMP Tag Plus, seconds after I have corrected it, WMP Tag Plus has already changed it back.  If there was some sort of refresh button, at least I would have control over when it refreshed the information.

So while I absolutely love the speed of the program and how it shows the length of the songs, I ended up uninstalling it as I need to be able to control the album information.  WMP Tag Plus is a great program, and I certainly hope that you will keep my issue in mind as you continue to work on it, I would love to switch back to it.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: EvtK on 05 November, 2009, 06:01:03 AM
Hey b23h,

That sounds like the exact same problem I was facing with the plugin. I have had discussion with Tim over this, and we found a solution in updating the external TagLibTagSupport.dll. With that update the pluging read's in writes to the same metablock. Tim hasn't officialy released the new version, but I tested it, and it seems to work. Tags aren't changed back by WMP anymore.

I still have some difficulties to actually make WMP adapt the changes to the files, but that might also be due to the fact that my flac files seem to have corrupted metablocks. When I open a specific flac file with a program like mp3tag, tag&rename, godfather tag or foobar I'm getting different results for each program??

cheers.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 05 November, 2009, 02:21:18 PM
b23h, what's the file type of these tracks? Tags changing back to their old values immediately after editing certainly shouldn't happen and probably means that WMP Tag Plus was unable to write the changes.

I have just PM'ed you the download link to WMP Tag Plus 1.1. Could you please try it and check if the problem is fixed in this newer version? I am going to wait with officially releasing WMP Tag Plus 1.1 until I'm sure that the issue you're having is fixed.

Also, remember to remove any other tag support plug-ins, such as WMP Tag Support Extender, to prevent conflicts with WMP Tag Plus.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: EvtK on 05 November, 2009, 06:15:00 PM
Tim,

After cleaning my flacfiles all troubles seem to have gone away. No more freezing of WMP and very fast speeds. It also looks like tag information is now 100% correctly stored, will give you a heads up tommorrow, since WMP will be finished by then.

I actually never said thanks for making this wonderful piece of software. It is awesome, so thanks!

WMP Tag Plus currently doesn't support album art, sorry for not mentioning this earlier. This is something that might be added later in a new version.


this would be lovely feature to be added.. any heads up for future releases?
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: b23h on 05 November, 2009, 09:38:38 PM
Sorry...  running FLAC.  Thank you for 1.1, it did fix the problem.

Brian
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 06 November, 2009, 05:07:20 PM
Glad to hear that WMP Tag Plus seems to be working fine now for both of you. I'll probably release WMP Tag Plus 1.1 this weekend.

this would be lovely feature to be added.. any heads up for future releases?

There aren't any concrete plans yet. I would like to release some other things first, and I also want to be completely sure that the current WMP Tag Plus works well for most, if not all, people, before adding new features.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: EvtK on 07 November, 2009, 11:06:54 AM
Hey Tim,

I have a question left. How does the plugin handle the albumartist tags? I know WMP 'misuses' the BAND tag for albumartist. In my squeezebox system I have set this tag as to be used for albumartist also. I have updated my flac files and removed unwanted extra TAG fields, including the 'ALBUMARTIST' tag field (since BAND is taking care of that). But after updating my files using Windows Media Player, I see that the ALBUMARTIST tag is back again.

It would be nice to have the option for choosing how to write the albumartist info in which tag field. Like an option for 'write it to new ALBUMARTIST field' or 'write it to existing BAND field'.

Is that something for a new version?

cheers.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 07 November, 2009, 04:01:35 PM
WMP Tag Plus reads the ALBUMARTIST field (or ALBUM ARTIST if the former doesn't exist), and always writes to ALBUMARTIST. It ignores he BAND field, and I don't really see why it should misuse this field for album artist if the other two fields are much more suitable. The discussion at http://forums.mp3tag.de/index.php?showtopic=8705 (http://forums.mp3tag.de/index.php?showtopic=8705) seems to confirm this. As mentioned in this discussion, you can use Mp3tag to batch convert all BAND fields to ALBUMARTIST.

General news: WMP Tag Plus 1.1 is now officially released, see http://bmproductions.fixnum.org/wmptagplus (http://bmproductions.fixnum.org/wmptagplus) for more details.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: EvtK on 07 November, 2009, 05:38:06 PM
Hey Tim,

Well indeed ALBUMARTIST or ALBUM ARTIST (or in fact whatever you would like to enter) is suitable. But read this in the topic you mentioned:

Quote
yes, TPE2 has been hijacked, and yes, it shouldn't have been, but i doubt it'll ever change. TPE2 is effectively album artist now, its the de facto standard.


TPE2 = BAND, also:

Quote
TPE2 is used as "album artist" by Windows Media Player, iTunes, Winamp, Media Monkey, Amarok and others. WMP used it first, even though it's not strictly according to the definition, and other players followed the trend. Like it or not, it is a de facto standard now.

TXXX with description "ALBUM ARTIST" is used by Foobar2000 and ... wait, nothing else


on http://forums.musicbrainz.org/viewtopic.php?id=1481 (http://forums.musicbrainz.org/viewtopic.php?id=1481)

So what happens now is that on the flac files 2 tag fields stand for Album Artist (BAND and ALBUM ARTIST). This is confusing and can lead to problems, check here:

http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10724 (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10724)

I just thought it might be interesting to keep track on.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 08 November, 2009, 08:09:17 AM
FLAC files can contain both ID3 and Vorbis metadata, and WMP Tag Plus only uses the album artist tag of Vorbis metadata. TPE2 is an ID3 frame, so whenever they refer to it in that thread, it is only applicable to ID3, and not to Vorbis. Because WMP Tag Plus only uses the Vorbis metadata for this, it isn't applicable to the plug-in either.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: tvks on 18 November, 2009, 03:25:53 AM
Hey Tim,

Thank you for this excellent plug-in.

I have also came across with the "albumartist" problem. I use WMP's advanced tag editor to wirite tags for my .ogg files, but once I write the albumartist value or use WMP find the albun info, WMP can't play it anymore (but FB2K still can). So I have to use MP3tag to "correct" it, then it can be played again.

What's more, my DAP is also confused about this "albumartist" : in the screen where should show album name it turns out "ARTIST=XXXXX"' or albun name + album artist.

However, I really think this programme is great and thank you for your work. I hope this bug? can be fixed.

PS. is there any programe or plug-in can make vista exploer recognise the tags ?

Fogive me if you have answered such a question before , sine reading so much English is a little hard for me . 
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 18 November, 2009, 09:34:18 AM
What's the exact text of the error message that WMP shows when you try to play an OGG file with edited album artist? It would be interesting to know what OGG codec you have installed. Also, please explain "correcting it with Mp3Tag".

The problem with the DAP could be related to this. However, if it turns out that WMP Tag Plus correctly writes the album artist by the standards (which it should), and if the DAP doesn't follow these standards, then this is really beyond my control.

PS. is there any programe or plug-in can make vista exploer recognise the tags ?

You could install the TagLib Property Handler (http://sourceforge.net/projects/taglibhandler). Note that I haven't tested this myself, and that it doesn't have write support.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: tvks on 19 November, 2009, 07:55:10 AM
There is no text of the error message: WMP just “play”, but no sound out. I have found it is caused by the codec I used. I have uninstalled the codec package and installed the official codec by Xiph.Org and everything is fine.

"Correcting it with Mp3Tag" means add a BAND value or remove ALBUMARTIST value.

As to the DAP problem, I found that it can read some files correctly. Whatever, I don’t care.

Thank you for your advice!
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 19 November, 2009, 01:29:12 PM
Nice to see that the problem is already fixed. What was the codec pack that you initially had installed? This information might come in handy if other users are experiencing similar problems.

The DAP really shouldn't read the album artist from the BAND tag, this tag has a different purpose. ALBUMARTIST is much more suitable, and is the de facto standard.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: teohhanhui on 19 November, 2009, 03:39:50 PM
Quote
PS. is there any programe or plug-in can make vista exploer recognise the tags ?

You could install the TagLib Property Handler (http://sourceforge.net/projects/taglibhandler). Note that I haven't tested this myself, and that it doesn't have write support.

Thanks for pointing to that. It's just what I've been looking for. I don't need write support as Mp3tag can handle that just fine.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: tvks on 24 November, 2009, 06:40:15 AM
Nice to see that the problem is already fixed. What was the codec pack that you initially had installed? This information might come in handy if other users are experiencing similar problems.

The DAP really shouldn't read the album artist from the BAND tag, this tag has a different purpose. ALBUMARTIST is much more suitable, and is the de facto standard.


It's the PURE codec aimed at HD playback.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Mike Lowrey on 04 December, 2009, 04:34:10 PM
Hi,

i really like your plug in cause it is faster than WMP tag support extender and the length of each track is now known.

If you are interested in adding more features to Windows Media Player (and Media Center) it would be great if you are able to add support for cue sheets + flac images


greetz Mike
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 05 December, 2009, 10:08:18 AM
Actually, I have already tried to add CUE sheet support to WMP a while ago. However, it takes a lot of work and requires some ugly hacks to make it function properly, mainly because WMP doesn't really do gapless playback. This made me decide to stop trying and to spend my time on something easier instead (such as WMP Tag Plus). I might pick it up again someday, but it certainly won't be in the near future.

With FLAC images, do you mean embedded album art in FLAC files? Support for embedded album art is on the todo-list for WMP Tag Plus (as it has already been requested a couple of times). I can't say anything about a release date, except that it will be at least a couple of months from now, because I want to release some other things first.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: lord_funky_biscuit on 09 December, 2009, 04:11:53 AM
WMPTagPlus doesn't seem to be updating the seek bar on WMP 12 (Windows 7 64 bit) for me.
I'm playing FLAC files, using WMPTagPlus v1.1. The song length is displayed correctly in the playlist, and I can seek to any part of the song.
However, the seek bar doesn't update - it's as though the song isn't playing. If I seek, the seek bar will stay fixed at the point I sought (seeked?) to and not update.

Any ideas what might be causing this? Or is that a current feature/bug/limitation?

Cheers!
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: lord_funky_biscuit on 09 December, 2009, 05:49:37 AM
Interestingly, Last.FM is still scrobbling these tracks - so it knows that I've listened to over 50% of the track... strange.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 09 December, 2009, 09:44:34 AM
Which DirectShow filter is installed for playing FLAC files? If it's madFLAC, then I suggest uninstalling it and installing the Xiph.org Directshow filters (http://www.xiph.org/dshow/) instead. There is a problem with madFLAC not updating WMP's seek bar on Windows 7 64-bit.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: lord_funky_biscuit on 09 December, 2009, 06:45:13 PM
That'll be it - madFLAC is installed as part of the Shark007 codec pack.

Thanks! WMPTP is great.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Mike Lowrey on 10 December, 2009, 10:16:42 AM
Quote
With FLAC images, do you mean embedded album art in FLAC files?

No, i mean the ability to play a flac images based on cuesheets
If i start playing a flac image, wmp only shows some basic tags... that's why cue sheet support would be great, but if you say it's hard to implement then i have to wait...^^
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: b23h on 11 December, 2009, 09:41:00 PM
Hi Tim,

I wanted to say thanks for your quick response back in November.  Version 1.1 has been working great for me.  It's my favorite of all the flac metadata plug-ins I've tried.  I've got it working in Windows 7 64bit on two machines with WMP & media center and it's been working great.  I've had some problem with WMP in Vista 32, but I've have not been booting in to it enough to work the issue out.

Brian
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: b23h on 11 December, 2009, 10:02:26 PM
Happened to be working the issue while posting, had to delete library at %USERPROFILE%\Local Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Media Player\
cause it wasn't building the library.

thanks for the plug-in
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: madstrk on 12 December, 2009, 03:14:36 PM
How do I avoid WMP Tag Plus from adding mp4 music videos to "Video" library, as I prefer to view MP4 with audio tags such as used in "Music" library.

I've set up the Vista registry for Window Media Player to recognize mp4 as audio file, not video.
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Multimedia\WMPlayer\Extensions\.mp4]
"PerceivedType"="audio"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\MediaPlayer\MLS\Extensions]
"mp4"="audio"

With WMP Tags Plus disabled the files are loaded to "Music" library just fine. But when WMP Tag Plus enabled, my files are loaded to "Video" library (without audio tags) and Advanced Tag Editor doesn't even work.

Thanks
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 13 December, 2009, 08:23:26 AM
You say music videos, so these MP4 files also contain a video stream and not only an audio stream? WMP Tag Plus will detect a video stream and report this to WMP, so I guess that's why WMP classifies it as Video.

You could try changing the extension of the files to M4A. I doubt that this will help (as M4A files are probably handled identically to MP4), but it's still worth a try.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: madstrk on 13 December, 2009, 12:38:27 PM
You say music videos, so these MP4 files also contain a video stream and not only an audio stream? WMP Tag Plus will detect a video stream and report this to WMP, so I guess that's why WMP classifies it as Video.

You could try changing the extension of the files to M4A. I doubt that this will help (as M4A files are probably handled identically to MP4), but it's still worth a try.


Yes the MP4s contain video and audio. When I try changing the extension to M4a, they get added to the "Video" library with WMP Tags Plus enabled (which does not have audio tags editing in WMP). Without WMP Tags Plus enabled M4a are added to "Music Library" (with audio tags). This behaves the same as MP4, probably because WMP Tags Plus has same definition (MPEG4) for M4A and MP4.

What I need is an option for WMP Tags Plus to edit the IDE (MP3) tags inside the MP4s without causing WMP to add them to Video library. If I enable WMP Tag plus after adding MP4s to Music Library, it edits just fine.

If I define MP4 as FLAC in MWP Tag Plus it seems to add them to Music Library fien, and allow editing but tag structure is wrong.

Thanks
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 13 December, 2009, 04:13:50 PM
Exactly, setting MP4 to FLAC is incorrect and won't work. MPEG4 is the only correct format.

I hope you can understand that I really don't like adding options to WMP Tag Plus for edge cases like this, options that most other users don't need and can only confuse them.

Note that you can edit tags of MP4 files in the Video library, and that they will be written to the files. It's just the Advanced Tag Editor that isn't available there. The Actors-field is equivalent to the Artist-field in Music.

If you really want to have them in Music, I see 2 possible workarounds:

- Make sure WMP Tag Plus is disabled while the files are added, and re-enable the plug-in afterwards.
- Extract the audio streams to separate AAC files with a tool like YAMB (http://yamb.unite-video.com/index.html). AAC files will be added to Music.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: madstrk on 13 December, 2009, 11:54:00 PM
Exactly, setting MP4 to FLAC is incorrect and won't work. MPEG4 is the only correct format.

I hope you can understand that I really don't like adding options to WMP Tag Plus for edge cases like this, options that most other users don't need and can only confuse them.

Note that you can edit tags of MP4 files in the Video library, and that they will be written to the files. It's just the Advanced Tag Editor that isn't available there. The Actors-field is equivalent to the Artist-field in Music.

If you really want to have them in Music, I see 2 possible workarounds:

- Make sure WMP Tag Plus is disabled while the files are added, and re-enable the plug-in afterwards.
- Extract the audio streams to separate AAC files with a tool like YAMB (http://yamb.unite-video.com/index.html). AAC files will be added to Music.

Thanks for you prompt feedback.

I'll work with first work-around option.

I hope you will consider in the future MP4 music videos for add in, as I would expect a lot more use since Youtube is now supporting HD downloads in MP4 format.

Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Magess on 02 January, 2010, 08:40:37 PM
Could you possibly make a version of this plugin that will work with WMP64? I can only make Ogg and FLAC play in WMP64, but only WMP32 can read the tags on the files to generate a library because that's where your plugin works. And it doesn't seem inclined to add things to the library after the first time it makes it. I was hoping being able to put the plugin in WMP64 would give it complete functionality.

-Magess
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 03 January, 2010, 12:27:07 PM
No, a 64-bit version of WMP Tag Plus currently isn't planned, for reasons I explained earlier (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?s=&showtopic=75123&view=findpost&p=663841). I don't see why you shouldn't be able to play OGG and FLAC in 32-bit WMP, installing the 32-bit version of the DirectShow filters at http://xiph.org/dshow (http://xiph.org/dshow) should be enough.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Magess on 03 January, 2010, 12:30:09 PM
No, a 64-bit version of WMP Tag Plus currently isn't planned, for reasons I explained earlier (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?s=&showtopic=75123&view=findpost&p=663841). I don't see why you shouldn't be able to play OGG and FLAC in 32-bit WMP, installing the 32-bit version of the DirectShow filters at http://xiph.org/dshow (http://xiph.org/dshow) should be enough.


It should be. And yet it isn't. I have no idea why, and making Windows tell me will likely be a lot of trouble.

I suppose I could uninstall every codec and see how that goes.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: BarryM on 06 January, 2010, 06:00:10 PM
Just another word of thanks for this plugin.  Works like a charm importing my iTunes .M4A's data with WMP11 on XP. 

The only problem I had was that WMP 11's Music database got mucked up somehow  (maybe from playing with WMPTSE and it not liking WMP11?) and didn't import the data after this plugin was installed, so I followed the instructions in this thread and deleted the old database.  The only other tip for people I have is that one might have to do is to stop the Windows Media Player Network Sharing Service, which may have the WMP database locked.

Is it maybe worth putting in a "Refresh Data" pushbutton feature in the Plugins -> Options  (like WMPTSE has)?  It'd be handy for bad imports like this and/or new tag decoding capabilities  (like album art).

Thanks again!
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 07 January, 2010, 06:37:15 AM
It's unlikely that WMP Tag Plus corrupted the library database, as the plug-in doesn't have any direct effect on the library. It only handles the case where WMP is reading metadata from a music file.

WMP Tag Plus has a completely different approach than WMP Tag Support Extender, with the result that that adding a Refresh Data-button would be pretty hard (again because there's no direct link with the library). However, tags will be refreshed whenever WMP reads them again from the files. This can be triggered by, for example, removing the files from the library, and re-adding them through Add To Library (press F3).
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: FatBoyDrift on 10 January, 2010, 11:47:42 PM
@Magess, not sure if this helps your particular problem but the following worked for me...

I was using Windows 7 x64 and the 64-bit Xiph.org DirectShow filters to get FLAC playback. Couldn't make FLAC + WMP Tag Plus work. It's obvious in hindsight but I was using a 64-bit codec package and trying to make it work in 32-bit WMP + WMPTP plug-in (Duh).

I uninstalled the 64-bit Xiph.org filters and installed the 32-bit package instead. Now WMP12(32-bit), FLAC and WMP Tag Plus are living happily together, even on Windows x64.

Tim: you rock.

FBD
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: briggins on 14 January, 2010, 10:12:09 AM
First of all I'd like to thank Tim for an excellent plugin. It makes flac integration seamless, just like it claims to.

This may have nothing to do with the tag plugin but I hadn't noticed it before applying the plugin. When I sort by album, WMP11 groups the albums - all the A's, B's etc., separated by a thick line. But when sorting by artist, I cannot consistently get WMP11 to display the artists in groups. Sometimes it will group them and sometimes it won't. At one point, I could get this to work by clicking on the "Artist" column heading, but then later, in the same WMP11 session, it quit working and for the life of me I can't get it to work again. Note that this is only happening with the icon and tile views. The details view does show the artists in groups.

With the library view set to "Artist", and when viewing by icon, clicking on the other column headers (count, length or rating) displays the results in a group. In fact, all other sorting mechanisms in all other views work as they used to.  But not view and sort/group by artist.

If I'm just doing something stupid in WMP11, I'd appreciate any suggestions.

Running XP, SP2.

Thanks.

Bruce
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: briggins on 15 January, 2010, 12:36:26 AM
OK, I'd delete my post if I could, but I can't.  Rebooting my machine seems to have cured the problem with the WMP artist grouping issue.  Strange.

And sorry if anybody spent so much as a few seconds pondering this.

Bruce
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: lifespeed on 23 January, 2010, 01:16:25 AM
I have to respectfully disagree with your dismissal of Win 7 x64 support.  Windows Media Center is exclusively 64-bit on x64 windows.  Codecs have been released to support all audio and video formats.  Many people run 64 bit and are not going back.

While it may be true that WMP itself does not much matter 32 vs 64, there are many other implications on an x64 system.  I am not having any success with running WMP tag plus in 32-bit WMP as a workaround.  Still seems to miss some FLAC folders, but finds others.

Your efforts are much appreciated.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 23 January, 2010, 12:24:09 PM
Windows 7 x64 is in fact supported by WMP Tag Plus. The plug-in will only work in the 32-bit version of WMP, but this is still the default version on x64 systems.

It would really surprise me if WMP missing FLAC folders would have anything to do with 32-bit vs 64-bit. Are the folders added in Manage Libraries? Did you check with WMP's Folder view to make sure that the FLAC files aren't in your library after all? Moving the folders around could force WMP to pick them up. As a last resort, you could try restoring the media library.

What are the other implications you're referring to?
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: tmcbride67 on 28 January, 2010, 10:52:49 PM
Hi,

First I wanted to say thank you for such a useful piece of software.  I wanted to know if anybody else was seeing an issue I am running in to.  The bulk of my audio files are encoded as Apple Lossless files (ALAC).  A few of my files are encoded as AAC.  Both sets of files were encoded using iTunes and both sets of files end in .m4a.  I am running Windows 7 Professional 32 bit.  When I add a folder to the WMP library that containes both ALAC and AAC files, only the AAC files show up in the Music library.  All of the ALAC files show up under Other Media.  Any idea why this would be happening?

One other thing I discovered is that if I change an ALAC file's extension from .m4a to mp4, that seems to move it from Other Media to the Music library.  I am trying to share a single library of files between WMC and iTunes, so I would like to avoid haing to rename all my ALAC files to .mp4.  Any thoughts or suggestions on this?
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Miffy on 30 January, 2010, 12:54:04 AM
Hi,

First I wanted to say thank you for such a useful piece of software.  I wanted to know if anybody else was seeing an issue I am running in to.  The bulk of my audio files are encoded as Apple Lossless files (ALAC).  A few of my files are encoded as AAC.  Both sets of files were encoded using iTunes and both sets of files end in .m4a.  I am running Windows 7 Professional 32 bit.  When I add a folder to the WMP library that containes both ALAC and AAC files, only the AAC files show up in the Music library.  All of the ALAC files show up under Other Media.  Any idea why this would be happening?

One other thing I discovered is that if I change an ALAC file's extension from .m4a to mp4, that seems to move it from Other Media to the Music library.  I am trying to share a single library of files between WMC and iTunes, so I would like to avoid haing to rename all my ALAC files to .mp4.  Any thoughts or suggestions on this?


Hi,

The same problem on my WMP 12. There is now change if I install WMP Tag Plus or not. In both cases m4a ALAC shows up as other media and m4a (AAC) shows up as music.

Any solution for this?
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 30 January, 2010, 10:24:03 AM
Indeed, I can confirm that lossless M4A files get added to Other Media instead of Music in WMP 12.

Unfortunately, this problem isn't really related to WMP Tag Plus, so there's not much that I can (currently) do about it. On WMP 12, the MPEG-4 tag support of WMP Tag Plus is automatically disabled, because WMP already has native MPEG-4 support. It looks like this native support doesn't include ALAC.

Changing the extension to .mp4 seems to be the only possible workaround at the moment. One of the following days, I will post a message in the Windows 7 Media forum (http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w7itpromedia/threads) to ask if the WMP team is aware of this bug, and if there are any plans to fix it. However, the chances are pretty small that a fix will be released in the near future. When I'll start working on the next major version of WMP Tag Plus, I will look into adding an option to override WMP's native MPEG-4 support. This would allow WMP to properly recognize lossless M4A files.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 12 February, 2010, 04:11:20 PM
I have just released version 1.2 of WMP Tag Plus. This version fixes a possible crash while accessing the file properties of a media file from within Windows Media Player 11.

Also, the documentation for the WMP Tag Plus Tag Support API (http://bmproductions.fixnum.org/wiki/Tag_Support_API) is now available online. This API allows developers to add support for other formats to WMP Tag Plus, and as a result, to Windows Media Player. On this page, you can download the accompanying SDK too, which contains useful header files and example source code.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: RonM on 15 February, 2010, 11:36:15 AM
Hi there,

I'm new to WMP Tag Plus.  I have a large music library which contains mostly lossless WMA files, which are played mainly through Squeezebox applications (streamed to my various music players).  I've used WMA because I sometimes wanted to play files through WMP.  I've recently decided to use FLAC as my primary file-type, and settled on WMP Tag Plus as the add-on of choice to bring FLAC tag support to my installation of WMP11. 

However, it doesn't seem to work.  All the flac files have correct tags (either natively, or after addition with MP3Tag, and all tags show up properly in the Squeezebox apps, but they do not show in WMP.  The files are there and can be played, but no tags are displayed.  I'm able to EDIT tags from within WMP, but even things like bit rate are not being displayed.

Others seem not to have these problems, but there appears to be something awry with my implementation -- may be obvious, but I'm at a loss.

I'm using 32 bit WMP, on 64 bit Vista, and have installed the current version of Tag Plus (1.2)

Ron
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 15 February, 2010, 02:09:24 PM
Are you sure that WMP Tag Plus is loaded in WMP? The plug-in should be listed in the Tools - Plug-ins menu, and should have a checkmark next to it. If you have any other tag support plug-ins for WMP installed, remove these to prevent conflicts.

If the FLAC files were already in your library before you installed WMP Tag Plus, the files need to be re-added to let the plug-in read the tags. Did you do this? To re-add the files, select them, right-click, choose Delete, Delete from library only, and click OK. Then, press F3 in WMP, make sure "Add files previously deleted from library" is checked, and click OK.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: RonM on 15 February, 2010, 05:18:29 PM
Ah, yes, great to be a newbie!

Indeed, I needed to "turn on" WMP Tag, by checking it in the tools menu -- installed but not active.  I also hadn't realized that I needed to delete items from the library and rescan to get the tags seen.

I was able to add tags to items using WMP itself -- it could see and play the flac titles, but there were no tags, but when I added them manually using WMP the tags stuck.  How does that work if WMP Tag was turned off?

I encountered an error at one point, apparently corrupted MP3 files (downloaded from eMusic), and when I tried to play from WMP the app crashed.  Upon restart it had disabled plugins -- my only plug in being WMP Tag. 

For some reason, WMP doesn't seem to pick up album art when it is embedded in the individual files via MP3Tag.  I can add manually within WMP, but I did that once today with several titles, and upon restart the art had gone -- perhaps that is because I hadn't closed WMP normally (this was when it crashed).  However, I don't understand why the album art is not being picked up in the first place, it IS there.

Thanks guys!

Ron
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 16 February, 2010, 10:06:04 AM
I was able to add tags to items using WMP itself -- it could see and play the flac titles, but there were no tags, but when I added them manually using WMP the tags stuck.  How does that work if WMP Tag was turned off?

That's just how the WMP library works; WMP will always allow you to edit tags of non-recognized formats, even if WMP Tag Plus is turned off. However, these changes will only be saved to the library and not to the actual music files. Also, you would probably lose the changes the next time you scan your music folders with F3.

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For some reason, WMP doesn't seem to pick up album art when it is embedded in the individual files via MP3Tag.  I can add manually within WMP, but I did that once today with several titles, and upon restart the art had gone -- perhaps that is because I hadn't closed WMP normally (this was when it crashed).  However, I don't understand why the album art is not being picked up in the first place, it IS there.

Are these FLAC files too, and are you using the Advanced Tag Editor for this? WMP Tag Plus doesn't support embedded album art yet (either reading or writing). This is something that might be added in a future version.

Instead of using the Advanced Tag Editor for adding album art, you could copy/paste the pictures to the WMP library ("Paste Art Here" in Album view). This won't embed the art, but will add them as separate JPG files in the album folder.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: wigster on 23 February, 2010, 10:35:01 AM
Hi Tim,

Thanks for this great little utility!

I am just wondering whether adding the option of replacing WMP's MP3 support would be something that would be easy to implement, since TagLib seems to have the support for ID3 tags:

Windows 7 has a major bug in its tagging of MP3s causing it to corrupt the content of all of the TXXX tags when updating any of the other tags through either WMP12 or Explorer (see  here (http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w7itpromedia/thread/35817969-0505-4257-b462-e9471b7a6d49) for example). Microsoft doesn't seem to be doing anything to fix this, in the meantime, I keep losing all my ReplayGain information every time I update anything though the WMP tag editor. Having WMP Tag Plus take over the writing of the tags (and maybe quietly adding ID3 v2.4 support) would help greatly I should imagine.

Is this feasible/worthwhile in your opinion?

Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 24 February, 2010, 11:28:34 AM
Replacing WMP's MP3 tag support is an interesting suggestion, but I don't think that I will add such a feature to WMP Tag Plus, at least not in the near future. There are other features with a higher priority, such as support for embedded album art.

Moreover, it doesn't seem like a proper solution to me anyway. If WMP Tag Plus somehow gets disabled and WMP falls back to the default MP3 support, you could lose all the TXXX tags again. Also, the new MP3 support would only be used by WMP, Explorer would still be using the default support. Instead of us having to think of workarounds and patches, this really needs to be fixed at the source (Microsoft). I do realize that it could take a long time until a fix is released, if it will ever happen.

A more viable solution would probably be to replace the default MP3 property handler altogether, with something like the Taglib Property Handler (http://sourceforge.net/projects/taglibhandler/). The Taglib Property Handler currently doesn't have write support and doesn't explicitly support MP3 either, so those would have to be added first.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Bahamut2 on 26 February, 2010, 12:09:37 PM
Can someone tell me why this is not working for me? I use Windows7 x86 and WMP12.
I put flac files in the playlist and can't see the tags, i tried to install and restart the computer and still not working, what do i have to do?
I also uninstalled the other software (tag extender or something like that).

Also, APE is showing the tags and it is supposed this is only compatible with FLAC! Strange!
Why APE tags are showing and not FLAC tags?
Also can i add star rating to the FLAC and APE files?

Can someone tell me how to make this working?!?
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 26 February, 2010, 02:53:59 PM
Can someone tell me why this is not working for me? I use Windows7 x86 and WMP12.
I put flac files in the playlist and can't see the tags, i tried to install and restart the computer and still not working, what do i have to do?

Are you sure that WMP Tag Plus is loaded in WMP? The plug-in should be listed in the Tools - Plug-ins menu, and should have a checkmark next to it.

Are the FLAC files in WMP's music library? If they were already in the library before you installed WMP Tag Plus, the files need to be removed from the library and then re-added to let the plug-in read the tags. Select the files, right-click, choose Delete, Delete from library only, and click OK. Then re-add the files, by using Tools - Advanced - Restore deleted library items.

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Also, APE is showing the tags and it is supposed this is only compatible with FLAC! Strange!
Why APE tags are showing and not FLAC tags?

WMP Tag Plus doesn't support APE (Monkey's Audio), so the tags must have been read by the other tag support plug-in you had installed. The tags keep being stored in the library, even after removing that plug-in (but they could disappear after a while).

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Also can i add star rating to the FLAC and APE files?

Sure, just as you would rate any other file in the library. This isn't really related to WMP Tag Plus, because the rating isn't stored in the actual files, only in the library.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Bahamut2 on 26 February, 2010, 09:11:53 PM
Can someone tell me why this is not working for me? I use Windows7 x86 and WMP12.
I put flac files in the playlist and can't see the tags, i tried to install and restart the computer and still not working, what do i have to do?

Are you sure that WMP Tag Plus is loaded in WMP? The plug-in should be listed in the Tools - Plug-ins menu, and should have a checkmark next to it.

Are the FLAC files in WMP's music library? If they were already in the library before you installed WMP Tag Plus, the files need to be removed from the library and then re-added to let the plug-in read the tags. Select the files, right-click, choose Delete, Delete from library only, and click OK. Then re-add the files, by using Tools - Advanced - Restore deleted library items.

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Also, APE is showing the tags and it is supposed this is only compatible with FLAC! Strange!
Why APE tags are showing and not FLAC tags?

WMP Tag Plus doesn't support APE (Monkey's Audio), so the tags must have been read by the other tag support plug-in you had installed. The tags keep being stored in the library, even after removing that plug-in (but they could disappear after a while).

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Also can i add star rating to the FLAC and APE files?

Sure, just as you would rate any other file in the library. This isn't really related to WMP Tag Plus, because the rating isn't stored in the actual files, only in the library.


Thanks for the quick reply!! It works now! I had to delete and readd the files  Thanks

When is going to be APE support? Because i have some ape files and i think it would be nice too!
I don't like using 2 plugins at the same time, it could be incompatible...

And about the star ratting, why is it not saved on the file? Isn't it supposed to be compatible with Tag writting support for FLAC files? So i have to do it with "external" tools?
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 27 February, 2010, 11:26:02 AM
When is going to be APE support?

Support for the APE (Monkey's Audio) format will likely be included in the next major version of WMP Tag Plus. As I'm currently working on other things, this new version will definitely not be released any sooner than next summer. It's still possible that there will be APE support quicker than that, because the Tag Support API for WMP Tag Plus is documented online, and this allows other developers to write their own support for new formats.

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And about the star ratting, why is it not saved on the file? Isn't it supposed to be compatible with Tag writting support for FLAC files? So i have to do it with "external" tools?

I don't really see why you want the star rating stored in the files. Ratings are personal information, specific to a single user, and should only be stored in the user's library. Besides that, there isn't any standard FLAC tag for storing the rating. What's wrong with simply using WMP to rate the files, and let it store the ratings in the library only?
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: mondowgs on 27 February, 2010, 09:31:31 PM
Hi guys. I'm new here. I just created an account here just to say THANK YOU VERY MUCH TIM! Your work is perfect!

As I started using WMP Tag Plus + Xiph Org Codec, WMP12 works perfectly with my collection of flac. Seek bar is working now, track time is displaying properly, also i notice the small graphic equalizer display in the lower right of wmp12 is working smoothly (Its not lagging anymore). Also Flac tagging has been saving properly in every track or album (It saves the correct tag including the composers). WMP Tag Plus is really an awesome plugin! I never had any trouble now in my flacs with wmp12 after using your plugin. Again thank you very much Tim. More power to you.

P.S.
    I'm waiting for your release that support album art.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Bahamut2 on 28 February, 2010, 11:15:37 AM
Hello again.
about the star rating... the problem is that i dont want to loose the tags when i reformat my computer and i dont know of any software capable of backup this, but anyway i preffer having the star ratings stored niithe file because my library is only my library and the ratings are my own personal ratings, that doesn't means i have to share my songs with other people, and if i share them, they can re-rate the files so there is no problem, and it's for comodity, i really preferto do this, and all my library (mp3 files) israted inside the file (i think WMP saves the star rating insidethe file)

its just for comodity. also i tried to open a flac file with mp3tag software and it lets me rate the file with star rating bu i didin't try to save the fiel so i don't know if it really works, i will try it tomorrow.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 28 February, 2010, 12:52:20 PM
I'm aware that WMP can save the rating to MP3 files, but this seems to be an exception, I don't think that there are many other media players that do this. However, it looks like the next Winamp version will be able to save ratings to MP3, and possibly other formats.

I will look into adding this feature to the next major WMP Tag Plus version, but I'm still not completely certain. There's a 'de facto' rating tag for FLAC and Vorbis, but not for the other formats (that I know of).

In the meantime, you can use the Metadata Backup (http://www.dalepreston.com/Blog/2007/03/windows-media-player-metadata-backup.html) tool to create a backup of all the library information, including ratings.

@mondowgs Thanks, good to hear that you like the plug-in
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Bahamut2 on 28 February, 2010, 07:02:51 PM
Thanks for that soft, i will try it.
I also tried rating the FLAC files with "Tag & Rename" and it is stored correctly, but not displayed in WMP12 with your plugin, at least the tag is saved correctly with external taggers.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: teohhanhui on 03 March, 2010, 04:07:38 PM
I've noticed yet another downside to using WMP12's default MPEG4 handler. WMP's volume leveling does not work for .m4a files. I presume WMP Tag Plus has allowed it to work with the other formats.

(Is there a ReplayGain plugin for WMP? I would gladly switch.)
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 04 March, 2010, 06:09:14 AM
Actually, the current WMP Tag Plus version doesn't support WMP's volume levelling tags either.

A ReplayGain plug-in for WMP doesn't exist yet, but I might look into writing one myself, if there are enough requests for it.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: teohhanhui on 04 March, 2010, 10:01:27 AM
Actually, the current WMP Tag Plus version doesn't support WMP's volume levelling tags either.

A ReplayGain plug-in for WMP doesn't exist yet, but I might look into writing one myself, if there are enough requests for it.

So WMP must be misreporting "volume leveling applied to current media" for FLAC files. I still stick to WMP despite all the problems as I have yet to find a replacement that meets my needs.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: GHammer on 04 March, 2010, 10:07:59 AM
Actually, the current WMP Tag Plus version doesn't support WMP's volume levelling tags either.

A ReplayGain plug-in for WMP doesn't exist yet, but I might look into writing one myself, if there are enough requests for it.


That would be great.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: zafer on 07 March, 2010, 11:55:12 AM
Hello Tim, Hello Everybody
First of all, thanks for providing serious software and solutions for us, and allowing us to use nice features of WMP/WMC.
I was just wondering whether you plan to add musepack support (it uses ape tag format).

Is it supposed to be taken into account along zith t he ape support you re planning in future ?
Thanks for all mate.
Zafer
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 07 March, 2010, 03:56:04 PM
Musepack support might be added too, but I'm not sure of it, so I can't promise anything. The main problem is that TagLib does support Musepack, but not Monkey's Audio, and that I would really like to have one single handler for APE tags. It would be ideal if there was a library that supports both formats, but that doesn't seem to exist, unfortunately.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: zafer on 12 March, 2010, 01:31:25 PM
Musepack support might be added too, but I'm not sure of it, so I can't promise anything. The main problem is that TagLib does support Musepack, but not Monkey's Audio, and that I would really like to have one single handler for APE tags. It would be ideal if there was a library that supports both formats, but that doesn't seem to exist, unfortunately.


I understand, indeed, it's preferable and cleaner to have one single handler. Anyway, whaterver you decide, thanks for all the effors mate
Huge Regards...
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: writeoff on 15 March, 2010, 06:51:24 AM
Hello Tim, Hello everybody,

first of all, I would like to thank you for this excellent Tool and te great work you are doing.

If the problem I'm going to describe should be discussed in a different thread, please let me know where to go to (not to hell I hope  ).

1. I want to stream my collection of m4a-files from my PC (XP SP3, WMP 11, iTunes 7) via LAN to a Denon 4310 A/V-Receiver.
2. The receiver does not detect files directly from iTunes, so it seems I have to use WMP. Following the Denon manual, only WMP Network Sharing Service and Windows Media DRM10 are accepted as streaming formats.
3. With the Orban AAC/AAC Plus-Plugin WMP now plays m4a w/o problem.
4. With WMP Tag Plus WMP can load m4a-files correctly into the library w/o problem.

The A/V-Receiver finds the media server and all the files, playlists and tags. It plays the few mp3-files I have (so there is not a firewall problem, as the stream is working), but when I select an m4a-file, it reports a file format error.
When I copy the same file to a USB stick and connect the stick directly to the receiver, the files are read w/o any problem.
When I play the same file from the disk using WMP on my PC, it works as well w/o problem.

Is this something, I can sort out with the settings of WMP Tag Plus, or do I need anything else.

I would rather avoid to convert all my files to mp3 and hope to find a better solution. This could either be a way to get the m4a-stream working in WMP or alternatively to establish a stream directly via iTunes.

Thank You






Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 15 March, 2010, 02:36:32 PM
WMP Tag Plus was only written with basic library usage in mind, and hasn't been tested with 'extras' such as streaming or syncing. Furthermore, because I personally have never streamed music from my PC, I don't have an idea of what could be the problem. If the problem lies with WMP Tag Plus, then I'm afraid that it will be practically impossible for me to fix it, as there isn't any way for me to reproduce the issue without a media receiver.

One thing you could try is temporarily disabling WMP Tag Plus, and checking if the receiver is able to play M4A files then.

Perhaps there are other people on this forum who know more about streaming, and will be able to help you better than I can. If there's a support forum on the Denon website, I suggest that you post this problem there as well.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: evlo on 10 April, 2010, 05:44:01 PM
Hello,

everytime i start wmp (x64) dialog for wmp tag configuration appears, how to fix it?
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 11 April, 2010, 08:56:44 AM
Which version of WMP on which version of Windows? With "x64", do you mean that it's a 64-bit version of Windows? WMP Tag Plus isn't compatible with the x64 version of WMP, so it's impossible that you would see the plug-in there.

The simple workaround would be to launch Regedit, navigate to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\MediaPlayer\UIPlugins\{5FA68D2D-062E-4C61-856D-53B388F9FA16}, and change the Capabilities value to "c0000001".

However, this workaround won't fix the underlying problem. If the settings dialog keeps appearing at WMP startup, then this usually means that there's a problem with the registry, and that WMP is unable to write things to it. Does this happen with other WMP plug-ins as well?
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: evlo on 11 April, 2010, 09:15:07 AM
I see it in wmp 12, but you are right, it is only in 32bit version, but it allways pop up when i use windows media center (which use only x64 wmp), weird.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: lanamelach on 14 April, 2010, 10:43:12 AM
Hi there, I use WMP Tag Plus to add FLAC tag support to Windows Media Player. Generally it works fine, but there is a little problem with FLAC tracks grouping. For MP3 files player supports 2 tags: album artist and contributing artist. It comes in handy when the album is a compilation of tracks of different artists, so it is possible to group tracks of the same compilation by the means of album artist tag. I don't know whether it is caused by plugin or the player itself, but FLAC tracks are only grouped in the list of albums:
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When I open a compilation album I'll see the list of separate tracks:
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I think it is because on this page WMP uses a contributing artist tag instead of album artist tag (that is usually used for grouping).

At the same time when the album is not a compilation (album artist is the same as contributing artist) tracks are grouped normally:
(https://hydrogenaud.io/imgcache.php?id=fd24086e26416222ecc68b9a40b2b3da" rel="cached" data-warn="External image, click to view at original size" data-url="http://cs10029.vk.com/u14700666/51565249/x_01c35da8.jpg)

Is it possible to "teach" WMP to group a compilation? (I use Mp3tag v2.44 to set tags)
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 14 April, 2010, 02:13:55 PM
I see it in wmp 12, but you are right, it is only in 32bit version, but it allways pop up when i use windows media center (which use only x64 wmp), weird.

I have been able to reproduce this on my own Windows 7 system, thanks for the report. I will try to fix it in the next WMP Tag Plus release. In the meantime, you can work around it by making the registry change I suggested in my previous post.

Hi there, I use WMP Tag Plus to add FLAC tag support to Windows Media Player. Generally it works fine, but there is a little problem with FLAC tracks grouping. For MP3 files player supports 2 tags: album artist and contributing artist. It comes in handy when the album is a compilation of tracks of different artists, so it is possible to group tracks of the same compilation by the means of album artist tag. I don't know whether it is caused by plugin or the player itself, but FLAC tracks are only grouped in the list of albums:

Good find, it looks like WMP 12 shows all tracks of an album separately if the tracks don't have an Album artist set (in that case, the Album Artist column will show the same value as the Contributing artist column). WMP 11 didn't do this yet. As the issue occurs with MP3 files too, it's probably not directly related to WMP Tag Plus. It can be worked around by setting the same Album artist for all the tracks of the album, or by switching to Details view, in which WMP won't show the tracks separately.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: lanamelach on 15 April, 2010, 01:55:57 AM
Good find, it looks like WMP 12 shows all tracks of an album separately if the tracks don't have an Album artist set (in that case, the Album Artist column will show the same value as the Contributing artist column). WMP 11 didn't do this yet. As the issue occurs with MP3 files too, it's probably not directly related to WMP Tag Plus. It can be worked around by setting the same Album artist for all the tracks of the album, or by switching to Details view, in which WMP won't show the tracks separately.

These tracks already have the Album artist tag set to the same artist (but they differ by the contributing artist tags). I care about this problem not only because the list has bad looking, but also because it complicates the search: usually I can see all the albums of the same artist, but in such a case the compilation albums are not treated as the albums of that artist (because each track is treated as the track of contributing artist) and, consequently, they are not displayed in the list.

As the issue occurs with MP3 files too, it's probably not directly related to WMP Tag Plus.

I tag my mp3 in the same way as my flac files, but mp3 compilations are grouped as they should be, but flac files aren't.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 15 April, 2010, 12:02:57 PM
It seems that Mp3tag by default writes Album artist in the BAND field. WMP Tag Plus only reads the ALBUMARTIST (or ALBUM ARTIST) field, so that's probably the problem here. I guess that you don't see the Album artist that you set with Mp3tag reflected in the WMP library? Try setting the Album artist directly in the library, that should give the desired result.

You can use an Mp3tag "action" to batch convert all BAND fields to ALBUMARTIST, and you can also remap its Album artist to the ALBUMARTIST field, more information at http://forums.mp3tag.de/index.php?showtopic=9646 (http://forums.mp3tag.de/index.php?showtopic=9646) and http://forums.mp3tag.de/index.php?showtopic=8705 (http://forums.mp3tag.de/index.php?showtopic=8705).
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: lanamelach on 16 April, 2010, 03:44:46 AM
Thank you, it helped.
There remains the only to add Album Art support to make flac library as convenient as mp3 or wma.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: misterdan on 21 April, 2010, 12:20:40 AM
I'm having a problem with WMP Tag Plus... the seek bar on WMP does not show up
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As you can see in the above image, WMP is 3 minutes into the song and the seek bar is at the start position. Trying to click on any seek position starts the song at zero.

Is this a known problem?

Win 7 Pro, 32bit with madFlac.

Edit To be more specific: if I play the file from "library -> music -> artist -> NAME" and double click on the song, that is what happens. Non flac files work just fine with this method.

If I play the file from an automatic playlist, "Library -> playlists -> NAME" and then double click on the song, the playlist appears in the play tab, playing the flac file with the seek bar working just fine
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: teohhanhui on 21 April, 2010, 01:14:20 AM
I'm having a problem with WMP Tag Plus... the seek bar on WMP does not show up
(https://hydrogenaud.io/imgcache.php?id=5be18843ffb9cd0665c3068b46acdd25" rel="cached" data-warn="External image, click to view at original size" data-url="http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/6520/77612749.png)

As you can see in the above image, WMP is 3 minutes into the song and the seek bar is at the start position. Trying to click on any seek position starts the song at zero.

Is this a known problem?

Win 7 Pro, 32bit with madFlac.

Edit To be more specific: if I play the file from "library -> music -> artist -> NAME" and double click on the song, that is what happens. Non flac files work just fine with this method.

If I play the file from an automatic playlist, "Library -> playlists -> NAME" and then double click on the song, the playlist appears in the play tab, playing the flac file with the seek bar working just fine

Use Xiph.Org's DirectShow filters: http://xiph.org/dshow/ (http://xiph.org/dshow/)

madFLAC is known to be problematic.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: misterdan on 21 April, 2010, 09:08:47 AM
I'm having a problem with WMP Tag Plus... the seek bar on WMP does not show up
(https://hydrogenaud.io/imgcache.php?id=5be18843ffb9cd0665c3068b46acdd25" rel="cached" data-warn="External image, click to view at original size" data-url="http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/6520/77612749.png)

As you can see in the above image, WMP is 3 minutes into the song and the seek bar is at the start position. Trying to click on any seek position starts the song at zero.

Is this a known problem?

Win 7 Pro, 32bit with madFlac.

Edit To be more specific: if I play the file from "library -> music -> artist -> NAME" and double click on the song, that is what happens. Non flac files work just fine with this method.

If I play the file from an automatic playlist, "Library -> playlists -> NAME" and then double click on the song, the playlist appears in the play tab, playing the flac file with the seek bar working just fine

Use Xiph.Org's DirectShow filters: http://xiph.org/dshow/ (http://xiph.org/dshow/)

madFLAC is known to be problematic.


I uninstalled madFlac, and when I was installing Xiph.Org's filters I realized it was already installed. re-installed to make sure there would be no problems... but I'm having the same problem as before
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: misterdan on 21 April, 2010, 06:17:58 PM
does the current version support windows media center?
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 23 April, 2010, 02:23:30 PM
I uninstalled madFlac, and when I was installing Xiph.Org's filters I realized it was already installed. re-installed to make sure there would be no problems... but I'm having the same problem as before

Not being able to seek is indeed a known problem with madFLAC, but I've only seen it happen on 64-bit systems. Are you sure that this is a 32-bit version of Windows 7?

For seeking to work correctly, the FLAC files need to have their length set in the library as well (just like in this screenshot (http://bmproductions.fixnum.org/wmptagplus/images/wmp_annotated.png)). Is this the case?

Make sure that madFLAC is completely uninstalled. Do a full system search for "madflac.ax", and if the file is still found, unregister it with the following command:

regsvr32 /u madflac.ax

Then, download the 32-bit installer from http://xiph.org/dshow (http://xiph.org/dshow) and run it. Reboot, and try to play the FLAC files again.

does the current version support windows media center?

Not directly; WMP Tag Plus doesn't run in Windows Media Center. However, Media Center uses exactly the same library as WMP, so it will show and play FLAC, OGG etc. files too, if WMP Tag Plus and the required DirectShow filters are installed.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: misterdan on 29 April, 2010, 12:41:00 PM
Not being able to seek is indeed a known problem with madFLAC, but I've only seen it happen on 64-bit systems. Are you sure that this is a 32-bit version of Windows 7?

100% positive. Win 7 pro 32 bit (MSDNAA version). also checked to see if I have madFLAC, via registry and search- nothing


For seeking to work correctly, the FLAC files need to have their length set in the library as well (just like in this screenshot (http://bmproductions.fixnum.org/wmptagplus/images/wmp_annotated.png)). Is this the case?

you have to manually set the length? length shows up in the autoplaylists but not in the library->music -> [section]

very weird that things work perfectly in the auto playlists but not in the normal library section
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 29 April, 2010, 07:22:39 PM
No, I meant that the length of the FLAC files should have been set by WMP. If this isn't the case, then you need to re-add them to the library. Make sure that WMP Tag Plus is still enabled, select the FLAC files, right-click, select Delete, Delete from library only, and click OK. Then go to Tools - Advanced and select Restore deleted library items.

When the files are re-added, their length should now be visible in the Music section as well, and they should be seekable when playing.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Pedrozo on 03 May, 2010, 10:26:36 AM
I have a question. Is it possible to rewind songs (FLAC, ape, ogg) in wmp12? When I try rewind an error pops up, and wmp12 turn off.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Fandango on 03 May, 2010, 02:43:54 PM
Maybe your tape deck is broken?

Seriously a little bit more information would be helpful. Waht exactly do you mean? Seeking to the beginning of a track or just seeking back a few seconds?

Anyway I have no idea why WMP12 shouldn't be able to do that... faulty DirectShow Filters for those formats maybe? Then it's probably not WMP's fault but of whoever created the FLAC/APE/Vorbis decoder filters.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Pedrozo on 03 May, 2010, 03:23:02 PM
Maybe your tape deck is broken?

Seriously a little bit more information would be helpful. Waht exactly do you mean? Seeking to the beginning of a track or just seeking back a few seconds?

Anyway I have no idea why WMP12 shouldn't be able to do that... faulty DirectShow Filters for those formats maybe? Then it's probably not WMP's fault but of whoever created the FLAC/APE/Vorbis decoder filters.

More info:
System: Win7 x64
Player: WMP12 x32
Instaled codeks: Xiph.org  0.82.16930 64-bit
                        Red Light APE Directshow filter
WMP Plugins: WMP Tag Plus 1.2
                    Tag Support Plugin for Media Player

For example, if I play the FLAC file, the music going normal. But when I want scroll to 2:00 (for example), Then the player starts play from 0:00 again.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 04 May, 2010, 04:58:19 AM
The symptoms you describe in your second post are totally different from the one in the first. What happened to the error in your first post?

Rewinding (seeking) FLAC and Vorbis in WMP is possible, but for it to work, the songs need to have their length set in the library (just like in this screenshot (http://bmproductions.fixnum.org/wmptagplus/images/wmp_annotated.png)). Is this the case? If not, you need to re-add the songs to the library. Make sure that WMP Tag Plus is still enabled, select the songs, right-click, select Delete, Delete from library only, and click OK. Then go to Tools - Advanced and select Restore deleted library items.

WMP Tag Plus currently doesn't support the APE (Monkey's Audio) format, so seeking such files in WMP isn't possible yet.

By the way, it looks like "Tag Support Plugin for Media Player" is another tag support plug-in that you have installed. I recommend that you remove this one, to prevent conflicts with WMP Tag Plus.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Pedrozo on 04 May, 2010, 07:01:05 AM
Re-add tracks to the library solved the problem. Thank you.
When will start work on the Ape in WMP Tag Plus plug-in?
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 04 May, 2010, 02:10:04 PM
Glad to hear that the problem is solved. Work on APE tag support will probably start after the summer, although I can't promise anything. You might not even have to wait that long; the WMP Tag Plus Tag Support API is documented online (http://bmproductions.fixnum.org/wiki/Tag_Support_API), so any developer that is interested could write the APE support himself.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: exponent on 08 May, 2010, 04:56:27 AM
Is there support for album art in WMP Tag Plus. It seems to be th lastr piece in thye puzzle for me.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 08 May, 2010, 12:09:21 PM
WMP Tag Plus currently doesn't support album art. This will be added in the next major version, which will probably be released this autumn.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: John Lockwood on 12 May, 2010, 12:40:42 PM
I have WMP12 in Windows 7 (32bit) successfully playing AAC and Apple Lossless tracks, however WMP is adding Apple Lossless tracks to "Other Media" and AAC tracks correctly to the Music section.

I tried installing WMP Tag Plus 1.2 and removing and re-adding the Apple Lossless tracks, but they still keep showing up in Other Media.

Help!

PS. As a suggested feature, could you add an option to prevent WMP from writing to tags. Historically, WMP has a bad habit of either corrupting files, or putting bad data in files. I use iTunes to manage the tags.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 13 May, 2010, 10:45:06 AM
That's a known bug in WMP 12: lossless M4A tracks are always added to Other Media, regardless of whether WMP Tag Plus is installed (for example, see this thread (http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w7itpromedia/thread/92e4b9c4-2c59-47d0-a27d-76ef06b843bd) at the Windows 7 Media forum). I'll see if I can work around it for the next major version of WMP Tag Plus, probably by replacing Windows 7's built-in MPEG-4 tag support with that of WMP Tag Plus.

I'm not sure if allowing to disable the writing of tags is really worth adding. Corrupting files is pretty unlikely, as it's not WMP that is actually writing the tags to file. Also, most automatic changes by WMP can be prevented by unchecking "Retrieve additional information from the Internet" in WMP's Options.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: ThCam on 14 May, 2010, 03:53:26 AM
Hi,

I have WMP12 (on Windows 7 x64) showing up most of my flac files correctly using WMP Tag Plus 1.2. However WMP does a mess showing up different albums with same name, but different artists.
For example I have an album named "Greatest Hits" of artist "Bruce Springsteen", and an album named "Greatest Hits" of artist "Foo Fighters". When I change to album-view in WMP, WMP will show up both albums, which is correct. But when I double click on one of theses albums, WMP will show the tracks of both albums, which is wrong. I'm not sure what causes the problem.

- is it a problem with my tags? I only set artist tag and album tag
- is it a bug of WMP12?
- is it a bug of WMP tag plus?

Thank you for your help.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 14 May, 2010, 04:43:02 PM
What's the Album Artist of the FLAC tracks? If the Album Artist column isn't visible, right-click a column header in the WMP library and select Choose columns to enable it. You may need to switch to Details view as well, by clicking the little arrow next to the Search field.

With what program were the FLAC files originally tagged? Could you please post a screenshot of WMP that shows what's wrong?
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: ThCam on 15 May, 2010, 01:26:51 AM
Ok, I found out what was wrong. I didn't set the albumartist tag. Now it works fine. So, do I always have to set both the artist and albumartist tag? I know that it is necessary for compilations, but I didn't know that it is necessary for albums.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 15 May, 2010, 06:57:56 AM
Yes, if you don't set Album Artist, and you have two albums with the same name, but of a different artist, WMP will show both albums as one single album.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: John Lockwood on 17 May, 2010, 07:36:08 AM
That's a known bug in WMP 12: lossless M4A tracks are always added to Other Media, regardless of whether WMP Tag Plus is installed (for example, see this thread (http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w7itpromedia/thread/92e4b9c4-2c59-47d0-a27d-76ef06b843bd) at the Windows 7 Media forum). I'll see if I can work around it for the next major version of WMP Tag Plus, probably by replacing Windows 7's built-in MPEG-4 tag support with that of WMP Tag Plus.

I'm not sure if allowing to disable the writing of tags is really worth adding. Corrupting files is pretty unlikely, as it's not WMP that is actually writing the tags to file. Also, most automatic changes by WMP can be prevented by unchecking "Retrieve additional information from the Internet" in WMP's Options.


Thank you for the response. I really hope you can fix this as you can see from that other thread a lot of people have chosen Apple Lossless as the lossless format with best Mac/PC/iPod compatibility.

If you PM me at the appropriate point, I am happy to test this for you.

PS. I was the person who came up with the original solution for playing Apple Lossless in WMP and the first person in the world to do this, with the code being written by Milenko Mitrovic.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: zeoh on 21 May, 2010, 06:54:36 AM
I am also for album cover and rating support. I really hope you could include it in the future update of this wonderful plugin. Actually, it is the organisation of the library and system of rating why I still use WMP. Otherwise I would use some other program.

Btw I have a guestion, it's just a little thing:

(https://hydrogenaud.io/imgcache.php?id=3367899d725ecb8bc2bf6c156d157768" rel="cached" data-warn="External image, click to view at original size" data-url="http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/2964/imagecrc.jpg)

As you see on the picture WMP puts a group of files of the same album and album artist together (eventhough they are of diferent artists).
But it doesn't do that with the Flac files even they have the same tags (I use Mp3tag to write tags). So they are all over the place.

I assume this support is also not included in plugin. Would you consider supporting this feature in your future versions of plugin?

Thank you very much for a great job you're doing.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: RcK17 on 21 May, 2010, 09:45:44 AM
As you see on the picture WMP puts a group of files of the same album and album artist together (eventhough they are of diferent artists).
But it doesn't do that with the Flac files even they have the same tags (I use Mp3tag to write tags). So they are all over the place.

The FLAC album seems to be missing the 'AlbumArtist' tag, it is required for albums where there are different artists for songs.

I am also for album cover and rating support.

For album covers, you can add a 'folder.jpg' file in the album folder and it will be displayed in the library (not for now playing tracks though).
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: teohhanhui on 21 May, 2010, 11:42:08 AM
For album covers, you can add a 'folder.jpg' file in the album folder and it will be displayed in the library (not for now playing tracks though).

No, it is displayed for the now playing track as well.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: zeoh on 21 May, 2010, 11:54:44 AM
The FLAC album seems to be missing the 'AlbumArtist' tag, it is required for albums where there are different artists for songs.

I checked all the files. All the same. They all have albumartist tag, but it seems WMP doesn't read it.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 21 May, 2010, 02:04:25 PM
As you are also using Mp3tag, this is likely the same problem that lanamelach had here (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=75123&view=findpost&p=700617). It is caused by the fact that Mp3tag uses a different field for Album Artist in FLAC files than WMP Tag Plus. I posted a solution here (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=75123&view=findpost&p=700849), hopefully it will work for you as well.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: RcK17 on 21 May, 2010, 02:24:42 PM
For album covers, you can add a 'folder.jpg' file in the album folder and it will be displayed in the library (not for now playing tracks though).

No, it is displayed for the now playing track as well.


For me, the folder.jpg is not displayed for the now playing track (screenshot (http://www.ipix.lt/images/86602657.jpg)). May there be something I'm doing wrong?
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: zeoh on 21 May, 2010, 07:31:46 PM
As you are also using Mp3tag, this is likely the same problem that lanamelach had here (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=75123&view=findpost&p=700617). It is caused by the fact that Mp3tag uses a different field for Album Artist in FLAC files than WMP Tag Plus. I posted a solution here (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=75123&view=findpost&p=700849), hopefully it will work for you as well.

Yeah. This is it. Thank you for your help.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 22 May, 2010, 10:43:29 AM
For me, the folder.jpg is not displayed for the now playing track (screenshot (http://www.ipix.lt/images/86602657.jpg)). May there be something I'm doing wrong?

I think that this is because WMP Tag Plus doesn't support embedded album art yet. Once this support has been added, WMP should show album art for the now playing track too. I can't really tell why it is working for teohhanhui, perhaps he is using WMP 11?
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: teohhanhui on 22 May, 2010, 10:50:40 PM
For me, the folder.jpg is not displayed for the now playing track (screenshot (http://www.ipix.lt/images/86602657.jpg)). May there be something I'm doing wrong?

I think that this is because WMP Tag Plus doesn't support embedded album art yet. Once this support has been added, WMP should show album art for the now playing track too. I can't really tell why it is working for teohhanhui, perhaps he is using WMP 11?

I'm using WMP 12 and folder.jpg is displayed for album covers as well as the now playing track.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: phemistokl on 28 May, 2010, 01:57:33 PM
Hello, everybody!

I'd like to thank Tim, the author of this usefull plugin for WMP. Though I enjoy fb2k and use it everyday, my girlfriend dislikes it and prefers WMP. One of the reason is that there are no official localisations for fb2k. Since large part of our medialibrary consists of FLAC and AAC files there was a problem with WMP. And now with this plugin it is gone.

Certainly, it is not all. I have some difficulties...

First problem I solved myself. May be it will be usefull for someone. At first I used WMPTSE plugin but it didn't give me appropriate results. So I tried WMP Tag Plus but not everything was OK. Some FLAC albums and all AAC albums were not recognized even by this plugin. Then I ripped new FLAC album from CD and found that newly created album was recognized! I understood that something was wrong with WMP library (probably it was corrupted by WMPTSE plugin) and removed library file as it is written in the link at the beginning of this thread:
That doesn't really sound like it could be caused by WMP Tag Plus. Does this still happen after uninstalling my plug-in? Maybe your WMP library somehow got corrupted and needs to be rebuild (http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html#medialibrary)? (be aware that rebuilding the library will make you lose all play counts, and possibly ratings too)


Second problem is connected with MadFLAC. I found that in WMP FLAC current track time is not properly displayed (but seekbar is OK, and with AAC files everything is OK). So I decided to install DirectShow filters from xiph.org as it was said many times in the thread. I installed DirectShow filters from xiph.org and disabled MadFLAC filter (I use K-lite Codec Pack and its utility Codec Tweak Tool), but it didn't work. And its unbelievable - i tried this for a second time and everything is alright :-) The second problem is also solved. May be it was some sort of bug, etc...

Though second problem was solved during writing this post i'll add my post to the thread because in my opinion it can be usefull...

PS. My system: Windows XP SP3 (32-bit), WMP11.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 28 May, 2010, 03:27:19 PM
I think that both of your problems were caused by the fact that you didn't re-add the FLAC and AAC files to the library after installing WMP Tag Plus. This is required for files that are already in the library, to make WMP read the metadata again.

Rebuilding the library will cause WMP to read the metadata too, but it's a bit overkill. Removing the files from library and then re-adding them should work equally well.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: phemistokl on 28 May, 2010, 04:42:55 PM
Rebuilding the library will cause WMP to read the metadata too, but it's a bit overkill. Removing the files from library and then re-adding them should work equally well.

You misunderstood me in one point. The fact is that when I installed WMPTSE and tried to add my old music in FLAC and AAC I failed. So there were no FLAC music in my WMP library (as I could it see). Then I uninstalled WMPTSE and installed WMP Tag Plus. I tried to add my old FLAC music but failed again. I suppose that WMPTSE in fact indexed the files but with some errors. So these files won't displayed at the WMP window. Even after I installed WMP Tag Plus. And how can I delete files that are not displayed? Then I ripped my disc... (the rest of the story in my first message) After I had rebuilt the library everything was alright.

I think that both of your problems were caused by the fact that you didn't re-add the FLAC and AAC files to the library after installing WMP Tag Plus. This is required for files that are already in the library, to make WMP read the metadata again.

I'm sure that second problem (a bug with DirectShow filter) isn't relevant to problem with library. This problem annoyed me a little. I began to solve (installing new DS filters, disabling old) only after first had been solved. It was a bug. I need to say that my computer is old, there's a small problem with a hard drive. It can be naughty :-)
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 29 May, 2010, 08:12:37 AM
You misunderstood me in one point. The fact is that when I installed WMPTSE and tried to add my old music in FLAC and AAC I failed. So there were no FLAC music in my WMP library (as I could it see). Then I uninstalled WMPTSE and installed WMP Tag Plus. I tried to add my old FLAC music but failed again. I suppose that WMPTSE in fact indexed the files but with some errors. So these files won't displayed at the WMP window. Even after I installed WMP Tag Plus. And how can I delete files that are not displayed?

Hmm, it's possible that the FLAC and AAC files were still in the Other Media section instead of in Music. And if they really weren't in the library yet, pressing F3 in WMP (Add to Library) after WMP Tag Plus was installed, and clicking OK, should have been enough to get them in the library. Not that it really matters anymore now
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: mondowgs on 05 June, 2010, 04:18:31 AM
Hello guys! Just wanna share some pics of my WMP12 Library of my flac collection from 16/44 to 24/96 sample rate. All Album has an album art and complete proper tagging. Hope this gives help to others.

Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 05 June, 2010, 10:15:00 AM
Thank you, and nice screenshots as well

I hope to release the next major version of WMP Tag Plus, which will support album art, before the end of this year, but I can't promise anything.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: benfp on 25 June, 2010, 04:08:53 PM
Hi,

Thanks for your plugin. It does work as expected.

I have about 1500 albums tagged, with album images, AMG data, etc. It took me hours to do this, long hours.

After trying to readd a few of these 1500 albums, to get the tracks' duration (and the long awaited seeking feature without needing to add files from explorer..), I realized a good share of my flac tracks/albums tags are stored not on the files themselves but in the WMP Metadata library.
I would have been OK with losing my ratings and listening hours habitudes (two sets of data which have been stored in WMP Metadata library and seem to be lost when I remove the music from the library to readd it).. But to re-tag all these albums just to get the tracks' duration and seeking is downright crazy.

So is there any fancy way to do the following:
- Foreach Track
A/ Read all metadata from WMP Metadata library *but* its duration
B/ Read the duration with WMP Tag Plus
C/ Mix both

If there ain't, well, the plugin will certainly prove great for new albums, but useless for most of what I listen to, which has already been added to my library.

Thanks for your time and consideration :-)
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: evlo on 26 June, 2010, 06:29:48 AM
Are there any plans for x64 version? I don't like converting all flac to 320kbps mp3.

I know i can use 32 bit version of WMP on x64 win7, but i can't use 32bit verison of wmc
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: teohhanhui on 26 June, 2010, 08:24:55 AM
Are there any plans for x64 version? I don't like converting all flac to 320kbps mp3.

I know i can use 32 bit version of WMP on x64 win7, but i can't use 32bit verison of wmc

You just have to run 32-bit WMP when you add new music to let it update the music library (it is shared with WMC).
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 26 June, 2010, 12:10:39 PM
So is there any fancy way to do the following:
- Foreach Track
A/ Read all metadata from WMP Metadata library *but* its duration
B/ Read the duration with WMP Tag Plus
C/ Mix both

You can use Metadata Backup (http://www.dalepreston.com/Blog/2007/03/windows-media-player-metadata-backup.html) to back up all the existing metadata, then re-add the files to library to get their duration, and then use Metadata Backup again to restore the metadata. Before re-adding the files, check if the XML file created by Metadata Backup contains all your metadata, just in case.

Are there any plans for x64 version? I don't like converting all flac to 320kbps mp3.
I know i can use 32 bit version of WMP on x64 win7, but i can't use 32bit verison of wmc

No, there aren't any plans for this. WMP Tag Plus is a plug-in for WMP only, so it won't work in Windows Media Center anyway.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: evlo on 26 June, 2010, 12:41:52 PM
Well windows media center uses windows media player so it does work with it even now
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: benfp on 26 June, 2010, 06:05:07 PM
So is there any fancy way to do the following:
- Foreach Track
A/ Read all metadata from WMP Metadata library *but* its duration
B/ Read the duration with WMP Tag Plus
C/ Mix both

You can use Metadata Backup (http://www.dalepreston.com/Blog/2007/03/windows-media-player-metadata-backup.html) to back up all the existing metadata, then re-add the files to library to get their duration, and then use Metadata Backup again to restore the metadata. Before re-adding the files, check if the XML file created by Metadata Backup contains all your metadata, just in case.


It worked, thanks. Still I lost all album images in the process, but it's only 1500 operations to go, so that's OK to me. Two to three hours' work to know you own 317 hours of music is worth it

Thanks for the heads up.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Idolon on 01 July, 2010, 11:39:56 AM
On Windows 7 x64, WMP Tag Plus's options window sometimes pops up when I start media player, usually when I'm opening a .avi or .mkv video file.  I'm also using the CCCP (http://www.cccp-project.net/).  Is there anything I can do to keep it from coming up?
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 01 July, 2010, 04:42:02 PM
You can fix this with a simple registry edit: launch Regedit, navigate to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\MediaPlayer\UIPlugins\{5FA68D2D-062E-4C61-856D-53B388F9FA16}, and change the Capabilities value to "c0000001".

What probably happens here is that the x64 version of WMP or Windows Media Center was used. These programs reset the 'settings' of 32-bit-only plug-ins. On the next launch of the 32-bit WMP, it has 'forgotten' that the plug-in properties were already shown earlier, and shows them again.

Alternatively, you can install Windows Media Player Plus! (http://bmproductions.fixnum.org/wmpplus). The installer of this plug-in will add a patch that fixes this problem for all plug-ins, not just WMP Tag Plus.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Idolon on 01 July, 2010, 09:42:34 PM
Hmm...  That key doesn't exist on my computer.  I even did a search for the Guid and nothing came up.  None of the keys in that section have a FriendlyName that looks anything like WMP Tag Plus either. Anyways, I'm trying out WMP Plus right now.  I'll post again if that doesn't work.  Thanks!

By the way, the navigation bar on your site is acting very strangely in Opera 10.6.  It appears to be refreshing as fast as Opera can refresh it, and since that is quite fast, it becomes sort of a strobe light.    If I tell Opera to identify as Firefox, it stops, so it looks like the javascript on the frame is looking for Opera and giving it something it doesn't like.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 02 July, 2010, 09:07:56 AM
Hmm...  That key doesn't exist on my computer.  I even did a search for the Guid and nothing came up.  None of the keys in that section have a FriendlyName that looks anything like WMP Tag Plus either. Anyways, I'm trying out WMP Plus right now.  I'll post again if that doesn't work.  Thanks!

D'oh, looks like I posted the WMP Plus! registry key instead, and didn't take x64 into account, sorry. Here's the correct key: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\MediaPlayer\UIPlugins\{CBD7AB87-2A5A-4466-B31E-61D9A782D6AA}

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By the way, the navigation bar on your site is acting very strangely in Opera 10.6.  It appears to be refreshing as fast as Opera can refresh it, and since that is quite fast, it becomes sort of a strobe light.    If I tell Opera to identify as Firefox, it stops, so it looks like the javascript on the frame is looking for Opera and giving it something it doesn't like.

Thanks for pointing that out, I'll look into it. Until it is fixed, you can use the non-frames version (http://bmproductions.fixnum.org/noframes.htm) of the website.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: coldacid on 05 July, 2010, 09:34:24 PM
As you mentioned on the WMP+ thread, my request for the ability to manage video tags is more a Tag+ issue, as it is included as part of WMP+. So, I'm just crossposting to say that it'd be pretty useful to have the ability to do tag editing on videos and files that WMP sticks in "Other Media" -- especially if there's a way to move files from Other Media to the other libraries without having to delete from library and re-add (which maybe works 10% of the time anyway).

I know it'd be no small project, especially since there are different metadata requirements for video than for audio, but it'd certainly make life easier for those of us who have videos in a wide variety of container formats.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: John Lockwood on 07 July, 2010, 07:56:49 AM
Tim, have you made any progress on beating WMP12 in to submission so that your plug-in can read tags in Apple Lossless files and allow WMP12 to add Apple Lossless files correctly to the music library?

For what it's worth, I have now found that if one downgrades Windows7 to have WMP11 rather than WMP12 your plugin will of course work (since it worked with WMP11 in Vista) and WMP11 will then let you add Apple Lossless to the music library as intended.

What I have not established yet, is if Media Center in Windows7 is upset by all this, and also whether this might break support for H.264.

Obviously the preferred option would be to retain WMP12.

This page http://www.winmatrix.com/forums/index.php?...-for-windows-7/ (http://www.winmatrix.com/forums/index.php?/topic/22459-windows-media-player-11-for-windows-7/) describes how to downgrade to WMP11 - DO AT YOUR OWN RISK!
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 07 July, 2010, 09:07:32 AM
No sorry, I'm busy with Windows Media Player Plus! 2.0 at the moment. When that is finished, I'll probably start working on WMP Tag Plus 2.0, and then I'll also check if this can be worked around.

Downgrading WMP 12 on Windows 7 is pretty dangerous; I frequently see posts on WMP forums of users that have tried this and have broken their WMP installation this way. When that has happened, the only solution seems to be a full Windows reinstall. It's generally much easier and safer to install WMP 11 in Windows 7's (virtualized) XP Mode instead.

Also, Windows 7 SP1 Beta will be released soon, which means that there will be the possibility to provide feedback. I think that it will be worth trying to report this bug, to make Microsoft aware of it (sadly, this isn't the only bug with WMP 12 that needs to be reported).
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: John Lockwood on 08 July, 2010, 04:56:19 AM
No sorry, I'm busy with Windows Media Player Plus! 2.0 at the moment. When that is finished, I'll probably start working on WMP Tag Plus 2.0, and then I'll also check if this can be worked around.

Downgrading WMP 12 on Windows 7 is pretty dangerous; I frequently see posts on WMP forums of users that have tried this and have broken their WMP installation this way. When that has happened, the only solution seems to be a full Windows reinstall. It's generally much easier and safer to install WMP 11 in Windows 7's (virtualized) XP Mode instead.

Also, Windows 7 SP1 Beta will be released soon, which means that there will be the possibility to provide feedback. I think that it will be worth trying to report this bug, to make Microsoft aware of it (sadly, this isn't the only bug with WMP 12 that needs to be reported).

I agree downgrading is dangerous (I stressed this), I have only tried it on a test installation not a live system but it worked for me. Apparently you can run the WIndows7 installer to 'repair' things to restore WMP12. Unfortunately WMP11 in the XP Mode may not be suitable (I have not tried it) it depends on whether it uses a totally separate set of files for its WMP library or can use the standard Windows7 WMP library files. If it uses its own then these will not be accessible by Media Center which is my goal.

If you find a feedback link for Windows7 SP1, please let me know here as I will add my feedback to yours. (More the merrier.)
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: dogtag on 05 August, 2010, 09:20:38 AM
could you do anything with Album Image?
I really like to see Cover images in library!

thanks a lot
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 05 August, 2010, 02:09:00 PM
Support for embedded album art will be available in the next major version of WMP Tag Plus, which will probably be released in a few months. Because WMP doesn't really rely on embedded art for the album art you see in the library, you might be able to already get this, by copy-pasting the cover image to the library, or by right-clicking a track and selecting Find album info.

(I really need to write a FAQ that answers common questions like this.)
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 25 August, 2010, 03:07:33 PM
If you find a feedback link for Windows7 SP1, please let me know here as I will add my feedback to yours. (More the merrier.)

I finally found some time to install Windows 7 and SP1 Beta in a VM, and quickly confirmed that lossless M4A files are still added to Other Media (unless you work around it by changing the extension to .mp4).

Unless I missed something, it seems that the only place to post feedback is the Service Pack 1 Beta for Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2 forum (http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en/w7itproSP/threads), so that's a bit of a disappointment. Nevertheless, I'll still report it there (probably together with some other WMP bugs), as soon as I have some more time - which should be pretty soon.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: John Lockwood on 26 August, 2010, 05:09:34 AM
If you find a feedback link for Windows7 SP1, please let me know here as I will add my feedback to yours. (More the merrier.)

I finally found some time to install Windows 7 and SP1 Beta in a VM, and quickly confirmed that lossless M4A files are still added to Other Media (unless you work around it by changing the extension to .mp4).

Unless I missed something, it seems that the only place to post feedback is the Service Pack 1 Beta for Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2 forum (http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en/w7itproSP/threads), so that's a bit of a disappointment. Nevertheless, I'll still report it there (probably together with some other WMP bugs), as soon as I have some more time - which should be pretty soon.

Thank you for the update, I presume you have had no success overriding the built-in MPEG4 tagging support and replacing it with yours? Is there a DLL that could be removed so yours takes over?
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 26 August, 2010, 10:48:15 AM
I hadn't tried overriding the built-in MPEG-4 tag support yet, but have done so now. I temporarily unregistered Microsoft's MPEG-4 property handler for M4A files. Unfortunately, that didn't help: even when the tags were read by WMP Tag Plus, the lossless file was still added to Other Media. I'll have to look further into this, to see what exactly goes wrong.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: WonderCsabo on 01 October, 2010, 12:42:04 PM
Hi Tim!

First of all, many thanks for your plugins for WMP! These tools are awesome!
But i have a problem now.

On my desktop, i have no problem with WMP Tag Plus. Everything's just fine.

But not on my laptop.

I'm running Win7, WMP12. The seeking works, the length are written, but the progress bar doesnt move when i listen to a FLAC track!
And the time counter is not counting, too. But i can seek. :S
I tried to reinstall the plugin, delete and recover the items of the library, none of them helped.
I use Xiph codec only.

It's ununderstandable, because i have the same system and configuration on my desktop...
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 01 October, 2010, 02:40:41 PM
Are you sure that the Xiph codec is used for playing FLAC files on the laptop? This sounds a lot like a known issue when the madFLAC codec is used instead. Perform a search on your hard drive for the madflac.ax file. If this file is present, then madFLAC is indeed installed, and uninstalling it should fix the problem.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: WonderCsabo on 02 October, 2010, 08:06:04 AM
Hi Tim!

I was totally sure that i completely uninstalled madflac. But i didnt.
You were right! madflac.ax have been registered in my system. I unregistered it, reinstalled Xiph.org codecs, and now everything is just fine!

Thanks.

BTW, when we can expect album art tag support for FLAC in WMP Tag Plus?
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 02 October, 2010, 02:43:01 PM
Album art support is planned for the next major version of WMP Tag Plus. I hope to release this version before the end of the year, but it could be a bit later too. I'm currently still working on Windows Media Player Plus! 2.0, and this is taking longer than initially planned.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: WonderCsabo on 03 October, 2010, 03:22:30 PM
Thanks! And what are the new features of WMP Plus!?
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: benfp on 03 October, 2010, 05:43:48 PM
It worked, thanks. Still I lost all album images in the process, but it's only 1500 operations to go, so that's OK to me. Two to three hours' work to know you own 317 hours of music is worth it

Thanks for the heads up.


Hi Tim,

Actually, it is 1233 hours of music (51 days and 9 hours).

But 1500 drag & drop taking a few seconds each is actually more a PITA than I imagined.

The album art images are readily available, and what I'm doing is pretty straightforward to restore it to WMP:
Foreach album in WMP,
a) Go to the album's folder,
b) Drag the hidden "folder.jpg" file & Drop it on the album's cd case thumbnail

Is there anyway to automate this?

Obviously, WMP must be storing this information somewhere...

I'm a developper myself, so if you could hint me as to where the data is stored, I could write myself a little program to do it.

Thanks for your time and consideration.

Kind Regards,
Benjamin
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: benfp on 03 October, 2010, 06:10:43 PM
Hi Tim,

Actually, it is 1233 hours of music (51 days and 9 hours).

But 1500 drag & drop taking a few seconds each is actually more a PITA than I imagined.

The album art images are readily available, and what I'm doing is pretty straightforward to restore it to WMP:
Foreach album in WMP,
a) Go to the album's folder,
b) Drag the hidden "folder.jpg" file & Drop it on the album's cd case thumbnail

Is there anyway to automate this?

Obviously, WMP must be storing this information somewhere...

I'm a developper myself, so if you could hint me as to where the data is stored, I could write myself a little program to do it.

Thanks for your time and consideration.

Kind Regards,
Benjamin


OK, this time, I'll answer myself.

WMP being the awesome tool it is, you have to think backwards.
In order to add album art to my albums, I actually add to remove album art!
Say, for instance, I have a folder:
ABBA\The Complete Studio Recordings\Arrival
which contains
Code: [Select]
01 When I Kissed the Teacher.flac
02 Dancing Queen.flac
03 My Love, My Life.flac
04 Dum Dum Diddle.flac
05 Knowing Me, Knowing You.flac
06 Money, Money, Money.flac
07 That's Me.flac
08 Why Did It Have to Be Me.flac
09 Tiger.flac
10 Arrival.flac
11 Fernando [-].flac
12 Happy Hawaii [-].flac
13 La Reina del Baile [-].flac
14 Conociéndome, Conociéndote [-].flac
15 Fernando [Spanish Version][-].flac
(*) AlbumArt_{A3B92F5A-1A65-4A74-9498-B5815DB1E161}_Large.jpg
(*) AlbumArt_{A3B92F5A-1A65-4A74-9498-B5815DB1E161}_Small.jpg
(*) AlbumArtSmall.jpg
Arrival (flac).cue
CD.jpg
desktop.ini
Folder.jpg
Inlay.jpg
Sleeve Back.jpg
Sleeve Front.jpg


If I delete the files preceded by (*), WMP will now show up the folder.jpg image automatically.

Raw awesomeness, is it not? 
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 04 October, 2010, 07:52:12 AM
WonderCsabo: I answered your question in the WMP Plus! thread (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=80263&view=findpost&p=725443), where it belongs.

benfp: good to hear that you found the solution yourself, well done
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: MOverride on 09 November, 2010, 07:18:07 PM
Apologies if this isn't where this belongs, but I'm not sure if it's a WMP Tag Plus problem or something else... And my search-fu has been weak on this matter.

Running WMP12 x86 on Windows 7 x64. I'm trying to play ALAC files; I have WMPTP v1.2 installed, and this (http://www.dsp-worx.de/) DirectShow filter.

WMP recognizes the tags if the file extension is .mp4 or .m4a. If it's .m4a, I get "Windows Media Player encountered a problem playing this file". If it's .mp4, it tries to play the file but does nothing. Either way, it does see the tags.

I assume the problem is somewhere on the DirectShow filter end of things? Any suggestions for what other filter I should use instead, or how I can debug the one I've got?
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 10 November, 2010, 12:58:45 PM
Are you sure that these are ALAC files? You can check with the GSpot (http://www.headbands.com/gspot/) tool. Where do the files come from?

I'm pretty sure that other people have been using the same DirectShow filter to successfully play ALAC files in WMP 12. Don't the files get added to the Other Media library instead of to Music? If they really are ALAC, then they should get added to Other Media, this is a known problem with WMP 12.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: John Lockwood on 11 November, 2010, 10:12:47 AM
Apologies if this isn't where this belongs, but I'm not sure if it's a WMP Tag Plus problem or something else... And my search-fu has been weak on this matter.

Running WMP12 x86 on Windows 7 x64. I'm trying to play ALAC files; I have WMPTP v1.2 installed, and this (http://www.dsp-worx.de/) DirectShow filter.

WMP recognizes the tags if the file extension is .mp4 or .m4a. If it's .m4a, I get "Windows Media Player encountered a problem playing this file". If it's .mp4, it tries to play the file but does nothing. Either way, it does see the tags.

I assume the problem is somewhere on the DirectShow filter end of things? Any suggestions for what other filter I should use instead, or how I can debug the one I've got?


The http://www.dsp-worx.de/ (http://www.dsp-worx.de/) filter which I was partially responsible for is the basis of all the solutions for playing ALAC files in WMP. However due to the way filters work in WMP12 compared to previous versions, things are not as straight forward as they used to be. WMP12 unlike previous versions can natively play AAC files, i.e. .m4a files. It therefore has a media splitter built-in to handle these files. As ALAC files use the same file extension and file format (just a different codec) this means that the built-in splitter overrides the one from http://www.dsp-worx.de/ (http://www.dsp-worx.de/)

What you have to do is to install the http://www.dsp-worx.de/ (http://www.dsp-worx.de/) filter but also manage to disable the built-in splitter so it does not get in the way. The easiest way to do this is to install the codec pack from here http://shark007.net/win7codecs.html (http://shark007.net/win7codecs.html) which includes the http://www.dsp-worx.de/ (http://www.dsp-worx.de/) filter but the Shark pack has an option to disable the built-in .m4a support allowing the ALAC filter to take over playing both AAC and ALAC files successfully.

Plenty of people including myself have successfully got WMP12 to play both AAC and ALAC files this way, however we are all finding that while WMP12 will import AAC files properly in to the Music section of the library, ALAC files even though they play, even though the use the exact same Tag format, are instead put in the 'other' section. This seems to be a deliberate act of sabotage by Microsoft.

Please let us know if you do succeed in getting WMP12 to play ALAC files and to store them in the music section as we would like to manage this as well!
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: darkane on 20 November, 2010, 07:32:05 AM
thank you very much tim for the plugin
i was having a problem with wavpack files not seeking or showing track length although it is reading tag info correctly
i tried deleting the tracks from library and restoring them again like you suggested for flac files problem but it didnt work
please note i can use flac files perfectly with your plugin
and i am on windows 7 32 bit

and i am adding my vote to the people asking for APE support
thanks in advance
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 20 November, 2010, 11:08:52 AM
How were these WavPack files created? Would it be possible to upload one of these files through something like Yousendit (http://www.yousendit.com/), and PM me the download link? Thanks.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: PiperTheGreat on 22 November, 2010, 06:31:34 PM
Hey, i'm new here, i appear to be having trouble with this plugin. I am using this plugin to view tag information with flac files. It installs fine, and works ok, it displays tag information correctly (artist, song, etc.), but it doesn't show my files in the library. After closing windows media player and opening it later i find that the plugin no longer works any more, and it doesn't come back. As well as that, all the files have loaded into the library, but they're all loaded in one big lump when viewed in the all music section, but there is apparently no tag information for those files, and as result also don't feature in either artist, album, or any of the other sections. It can't be a problem with the tags, since they displayed at least once. Could anyone help me out?

P.S. I'm using WMP 12

Thankyou
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 22 November, 2010, 08:18:37 PM
How can you know that the tag information is displayed correctly, if the files don't get added to the library?

Please clarify "it doesn't come back". Can you still see WMP Tag Plus in the Tools - Plug-ins menu? (press Ctrl+M to bring up the Tools menu)

I suggest that you try re-adding the files to the library. Make sure that WMP Tag Plus is checked in Tools - Plug-ins, select the FLAC files, right-click, Delete - Delete from library only - OK. Then go to Tools - Advanced and select Restore deleted library items.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: cmatte on 25 November, 2010, 07:42:24 AM
Hi to all guys,
I've just installed WMP Tag Plus hoping to be finally able to play/use/have FLAC audio files in my library, correctly seen as music files, played, seen, with tag write/read ability. Well, that said, I've installed the suggested codec at http://www.xiph.org/dshow/ (http://www.xiph.org/dshow/) and installed it too.
Well, WMP Tag Plus is there in WMP plugins, it has flac enabled and seems all good because I can play flacs and see tags when I open a file.
The matter comes when I try to search for a flac file in my library, it simply isn't there even if the file played is in the main library folder. No track of any flac file is there! How does WMP Tag Plus work, so? Am I missing something?
I tried navigating in the website/forum to find out a solution or explaination but didn't find one, oh, by the way, I have Windows 7 64bit and WMP 12.0.7600.16667 and WMP Tag Plus is in the plugins, active and working.

Thanks, sorry for the noob post
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 25 November, 2010, 10:18:06 AM
Are you sure that none of the FLAC files are in the library, not even under Unknown Artist?

What's the location of the FLAC files? In WMP, click Organize, and select Manage libraries - Music. Is that location in the list there? If not, add it manually.

Perhaps the FLAC files ended up in the Other Media section of the library? If that's the case, then they need to be re-added. See my previous post for instructions on how to do this.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: cmatte on 25 November, 2010, 10:29:45 AM
Strangely the files appeared just after I dragged them (while manually opened and played) to an external device for synchronizing them with it! All Right now, Thanks anyway 
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: darkane on 26 November, 2010, 01:01:54 PM
sorry tim for being late it is been a busy week
so i signed up in yousendit.com i am gladly sending you one of my files
thanks alot for the support
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 26 November, 2010, 03:38:11 PM
Thank you for uploading the file. This seems to be a problem with TagLib, the tagging library that WMP Tag Plus uses, so I have reported this (https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=258016) at its bug tracker. That will allow the TagLib developers to take a look at it, and hopefully, they will come up with a fix.

It would also be interesting to know how exactly these WavPack files were created (by which application etc.).
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 28 November, 2010, 12:24:01 PM
Good news: the main TagLib developer, Lukas Lalinsky, has already fixed the problem. Unfortunately, I'm currently too busy with Windows Media Player Plus! 2.0 to prepare a new release of WMP Tag Plus, and to do all the required testing.

If you don't want to wait for the next WMP Tag Plus release to have this fixed, you can already download the newer version of TagLibTagSupport.dll here (edit: link removed - this fix is now included in WMP Tag Plus). Just unzip it, and replace the old version of that file with this one. Then start WMP, and re-add the WavPack files to library once more.

Note that this newer version hasn't been extensively tested, so it may still be causing other issues that I don't know about yet.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: jonnny on 30 November, 2010, 03:36:07 AM
Hi Tim,

Great work on WMP Tag Plus.

I have an issue. When I first install it, it works great, plays flac files, lists the music in WMP.

When I close WMP and re-open, the files are still listed in WMP but wont play "Windows Media Player cannot play this file"

I have re-downloaded and re-installed several times. I have rebuilt my music library. I am at a loss now.

Any ideas?

Cheers
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 30 November, 2010, 02:38:35 PM
What version of WMP and Windows? What's the full text of that error message?

Which codec do you have installed for playing FLAC files? After re-opening WMP, open the Tools - Plug-ins menu (press Ctrl+M if you don't see the Tools menu). Do you still see WMP Tag Plus listed there?
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: jonnny on 30 November, 2010, 06:35:03 PM
Sorry, I should have put this

Win7-64bit, WMP 12, i think i have the shark 007 codec installed (at work at the moment).

Like I said, it works fine when I first install TagPlus but once i close WMP and re-open, WMPTagPlus is no longer in the plugin menu and FLAC flies will not play - "Windows Media Player cannot play this file". Sorry, I cant remember the whole message, at work

Thanks
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 01 December, 2010, 11:33:01 AM
It sounds to me like you're running the (non-default) 64-bit version of WMP. WMP Tag Plus isn't compatible with this version. Likewise, you probably installed only the 32-bit version of Shark's codecs, which would explain why FLAC playback doesn't work either.

To check if this is really the case, you can start the 32-bit version of WMP, by manually running C:\Program Files (x86)\Windows Media Player\wmplayer.exe. If you do that, is WMP Tag Plus listed in the Plug-ins menu again, and does FLAC playback work correctly?
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: jonnny on 02 December, 2010, 03:11:35 AM
Hehe!

That was it! I should have been using the wmplayer.exe from ProgramFiles (x86).

Works fine even after closing now.

Thanks Tim!
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Pedrozo on 02 December, 2010, 05:32:49 AM
Does WMP Tag Plus supports the ratings in FLAC? I mean does it save STARS? When I rebuild library my mp3 saving STARS but not my FLAC files. Its normal? Thx for reply.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 02 December, 2010, 09:46:12 AM
Yes, that's normal. WMP Tag Plus doesn't save the star ratings to FLAC, or to any other format that it supports, regardless of whether Maintain my star ratings as global ratings in files is checked in WMP's Options.

This is mainly because none of the formats provide any (de facto) standard tag for storing ratings in. I might let a future version of WMP Tag Plus store the ratings in a custom field, but I'm still unsure of this. Ratings are user-specific info, and this generally shouldn't be stored in the music files. Also, I don't think that there's any media player besides WMP that does this.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Pedrozo on 02 December, 2010, 10:11:10 AM
Than you for your reply. I reading about this problem in Internet, and I see many users have same problem with saving ratings. Not only in WMP but other programs too. I think, rating option in new WMP Tag Plus in necessary. You can add option, that gives choice about "Select, if you want save global rating to your file" or something like that. Sorry for my english...
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 02 December, 2010, 03:32:41 PM
Well, I'll think about it, that's all I can say for now. The more people that request ratings to be saved to file, the more likely that this will be included in a next version.

In the meantime, you can already use the Metadata Backup (http://www.dalepreston.com/Blog/2007/03/windows-media-player-metadata-backup.html) tool to import/export WMP star ratings.

An additional WMP Tag Plus option for saving ratings wouldn't be necessary, the existing one in WMP's own options would probably work fine.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: cosmos on 02 December, 2010, 11:08:39 PM
hi,,dude,,you really did a nice work,,wmp tag plus is perfect,,i like it so much,,it works like a charm with wmp12,,now i have a little problem with wmp11 when playing flac format file,,running on windows server 2008,,it can be seekable,,but the progress bar doesn't work,and no duration,could you please correct it? thanks in advance!
i cant upload screenshot here:(,,,

Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: cosmos on 02 December, 2010, 11:15:53 PM
again,,i tried version 1.1,,the same,,and it was all fresh installation,,i really like you can solve for me,,thanks!
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: cosmos on 03 December, 2010, 12:16:26 AM
SOLVED!!    I just update my K-Lite mega codec pack to 6.5,,it works like a charm,,,,,once again,,thanks Tim for providing so nice WMP plugin,,,
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: darkane on 11 December, 2010, 08:13:24 AM
Good news: the main TagLib developer, Lukas Lalinsky, has already fixed the problem. Unfortunately, I'm currently too busy with Windows Media Player Plus! 2.0 to prepare a new release of WMP Tag Plus, and to do all the required testing.

If you don't want to wait for the next WMP Tag Plus release to have this fixed, you can already download the newer version of TagLibTagSupport.dll here (http://users.skynet.be/tim.debaets/TagLibTagSupport.zip). Just unzip it, and replace the old version of that file with this one. Then start WMP, and re-add the WavPack files to library once more.

Note that this newer version hasn't been extensively tested, so it may still be causing other issues that I don't know about yet.

thanks alot tim the dll file worked great and i dont see any issues so far for the applications used to make the WV files it appears to be
EAC0.99 from the log file included i got the following data
EXTRACTOR: EAC 0.99 Prebeta4
READ MODE: Secure with NO C2, accurate stream, disable cache
CODEC:  WavPack 4.50
SOURCE: Original CD
apparently i didnt rip it my self so i hope this data is helpful and good luck on all your projects
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: WonderCsabo on 30 December, 2010, 12:48:08 PM
Hi Tim!

What about the new release with FLAC cover support?
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 31 December, 2010, 10:01:34 AM
Truth is, I still haven't even started working on the next major release of WMP Tag Plus.

Early October, I said that I was hoping to release the new WMP Tag Plus before the end of this year. Unfortunately, due to unexpected difficulties with the development of Windows Media Player Plus! 2.0, this has been delayed by at least 6 months.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: WonderCsabo on 11 January, 2011, 12:08:07 PM
Uhh, that is very much time...  Good luck with the work!

(keep in your mind that i can help you with Hungarian l10n, if needed)
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Stone Free on 15 January, 2011, 05:28:42 PM
I'm not sure whether it is the installation of this program, or whether its a new Windows 7 feature.

I've always wanted FLAC and AAC files to show their tag information in the standard windows columns of Artist etc, but had to put up with columns such as "Audio Artist" as AudioShell seemed to be the only thing that would show FLAC tags in windows.

Is it this plugin that has solved the problem?
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 16 January, 2011, 08:43:39 AM
If you are talking about the columns in Windows Explorer, then no, WMP Tag Plus will add additional tag support to WMP only.

To get FLAC tag support in Explorer, you can install this FLAC Property Handler (http://castlemadeofsand.wordpress.com/category/flac-property-handler/). You shouldn't have to install anything for AAC, as Windows 7 already supports that format by default.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Stone Free on 16 January, 2011, 08:57:56 AM
If you are talking about the columns in Windows Explorer, then no, WMP Tag Plus will add additional tag support to WMP only.

To get FLAC tag support in Explorer, you can install this FLAC Property Handler (http://castlemadeofsand.wordpress.com/category/flac-property-handler/). You shouldn't have to install anything for AAC, as Windows 7 already supports that format by default.
Strange, I seem to have working tags in Explorer!

The only other thing I've installed is the Xiph.Org codecs.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Asuranceturix on 18 January, 2011, 09:46:18 PM
Hi, I have just installed WMP Tag Plus and it works beautifully with Windows Media Center. I want to use my classical music collection, where each track has a discrete ARTIST tag per performer (per recommendation at http://www.xiph.org/vorbis/doc/v-comment.html (http://www.xiph.org/vorbis/doc/v-comment.html) ). However, WMC only appears to be aware of the first ARTIST tag in each track. Is this the expected behaviour? Is there any way to get it to read all of them, so that a track can be found when searching for any of the participating performers? Thanks!
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 19 January, 2011, 01:52:51 PM
Yes, that's the expected behaviour. WMP Tag Plus currently doesn't support tags with multiple values, and will only read the first value of such tags. Multiple value support is something that might be added in a future version.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: jbrid on 25 January, 2011, 06:37:00 PM
Hi Tim,
Thanks for your great work on this plugin. I am trying to troubleshoot an issue and I am hoping you can help.

I have added FLAC versions of the 16 Beatles albums to my music library. WMP recognizes the tags in about half of the albums. I have tried removing them from the library and re-adding them. I have also examined the flac tags using metaflac.

This song is working
Code: [Select]
METADATA block #2
  type: 4 (VORBIS_COMMENT)
  is last: false
  length: 180
  vendor string: reference libFLAC 1.2.0 20070715
  comments: 6
    comment[0]: artist=The Beatles
    comment[1]: title=There's A Place
    comment[2]: album=Please Please Me (2009 Stereo Remaster)
    comment[3]: date=2009
    comment[4]: tracknumber=13
    comment[5]: genre=Pop


This song is not working
Code: [Select]
METADATA block #2
  type: 4 (VORBIS_COMMENT)
  is last: false
  length: 175
  vendor string: reference libFLAC 1.2.0 20070715
  comments: 6
    comment[0]: artist=The Beatles
    comment[1]: title=Love Me Do
    comment[2]: album=Please Please Me (2009 Stereo Remaster)
    comment[3]: date=2009
    comment[4]: tracknumber=08
    comment[5]: genre=Pop


Anything else I can do to troubleshoot this?

Here is my system info:

OS: Win7 Ultimate x64
WMP: 12.0.7600.16667 (I have tested the x86 and x64 versions. Both have same symptoms)
Codec Pack:Shark007 2.7.6 + x64 Component

Thanks!
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 26 January, 2011, 11:20:19 AM
WMP Tag Plus definitely won't work in the x64 version of WMP, so it's recommended that you only use the x86 version.

Do you have the latest version of WMP Tag Plus, 1.2?

Are you sure that WMP Tag Plus is loaded in WMP? The plug-in should be listed in the Tools - Plug-ins menu, and should have a checkmark next to it (press Ctrl+M if you don't see the Tools menu). If you have any other tag support plug-ins for WMP installed, remove these to prevent conflicts. After that, please try re-adding the files to the library once again.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: jbrid on 26 January, 2011, 09:30:31 PM
WMP Tag Plus definitely won't work in the x64 version of WMP, so it's recommended that you only use the x86 version.

Do you have the latest version of WMP Tag Plus, 1.2?

Are you sure that WMP Tag Plus is loaded in WMP? The plug-in should be listed in the Tools - Plug-ins menu, and should have a checkmark next to it (press Ctrl+M if you don't see the Tools menu). If you have any other tag support plug-ins for WMP installed, remove these to prevent conflicts. After that, please try re-adding the files to the library once again.


Yes, I am running Tag Plus 1.2.

Tag Plus is listed under Plugins and has a check.

I can confirm that I do not have any other tag plugins installed.

I took one of the files that is not working, Love Me Do, and did the following:


I am not sure what is happening. I need to do some more testing and get back to you. I don't have much more time tonight though, so I will have to get back into it tomorrow.

Thanks.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: jbrid on 26 January, 2011, 09:42:19 PM
OK. I added Love Me Do back into the library by drag-and-dropping it from Windows Explorer into WMP and it read the tags properly and filed it under Please Please Me. That's good news. So, I guess I could do something similar for the rest of the 'unknown' songs.

This leads me to an idea about what is causing this. Have you ever seen a limitation around the number of flac files that can be successfully added into the library at once? I think something like this happened because the songs that didn't get added to the library are all part of albums that are at the bottom half of the album list alphabetically.

Anyway, I think my issue is probably resolved.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: jbrid on 27 January, 2011, 11:40:26 AM
I think something like this happened because the songs that didn't get added to the library are all part of albums that are at the bottom half of the album list alphabetically.


Correction:

I think something like this happened because the songs that didn't get tagged properly are all part of albums that are at the bottom half of the album list alphabetically.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 27 January, 2011, 12:03:04 PM
This leads me to an idea about what is causing this. Have you ever seen a limitation around the number of flac files that can be successfully added into the library at once? I think something like this happened because the songs that didn't get added to the library are all part of albums that are at the bottom half of the album list alphabetically.

No, I'm not aware of any library limitation specific to FLAC files. As far as I know, there's just one limitation for the total number of files in the library, and that seems to be around 250 000.

The only thing I can think of, is that the FLAC files were added to the library while WMP Tag Plus was not loaded (either because it was not enabled, or because you were running the x64 version of WMP).
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: jbrid on 27 January, 2011, 02:07:21 PM
Thanks for your time, Tim. And, thanks again for the plugin.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: lifespeed on 27 January, 2011, 07:42:39 PM
Might I suggest that an x64 version of WMP Tag Plus would be very welcome?  Many of us switched some time ago, and that will only be more true as time goes on.  I'm afraid I don't know how big of an effort that would be.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 28 January, 2011, 11:08:24 AM
Do you mean "switched to Windows x64" or "switched to the x64 version of WMP"? (there's an important difference)

As I said earlier in this thread:

It would require quite a lot of work to make an x64 version of WMP Tag Plus. Besides that, it would add two more test cases, on top of Windows XP and the 32-bit versions of Windows Vista and 7. In my opinion, it really isn't worth all the trouble: the 32-bit version of WMP works just as good and just as fast as the 64-bit version.

Also, the 32-bit version of WMP is still the default version on Windows x64.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: lifespeed on 28 January, 2011, 07:58:10 PM
Do you mean "switched to Windows x64" or "switched to the x64 version of WMP"? (there's an important difference)

As I said earlier in this thread:

It would require quite a lot of work to make an x64 version of WMP Tag Plus. Besides that, it would add two more test cases, on top of Windows XP and the 32-bit versions of Windows Vista and 7. In my opinion, it really isn't worth all the trouble: the 32-bit version of WMP works just as good and just as fast as the 64-bit version.

Also, the 32-bit version of WMP is still the default version on Windows x64.


Both, I use x64 windows and x64 WMP.

I understand the effort required.  Unfortunately, this issue is not going away.  I have all the codecs setup and working for x64 WMP because Media Center is x64 only.  In order to use Media Center, I have to use x64 codecs.  Makes no sense to try and support both x86 and x64 codecs, it is enough trouble to get one set working.

So I think we have valid reason for going the x64 path.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 29 January, 2011, 10:07:45 AM
It shouldn't be *that* hard to get the x86 codecs working as well. Many codecs only come in an x86 version, and those with an x64 version should definitely offer an x86 version too.

Besides, I need to make a trade-off between the possible new features in WMP Tag Plus. Should I work on cool features (like album art support), or on features that will get noticed by only a small percentage of users (such as an x64 version)? Obviously, I prefer investing my valuable time in the first option.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: dr_o_ on 31 January, 2011, 12:36:23 PM
Is there a way learning wmp12 flac playback from a media server (dlna) source? flac playback&seek is fine with xiph opencodecs and wmp tag plus 1.2, but only with files in the local library. Is it possible to extend the flac playback support for dlna/upnp sources (e.g. a twonky mediaserver)?
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 01 February, 2011, 11:55:12 AM
To be honest, I have no idea, but I don't think that this should be handled by WMP Tag Plus anyway, as it's more a playback than a tagging issue.

However, if there are enough user requests for it, then I might look into this in the future. That means that I'll somehow have to set up my own UPNP media server for testing, so some help would be welcome in that case.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: zbigniew1ty on 12 March, 2011, 05:33:57 AM
Hi guys!

I installed WMP Tag Plus and it just doesn't work. I add folders with .flac files to library and nothing happens.
.flac files generaly do work perfectly(i see the length of track etc.), but I just can't add them to my WMP12 library.
I DO have this plugin turned on and i DON'T have any other plugin of this kind installed.
I tried also installing the WMPTagSupportExtender.1.4, but it also doesn't work(maybe it'll bring you the solution).
It's really weird because before formating my HDD (abount 1 week ago) everything worked fine and i didn't have any problems with .flac tag support in WMP12 (was using WMP tag support extander).

I'm using suggested codecs from xiph (opencodecs_0.85.17777) and default version of WMP12
OS: Windows 7 pro 64bit

Hope you know the solution and you'll help me ^^
/Thanks
zbiGniew1ty
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 12 March, 2011, 11:05:53 AM
Are you sure that WMP Tag Plus is loaded in WMP? The plug-in should be listed in the Tools - Plug-ins menu, and should have a checkmark next to it.

Please check if the FLAC files aren't already in the library, possibly under Unknown, or in the Other media section. If that's the case, then the FLAC files need to be re-added. Make sure that WMP Tag Plus is checked in Tools - Plug-ins, select the FLAC files, right-click, Delete - Delete from library only - OK. Then go to Tools - Advanced and select Restore deleted library items.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: zbigniew1ty on 13 March, 2011, 07:22:26 AM
Restoring library in tools helped me(not restoring deleted files ;p).
Everything works fine now:)
Thank a lot for help!
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: adamtoth on 19 March, 2011, 03:11:29 PM
This plugin is awesome!!!

I've struggled for years with WMPTagSupportExtender and WMPTagSupport11. No seeking, no duration, lack of unicode character support, memory leaks and poor performance.

I don't know how you figured out how to get around the duration issue in the WMP library, but whatever you did is freaking genius! And your plugin is FAST. I have a huge library, and the other plugins would slow to a crawl and often times hang/crash WMP, or crash if they encountered a file type that didn't have a DirectShow filter or that they didn't understand. I had some MonkeysAudio files in my collection (.ape) and your plugin just left them alone and screamed through my collection the first time.

Nice work!!! Thanks so much!
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Rempelos on 22 April, 2011, 11:05:38 AM
Hello

I installed WMP Tag Plus on Windows 7 64-bit machine. It is checked in the Plug-ins menu but i dont see anywhere the advanced tag editor and i cant play flac files. I dont know if I'm using 32-bit or 64-bit version of WMP 12 but I also tried to open WMP from the x86 folder and the plug-in still doesnt work (while checked in the plug-in menu)...

any ideas?

Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Rempelos on 22 April, 2011, 11:49:05 AM
OK sorry about that, i can play flac files.
But am i supposed to be able to use advanced tag editor with this plug-in or not? because I can't.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 22 April, 2011, 12:44:47 PM
WMP Tag Plus only adds library and tagging support to WMP for additional formats, like FLAC. To get a new tag editor in WMP 12, you need to install a different plug-in: Windows Media Player Plus!. See the BM-productions website (http://www.bm-productions.tk/) for the descriptions of both plug-ins, which should make the difference clear.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Rempelos on 22 April, 2011, 07:12:30 PM
Hi,
I installed Windows Media Player Plus! and now I can see the tag editor, thanks.
But I still have a problem:
with mp3 tracks in the library I can right-click on them and choose either "Tag Editor Plus" to edit the tags or just "Edit" to edit one specific tag in the library... But when i right-click on FLAC tracks the "Tag Editor Plus" item is missing while the "Edit" item is visible but not active...
By the way i created a playlist of FLAC files after the installation of both Windows Media Player Plus! and WMP Tag Plus.

-WMP Tag Plus is checked in the plug-in menu and
-in the "Formats" tab in Properties of the plug-in the "FLAC" item has Read/Write: Yes.

WMP Tag Plus actually works because I can read now the FLAC tags in the Library that I couldn't read before... but the problem is that i can't edit them.

thanks in advance

Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 23 April, 2011, 07:57:07 AM
Please post any further questions about Windows Media Player Plus! in the correct thread (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=80263) - this thread is for WMP Tag Plus only.

The Tag Editor Plus item currently only shows up for tracks that are in the library, so if the FLAC tracks aren't in the library yet, you should add them, and the item will show up for those tracks too.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: WonderCsabo on 23 April, 2011, 05:23:13 PM
Hi Tim!

Any news on FLAC cover support?
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 24 April, 2011, 08:54:11 AM
Support for embedded FLAC pictures has recently been added to TagLib, the tagging library used by WMP Tag Plus. Unfortunately, I haven't had the time yet to add album art support to WMP Tag Plus itself. I've been too busy with Windows Media Player Plus! 2.0, and I'm currently still busy with my master's thesis for school. I hope to get some work done on album art support during the summer.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: WonderCsabo on 24 April, 2011, 11:10:53 AM
Summer looks very very far.  Good luck to your master's thesis!
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: man on 04 May, 2011, 12:41:16 PM
Hi Tim!
Any news on FLAC cover support?


Summer looks very very far.  Good luck to your master's thesis!


I know embedded Cover support is what you want, but what about a Folder.jpg picture in each album folder ?
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: WonderCsabo on 15 May, 2011, 06:25:07 PM
I know embedded Cover support is what you want, but what about a Folder.jpg picture in each album folder ?


Thanks for the tip! I'm aware of this, and already considered, but found it too complicated for me cause of many reasons.
Maybe when i get enough spare time to add the folder.jpg to 1000 albums, i do it. 
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: ErikSka on 29 May, 2011, 08:38:17 AM
Hi Tim,

First of all I really would like to thank you for writing this plug-in. My respect about how you did it - exploiting the DLL loader is pretty smart.  I am also very impressed about the quality of the SDK, it's very professional.

I recently noticed that WMP12 added support for MP4 files, including metadata tags and especially for "AverageLevel" and "PeakValue" attributes. I am though still using Vista+WMP11 and thus I am very interested in MP4 file support in WMP11. So, I used the existing MPEG4 support from the SDK to add support for the new "Xtra" atom which is used by WMP12.

I would like to make this new MPEG4 support DLL as complete as possible to eventually achieve as much compatibility with WMP12 as possible. However, the "WMPTagPlusWriteMPEG4Tags" function does not yet provide all the attributes which would be required for that.

WMP12 stores the following WM attributes in the "Xtra" atom:
WM/EncodingTime
WM/MediaClassSecondaryID
WM/MediaClassPrimaryID
WM/Provider
WM/WMContentID
WM/WMCollectionID
WM/WMCollectionGroupID
WM/Publisher
WM/UniqueFileIdentifier
WM/ProviderStyle
AverageLevel
PeakValue

With my new MPEG4 support DLL I am able to handle WM/EncodingTime, WM/Provider, WM/ProviderStyle, WM/Publisher, AverageLevel and PeakValue. But I am lacking support for the remaining attributes. Simply because "WMPTagPlusWriteMPEG4Tags" does not provide them.

Additionally I also see that WMP12 added support handling multiple attribute values in MP4 files. It simply separates multiple values by a '/' character. However, I can not add that support to my new MPEG4 support DLL yet because "WMPTagPlusWriteMPEG4Tags" does not provide multiply attributes values (yes, it's even documented in the SDK).

So, I'd like to ask you for adding support for multiple attribute values and for the missing attributes. Having support for cover art would be nice as well, but still it's only a "nice to have". Personally I'd be more interested in support for multiple attribute values.

Thanks in advance.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 29 May, 2011, 12:04:45 PM
Thank you for the information. I am planning to add support for the remaining attributes to the next major release of WMP Tag Plus. I'm too busy with school at the moment but I'll get back to you in about a week.

However, I currently don't have any plans for multi-valued attributes, sorry. According to the posts here and elsewhere, users seem to prefer cover art support and generally care less about multi-valued attributes, and I have to prioritize.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Max_The_Swede on 07 June, 2011, 06:45:35 AM
Hi there,

I use Windows 7 64 bit and Windows Media Player 12 in 32 bit mode.

I play mostly FLAC and use latest version of WMP Tag plus and that work fine but....

When I clerar the libary in WMP 12 and reload the files into WMP 12 again the "connection" to AMG information is lost and i have to reconnect all albums again.

When I right click on a FLAC-file that has been uppdated with a right click and the function "Find album information" I can see that the date of that file have not change.

Is there a way to have the changes to the FLAC-file to stay in the file so when i reload the libary all updates made in WMP 12 are still there?



Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 07 June, 2011, 11:54:28 AM
What exactly do you mean with the "connection to AMG"?

Please check if WMP Tag Plus is loaded in WMP - it should be listed in the Tools - Plug-ins menu, and should have a checkmark next to it (press Ctrl+M if you don't see the Tools menu). If you have any other tag support plug-ins for WMP installed, please remove these to prevent conflicts.

Most changes to FLAC files in WMP's library should be written to file by WMP Tag Plus. You might want to check if the changes have been written, by opening a few FLAC files in an external tag editor like Mp3tag (http://www.mp3tag.de/en/).
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Max_The_Swede on 07 June, 2011, 12:16:28 PM
What exactly do you mean with the "connection to AMG"?

Please check if WMP Tag Plus is loaded in WMP - it should be listed in the Tools - Plug-ins menu, and should have a checkmark next to it (press Ctrl+M if you don't see the Tools menu). If you have any other tag support plug-ins for WMP installed, please remove these to prevent conflicts.

Most changes to FLAC files in WMP's library should be written to file by WMP Tag Plus. You might want to check if the changes have been written, by opening a few FLAC files in an external tag editor like Mp3tag (http://www.mp3tag.de/en/).


Inside WMP you can find the information for the album by right clicjk and "Find information for album".

From the list of albums i always choose American Music Guide (AMG) and WMP store this information with he album.
Inside WMP ii show the column where i can see that AMG is the information providor.

You understand what i mean?

No, i have no other plugins and the NAS, where the files is saved, has no  protection for the files (read-only ond so on).

Ok, I  try the tag editor and controll what happens after the AMG-information updates the file.

Thanks!


Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: AcidDan on 07 June, 2011, 02:51:59 PM
Hi Tim! First of all, Thank You for writing this plug-in!
But there is room for improve in multifile tag editing:
In my opinion, best editor dialog design for multifile tag editing was in WMP 9 (or 10?...)
List of selected files was on the left side of dialog.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 07 June, 2011, 04:18:03 PM
From the list of albums i always choose American Music Guide (AMG) and WMP store this information with he album.
Inside WMP ii show the column where i can see that AMG is the information providor.

Is it only the info in the Data provider column that gets lost when you reload the library? WMP Tag Plus doesn't write that info to FLAC files, as there's no standard FLAC tag for the data provider.

But there is room for improve in multifile tag editing:
In my opinion, best editor dialog design for multifile tag editing was in WMP 9 (or 10?...)
List of selected files was on the left side of dialog.

Are you talking about the tag editor of Windows Media Player Plus? If so, then you posted this in the wrong thread (WMP Tag Plus is a different plug-in).

In my opinion, the list on the left just clutters the dialog. Besides, it will always be way too narrow to properly show song titles. I am planning to add an up/down button to Tag Editor Plus in one of the next versions, to quickly edit the previous or next song in the library list. That would probably be a good alternative for the list, without adding clutter.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: AcidDan on 07 June, 2011, 04:29:12 PM
Are you talking about the tag editor of Windows Media Player Plus? If so, then you posted this in the wrong thread (WMP Tag Plus is a different plug-in).

In my opinion, the list on the left just clutters the dialog. Besides, it will always be way too narrow to properly show song titles. I am planning to add an up/down button to Tag Editor Plus in one of the next versions, to quickly edit the previous or next song in the library list. That would probably be a good alternative for the list, without adding clutter.

You're right - I posted in wrong thread by mistake.
Both plugin great addition to WMP - so thank you for both
Up/down button will be good alternative.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Max_The_Swede on 07 June, 2011, 04:57:43 PM
From the list of albums i always choose American Music Guide (AMG) and WMP store this information with he album.
Inside WMP ii show the column where i can see that AMG is the information providor.

Is it only the info in the Data provider column that gets lost when you reload the library? WMP Tag Plus doesn't write that info to FLAC files, as there's no standard FLAC tag for the data provider.

But there is room for improve in multifile tag editing:
In my opinion, best editor dialog design for multifile tag editing was in WMP 9 (or 10?...)
List of selected files was on the left side of dialog.

Are you talking about the tag editor of Windows Media Player Plus? If so, then you posted this in the wrong thread (WMP Tag Plus is a different plug-in).

In my opinion, the list on the left just clutters the dialog. Besides, it will always be way too narrow to properly show song titles. I am planning to add an up/down button to Tag Editor Plus in one of the next versions, to quickly edit the previous or next song in the library list. That would probably be a good alternative for the list, without adding clutter.


Sorry about the wrong thread!

My first time in this forum.

No, it is all information that not is written to the files (FLAC, WAV, OGG and so on).
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 07 June, 2011, 05:23:50 PM
Max, that was directed at AcidDan, not you. Everything related to WMP Tag Plus can be discussed here, so you're in the right thread.

FLAC and OGG are supported by WMP Tag Plus, but not WAV. Did you check if WMP Tag Plus is loaded, as I asked earlier?
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: saivert on 13 June, 2011, 05:11:50 PM
I miss .mka support. and it has to support chapters.
foobar2000 supports that.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Max_The_Swede on 13 June, 2011, 11:45:43 PM
Max, that was directed at AcidDan, not you. Everything related to WMP Tag Plus can be discussed here, so you're in the right thread.

FLAC and OGG are supported by WMP Tag Plus, but not WAV. Did you check if WMP Tag Plus is loaded, as I asked earlier?


I found out what was wrong and it had to do with the rights on the file-level on the NAS. The file name ws updated according to what I had set in WMP but the updated tags where not saved in the file.

I use Tag Editor Plus and the Advance option to right click on a single track and  I can very easy see all the tags that has been updated.

Now i can see the providor of the information (AMG) and their codes in the file

It works find now!

Thanks!

I have an idea for you:

When you play the songs in WMP it would be nice to have an plug-in that show the album cover and under it:

Artist: David Bowie
Album: Lets Dance
Track: China Girl
Release Year:1983
Producer:Nile Rodgers
Composer: David Bowie, Iggy Pop


If you in the plug-in can choose what information that should be shown under the cover iy would be very smooth.
It could been done as when you choose what column to show in WMP.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 14 June, 2011, 06:06:24 AM
I miss .mka support. and it has to support chapters.
foobar2000 supports that.

I currently don't have any plans to add MKA support myself. Note however that WMP Tag Plus has pluggable tag support so that any developer who is interested could write his own tag support. I do feel that chapter support is something that should be provided by the codec and not by WMP Tag Plus.

When you play the songs in WMP it would be nice to have an plug-in that show the album cover and under it:

If you in the plug-in can choose what information that should be shown under the cover iy would be very smooth.
It could been done as when you choose what column to show in WMP.

Yes, I already have something like that in mind for Windows Media Player Plus!, but there are no concrete plans yet. If it's added then you will probably be able to customize the shown info by editing ATF format strings, just like you can already do now for the title bar and Messenger's Show What I'm Listening To.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Max_The_Swede on 14 June, 2011, 06:19:25 AM
I miss .mka support. and it has to support chapters.
foobar2000 supports that.

I currently don't have any plans to add MKA support myself. Note however that WMP Tag Plus has pluggable tag support so that any developer who is interested could write his own tag support. I do feel that chapter support is something that should be provided by the codec and not by WMP Tag Plus.

When you play the songs in WMP it would be nice to have an plug-in that show the album cover and under it:

If you in the plug-in can choose what information that should be shown under the cover iy would be very smooth.
It could been done as when you choose what column to show in WMP.

Yes, I already have something like that in mind for Windows Media Player Plus!, but there are no concrete plans yet. If it's added then you will probably be able to customize the shown info by editing ATF format strings, just like you can already do now for the title bar and Messenger's Show What I'm Listening To.

Thats sounds really nice!
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: attackofthemike on 16 June, 2011, 07:35:05 PM
Hey Guys,

I hope this question has not been asked before. I have downloaded plugins and tag plus for Windows 7. Installed successfully. I can play m4a files just fine. But they will not add to my library. BTW I have 64-bit if that makes a difference.

Thanks,
Michael Callahan

P.S. I'm using 32-bit Media Player, WMP Tag plus is checked, and have K-Lite Codec pack Full
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: attackofthemike on 16 June, 2011, 08:51:33 PM
I found all the media in other media tab i tried deleting it and moving it to library from the original folder but that also doesn't work. This is also lossless m4a.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 17 June, 2011, 08:18:54 AM
This is a known issue with WMP 12: lossless M4A files are always added to Other media instead of Music. Fortunately, I have recently been able to come up with a fix for this. The fix is included in a new beta version of WMP Tag Plus (download here (http://bmproductions.fixnum.org/links/?linkid=2)).

After installing the beta, existing lossless M4A files in Other media will need to be removed from the library, and re-added (through Tools - Advanced - Restore deleted library items). When re-adding, they should now appear in Music instead.

Please give the fix a try, and let me know if it works alright. Apart from the fix, nothing has been changed in this beta version.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: b23h on 18 June, 2011, 11:33:16 PM
Hi Tim!!

Just wanted to say that I am still running WMP Tag Plus since when I first tried it in November 2009 just before your 1.1 release.  I'd like to say how happy I am with it.    Perhaps once every six months I'll have a crash in WMP player where I will need to "recheck" WMP Tag Plus as a plug in, but I'm not even sure that it is WMP Tag Plus that is causing the crash.    IF it is responsible, the positive aspects of the plug in still heavily outweigh the negative aspects.

I am quite happy with your plug in.  Thank you for all of your hard work on it!

bh
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Max_The_Swede on 19 June, 2011, 04:16:29 AM
I miss .mka support. and it has to support chapters.
foobar2000 supports that.

I currently don't have any plans to add MKA support myself. Note however that WMP Tag Plus has pluggable tag support so that any developer who is interested could write his own tag support. I do feel that chapter support is something that should be provided by the codec and not by WMP Tag Plus.

When you play the songs in WMP it would be nice to have an plug-in that show the album cover and under it:

If you in the plug-in can choose what information that should be shown under the cover iy would be very smooth.
It could been done as when you choose what column to show in WMP.

Yes, I already have something like that in mind for Windows Media Player Plus!, but there are no concrete plans yet. If it's added then you will probably be able to customize the shown info by editing ATF format strings, just like you can already do now for the title bar and Messenger's Show What I'm Listening To.

Thats sounds really nice!

As I said before I use Tag Editor Plus and the Advanced part to check "whats inisde the file" just to make sure everything is ok after the file is saved.
Does this part shows "whats in the file " or "whats saved in WMP?
If it "only" shows whats inside WMP it would be very nice with a function where you see whats inide the file after you save something in WMP.

Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 19 June, 2011, 10:33:55 AM
Just wanted to say that I am still running WMP Tag Plus since when I first tried it in November 2009 just before your 1.1 release.  I'd like to say how happy I am with it.    Perhaps once every six months I'll have a crash in WMP player where I will need to "recheck" WMP Tag Plus as a plug in, but I'm not even sure that it is WMP Tag Plus that is causing the crash.    IF it is responsible, the positive aspects of the plug in still heavily outweigh the negative aspects.

Good to hear  If you get a crash again, feel free to send me the crash details by e-mail. I'll take a look at them and will try to find the cause.

As I said before I use Tag Editor Plus and the Advanced part to check "whats inisde the file" just to make sure everything is ok after the file is saved.
Does this part shows "whats in the file " or "whats saved in WMP?
If it "only" shows whats inside WMP it would be very nice with a function where you see whats inide the file after you save something in WMP.

Max, now you're definitely posting in the wrong thread too

Tag Editor Plus queries WMP for all the info that it shows (except for lyrics, comments and pictures), so it will only show what's saved in WMP's library. This will almost always be the same as what's saved in the file, but if you want to directly view the info from file you can use an external tag editor like Mp3tag (http://www.mp3tag.de/en/).
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: smithmjh on 17 July, 2011, 05:53:27 AM
Hello,

I am having trouble installing the WMP Tag Plus.

During the installation (on Windows 7 64-bit) I get the following message in a dialog box:

c:\Program Files (x86)\WMP Tag Plus\WMPTagPlus.dll
Unable to register the DLL/OCX: RegSvr32 failed with exit code 0x5
Click retry to try again, Ignore to proceeed anyway (not recommended), or Abort to cancel installation.

If I click retry the dialog box keeps re-appearing.  If I click 'Ignore' the installation seems to be succesful, but I cannot see the WMP Tag Plus tool listed under Tools - Plug-ins (and consequently no m4a tags recognised).

Has anyone else ever had this problem, or know what might be going wrong?

Thanks,
Mark.


Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: smithmjh on 17 July, 2011, 06:20:40 AM
I am having trouble installing the WMP Tag Plus.

During the installation (on Windows 7 64-bit) I get the following message in a dialog box:

c:\Program Files (x86)\WMP Tag Plus\WMPTagPlus.dll
Unable to register the DLL/OCX: RegSvr32 failed with exit code 0x5
Click retry to try again, Ignore to proceeed anyway (not recommended), or Abort to cancel installation.



SOLVED

Manually registered WMPTagPlus.dll using RegSvr32:

Command Prompt - run as administrator
RegSvr32  c:\Program Files (x86)\WMP Tag Plus\WMPTagPlus.dll
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 17 July, 2011, 12:44:25 PM
Indeed, manually registering the DLL is what I would have suggested as well. A 0x5 code usually means "access denied" which is weird because the installer should have access to the DLL and the various affected registry keys. This might have been caused by permissions that are incorrectly set, possibly related to UAC (User Account Control).

Note that WMP 12 on Windows 7 already has built-in support for M4A tags.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: bellylin on 30 July, 2011, 10:31:59 AM
Hi, does the beta version support APE format? It would be nice, since there is no way to seek ape files imported to WMP library due to lack of track length information.
I have read that the latest version of TagLib has support for ape files.
Thanks.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 30 July, 2011, 04:03:27 PM
No, for the moment, the only thing that's new in the beta is the fix for lossless M4A in WMP 12. I have also noticed that APE support was added to TagLib, but I haven't extended WMP Tag Plus yet to make use of that support. The next major release, WMP Tag Plus 2.0, will support the APE format.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: bellylin on 30 July, 2011, 10:03:27 PM
No, for the moment, the only thing that's new in the beta is the fix for lossless M4A in WMP 12. I have also noticed that APE support was added to TagLib, but I haven't extended WMP Tag Plus yet to make use of that support. The next major release, WMP Tag Plus 2.0, will support the APE format.


Wow, that's great. Hope it'd be released soon. Thank you for the amazing work!
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: freaky-hardware on 03 August, 2011, 05:42:10 AM
Hello Tim and all the WMP Tag Plus users here in the forum,

first of all thanks for developing the Plugin. I have just recently started to archive my CD collection and chose FLAC as a lossless format. I have also successfully installed all codecs and your plugin necessary for playing the files and displaying/editing the Tags in WMP. Everything works out fine - apart from one thing: WMP does not display the cover artwork for the FLAC files and does not allow to add artwork (there is an error message displayed when trying to add an image, that it is not possible to add cover art while files are played from the album ... although there is no file playing after all). So I have added cover artwort successfully using MP3tag, but still the artwork is not displayed in WMP (although I reset the library of WMP).

I would very much apprechiate any ideas how to solve this problem!
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 03 August, 2011, 10:22:32 AM
Yes, that error message is a known limitation of the current version and is caused by the fact that WMP Tag Plus doesn't really support album art yet. Such support is planned for the next major release. In the meantime, you should be able to add album art by manually placing it as a Folder.jpg file in the album folders.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: freaky-hardware on 03 August, 2011, 03:55:52 PM
Yes, that error message is a known limitation of the current version and is caused by the fact that WMP Tag Plus doesn't really support album art yet. Such support is planned for the next major release. In the meantime, you should be able to add album art by manually placing it as a Folder.jpg file in the album folders.



O.k. thanks for your quick reply - I will use the workaround and will wait for the next major release. Cheers!
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: John Lockwood on 04 August, 2011, 09:25:02 AM
Hello Tim and all the WMP Tag Plus users here in the forum,

first of all thanks for developing the Plugin. I have just recently started to archive my CD collection and chose FLAC as a lossless format. I have also successfully installed all codecs and your plugin necessary for playing the files and displaying/editing the Tags in WMP. Everything works out fine - apart from one thing: WMP does not display the cover artwork for the FLAC files and does not allow to add artwork (there is an error message displayed when trying to add an image, that it is not possible to add cover art while files are played from the album ... although there is no file playing after all). So I have added cover artwort successfully using MP3tag, but still the artwork is not displayed in WMP (although I reset the library of WMP).

I would very much apprechiate any ideas how to solve this problem!

It may not suit you but the following does what I want.

WMP12 has built-in support for accessing and using the MPEG4 tags (atoms) in AAC files which have the .m4a file extension. Apple Lossless (aka. ALAC) files use exactly the same file format, file extension and tags (atoms) as AAC files. It is possible to get WMP12 to play Apple Lossless files via a DirectShow filter based on my original idea and written by Milenko Mitrovic. Thanks to Tim and his WMP Tag Plus plugin, it is now possible to get WMP12 to accept Apple Lossless files and add them to the proper music section of the WMP library. As WMP12 can already understand MPEG4 tags it can therefore (and does I have confirmed this) read the tags and embedded artwork in Apple Lossless files.

As a result WMP12 can use Apple Lossless files in a completely seemless manner with no fiddling necessary. Apple Lossless files can be used in Foobar, WinAmp, DBPowerAmp, XBMC, Plex, VLC, and many other applications plus of course iTunes. They also work in Microsoft Media Center which uses WMP as the engine (again I have confirmed this).

So, if your goal is only to have the music in a lossless format with full integration in WMP12 (or earlier) Apple Lossless will do the job perfectly. If however you need to share it with a streaming box like the NetGear Entertainer, or XBox360, or PS3 it might not be suitable for you. Apple Lossless does however work with Sonos, Logitech, and Roku devices.

While initially WMP12 made life with Apple Lossless impossible by deliberately routing the files to the 'other' section, thanks to Tim it is now even better than earlier versions of WMP as it can now read the embedded artwork as well as the text tags and does now reside in the proper music section of the library.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: WonderCsabo on 27 August, 2011, 04:16:05 PM
Just the head's up: are you managed to start working on FLAC cover support? (I hope your master's thesis went well!)
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 28 August, 2011, 06:47:05 AM
Yes, I'm currently working on WMP Tag Plus 2.0, including FLAC cover support.

Master's thesis went well and I graduated  I am going to start working soon, so that will probably slow down progress a bit.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: WonderCsabo on 28 August, 2011, 06:25:53 PM
Yes, I'm currently working on WMP Tag Plus 2.0, including FLAC cover support.

Master's thesis went well and I graduated  I am going to start working soon, so that will probably slow down progress a bit.


Congratulations on your degree and job!  And good job for WMP Tag Plus 2.0!
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Sameer Modha on 31 August, 2011, 07:39:57 PM
Hello Tim and everyone,

Feel a bit thick here.

Excited about the ALAC handling of the 1.3 beta, but when I install the file WMPTagPlus-1.3-Beta2.exe from http://bmproductions.fixnum.org/links/?linkid=2 (http://bmproductions.fixnum.org/links/?linkid=2), the Properties window for the plugin only shows FLAC, Vorbis and WavPack under the Formats tab, and not MPEG4.

If I reinstall the released 1.2 version instead, then MPEG4 appears correctly but obviously the 'Other' filing problem remains!

What am I doing wrong?

Sameer

(System is Windows 7 x64 if that makes any difference.)
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: John Lockwood on 01 September, 2011, 05:51:32 AM
This confused me initially as well. The answer is that WMP12 in Windows 7 can already read MPEG4 meta-tags including embedded artwork. Therefore The WMPTagPlus plugin does not need to include the ability to read MPEG4 tags - doing so would be wasteful duplication. All WMPTagPlus does for MPEG4 files i.e. ALAC files is trick WMP12 in to thinking they are the same as AAC files and hence they now show up in the correct music section of the WMP library.

You will still need to have installed the ALAC codec to let WMP12 actually play the Apple Lossless files.

I came up with the idea behind the Apple Lossless codec, and it was then written (based ony my approach) by Milenko Mitrovic. this worked for years in WMP in Windows XP and Vista but Microsoft sabotaged it in Windows 7. Tim has now in his plugin provided a workaround to get things working fully again. In fact things are now better than ever since embedded artwork now works as well. Apple Lossless will also work in Media Center with this solution.

Heres hoping Microsoft do not break things again in Windows 8.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 01 September, 2011, 03:39:29 PM
Excited about the ALAC handling of the 1.3 beta, but when I install the file WMPTagPlus-1.3-Beta2.exe from http://bmproductions.fixnum.org/links/?linkid=2 (http://bmproductions.fixnum.org/links/?linkid=2), the Properties window for the plugin only shows FLAC, Vorbis and WavPack under the Formats tab, and not MPEG4.

John is right: the new ALAC support in the beta is completely separate from the existing tag support. In the beta, this ALAC support isn't advertised anywhere yet, it 'just works'

Another small change in the beta is that it doesn't install the MPEG-4 support anymore on Windows 7. This is because it's not needed there anyway and can only conflict with the built-in MPEG-4 support. As said, this change doesn't affect ALAC support whatsoever.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: webminster on 06 September, 2011, 12:28:50 AM
I have a chronic problem where WMPTP is disabled somehow.  WMP12 on Win7 SP1 x86_64.  I'll enable the plugin, and it'll stay enabled for awhile, but it somehow gets silently disabled.  Can't pin it down to any action I'm doing or system context.  Has anyone else had this problem? 
-Alan
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 06 September, 2011, 02:56:36 PM
Do other plug-ins also get silently disabled together with WMP Tag Plus? WMP automatically disables all plug-ins when it's not closed properly (e.g. because of a crash), so that's a possible cause.

Another possibility is that WMP Tag Plus gets disabled after running Media Center (which is always 64-bit) or the 64-bit version of WMP, because there only is a 32-bit version of the plug-in. I have already come across a similar issue, but haven't experienced the plug-in getting disabled yet.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: webminster on 06 September, 2011, 08:54:49 PM
Had expected to see a crash message from WMP if that was happening, and haven't... Don't have any other plugins installed/enabled there, so no basis of comparison.  This is on a machine dedicated to Windows Media Center, so I usually don't open WMP (except to re-enable the plugin).  Running whatever is the default version of WMP that would be set up and run as part of the 64bit install, including WMC.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 08 September, 2011, 03:37:47 PM
Please make sure that the plug-in is enabled in WMP, close WMP, start Media Center, close it, and start WMP again. Is the plug-in still enabled then?

Also, note that WMP Tag Plus won't be active in Media Center at all since Media Center on Windows x64 is 64-bit, which WMP Tag Plus doesn't support.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: webminster on 08 September, 2011, 08:06:12 PM
I recall in an earlier post, someone had mentioned that 32-bit WMP is the default even on 64-bit systems, and you had to run the 64-bit version explicitly. 

At any rate -- stopped WMC and checked WMP.  Plugin had gotten disabled again.
Re-enabled plugin, re-entered WMC, and cycled through a few menu items (including the music library).  Quit WMC and rechecked WMP -- plugin was still enabled.

So it isn't just the process of running WMC that is shutting it off.  While in WMC, I've indexed my music library (which is half FLAC rips), so I know that the combo works.  It just won't stay working...
-Alan
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: GHammer on 08 September, 2011, 11:50:00 PM
Just FYI

I have an x64 system and indexing my FLAC files works here via WMC

No idea on why your plugin falls out...
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 09 September, 2011, 03:36:57 PM
I recall in an earlier post, someone had mentioned that 32-bit WMP is the default even on 64-bit systems, and you had to run the 64-bit version explicitly.

That's true for WMP, but for Media Center, the situation is different.

Quote
So it isn't just the process of running WMC that is shutting it off.  While in WMC, I've indexed my music library (which is half FLAC rips), so I know that the combo works.  It just won't stay working...

Which version of WMP Tag Plus do you have installed? Do you still get the problem with the latest 1.3 Beta (http://bmproductions.fixnum.org/links/?linkid=2) version?
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: webminster on 10 September, 2011, 01:44:48 PM
Don't know.  Just installed the beta, enabled the plug-in.  Will advise.
-Alan
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: webminster on 11 September, 2011, 05:15:17 PM
Nope, didn't help... checked back a day later running WMP, plugin had gone disabled again.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 13 September, 2011, 04:00:47 PM
Then I'm afraid that I have no clue about what's causing this. You will probably have to do some experimenting yourself to find out what exactly triggers the silent disabling of the plug-in. Without this crucial information, there's no way for me to further investigate this.

To quickly find out if the plug-in is still disabled, launch Regedit and navigate to HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\MediaPlayer\UIPlugins\{CBD7AB87-2A5A-4466-B31E-61D9A782D6AA}. If the Running entry is set to 1, the plug-in is enabled. You can press F5 there to refresh.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: sleeplessinsale on 30 November, 2011, 04:10:47 AM
Hello Tim,

I hope you still read this. Only discovered your amazing work a week ago! Ended my nightmares with FLAC usage and WMP11 on Vista

Anyway, I have a new laptop..

Windows 7 (64 bit).
I installed WMP 11 because of how awful WMP 12 is.

Problem now is my WMP 11 install will not load your WMP Tag Plus plug-in.

My WMP11 is installed in C:\Program Files\Windows Media Player
The old WMP12 is installed in C:\Program Files (x86)\Windows Media Player

I feel during the install, the logical installation path I should select for the plug-in is C:\Program Files  but it does not show up in Options, Plug-in in my WMP11
I also uninstalled, then installed it in C:\Program Files (x86)  but it still didn't show up in WMP11 .. I uninstalled it again.

I even uninstalled codecs (the xiph ones) and have no other plug-ins of any kind installed for WMP.

WMP Tag Plus 1.2 <--- this is the version I am attempting to use, as I did successfully on my former laptop.
WMP 11.0.6001.7000
Windows 7 Home Premium - Service Pack 1 - 64 bit

Please help.
What should I do? I am even open to completely obliterating WMP12 from my system to eliminate that as a distraction. I kept it around 'just in case'.

Thanks in advance!!!!

UPDATE : I did end up obliterating WMP12 from my system (after setting a system restore point first).

Now when I run your Tag Plus installer, it pops up a small message saying it cannot find a version of WMP 11 or higher on the system, etc...

Getting closer in a roundabout kind of way?
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 30 November, 2011, 05:42:03 AM
I'm afraid that using WMP Tag Plus in WMP 11 on Windows 7 is completely untested and unsupported. However, it looked like you installed the 64-bit version of WMP 11. WMP Tag Plus is only compatible with the 32-bit version (which is located in the Program Files (x86) folder).
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: sleeplessinsale on 07 December, 2011, 02:24:56 AM
OK so with all the haphazard risk of doing all this downgrading, hack here and there, I've got this WMP 11 64 bit to work on my 64-bit Windows 7 laptop and play flac files happily all day long.

I can not see online a forum describing how to get WMP 11 32-bit version onto a 64 bit Windows 7 machine, so I can only beg shamelessly.. are you going to make a WMP Tag Plus that works on WMP 11 64-bit ?

What would it take to persuade you..?

Beg, grovel, lots of smiles.. virtual cakes..

Please?
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 07 December, 2011, 04:07:29 AM
Sorry, but no. Making a 64-bit version would require *significant* efforts and would take about a half year of work (combined with my full-time job). And as I previously stated:

Quote
Besides, I need to make a trade-off between the possible new features in WMP Tag Plus. Should I work on cool features (like album art support), or on features that will get noticed by only a small percentage of users (such as an x64 version)? Obviously, I prefer investing my valuable time in the first option.

Also, please refer to my previous post. Your scenario is unsupported anyway. Why not just run 32-bit WMP 11 in Windows 7's (virtualized) XP Mode (http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/install-and-use-windows-xp-mode-in-windows-7)?
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: sleeplessinsale on 07 December, 2011, 04:11:19 AM
Wow. A miracle has happened.. with all my fiddling around, hacking, uninstalling this, installing WMP11 32-bit knowing it would fail, taking it off again and system restoring, then re-installing the codec for flac...

Abracadabra!

Flac tags are now editable for me in WMP 11 64 bit version on my Windows 7 64 bit system - YES.. WITH NO NEED FOR A PLUG-IN!? 



It now looks like I have my perfect DJ dedicated laptop! yay!
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 07 December, 2011, 11:30:55 AM
Flac tags are now editable for me in WMP 11 64 bit version on my Windows 7 64 bit system - YES.. WITH NO NEED FOR A PLUG-IN!?

Tags are always editable in WMP's library, regardless of the format. However, if the format isn't supported by WMP, you can't use the Advanced Tag Editor and tags won't be actually read from/written to file. The fact that tags are only stored in the library means that you can lose them pretty easily (e.g. because of library corruption).
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: sleeplessinsale on 08 December, 2011, 05:39:13 AM
As usual, you are right about that, I didn't realise..

I can't run my new laptop like you say because it doesn't support the technical requirements to run virtualisation.

So, I think my only realistic way forward is to develop a sound strategy/plan to maintain backups of my library. Which will be interesting as I don't even know where or how it's saved
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 08 December, 2011, 05:46:42 PM
You could back up the media library to an XML file with the Metadata Backup (http://www.dalepreston.com/Blog/2007/03/windows-media-player-metadata-backup.html) tool.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: WonderCsabo on 15 December, 2011, 04:50:30 AM
Any news on FLAC cover support?
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 15 December, 2011, 11:12:23 AM
Cover support is in progress, but a new release definitely isn't within sight yet.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Fabien on 08 January, 2012, 06:27:58 PM
Hello and happy new year!

I use WMP Tag Plus 1.2 with WMP12 + madFlac + Reclock in Wasapi exclusive mode and i face this issue:

I have an error with WMP between tracks: "the audio device is already used by another application".
In fact, when I use Exclusive mode, it seems that WMP is trying to load the next track just before the current track is over and the current Reclock instance is unloaded.
The result is 2 Reclock instances; one for the current track that doesn't close (WMC seems to go on reading it), and an instance for the next track that generate the error.

Problem seems to be related to the tag support plugin used for WMP. If i use latest extender with track time support, like WMP Tag Plus problem exists. But when i use older without time support everything is OK...

Could you have a look on it for your future release?

Thanks
FM
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 09 January, 2012, 07:36:56 AM
Is crossfading enabled in WMP? Does turning it off help?

Is it possible to use Reclock for formats that WMP supports by default (like MP3) as well? Does that work?

I'm not sure if Reclock allows this, but what if you remove madFLAC and use the Xiph.org DirectShow filters (http://www.xiph.org/dshow/) instead for FLAC decoding?
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Fabien on 09 January, 2012, 12:00:53 PM
Is crossfading enabled in WMP? Does turning it off help?

Is it possible to use Reclock for formats that WMP supports by default (like MP3) as well? Does that work?

I'm not sure if Reclock allows this, but what if you remove madFLAC and use the Xiph.org DirectShow filters (http://www.xiph.org/dshow/) instead for FLAC decoding?

- Crossfading is off
- yes it's possible to use reclock with every format
- i installed also codec from xiph and same issue

I guess it's a time calculation in the WMP tagger
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 09 January, 2012, 03:06:45 PM
- yes it's possible to use reclock with every format

... and do you get the same issue in WMP for e.g. MP3?

Quote
- i installed also codec from xiph and same issue

Simply installing the Xiph.org codecs might not be enough. You need to remove or at least disable madFLAC to be sure that the Xiph.org codecs are used instead.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Fabien on 09 January, 2012, 05:01:49 PM
... and do you get the same issue in WMP for e.g. MP3?

I did not test MP3's because i only have FLAC files

Quote
Simply installing the Xiph.org codecs might not be enough. You need to remove or at least disable madFLAC to be sure that the Xiph.org codecs are used instead.

Before installing Xiph.org codec, i uninstalled madFlac.

Have a look on this thread, especailly last post: http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?t=47065 (http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?t=47065)
I am not the only one to have same issue.

Thanks for investigation.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 10 January, 2012, 11:23:51 AM
I did not test MP3's because i only have FLAC files

Please get a few MP3s, just to test with. It's not exactly hard to find them online or to generate a few yourself.

Another interesting test would be to temporarily disable WMP Tag Plus, by unchecking it in WMP's Tools - Plug-ins menu. The track times should just stay in the library. Then, please check if the same issue occurs with WMP Tag Plus disabled.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Fabien on 10 January, 2012, 02:48:56 PM
Please get a few MP3s, just to test with. It's not exactly hard to find them online or to generate a few yourself.

Another interesting test would be to temporarily disable WMP Tag Plus, by unchecking it in WMP's Tools - Plug-ins menu. The track times should just stay in the library. Then, please check if the same issue occurs with WMP Tag Plus disabled.

Hi,

- i tested with MP3's & Reclock and it works well, no issue
- i disabled WMP Tag Plus via Tools->Plugins and played some FLAC files and issue is still there and i can still see the time last in library and time progress during playing track

Thanks for your support
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Fabien on 11 January, 2012, 04:36:33 PM
I have some news:

i deleted all my library and replace WMP Tag plugin with another tag plugin there: http://www.softpointer.com/download.htm (http://www.softpointer.com/download.htm)
I reimport my flac files in WMP12 library.
This plugin WMPTagSupport11 allows to tag flac files except Year and Duration tags but it works well with reclock, no issue!
So it's good to know i can play without problem but now i don't have duration and year 

Maybe it's a lead you can investigate.

Thanks

ps: i found another plugin wich works also: WMP Tag Support Extender (http://wmptagext.sourceforge.net/) but no duration & year tag also
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 12 January, 2012, 05:18:24 AM
I have installed Reclock on my own Windows 7 system yesterday and could quickly reproduce the issue with FLAC files. Even after completely uninstalling WMP Tag Plus, the issue was still occurring which leads me to believe that my plug-in isn't the cause, but rather the track times in the library. And there's not much that can be done about those - without the track times, seeking won't work either (this is in fact one of the reasons why the plug-in was developed in the first place).

- i tested with MP3's & Reclock and it works well, no issue

For MP3 files played in WMP, I couldn't get Reclock to be used. How exactly did you get this to work?

i deleted all my library and replace WMP Tag plugin with another tag plugin there:

You're of course free to use whichever tag support plug-in you like, but please note that both other plug-ins haven't been updated for a long time and probably won't be updated ever again. I can also speak from personal experience that the authors of those plug-ins have stopped providing any support.

Another problem with the Softpointer plug-in is that it doesn't seem to write the changes made in the library to the FLAC files themselves (at least not when I tested it a while ago). If the changes aren't written to file then you can easily lose them all again, for example, when WMP's library gets corrupted.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Fabien on 12 January, 2012, 01:55:07 PM
Hello,

for MP3's, i just open with WMP12 and reclock runs, very simple.

I agree with you, maybe it's a reclock issue and you are right others plugins are not up to date but what can i do?
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 12 January, 2012, 06:04:39 PM
I might have found something. Please make sure that WMP is closed, then open the Start Menu, type regedit in the Search field and press Enter. In the Registry Editor, navigate to the following path, depending on your Windows edition:

Windows 7 32-bit: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Multimedia\WMPlayer\Extensions\.flac
Windows 7 64-bit: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\Multimedia\WMPlayer\Extensions\.flac

There, double-click the Runtime entry (it should be originally set to 7), change the Value data to 6 and click OK. Then start WMP again and check if you still experience the issue.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Fabien on 13 January, 2012, 09:47:05 AM
Thanks Tim! Your trick works like a charm  You solved the issue! What is this reg value?
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 13 January, 2012, 02:47:07 PM
The Runtime registry entry tells WMP which technology to play FLAC files with (it also exists for all other multimedia file types that can be played by WMP). See this page (http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/dd564299%28v=vs.85%29.aspx) for more info.

The 'normal' value that gets set by WMP Tag Plus and most FLAC codecs is 7, which means that FLAC files must be played with DirectShow. In case just a FLAC DirectShow filter (like madFLAC or the Xiph.org filter) is installed, that is also the correct value. However, it seems that with Reclock, a value of 6 is also supported and even works better. 6 means that WMP should use the Windows Media Format SDK for playing FLAC files, just like it does for MP3 and WMA.

It's probably a good idea to report this to the author of Reclock, so he can update his filter to set the correct values automatically.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: omissis on 21 January, 2012, 10:53:31 AM
Hi all
I posted my problem elsewhere but hadn't been able to get a workaround to it, so excuse me anybody who read the other post, because I'm pasting it there

Quote
Win7 x64 machine there, using WMP12 x86
I installed the FLAC media foundation codec,a real nice alternative because doesn't install as a DSF but rather as a simple codec, and, most of all, gets rid of the annoying seekbar problem;after that I installed the WMP Tag Plus plug in, wishing to tag my few FLAC files; though that I'm experiencing the fact that my FLAC files can't be added to the media library, let alone be tagged.
Now I can't relate the problem to the WMP itself, I know I first installed the FLAC 1.2.1b frontend, then the FLAC mf, then the WMPTag plus; now I uninstalled the FLAC frontend but nothing changed : I can't add FLACs to th MEdia Library nor tag them via Windows Explorer despite the WMPTag plus is correctly pluged in.
Can anybody help me get around this problem?
many thanks

Max
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 21 January, 2012, 11:16:59 AM
WMP Tag Plus only adds tagging support to WMP - for tagging FLAC files in Explorer, an additional property handler needs to be installed.

Please make sure that the FLAC files really aren't in your library, possibly under a different artist (or even Unknown) or in a different section of the library (such as Other media). Also, please try manually dragging them from Explorer into the library in WMP.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: omissis on 21 January, 2012, 11:40:33 AM
Hi Tim
I can't add the files by using the right-click option, and in WMP I seem I can't drag'n'drop them into the library; I 'll try with more flacs and let you know if the flacs are corrupted (seems not, WMP can read them seamlessly)
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: omissis on 21 January, 2012, 03:17:07 PM
Hi again Tim
I uninstalled then reinstalled wmpt+ and it seems I can add the flacs only if i manually drag and drop them twice in the media library...could you try and reproduce the environment (WMP x86 on an x64 Win7 Home Premium + MF-FLAC) and tell me if it's just me who's having the problem?
Also , can there be conflicts with wmpt+ if I install the "flac property handler" for managing tags via Windows Explorer?
Thx for replying...
Max
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 21 January, 2012, 04:04:53 PM
It doesn't really sound like your issue could be caused by WMP Tag Plus and/or MFFLAC. I'm suspecting a more general issue with WMP's library. Are your FLAC files located in one of WMP's library locations (Organize - Manage libraries - Music)? I suggest that you try resetting the media library by following my instructions in this thread (http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_vista-sound/windows-media-player-11-lists-and-plays-every-song/f5fa32f6-315a-4b69-b127-dcd71600baf1?page=1&tm=1304267782634). Note that resetting the library will make you lose all current play counts, and possibly ratings too.

Also , can there be conflicts with wmpt+ if I install the "flac property handler" for managing tags via Windows Explorer?

No, WMP Tag Plus will be used in WMP and the property handler will be used in Explorer. However, I recommend that you wait with installing the property handler until the library issue is fixed, just to be sure.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: stephenv2 on 25 January, 2012, 07:47:40 PM
Can't install on Win 7 Pro x64. If WMP is running - it says, you must close WMP. If it's close, it says it can't find WMP and install fails?
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 26 January, 2012, 06:30:52 AM
What's the exact text of the error message that is shown when WMP is closed?

Where is the wmplayer.exe file located on your system? (you can perform a search if you aren't sure)

Please open the Start Menu, type regedit in the Search field and press Enter. In the Registry Editor, navigate to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\App Paths\wmplayer.exe. What is the value of the (Default) entry there?
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: stephenv2 on 26 January, 2012, 08:48:11 AM
What's the exact text of the error message that is shown when WMP is closed?

Where is the wmplayer.exe file located on your system? (you can perform a search if you aren't sure)

Please open the Start Menu, type regedit in the Search field and press Enter. In the Registry Editor, navigate to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\App Paths\wmplayer.exe. What is the value of the (Default) entry there?


"Setup was unable to find Windows Media Player on this computer. Please make sure that at least version 11 of Windows Media Player is installed, this is required to use WMP Tag Plus.

C:\Program Files (x86)\Windows Media Player

The entry wmplayer.exe does not exist in that part of the registry.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 26 January, 2012, 11:41:32 AM
Hmm, that entry should definitely be there when you have WMP installed. Did you perhaps use some kind of registry cleaner?

To re-add the entry, copy/paste the following into Notepad, save it as a WMP.reg file, and double-click this file to add it to the registry. Then launch WMP Tag Plus setup again - it should now find WMP and continue with the rest of the installation.

Code: [Select]
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\App Paths\wmplayer.exe]
@=hex(2):25,00,50,00,72,00,6f,00,67,00,72,00,61,00,6d,00,46,00,69,00,6c,00,65,\
  00,73,00,28,00,78,00,38,00,36,00,29,00,25,00,5c,00,57,00,69,00,6e,00,64,00,\
  6f,00,77,00,73,00,20,00,4d,00,65,00,64,00,69,00,61,00,20,00,50,00,6c,00,61,\
  00,79,00,65,00,72,00,5c,00,77,00,6d,00,70,00,6c,00,61,00,79,00,65,00,72,00,\
  2e,00,65,00,78,00,65,00,00,00
"Path"=hex(2):25,00,50,00,72,00,6f,00,67,00,72,00,61,00,6d,00,46,00,69,00,6c,\
  00,65,00,73,00,28,00,78,00,38,00,36,00,29,00,25,00,5c,00,57,00,69,00,6e,00,\
  64,00,6f,00,77,00,73,00,20,00,4d,00,65,00,64,00,69,00,61,00,20,00,50,00,6c,\
  00,61,00,79,00,65,00,72,00,00,00
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: stephenv2 on 26 January, 2012, 02:24:35 PM
Hmm, that entry should definitely be there when you have WMP installed. Did you perhaps use some kind of registry cleaner?

To re-add the entry, copy/paste the following into Notepad, save it as a WMP.reg file, and double-click this file to add it to the registry. Then launch WMP Tag Plus setup again - it should now find WMP and continue with the rest of the installation.


I do use a registry cleaner - clearly that key is not required for WMP as it's always worked just fine - but that entry fixed the install - seems to have worked just fine. Thanks very much for your help!
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 26 January, 2012, 03:16:09 PM
No problem

This once again shows that registry cleaners usually cause more harm than good. Besides that, there's really no need to 'clean' the registry.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: judderod on 03 February, 2012, 08:35:21 AM
So can I just confirm there is still no fix for getting WMP/WMC to recognise .M4A files with ALAC audio as music and put them in the library?

And the only known fix at the moment is to rename all .M4A files containing ALAC to .MP4 (thus creating another problem that Windows Explorer recognises these files as MPEG-4 Videos?

Looking in the registry I found HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Multimedia\WMPlayer\Extensions\.alac

So I renamed an album's .M4A files to .alac

The files appeared in the music library and played. The track info was there, the album art was there, but the album info was not.

Could this be an option?
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 03 February, 2012, 08:51:43 AM
There already is a fix, although still in beta:

This is a known issue with WMP 12: lossless M4A files are always added to Other media instead of Music. Fortunately, I have recently been able to come up with a fix for this. The fix is included in a new beta version of WMP Tag Plus (download here (http://bmproductions.fixnum.org/links/?linkid=2)).

After installing the beta, existing lossless M4A files in Other media will need to be removed from the library, and re-added (through Tools - Advanced - Restore deleted library items). When re-adding, they should now appear in Music instead.

Please give the fix a try, and let me know if it works alright. Apart from the fix, nothing has been changed in this beta version.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: judderod on 04 February, 2012, 02:29:34 PM
Tim you're THE MAN

Thank you.

I've uninstalled 1.2 and updated to 1.3 beta. All working perfectly.

All I need to do now is hope there will soon be a way to get WMC to play audio to a non-default audio device...
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: zafer on 22 February, 2012, 02:06:24 PM
Hello Tim, hello everyone on this forum. Tim, this is an old question/request I'm raising : is there any chance we get support for musepack (mpc) files in WMP Tag Plus v2 I guess? Again, thanks for all the great work and the efforts
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 22 February, 2012, 03:06:22 PM
TagLib, the tagging library that WMP Tag Plus uses, now does support both Monkey's Audio and Musepack, which makes it possible to have a single handler for APE tags. But unfortunately, Musepack support won't make it in the upcoming 2.0 release.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: zafer on 23 February, 2012, 02:15:44 AM
Yes indeed the Taglib's developper site says
"Currently it supports both ID3v1 and ID3v2 for MP3 files, Ogg Vorbis comments and ID3 tags and Vorbis comments in FLAC, MPC, Speex, WavPack TrueAudio, WAV, AIFF, MP4 and ASF files. "

Well I guess I really have to learn to code now  Anyway, thanks for the good work, at least I have tags for my flacs
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: 73ChargerFan on 25 February, 2012, 04:45:37 PM
New user here, 1.3beta2, Windows 7 x64, WMP12 32bit.  I see that using WMP to create its media library works well, and that library is then used by Media Center x64, so this is great.

Regarding 64 bit support, I hope you can port to it, as most everyone I know uses Win7 x64 now, and I wouldn't count on 32 bit WMP lasting too long.  I use other programs for tag editing so no problem now.

Thank you for your work!
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 25 February, 2012, 07:16:00 PM
I could actually port WMP Tag Plus to 64-bit but I just don't see why I should put all the effort into doing that. Especially not with limited time and much nicer features to add. Since the 32-bit version of WMP is still included with Windows 7 x64 and even the default, WMP Tag Plus still works fine there.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: mercury_22 on 28 February, 2012, 06:14:35 AM
I could actually port WMP Tag Plus to 64-bit but I just don't see why I should put all the effort into doing that. Especially not with limited time and much nicer features to add. Since the 32-bit version of WMP is still included with Windows 7 x64 and even the default, WMP Tag Plus still works fine there.


Because many people are using win (7) x64 & WMC which is, as you know, x64 based (WMP x64) and if someone opens first the music library in WMC the tags are "gone" even if you open after that in the x86 WMP (you have to restore media library in WMP x86) .

Most of the users this days don't even bother with WMP and go directly to WMC (or foobar2000  )

P.S. Also taking in consideration how many people have asked for a x64 version ( from those which bother to  post here) I really think it's a "big"  need for the x64 version
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 28 February, 2012, 03:04:55 PM
Because many people are using win (7) x64 & WMC which is, as you know, x64 based (WMP x64) and if someone opens first the music library in WMC the tags are "gone" even if you open after that in the x86 WMP (you have to restore media library in WMP x86) .

Restoring the media library is overkill in this case - simply deleting the songs without tags from the library and then adding them again will give you tags in the library. WMP Tag Plus 2.0 will even be able to scan the library for songs without tags and re-add them for you. This scan will happen automatically when WMP is first launched after the plug-in's installation, but can also be run manually later on.

I know that there are issues with x64 Media Center because of lacking 64-bit support, but a 32-bit version of the plug-in is what you'll have to do with for now.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: eltonart on 01 March, 2012, 09:07:02 AM
Hi all,

Might be a bit premature, but it seems WMP Tag Plus doesn't work in Windows 8 CP.
Very strange because it looks like WMP and WMC have not changed much but I guess you never know with MS.
WMP version is 12.0.8250.0.
Tried all the usual tricks but there is no tag data for me.
I used it in Windows 7 x86 and x64 in the past with no problems!

Anyone else tried Windows 8?

Thanks, Elton.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: eltonart on 01 March, 2012, 09:17:19 AM
Hi all,

Might be a bit premature, but it seems WMP Tag Plus doesn't work in Windows 8 CP.
Very strange because it looks like WMP and WMC have not changed much but I guess you never know with MS.
WMP version is 12.0.8250.0.
Tried all the usual tricks but there is no tag data for me.
I used it in Windows 7 x86 and x64 in the past with no problems!

Anyone else tried Windows 8?

Thanks, Elton.


Quick update. Just tried WMPTagSupportExtender 1.4 which I stopped using ages ago because WMP Tag Plus is better, and it works. Weird.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 01 March, 2012, 03:27:51 PM
Thanks for reporting this. I haven't had the chance yet to test WMP Tag Plus on Windows 8 CP, but I hope to do so this weekend or later next week. I will report my findings then.

Quick update. Just tried WMPTagSupportExtender 1.4 which I stopped using ages ago because WMP Tag Plus is better, and it works. Weird.

Not very surprising as WMP Tag Support Extender only does some shallow hooking into WMP to provide tagging support. For making things like setting the duration possible, WMP Tag Plus needs to hook much deeper with the drawback that it gets more version dependent.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: eltonart on 01 March, 2012, 07:14:30 PM
Thanks for reporting this. I haven't had the chance yet to test WMP Tag Plus on Windows 8 CP, but I hope to do so this weekend or later next week. I will report my findings then.

Quick update. Just tried WMPTagSupportExtender 1.4 which I stopped using ages ago because WMP Tag Plus is better, and it works. Weird.

Not very surprising as WMP Tag Support Extender only does some shallow hooking into WMP to provide tagging support. For making things like setting the duration possible, WMP Tag Plus needs to hook much deeper with the drawback that it gets more version dependent.


Hi Tim. Thanks for your reply.

OK, I can see this in the way WMP Tag Plus has much tighter integration. I think WMC is the best user experience for a HTPC and FLAC is critical for me to have an enjoyable music experience (die MP3, die!). So your plugin has made this possible in a seamless way. BTW, 8MC is no different to 7MC yet but it's still nice to play with Win8. Thanks for the great plugin.

I just made a donation because we all appreciate your time in developing such an excellent free tool!

Cheers, Elton.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 02 March, 2012, 06:49:35 AM
Thanks for the donation Elton
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 07 March, 2012, 02:21:32 PM
Might be a bit premature, but it seems WMP Tag Plus doesn't work in Windows 8 CP.

I have just tried WMP Tag Plus on Windows 8 CP and can confirm that it's not yet compatible: an error message about a missing core component is displayed at WMP startup and there's no extra tag support at all. The final 2.0 version will be compatible, provided that this doesn't require too much work.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: hunggh on 10 March, 2012, 11:09:35 AM
what time will the final ver 2.0 be released? I am using Win 8 CP and looking forward to your nice work in the next release. WMPPlus 2.1 can not work well without WMP Tag Plus (context to edit tag for flac file disappear)
Sorry for my bad english
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 10 March, 2012, 11:59:35 AM
It will be released when it's done

By the way, Windows Media Player Plus! will also require a new release to make it compatible with Window 8.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: eltonart on 10 March, 2012, 10:52:43 PM
Thanks Tim, looking forward to it.
WMP Plus is not so critical because there are other ways to edit metadata in FLAC.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: RcK17 on 11 March, 2012, 09:37:34 AM
Just wanted to share that only the v1.3beta2 produces the error when starting WMP, v1.2 does not. But the extra tag support did not work at first.

The fix was to either manually set the files to open using WMP (through the file properties dialog) or install taglib property handler v0.3 - these were the two things I did before noticing that WMP now recognizes (at least) flac files.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 11 March, 2012, 11:51:10 AM
WMP Tag Plus's tag support currently never works in Windows 8, regardless of whether the error message is shown or not.

Setting files to open with WMP doesn't affect tag support in any way. When installing a property handler, WMP will use that property handler for tag support instead of WMP Tag Plus.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: RcK17 on 11 March, 2012, 06:52:28 PM
WMP Tag Plus's tag support currently never works in Windows 8, regardless of whether the error message is shown or not.

Setting files to open with WMP doesn't affect tag support in any way. When installing a property handler, WMP will use that property handler for tag support instead of WMP Tag Plus.

Sorry for false info then, I thought the property handler is only supposed to affect Windows Explorer.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: dstrat on 12 March, 2012, 03:10:29 PM
Thanks Tim for your work on WMP Tag - couldn't use the WMP library without it. Looking forward to v2 - it allowing seeking in APE files will be excellent.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: ataribravo on 13 March, 2012, 02:59:01 PM
I did some searching and only found one entry dealing with WMPTagPlus and the original question was never really answered, so my apologies if this is rehash.

I am fairly new to the HTPC world and have spent 3 weeks on the video side of things. I am enterning the domain of music now and having hit and miss success so far. Mainly I want to be able to incorporate my .flac files into a Media Browser plugin called MBMusic 2.0. Since all of my files (flac included) are fully and properly tagged, MB and the plugin will show all of the tag data properly (i.e. cover image, artist, track title, album title and so on). However, once you actually begin to play the selected track(s) the control is given to WMP and there I get, for instance, the filename inplace of the Title, Unknown Artist instead of the Artist Name and the cover art image (which is both embedded in the tag info and in a folder.jpg in the albums folder) won't display.

I was directed to WMPTagPlus with the understanding that installing this utility would allow .flac file tag data to be visable within WMP. Should this be the case? What might I be doing wrong?

I am using WMP 12 in Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit. Of course I am running the 32bit version of WMP 12 in 32bit as that is the default. After installing the utility (WMPTagPLus), I ran "Apply Media Information Changes" under Organize in hopes that WMP would then pick up and apply the tag info from my .flac files. Unfotunatly, this was not the case and my one .flac based folder (for testing purposes) remained unaltered afterword. Another note, I can play the .flac files and can even FF and RWD (which I had read some have trouble with).

The only solution I have found so far (and it's literally a workaround, not a solution) is to convert the .flac files to .wma files using the WMA 9.2 Lossless codec which WMP can see and utilize.

So, where am I going wrong? Thanks for your time and effort!...
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Honeybadger on 14 March, 2012, 06:46:54 PM
I read through the whole forums...maybe I missed this issue or it really isn't one to anyone else.

I am using WMP 12 with WMP Tag Plus and xiph.org and I can play a flac just fine if I open it.

If I try to open a flac by way of my UPNP server (Twonky) I get an error that this file is an unrecognized type and is unplayable in WMP.

Anyone else using it this way and have a solution.

I am very sorry if this has already been addressed and I missed it and am wasting everyone's time...I did search but there are a lot of posts.

Thanks again,
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 15 March, 2012, 12:03:24 PM
I am using WMP 12 in Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit. Of course I am running the 32bit version of WMP 12 in 32bit as that is the default. After installing the utility (WMPTagPLus), I ran "Apply Media Information Changes" under Organize in hopes that WMP would then pick up and apply the tag info from my .flac files. Unfotunatly, this was not the case and my one .flac based folder (for testing purposes) remained unaltered afterword. Another note, I can play the .flac files and can even FF and RWD (which I had read some have trouble with).

(Sorry for not noticing your post earlier but I didn't receive any notification e-mail from these forums like I usually do.)

I'm pretty sure that Apply Media Information Changes isn't going to get tag info for existing FLAC files in the library - for that, the files need to be re-added. Select the files, right-click, Delete - Delete from library only - OK. Then go to Tools - Advanced and select Restore deleted library items (press Ctrl+M if you don't see the Tools menu). The upcoming 2.0 version of WMP Tag Plus can do this for you but for now, it still needs to be done manually.

Also note that the current version doesn't support album art yet, but 2.0 will.

If I try to open a flac by way of my UPNP server (Twonky) I get an error that this file is an unrecognized type and is unplayable in WMP.

This is what I posted earlier about streaming M4A (MPEG-4) files with WMP 11. The same applies to WMP 12 and other formats that aren't natively supported:

WMP Tag Plus was only written with basic library usage in mind, and hasn't been tested with 'extras' such as streaming or syncing. Furthermore, because I personally have never streamed music from my PC, I don't have an idea of what could be the problem. If the problem lies with WMP Tag Plus, then I'm afraid that it will be practically impossible for me to fix it, as there isn't any way for me to reproduce the issue without a media receiver.

One thing you could try is temporarily disabling WMP Tag Plus, and checking if the receiver is able to play M4A files then.

Perhaps there are other people on this forum who know more about streaming, and will be able to help you better than I can. If there's a support forum on the Denon website, I suggest that you post this problem there as well.

So my best advice is to check on the Twonky support forums.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: mystic.bertie on 23 March, 2012, 11:53:20 AM
hi, im running windows 7 and wmp12. When i try to install wmptagplus i get a message telling me to close media player, i do so, then i get a message telling me windows media player is not installed on this pc. Any suggestions guys?

as per a search and a previous post i added this entry to my registry but it aint fixed it


Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\App Paths\wmplayer.exe]
@=hex(2):25,00,50,00,72,00,6f,00,67,00,72,00,61,00,6d,00,46,00,69,00,6c,00,65,\
  00,73,00,28,00,78,00,38,00,36,00,29,00,25,00,5c,00,57,00,69,00,6e,00,64,00,\
  6f,00,77,00,73,00,20,00,4d,00,65,00,64,00,69,00,61,00,20,00,50,00,6c,00,61,\
  00,79,00,65,00,72,00,5c,00,77,00,6d,00,70,00,6c,00,61,00,79,00,65,00,72,00,\
  2e,00,65,00,78,00,65,00,00,00
"Path"=hex(2):25,00,50,00,72,00,6f,00,67,00,72,00,61,00,6d,00,46,00,69,00,6c,\
  00,65,00,73,00,28,00,78,00,38,00,36,00,29,00,25,00,5c,00,57,00,69,00,6e,00,\
  64,00,6f,00,77,00,73,00,20,00,4d,00,65,00,64,00,69,00,61,00,20,00,50,00,6c,\
  00,61,00,79,00,65,00,72,00,00,00
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 23 March, 2012, 12:33:11 PM
Where is the wmplayer.exe file located on your system? (you can perform a search if you aren't sure)

Are you running the 32-bit or 64-bit edition of Windows 7? If you're running the 32-bit edition, please open the Start Menu, type regedit in the Search field and press Enter. In the Registry Editor, navigate to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\App Paths\wmplayer.exe. What are the contents of the (Default) entry there?
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: mystic.bertie on 23 March, 2012, 07:13:23 PM
Where is the wmplayer.exe file located on your system? (you can perform a search if you aren't sure)

Are you running the 32-bit or 64-bit edition of Windows 7? If you're running the 32-bit edition, please open the Start Menu, type regedit in the Search field and press Enter. In the Registry Editor, navigate to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\App Paths\wmplayer.exe. What are the contents of the (Default) entry there?


thanks for the reply, the default entry says 'value not set' and the path for the .exe is  C:\Program Files\Windows Media Player

cheers
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 24 March, 2012, 11:46:15 AM
So I assume that means you're running the 32-bit edition of Windows 7?

That entry should definitely have a default value set. Did you perhaps use a registry 'cleaner'?

Adding the following .reg file to the registry should allow the WMP Tag Plus installer to find WMP again. Note that this file is for the 32-bit Windows 7 only:

Code: [Select]
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\App Paths\wmplayer.exe]
@=hex(2):25,00,50,00,72,00,6f,00,67,00,72,00,61,00,6d,00,46,00,69,00,6c,00,65,\
  00,73,00,25,00,5c,00,57,00,69,00,6e,00,64,00,6f,00,77,00,73,00,20,00,4d,00,\
  65,00,64,00,69,00,61,00,20,00,50,00,6c,00,61,00,79,00,65,00,72,00,5c,00,77,\
  00,6d,00,70,00,6c,00,61,00,79,00,65,00,72,00,2e,00,65,00,78,00,65,00,00,00
"Path"=hex(2):25,00,50,00,72,00,6f,00,67,00,72,00,61,00,6d,00,46,00,69,00,6c,\
  00,65,00,73,00,25,00,5c,00,57,00,69,00,6e,00,64,00,6f,00,77,00,73,00,20,00,\
  4d,00,65,00,64,00,69,00,61,00,20,00,50,00,6c,00,61,00,79,00,65,00,72,00,00,\
  00

Does that help?
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: mystic.bertie on 25 March, 2012, 10:29:38 AM
So I assume that means you're running the 32-bit edition of Windows 7?

That entry should definitely have a default value set. Did you perhaps use a registry 'cleaner'?

Adding the following .reg file to the registry should allow the WMP Tag Plus installer to find WMP again. Note that this file is for the 32-bit Windows 7 only:


yes im running 32 bit W7. I have used registry cleaners in the past but i have read that they dont do any good and more harm on occasions so i dont use them now.

i just added that info to the registry and the wmptagplus installed fine, i opened up wmp and all my flac music is not organised with the tagging. Many thanks for your help much appreciated 
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 25 March, 2012, 11:49:34 AM
Existing FLAC files in the library need to be re-added after installation for their tags to show up. See my post from March 15 for more detailed instructions.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: TGK on 25 March, 2012, 12:14:25 PM
and what makes this program and how to use it?
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: TGK on 25 March, 2012, 12:33:26 PM
all figured out.

is it possible in future to add support for the format mp3 (ID3 v.2.3 or better ID3 v.2.4) and wma, and video formats - avi, wmv, mkv ?

Why then does not want to edit the fields in the mp4 file
: (

All fields are inactive
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 25 March, 2012, 01:21:25 PM
is it possible in future to add support for the format mp3 (ID3 v.2.3 or better ID3 v.2.4) and wma, and video formats - avi, wmv, mkv ?

Windows Media Player already has native support for MP3 ID3v2.3, WMA and WMV. There are no plans yet to add AVI or MKV, as WMP Tag Plus is currently aimed at audio formats only. However, the WMP Tag Plus SDK allows developers to write their own tag support, so support for these formats could be quickly added if there would be volunteers.

Quote
Why then does not want to edit the fields in the mp4 file
All fields are inactive

Which fields do you mean and where? Which version of Windows Media Player and Windows are you using?
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 25 March, 2012, 02:29:48 PM
I would like to announce that the beta version of WMP Tag Plus 2.0 is now available for download here (http://bmproductions.fixnum.org/links/?linkid=5).

Highlights of what's new:

This beta is not yet compatible with Windows 8, but the final release most likely will be.

As this is a beta, it’s not unlikely that there still are some bugs. Please let me know if you encounter any problems, so I can fix them for the final release.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: mystic.bertie on 25 March, 2012, 05:10:15 PM
is there any other way of adding the artwork other than using media player, for flac files, i dont like using its tag tool, i have already tagged all my flac files using another program and so im just wanting to add the artwork for it to display in media player.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 25 March, 2012, 05:45:46 PM
For embedding artwork into FLAC files, you could use the tag editor of the Windows Media Player Plus! (http://bmproductions.fixnum.org/wmpplus/) plug-in, or Mp3tag (http://www.mp3tag.de/en/). Note that you will also need the just-released WMP Tag Plus 2.0 beta (http://bmproductions.fixnum.org/links/?linkid=5) for FLAC artwork support in WMP.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: mystic.bertie on 26 March, 2012, 05:24:22 PM
For embedding artwork into FLAC files, you could use the tag editor of the Windows Media Player Plus! (http://bmproductions.fixnum.org/wmpplus/) plug-in, or Mp3tag (http://www.mp3tag.de/en/). Note that you will also need the just-released WMP Tag Plus 2.0 beta (http://bmproductions.fixnum.org/links/?linkid=5) for FLAC artwork support in WMP.


thanks for the reply but im afraid media player is crashing with the new tag plus 2.0 and when i install the old one my files are no longer organised in media centre, i have tried deleting the files from the library and the database files but still no joy.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 27 March, 2012, 05:28:38 AM
What's the exact error message when WMP crashes with WMP Tag Plus 2.0?

Please post the technical details of the crash here. Open the Start menu, type event in the Search box, and click on Event Viewer in the list of programs. In Event Viewer, go to Windows Logs - Application, and look for Error in that list, there should be such an event for each crash. Double-click the latest event and copy/paste its description into your reply.

Also, would it be possible for you to upload a process dump file of the crash? Please download this file (http://bmproductions.fixnum.org/links/?linkid=4) and double-click it to add it to the registry (if the file gets opened as text in your browser, you need to right-click the link and select Save Target As instead):

When the file has been successfully added to the registry, start WMP again and let it crash once more. After it has crashed, a new file with a name starting with wmplayer.exe should have been created in C:\LocalDumps. You can then send me an e-mail with the file attached, through the E-mail link on the left of the BM-productions website (http://www.bm-productions.tk/). Thanks!
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: mystic.bertie on 27 March, 2012, 10:54:29 AM
from an empty library in wmp and the database files have been deleted too, when i open wmp and the flac files start to load, wmp freezes, when i try to close it i get this

(https://hydrogenaud.io/imgcache.php?id=f83057dced3d39ce4263c5c249b6de16" rel="cached" data-warn="External image, click to view at original size" data-url="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v256/mystic_bertie/c-1.jpg)

i open wmp again


(https://hydrogenaud.io/imgcache.php?id=39aad618c8033a7573895a4b8bb56135" rel="cached" data-warn="External image, click to view at original size" data-url="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v256/mystic_bertie/b-1.jpg)

after clicking close i get this


(https://hydrogenaud.io/imgcache.php?id=2414fee5b9f090e561cb89ac6ffb4cfe" rel="cached" data-warn="External image, click to view at original size" data-url="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v256/mystic_bertie/a-2.jpg)

after this has happened there are no logs in event viewer

(https://hydrogenaud.io/imgcache.php?id=9372a0365505e3580ef0bd6b7addabc1" rel="cached" data-warn="External image, click to view at original size" data-url="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v256/mystic_bertie/d-1.jpg)

im off to try your registry file for local dumps
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: mystic.bertie on 27 March, 2012, 11:03:37 AM
im afraid to say i opened wmp and let it crash twice and no local dump folder has been created on the c:/, i added the registry file twice just to be sure.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 27 March, 2012, 03:01:46 PM
Thank you for posting the screen shots.

This technically isn't a real crash so there indeed won't appear any events in Event Viewer. A process crash dump won't be generated either.

Does WMP keep hanging endlessly or does it respond again after a few minutes?

While it is hanging, please press Ctrl+Alt+Del, start Task Manager and go to the Processes tab. Is the wmplayer.exe process (or perhaps another process) using a lot of CPU? Can you right-click the wmplayer.exe process there, select Create Dump File, and send me the resulting file by e-mail? Thanks!
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 28 March, 2012, 02:02:22 PM
In retrospect, the process dump file that is created through Task Manager will probably be too large to send by e-mail (perhaps you already sent it? - I certainly haven't received anything).

It's a better idea to upload the dump file to a file sharing website like Skydrive or Rapidshare and send me the download link in a private message on this forum.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: mystic.bertie on 30 March, 2012, 11:35:23 AM
https://skydrive.live.com/redir.aspx?cid=7d...&parid=root (https://skydrive.live.com/redir.aspx?cid=7d62cde79ca5b192&resid=7D62CDE79CA5B192!235&parid=root)

https://skydrive.live.com/redir.aspx?cid=7d...&parid=root (https://skydrive.live.com/redir.aspx?cid=7d62cde79ca5b192&resid=7D62CDE79CA5B192!236&parid=root)

hi again sorry for the delay in getting back to you. If i leave wmp it just stays in the hanging state. i have to close it using task manager. if i do this a few times it eventually loads all of the music flac files.

it has left a few files in the local dump folder now i have also saved the dump file using task manager so you have one of each to check, you can download them both from my sky drive see the above link. this saves wondering if i can email the large file its zipped with winrar.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 30 March, 2012, 03:36:07 PM
Thank you very much for uploading the process dump files, they've been really helpful  I now see what the problem is and have finally been able to reproduce it on my test system.

I hope to come up with a fix for this by Sunday evening. I'll definitely keep you posted.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: mystic.bertie on 01 April, 2012, 09:20:32 AM
Thank you very much for uploading the process dump files, they've been really helpful  I now see what the problem is and have finally been able to reproduce it on my test system.

I hope to come up with a fix for this by Sunday evening. I'll definitely keep you posted.


No problem good luck finding a solution 
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 01 April, 2012, 03:04:18 PM
A second beta of WMP Tag Plus 2.0 is now available for download here (http://bmproductions.fixnum.org/links/?linkid=5). This release was necessary because the first beta could cause WMP 12 to hang when files of the newly supported formats were being added to the library. This issue should now be fixed. If you have already installed the first beta then you are highly encouraged to update, especially if you're running Windows 7.

Apart from the fix, the second beta also adds Musepack (.mpc) tagging support. No other changes have been introduced, so that means that Windows 8 is not supported yet.

See my previous post for highlights of what's new in WMP Tag Plus 2.0:

  •     Album art support: no more error messages when pasting art in WMP's library and no need to manually delete album art files. For MPEG-4, FLAC and Vorbis, embedded album art is supported as well.
  •     Monkey's Audio (.ape) tagging support.
  •     Fix for WMP 12 always adding Apple Lossless (ALAC) files to Other media (this was already present in the 1.3 beta).
  •     Refresh song tags: WMP Tag Plus can scan the library for untagged songs of the newly supported formats and re-add these songs to the library, so that you don't need to do this manually. This can be initiated from settings, but will also run once after a clean WMP Tag Plus installation.
  •     WMP Tag Plus will now show a warning at WMP startup if the plug-in is disabled, to prevent untagged songs in the library and tag changes not getting written to file (this warning can be turned off).

Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: mystic.bertie on 02 April, 2012, 04:25:18 PM
Hi good news its working fine for me now, no hanging or anything it just loads all the flac files as it should, nice one mate well done and a big thanks.

i have a few albums in wav format, i can play them but there is no tag support, do you know of a fix for this or should i just convert them to flac??
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: mystic.bertie on 02 April, 2012, 06:00:09 PM
its ok i have used cdex to convert the wav files to flac files, it hought this would be easiest.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 03 April, 2012, 07:06:52 AM
Good to hear that the beta is working fine now

Indeed, I would also have recommended to convert the WAV files to FLAC. The WAV format itself has very poor tagging support, especially compared to FLAC.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: maxw3l on 08 April, 2012, 04:49:17 AM
Hi Tim,

I'm also using Windows 8 CP (an upgrade install from Windows 7). I had WMP Tag Plus 1.2 installed during the upgrade which, as you know, does not function in Windows 8.

Having read the above posts, I've since downloaded and installed 2.0 Beta 2. The package installed fine, however I receive the following error upon loading WMP:

Quote
"One of the core components of WMP Tag Plus is missing or failed to load properly. Please try reinstalling WMP Tag Plus or contact the author if the problem persists."


Have you experienced this? Is there some sort of log I can provide to try and diagnose it?

Max.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 08 April, 2012, 08:57:53 AM
This beta is not yet compatible with Windows 8, but the final release most likely will be.

Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: suur13 on 08 April, 2012, 03:52:20 PM
I must report that this new beta (2.0 beta 2) is not working with ALAC files correctly - they appear again in Other Media section. Refresh in the Tools tab does not help (it always again and again finds my ALAC files as "new" in each scan).

Thing is that that 1.3 beta2 worked fine and those songs were in music section in two setups:
- W7 Ultimate 32-bit by using iTunes/QT installation as filters
- W7 SP1 Ultimate 64-bit (using 32-bit WMP and LAV Audio filters).

After upgrading last setup to 2.0 beta2 ALAC files jumped to Other Media. Even worse - if I go back to 1.3, they stay at Other Media 
I've deleted \\Users\NAME\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Media Player and built Library many times. Switched LAV filters to Bass ones... Tried clean install your plugin... nothing.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 08 April, 2012, 04:15:22 PM
Are you sure that the option to add ALAC files to the Music section is checked, on the Apple Lossless tab of WMP Tag Plus settings?

Would it be possible for you to upload one of the affected ALAC files, so I can try it myself? You can upload it to a file sharing website like Skydrive or Rapidshare and send me the download link in a private message on this forum. Thanks!

Edit: suur13 and I troubleshooted further through PM and we eventually found the cause of the problem: TaglibHandler replaces Windows 7's built-in MPEG-4 property handler with its own handler. This prevents WMP Tag Plus from recognizing ALAC files and from forcing them into the Music section. Uninstalling TaglibHandler didn't help because that didn't re-register the Windows 7 property handler. The solution was to re-register the Windows 7 property handler manually in the registry.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: wigster on 21 April, 2012, 01:27:13 PM
Hi Tim!

Thanks for continuing to work on this!. I've just tried beta 2 (upgrading from v1.2). It seems to work great on Win 7 x64.

However, one niggle: the rescan of previously incompatible files does not update the tags for FLAC files. Previously the album art was not imported and upgrading does not update the WMP library to reflect the new features. When new files are added, they do contain the album art as they should.

Hope this is useful!

Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 21 April, 2012, 07:36:10 PM
Indeed, that's a current limitation of Refresh song tags: it doesn't detect songs that are only missing album art. For now, you will still need to manually re-add those songs to the library to get their album art.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: GHammer on 21 April, 2012, 11:40:30 PM
So, I love this tool and actually prefer WMP on my HTPC.
My problem is that WMP 12 refuses to leave my files alone.
At a minimum, it will change the album art and add its own.
I've tried several things to try and prevent this from happening.
For a while, it seems to work, then I notice the _small and _large are back.

Anyone have success with preventing WMP 12 from changing the tags and the album art in your library?
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: wigster on 22 April, 2012, 05:08:48 AM
Sorry: I had another probleb, but I've fixed it.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 22 April, 2012, 05:42:44 AM
Anyone have success with preventing WMP 12 from changing the tags and the album art in your library?

Did you turn off Retrieve additional information from the Internet in WMP's Options?

To prevent WMP from creating/overwriting album art JPG files, you could try the registry tweak suggested in this thread (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=75461).
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: GHammer on 22 April, 2012, 10:31:54 AM
Anyone have success with preventing WMP 12 from changing the tags and the album art in your library?

Did you turn off Retrieve additional information from the Internet in WMP's Options?

To prevent WMP from creating/overwriting album art JPG files, you could try the registry tweak suggested in this thread (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=75461).

Yes, that setting used to work, however it seems that WMP 12 only honors this setting when it wants to...

I'll give the registry tweak a try. Thanks.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: wigster on 29 April, 2012, 02:51:57 PM
Hi!

Not sure this is WMP Tag Plus related or not. I am on Win 7 x64 and I am running WMP Tag Plus 2 beta 2

I frequently use my WMP to "play to" DLNA devices. Previously I have been able to play native and non-native files from WMP's library on my DLNA-supporting media renderers by using the Play To feature. You select the device and WMP serves the file, and you have the music through your stereo.

At some point this stopped working, and I've now managed to fix it. However, now I can only serve the native files in this way (i.e. MP3 and M4A work), but whenever I try to serve a FLAC file I get an error in the Play To box:

Media is not available
HRESULT: 0x80040374
UPnP error 716

When I look into the Event Viewer logs (Windows/System) there is a WMP-related warning there

The Windows Media Player Network Sharing Service cannot process the request for URI 'http://192.168.1.6:10243/WMPNSSv4/2694848959/0_e0Y2OUQyNjYyLTE4MkEtNEVCNC1CQURCLUEzRjc4NjE1QzBENn0uMC40.jpg?albumArt=true' from IP address '192.168.1.6' due to error '0xc00d1906'.

Following the link given in the error gives a rather bizarre white-text-on-black-background graphic with the error "The image 'http://blabla...' cannot be displayed because it contains errors."

Why WMP Networking Service seems to be serving images instead of music files, I have no idea, but I know next to nothing about the DLNA protocol.

Unfortunately, I don't know whether this is related to my having upgraded to WMPT+ 2, upgraded the Shark codecs in the mean time, or something else completely. As I say, I had another unrelated issue which was preventing me from using this, but I think I've resolved it fully. Of course without WMPT+ I would not be able to serve any of these files at all, but I don't know quite how all the lilbrary enhancers/codecs/DLNA business interface.

Is this something that anyone else tries to do?

Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: wigster on 29 April, 2012, 04:22:15 PM
Additional: I have tried reinstalling WMP Tag 1.2 and this did not fix the issue, unfortunately. Still, if anyone has any ideas what could be causing it, they would be much appreciated.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 30 April, 2012, 02:03:49 PM
Do you still get the same error with WMP Tag Plus uninstalled? If so, then you should probably look for the cause with the codecs that were changed. As far as I know, WMP Tag Plus has little to do with the Play To feature.

I'm afraid that I know as little about DLNA as you seem to do, so that's all the help I can provide for now.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: wigster on 30 April, 2012, 04:47:07 PM
Do you still get the same error with WMP Tag Plus uninstalled? If so, then you should probably look for the cause with the codecs that were changed. As far as I know, WMP Tag Plus has little to do with the Play To feature.


Unfortunately, without WMPT+ I don't have the problematic FLAC files in my library, so it's not even possible to fail! Thanks!
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 01 May, 2012, 09:59:21 AM
Just make sure that the FLAC files are already in WMP's library before uninstalling WMP Tag Plus. The FLAC files will then stay in the library, even when WMP Tag Plus isn't installed.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: schottjy on 01 May, 2012, 01:43:53 PM
Hi Tim,

I've installed WMP Tag Plus 2.0b2 on a Windows 7 Home Premium x64 bit machine which I'm using to run Windows 7 Media Center (x64). For decode support,
I also have installed the Xiph FLAC codec package. This setup seems to work great for both WMP12 and WMC7 running locally on my PC.

However, primarily I am using Xbox 360s as Media Center Extenders for my TVs. This does not seem to be working properly with this setup. The FLAC tag files are not being read properly and I'm getting the following error in my Windows Media Center application event log:

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Log Name:	  Media Center
Source: Microsoft-Windows-Media Center Extender
Date:   4/30/2012 9:30:06 PM
Event ID:   107
Task Category: Session Enforcement
Level: Warning
Keywords:  
User:   explorer\Mcx1-EXPLORER
Computer:   explorer
Description:
An unauthorized window was detected while running Windows Media Center, 'WMP Tag Plus', with file name 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Windows Media Player\wmplayer.exe'.
Event Xml:
<Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
  <System>
<Provider Name="Microsoft-Windows-Media Center Extender" Guid="{7B7838A3-6562-4269-BB7A-97B0D9593882}" />
<EventID>107</EventID>
<Version>0</Version>
<Level>3</Level>
<Task>1</Task>
<Opcode>0</Opcode>
<Keywords>0x8000000000000000</Keywords>
<TimeCreated SystemTime="2012-05-01T01:30:06.870432400Z" />
<EventRecordID>132</EventRecordID>
<Correlation />
<Execution ProcessID="4344" ThreadID="2560" />
<Channel>Media Center</Channel>
<Computer>explorer</Computer>
<Security UserID="S-1-5-21-2907086231-552969432-3693767780-1003" />
  </System>
  <EventData>
<Data Name="Title">WMP Tag Plus</Data>
<Data Name="File">C:\Program Files (x86)\Windows Media Player\wmplayer.exe</Data>
  </EventData>
</Event>
I also seem to be getting this, perhaps related message:

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Log Name:	  Media Center
Source: Microsoft-Windows-Media Center Extender
Date:   4/30/2012 9:45:06 PM
Event ID:   107
Task Category: Session Enforcement
Level: Warning
Keywords:  
User:   explorer\Mcx1-EXPLORER
Computer:   explorer
Description:
An unauthorized window was detected while running Windows Media Center, 'Windows Media Player Library', with file name 'C:\Windows\SysWOW64\msdt.exe'.
Event Xml:
<Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
  <System>
<Provider Name="Microsoft-Windows-Media Center Extender" Guid="{7B7838A3-6562-4269-BB7A-97B0D9593882}" />
<EventID>107</EventID>
<Version>0</Version>
<Level>3</Level>
<Task>1</Task>
<Opcode>0</Opcode>
<Keywords>0x8000000000000000</Keywords>
<TimeCreated SystemTime="2012-05-01T01:45:06.901221800Z" />
<EventRecordID>133</EventRecordID>
<Correlation />
<Execution ProcessID="4344" ThreadID="2560" />
<Channel>Media Center</Channel>
<Computer>explorer</Computer>
<Security UserID="S-1-5-21-2907086231-552969432-3693767780-1003" />
  </System>
  <EventData>
<Data Name="Title">Windows Media Player Library</Data>
<Data Name="File">C:\Windows\SysWOW64\msdt.exe</Data>
  </EventData>
</Event>
When uninstalling WMP Tag Plus, I do not see these error messages being generated performing the same tasks. I've also tried uninstalling 2.0b2, cleaning my
library and installing the 1.2 release. This did not remedy the errors.

After a bit more digging tonight, it seems to be related to the launching of the WMP Tag Plus preference window when using this software for the first time. Windows 7 Media Center seems to create/remove new Windows user accounts (and HKEY_USERS registry hives) dynamically when Media Center Extender sessions are connected/disconnected.

Is it possible to create a test version which doesn't open this preference window and instead just uses the defaults? I was only able to notice one particular key being created (HKEY_USERS\<USER>\Software\BM-productions\WMP Tag Plus). Are there others that need to be configured?

If you know that this particular setup (or some other configuration) works for Windows Media Extenders, please let me know and I'll re-install everything. Trying to work out all the kinks before I take this setup live for the family. I can successfully play the files regardless of this, but no tags is obviously a no-go.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 01 May, 2012, 02:59:48 PM
However, primarily I am using Xbox 360s as Media Center Extenders for my TVs. This does not seem to be working properly with this setup.

WMP Tag Plus hasn't been tested at all in this setup, so it's not really surprising that there are issues.

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The FLAC tag files are not being read properly

Please provide some more info on this. Do you mean for FLAC files that are added while using the Media Center Extender? Or doesn't the Media Center Extender display the tags for any FLAC file? Does this work alright in WMP?

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Is it possible to create a test version which doesn't open this preference window and instead just uses the defaults? I was only able to notice one particular key being created (HKEY_USERS\<USER>\Software\BM-productions\WMP Tag Plus). Are there others that need to be configured?

I will PM you the download link to a WMP Tag Plus version that doesn't show the settings window when the main WMP window isn't visible (e.g. when using Media Center). Please install it on top of the current version and let me know if it fixes those error messages in the event log. If it does, the fix will be included in the final 2.0 release. Thanks!
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: schottjy on 01 May, 2012, 03:57:31 PM
However, primarily I am using Xbox 360s as Media Center Extenders for my TVs. This does not seem to be working properly with this setup.

WMP Tag Plus hasn't been tested at all in this setup, so it's not really surprising that there are issues.

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The FLAC tag files are not being read properly

Please provide some more info on this. Do you mean for FLAC files that are added while using the Media Center Extender? Or doesn't the Media Center Extender display the tags for any FLAC file? Does this work alright in WMP?


The extenders see the FLAC media in the music browser, but none of the tag information (artist, title, track length, cover art, etc.) is displayed. All music is Unknown Artist/Unknown Album/Unknown Track, etc. The music plays file.

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Is it possible to create a test version which doesn't open this preference window and instead just uses the defaults? I was only able to notice one particular key being created (HKEY_USERS\<USER>\Software\BM-productions\WMP Tag Plus). Are there others that need to be configured?

I will PM you the download link to a WMP Tag Plus version that doesn't show the settings window when the main WMP window isn't visible (e.g. when using Media Center). Please install it on top of the current version and let me know if it fixes those error messages in the event log. If it does, the fix will be included in the final 2.0 release. Thanks!


Thanks, I'm going to do a clean install of everything tonight (since I have attempted some registry hackery and used a mix/match of codecs trying to get this going). I'll install this test version and report back to you.

Thanks!
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: schottjy on 01 May, 2012, 06:39:54 PM
Thanks, I'm going to do a clean install of everything tonight (since I have attempted some registry hackery and used a mix/match of codecs trying to get this going). I'll install this test version and report back to you.

Thanks!


Hrm. Spoke too soon earlier. 2 of 3 extenders working. Let me dig some more.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: schottjy on 03 May, 2012, 09:41:56 PM
Thanks, I'm going to do a clean install of everything tonight (since I have attempted some registry hackery and used a mix/match of codecs trying to get this going). I'll install this test version and report back to you.

Thanks!


Hrm. Spoke too soon earlier. 2 of 3 extenders working. Let me dig some more.


Removing and re-adding the non-functional extender seems seems to have fixed the issue I was seeing. All the 360s extenders can see the metadata.
The error messages in the event logs are completely gone as well. I plan to do a clean install this weekend and will report back if I see any other issues.

Thanks!
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 04 May, 2012, 05:38:41 AM
Good to hear that both issues are now resolved
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: andrewfg on 06 May, 2012, 12:00:12 PM
I frequently use my WMP to "play to" DLNA devices. Previously I have been able to play native and non-native files from WMP's library on my DLNA-supporting media renderers by using the Play To feature. You select the device and WMP serves the file, and you have the music through your stereo.

At some point this stopped working, and I've now managed to fix it. However, now I can only serve the native files in this way (i.e. MP3 and M4A work), but whenever I try to serve a FLAC file I get an error in the Play To box:


Hi Wigster, as you know, we have been discussing this over on another forum too...

There are two types of codec architecture namely DirectShow and Media Foundation. The former is the old way of doing it, and the latter the new way.

Windows Media Player 12 uses Media Foundation for all its own core codecs, and it can be extended to support other media types by means of additional third party codecs. As far as I can tell, WMP12 can use both DirectShow codecs and Media Foundation codecs for extending its "Play" (to the local PC speakers) command, however it seems that it requires a Media Foundation codec for extending its UPnP/DLNA "Play To" (a remote player) command.

So, in order to support both "Play"  and "Play To"  of FLAC files, you will need to uninstall the DirectShow codec associated with FLAC files, and instead install a Media Foundation codec for playing FLAC. There seems to be only one Media Foundation codec for FLAC in existence. I have tested it and it works fine. You can get it here http://sourceforge.net/projects/mfflac/files/ (http://sourceforge.net/projects/mfflac/files/)

And if you install Tim's latest WMP Tag Plus v2.0 beta, that works perfectly alongside this codec.



Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: wigster on 06 May, 2012, 01:28:54 PM
And if you install Tim's latest WMP Tag Plus v2.0 beta, that works perfectly alongside this codec.


Hi,

So I have managed to get DLNA streaming of FLACs working, as per AndrewFG's instructions. There seems to be a niggle, which may be related to WMP Tag Plus (2 beta 2): when you select a FLAC file to stream to a DLNA device, a playlist appears in a "Play To" windows. Next to each track is the album art. However, it doesn't seem to appear for all the FLAC files. I wanted to say that it appears for none, but in fact I have managed to find at least one which seems to work.

I am providing links to two FLAC files, which have album art embedded and one of which displays the album art in the Play To window OK, while the other one doesn't Hope this is something replicable.

The healthy one:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15242944/Aitcho%20...%20Plastic.flac (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15242944/Aitcho%20-%20House%20of%20Plastic.flac)

and the one not displaying album art:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15242944/07%202562...20Hardcore.flac (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15242944/07%202562-This%20Is%20Hardcore.flac)

If I look at the hidden files, the second folder contains the AlbumArt_{wgwenflwejfwjfwfjwe} files, while the one that works---does not. They both have the AlbumArtSmall.jpg and Folder.jpg. I did wipe the libraries completely after installing WMP Tag+ 2, but maybe the broken album I had previously identified by looking for it through WMP's tagger and now there is some conflict?



Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: andrewfg on 07 May, 2012, 02:19:36 AM
I am providing links to two FLAC files, which have album art embedded and one of which displays the album art in the Play To window OK, while the other one doesn't Hope this is something replicable.


Yes I can replicate this. And it is certainly an issue on the WMP side of things rather than on the UPnP player side, because in fact in both cases WMP is serving an art image. But in one of your tracks the image is the real cover art of the track, whereas in the other case, it is WMP's "music note" place holder image.

I am using WMP Tag Plus 2.0 beta 2
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 07 May, 2012, 08:33:36 AM
I am providing links to two FLAC files, which have album art embedded and one of which displays the album art in the Play To window OK, while the other one doesn't Hope this is something replicable.

I can confirm that both the FLAC files you linked contain correctly embedded album art and that the album art gets read by WMP Tag Plus.

Do both FLAC files show album art in WMP's library, and in Now Playing mode when playing them with the Album art visualization set?

Perhaps removing the FLAC file not displaying album art from the library and then re-adding it will help?
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: andrewfg on 07 May, 2012, 09:49:20 AM
Do both FLAC files show album art in WMP's library, and in Now Playing mode when playing them with the Album art visualization set?

Yes, both the tracks display their cover art correctly in WMP itself. And when WMP sends a UPnP/DLNA SetAvTransportUri() command to play a track to a remote media player, in both cases the command includes all of the respective track's meta data, and also an albumArtURI where the cover art can be retrieved from.

The "only" odd thing is that when the remote player does an HTTP GET for the albumArtURI, in one case WMP returns the proper cover art image, and in the other case it returns the WMP default "music note" image. This indicates that WMP12 has difficulty in loading/rendering/serving the image via HTTP, and that it therefore defaults back to the "music note" image.

Both images are JPEGs so perhaps the bad one has non conform JPEG header data in it so that WMP cannot determine the proper mime type, image width, height or depth. Another problem could be that the WMP server has to resize the image (to size JPEG_SM), and perhaps the bad image lacks some clues or headers for this resizing process. In either case, it could be that 1) the actual image in the tag data is bad, or 2) the WMP Tag Plus image extractor is munging the image in some way...

Edit: to be precise, when I speak of the "Windows Media Player UPnP/DLNA server" this means the "Windows Media Player Network Sharing Service" which is a Windows Service Application that does the actual serving of media to remote players (among other things). When a meta data plugin such as WMP Tag Plus scans a music track, it adds the respective meta data and cover art images to the WMP database. And when WMP NSS serves a cover art image, it retrieves that from the WMP database.

Perhaps removing the FLAC file not displaying album art from the library and then re-adding it will help?

No this did not help.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: andrewfg on 07 May, 2012, 01:14:11 PM
Perhaps removing the FLAC file not displaying album art from the library and then re-adding it will help?


I also tried modifying the tags of the track "House of Plastic" using Mp3Tag; I deleted the cover art and saved the track, deleted and reloaded WMPs library, added the cover image back and saved the track again, and deleted and reloaded WMPs library once more. And still the cover art is not displayed in the UPnP renderer.

Edit: I even tried converting the file from FLAC to WAV and then converting the WAV back to FLAC again. And still the cover art is not displayed in the UPnP renderer.

The only thing "odd" about this track is that it is sampled at 44100 Hz, 2 channel, 24 bit. I wonder if this makes a difference? (I did not have any tool handy to try resampling it down to 16 bit).

=> Very interesting....
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 08 May, 2012, 03:42:44 PM
The "only" odd thing is that when the remote player does an HTTP GET for the albumArtURI, in one case WMP returns the proper cover art image, and in the other case it returns the WMP default "music note" image. This indicates that WMP12 has difficulty in loading/rendering/serving the image via HTTP, and that it therefore defaults back to the "music note" image.

Wait, this is on the remote player, while wigster is referring to the Play To window which I believe is still on the local PC. I just want to make sure that we're talking about the same issue here.

Could you please post both these URIs? Perhaps they contain some clues on where the WMP Network Sharing Service tries to get the album art from.

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Both images are JPEGs so perhaps the bad one has non conform JPEG header data in it so that WMP cannot determine the proper mime type, image width, height or depth. Another problem could be that the WMP server has to resize the image (to size JPEG_SM), and perhaps the bad image lacks some clues or headers for this resizing process. In either case, it could be that 1) the actual image in the tag data is bad, or 2) the WMP Tag Plus image extractor is munging the image in some way...

The only difference I'm seeing is that the not functioning JPEG is 700x700 while the one that does show is 500x500, so it could be related to the dimensions. 1) and 2) are very unlikely as the album art gets correctly displayed in WMP.

The only thing "odd" about this track is that it is sampled at 44100 Hz, 2 channel, 24 bit. I wonder if this makes a difference? (I did not have any tool handy to try resampling it down to 16 bit).

Also very unlikely that the format of the audio data would cause album art issues. FLAC metadata blocks are separated from audio frames.

If you open the FLAC file that doesn't work in Mp3tag and go to Extended Tags, do you see any WM/WMCOLLECTIONGROUPID, WM/WMCOLLECTIONID and/or WM/WMCONTENTID tags? Does it help if you remove the file from the library, delete those tags, and then re-add the file again?
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: andrewfg on 09 May, 2012, 12:30:44 PM
Wait, this is on the remote player, while wigster is referring to the Play To window which I believe is still on the local PC. I just want to make sure that we're talking about the same issue here.

We are talking about the same issue. Just two aspects thereof. On the local machine, the WMP NSS "Player App" displays the default music note image. And the same music note image is served to the physical player when does its HTTP GET on WMP NSS.

Could you please post both these URIs? Perhaps they contain some clues on where the WMP Network Sharing Service tries to get the album art from.

I am on the road at the moment so I can't tell you the exact URI until I get back next week. But it is a URI on a Windows O/S internal server that responds with an HTTP SERVER header having something like "Windows Media Network Streaming Service" in it....

The only difference I'm seeing is that the not functioning JPEG is 700x700 while the one that does show is 500x500, so it could be related to the dimensions. 1) and 2) are very unlikely as the album art gets correctly displayed in WMP.


I don't think so. I actually tried in Mp3Tag to export the image to a JPEG, deleted it from the track tag, then used Paint to manipulate the image and save as a PNG, and then reimport that into the track tags again. Still the same behaviour.

Also very unlikely that the format of the audio data would cause album art issues. FLAC metadata blocks are separated from audio frames.


Indeed unlikely. But frankly I cannot think of anything else that could explain this issue. Wigsters good track had a 700x700 image in a 44100/16/2 file and the bad one has a 500x500 image (or whatever) in a 44100/24/2 track.

If you open the FLAC file that doesn't work in Mp3tag and go to Extended Tags, do you see any WM/WMCOLLECTIONGROUPID, WM/WMCOLLECTIONID and/or WM/WMCONTENTID tags? Does it help if you remove the file from the library, delete those tags, and then re-add the file again?


As mentioned before, I am on the road, so cannot check this until I get back. But this is an interesting line of inquiry. I also did wonder if there might be some trash in the other tags (e.g. invalid characters, invalid tag names, invalid tag wrappers, etc.) that could be causing this upset. I did also wonder if (for example) the track may be one with ID3 tags instead of FLAC tags (say).

Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 12 May, 2012, 07:04:32 PM
Announcement: WMP Tag Plus 2.0 has gone out of beta and the final version (http://bmproductions.fixnum.org/wmptagplus/) is now available for download.

Changes since the last beta:

See the Version History page (http://bmproductions.fixnum.org/wmptagplus/history.htm) for a detailed list of what's new and what has been fixed.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: RcK17 on 13 May, 2012, 02:59:39 AM
Working fine so far on Windows 8 CP. Album art shows up nicely, as well as APE tags. Thanks!
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: andrewfg on 17 May, 2012, 08:26:57 AM
If you open the FLAC file that doesn't work in Mp3tag and go to Extended Tags, do you see any WM/WMCOLLECTIONGROUPID, WM/WMCOLLECTIONID and/or WM/WMCONTENTID tags? Does it help if you remove the file from the library, delete those tags, and then re-add the file again?


No, the file in question does not have these tags in it. And interestingly Wigsters other file (the one that works) does have those tags in it. So I can confirm two ways that these tags are not the cause of the problem.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: andrewfg on 17 May, 2012, 08:39:59 AM
Could you please post both these URIs? Perhaps they contain some clues on where the WMP Network Sharing Service tries to get the album art from.

Here is the good one:
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http://192.168.1.33:10243/WMPNSSv4/813663920/e0VENkY5NjRBLTFBQjAtNDU2NS1BNDRDLTgxMDNFQUIzOTZGNX0uMC40.jpg?albumArt=true,formatID=13

And the bad one:
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http://192.168.1.33:10243/WMPNSSv4/813663920/ezhGRDM4NTRDLTcyQjUtNEVCMS04MTYyLUY4Q0UwNkZCRUUzM30uMC40.jpg?albumArt=true,formatID=13

And here is a trace of an HTTP GET on the bad url...
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GET /WMPNSSv4/813663920/ezhGRDM4NTRDLTcyQjUtNEVCMS04MTYyLUY4Q0UwNkZCRUUzM30uMC40.jpg?albumArt=true,formatID=13 HTTP/1.1
Accept: text/html, application/xhtml+xml, */*
Accept-Language: en-GB
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; MSIE 9.0; Windows NT 6.1; Trident/5.0)
Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate
Host: 192.168.1.33:10243
Connection: Keep-Alive

HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Content-Length: 9075
Content-Type: image/jpeg
Server: Microsoft-HTTPAPI/2.0
Accept-Ranges: bytes
TransferMode.DLNA.ORG: Interactive
Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 12:31:09 GMT

...returns the WMP default "music note" image...


Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 17 May, 2012, 11:22:58 AM
Thanks for providing the additional info. Unfortunately I don't see any clues in the URIs or the HTTP trace either, as I would have hoped.

I just saw that wigster had reported an error in Event Viewer that was related to such an URI:

When I look into the Event Viewer logs (Windows/System) there is a WMP-related warning there

The Windows Media Player Network Sharing Service cannot process the request for URI 'http://192.168.1.6:10243/WMPNSSv4/2694848959/0_e0Y2OUQyNjYyLTE4MkEtNEVCNC1CQURCLUEzRjc4NjE1QzBENn0uMC40.jpg?albumArt=true' from IP address '192.168.1.6' due to error '0xc00d1906'.

Please check if you are getting the same error or perhaps a different one.

Another thing left to try is to put just the problematic FLAC file together with its album art JPG files (including Folder.jpg) into a separate folder, and check if album art gets displayed for the file then.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: 73ChargerFan on 18 May, 2012, 12:37:34 AM
andrewfg,

I'm jumping in - can you add the image from the file that doesn't work, into the one that does?  And visa-versa.  That might show that it is the jpeg image that is causing the problem.

eac3to can downcovert flac from 24bit to 16bit, command line is:
eac3to input.flac output.flac -down16
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Lieuandy on 19 May, 2012, 06:43:02 AM
I installed version 2 and tagging whatsoever works fine, but I have a problem.

When selecting any AVI videos from the video library short-cut (left side of explorer window), every time when closing WMP 12, error said that WMP has stopped working. The fault module  is wmptagplus.dll_unloaded. This happens only with AVI video, other video types are ok.

However if I select AVI files using explorer from direct file location or select within WMP, it has no problem.
Surprisingly using previous version 1.2 does not has this issue.

I am running windows 7 64-bit but using WMP 32-bit only.

It is not a big issue but only annoyance that wmp cannot close properly. Can anyone help on this.

Thanks.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 19 May, 2012, 10:09:17 AM
Thanks for the detailed report  WMP Tag Plus 2.0 indeed seems to cause a WMP crash when performing the actions you described. I'll start working on a fix and will post a new announcement here when it is available for download.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: andrewfg on 22 May, 2012, 12:34:40 PM
When I look into the Event Viewer logs (Windows/System) there is a WMP-related warning there

The Windows Media Player Network Sharing Service cannot process the request for URI 'http://192.168.1.6:10243/WMPNSSv4/2694848959/0_e0Y2OUQyNjYyLTE4MkEtNEVCNC1CQURCLUEzRjc4NjE1QzBENn0uMC40.jpg?albumArt=true' from IP address '192.168.1.6' due to error '0xc00d1906'.

Please check if you are getting the same error or perhaps a different one.

Yes, I see the same error in the log.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 23 May, 2012, 03:58:13 PM
Unfortunately searching the web for that 0xc00d1906 error code doesn't bring up anything interesting. I'll try digging a bit deeper to find out what exactly that error code means (such as in the Windows SDK).
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: andrewfg on 24 May, 2012, 12:09:04 PM
I'll try digging a bit deeper to find out what exactly that error code means (such as in the Windows SDK).

Ok.

In the meantime, I tried a few more things.

{Background the FLAC track "House of Plastic" is the bad one that shows its cover art in WMP12 but won't show its cover art on the remote renderer via WMP's Play To}

1) Using MP3Tag, I tried deleting the cover art from "House of Plastic", and adding a completely different picture. Result: still won't show its cover art on "Play To"...

2) Using FooBar, I tried converting "House of Plastic" from 24bit FLAC to 16bit FLAC. Result: still won't show its cover art on "Play To"...

3) Using MP3Tag, I tried exporting the cover art from "House of Plastic" to "folder.jpg", and deleting it from the FLAC tags. Result: now shows its cover art on "Play To"...

Hmmm...
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 25 May, 2012, 04:15:55 PM
{Background the FLAC track "House of Plastic" is the bad one that shows its cover art in WMP12 but won't show its cover art on the remote renderer via WMP's Play To}

This adds some more confusion because wigster clearly indicated that it was the other track ('This Is Hardcore') for which album art wasn't displayed. I am now starting to believe that Play To only shows the album art contained within the Folder.jpg file, and that it doesn't really matter whether album art is embedded or not.

I have also done some more searching for a description of the 0xc00d1906 error, but failed to find anything. The error code isn't even described in the latest Windows 8 SDK.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: andrewfg on 26 May, 2012, 03:17:20 AM
I am now starting to believe that Play To only shows the album art contained within the Folder.jpg file, and that it doesn't really matter whether album art is embedded or not.


No. That's not true. I does show embedded art. And most times it seems to work too.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 26 May, 2012, 10:23:41 AM
It's simply impossible that Play To shows the embedded album art directly, as WMP Tag Plus only runs within the context of WMP, and never within the context of the Network Sharing Service. Hence, the Network Sharing Service itself cannot get embedded FLAC album art (or any FLAC tags for that matter).

So there must be some indirection, which is probably Folder.jpg. WMP first gets the embedded album art, with the help of WMP Tag Plus, and saves it to a Folder.jpg file. That file is then used by the Network Sharing Service to serve it to Play To.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: andrewfg on 27 May, 2012, 05:57:24 AM
It's simply impossible that Play To shows the embedded album art directly, as WMP Tag Plus only runs within the context of WMP, and never within the context of the Network Sharing Service. Hence, the Network Sharing Service itself cannot get embedded FLAC album art (or any FLAC tags for that matter).

So there must be some indirection, which is probably Folder.jpg. WMP first gets the embedded album art, with the help of WMP Tag Plus, and saves it to a Folder.jpg file. That file is then used by the Network Sharing Service to serve it to Play To.


There is certainly some indirection, but I don't think it is via folder.jpg Otherwise different tracks in the same folder would show the same cover art -- which is not the observed case.

I think the indirection is as follows: in WMP12 you select the Play To command; this starts the Play To applet; the Play To applet interrogates the Windows Network Sharing Service to get media meta data; and then NSS either 1) asks WMP for the metadata, or 2) extracts the meta data directly from the WMP database cache.

The oddity is that in either option 1) or 2) NSS it (sometimes) fails to return the proper cover art image, and (sometimes) returns the WMP default music note image instead...
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: zafer on 27 May, 2012, 06:34:23 AM
Hi Tim, Hi everyone here

Firstly, thousands thanks for including musepack support in this release. Finally, a stable plug-in, and very fast. Thanks for the great work Tim, and everybody who helped testing!

I just made several tests, using mpc tunes.
I still have no time length tags imported from the musepack tunes.
I also noted that the "Album Artist" tag is not imported (I tried both with "compilation" tag set top 1 or left empty).

How can I be of any help to solve those ?

Running Windows 7 x86, WMP12.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 28 May, 2012, 09:06:17 AM
There is certainly some indirection, but I don't think it is via folder.jpg Otherwise different tracks in the same folder would show the same cover art -- which is not the observed case.

Is it possible to use Play To without WMP running at all, i.e. by choosing it from Explorer's context menu?

Besides Folder.jpg, there are also AlbumArt_{GUID}_* files that allow tracks in the same folder to have different album art. The GUID in these filenames is the content of the song's WM/WMCollectionID tag, which can be viewed with the tag editor of my Windows Media Player Plus! plug-in (on the Advanced tab).

Then there's also WMP's album art cache in %LOCALAPPDATA%\Microsoft\Media Player\Art Cache\LocalMLS, but these should just all be cached copies of the Folder.jpg and AlbumArt_* files.

By the way, I'm still confused by the fact that you're not reporting the same troublesome track as wigster did. Wigster, could you please shed some light on this?

I still have no time length tags imported from the musepack tunes.
I also noted that the "Album Artist" tag is not imported (I tried both with "compilation" tag set top 1 or left empty).

Please try re-adding the MPC files to the library. Make sure that WMP Tag Plus is checked in Tools - Plug-ins, select the MPC files, right-click, Delete - Delete from library only - OK. Then go to Tools - Advanced and select Restore deleted library items.

If that doesn't help, how were these files created? Would it be possible to upload one of these files through something like http://www.yousendit.com (http://www.yousendit.com), and PM me the download link? Thanks!
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: zafer on 28 May, 2012, 11:03:59 AM
If that doesn't help, how were these files created? Would it be possible to upload one of these files through something like http://www.yousendit.com (http://www.yousendit.com), and PM me the download link? Thanks!


Hey Tim, thanks for replying so soon.

I tested the issue thouroughly. I did what you told me to do, and I still get no length reading in the library. Prior to that (yesterday) I had WMP rescan all the library (dy deleting the database files in %userprofile%\Local Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Media Player).
So I checked the issue several times.

Here is what I got :
- Song Title, Artist, Album, Year, Track Number, Genre : those are read OK
- length : not read
- Rating : not read
- Album Artist : not read. It reads Artist instead, and according to file/folder context, it sets Album Artist = Artist OR Various Artists
- Compilation (value 0 or 1) not read or ignored (but that is perhaps not an issue).

Just PMed you with the link to a test file (musepack)

Thanks, Zafer.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: zafer on 28 May, 2012, 12:52:47 PM
Hey Tim, this could be useful : it seems that (for mpc tunes) the plug-in sends length data to the library, but incorrect format or null.
Because now, I can't seek in the tune even if I open the tune from Explorer instead of WMP library.
When I do so (ie open an mpc tune from Explorer), I see the length information which disappears almost immediately, which would mean, I guess, that Explorer sends legnth information properly, which is immediately superseded by the data in the library.
Which means that the length tag is present in the library, but incorrect. Am I right ?
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 28 May, 2012, 03:29:15 PM
Thank you for uploading the file. By looking at the file's tags, I see that it has been created by MAGIX Samplitude. Is this correct?

TagLib, the tagging library that WMP Tag Plus uses, also returns a track length of zero. This probably points to a bug in TagLib which might be related to the Musepack SV8 format. I have filed a bug here (https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=300777).

Ratings are never read by WMP Tag Plus. This is by design, as rating is something personal that should not be stored in music files. WMP Tag Plus currently doesn't read Compilation either.

Album artist isn't read because WMP Tag Plus looks for an ALBUM ARTIST tag, while the file you uploaded contains ALBUMARTIST (without the space). According to this page (http://musicbrainz.org/doc/MusicBrainz_Picard/Tags/Mapping), the name with space should be used. However, these tag names are all but standard or fixed, and I might add support for the name without space as well in a future version - as is currently already the case for FLAC/Vorbis tags.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: zafer on 28 May, 2012, 04:41:43 PM
Thank you for uploading the file. By looking at the file's tags, I see that it has been created by MAGIX Samplitude. Is this correct?

TagLib, the tagging library that WMP Tag Plus uses, also returns a track length of zero. This probably points to a bug in TagLib which might be related to the Musepack SV8 format. I have filed a bug].

Exactly;) it was exported from Samplitude, then compressed using dBPowerAmp which keeps the tags while converting,  and thank you very much for filing the bug  I've just made some SV7 files : length tag was read properly. As you said, the issue is related to sv8 only.

Ratings are never read by WMP Tag Plus. This is by design, as rating is something personal that should not be stored in music files. WMP Tag Plus currently doesn't read Compilation either.

It is logical, indeed. I guess I took the bad habit of setting the rating in the file's header because I had to reset the library database very often due to frequent problems with the older tag plug-in that I had no choice but to use. Thanks for the info

Album artist isn't read because WMP Tag Plus looks for an ALBUM ARTIST tag, while the file you uploaded contains ALBUMARTIST (without the space). (...) I might add support for the name without space as well in a future version - as is currently already the case for FLAC/Vorbis tags.

Well thanks, and now I'll stick to the current version since it is very stable, and wait for next update.
Again many Thanks and Regards.


Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 02 June, 2012, 03:34:35 PM
Announcement: WMP Tag Plus 2.1 (http://bmproductions.fixnum.org/wmptagplus/) has been released. This minor update fixes a possible crash when closing WMP on Windows 7 (as reported earlier in this thread by Lieuandy). Updating is recommended if you're running Windows 7.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: andrewfg on 09 June, 2012, 12:30:03 PM
The following question to Tim is perhaps not directly related to WMP Tag Plus...

By default WMP loads M4A tracks into the "Other Media" folder. And in WMP Tag Plus you did some magic to persuade WMP that M4A files shall be loaded into the "Music" folder instead.

And also by default WMP loads AIFF tracks into the "Other Media" folder too. This is odd, because WMP can in fact natively play AIFF tracks. So my question is how would one apply the same magic that you used on M4A files to persuade WMP also that AIFF files shall be loaded into the "Music" folder?
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 11 June, 2012, 05:15:27 AM
The question isn't related to M4A files either, because there the library classification depends on the format of the audio stream within the file. While for AIFF, WMP is probably just set to classify that file extension as Other Media.

To change this setting, you could try adding the .aiff extension on the Extensions tab of WMP Tag Plus settings and restarting WMP (it doesn't matter which tag format you select - it will be ignored anyway). If that doesn't help then please create a new thread at Hydrogenaudio or in the Windows 7 Media forum (http://http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w7itpromedia/threads), as this is unrelated to WMP Tag Plus.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: andrewfg on 11 June, 2012, 07:55:28 AM
If that doesn't help then please create a new thread at Hydrogenaudio or in the Windows 7 Media forum (http://http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w7itpromedia/threads), as this is unrelated to WMP Tag Plus.

Yes I know the post was OT. Sorry for that.

The question isn't related to M4A files either, because there the library classification depends on the format of the audio stream within the file. While for AIFF, WMP is probably just set to classify that file extension as Other Media.

Notwithstanding the OT nature of my question, could you please explain what you do in WMP Tag Plus to persuade WMP12 that M4A files with ALAC payloads shall be classified as Music rather than Other Media?

To change this setting, you could try adding the .aiff extension on the Extensions tab of WMP Tag Plus settings and restarting WMP (it doesn't matter which tag format you select - it will be ignored anyway).

That is a cool idea. I will give it a try.

PS I found one of your earlier posts about hacking the file extension entries for WMP12 in
Code: [Select]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Multimedia\WMPlayer\Extensions\] and/or 
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\MediaPlayer\MLS\Extensions]
but that did not work. However after googling some more, it seems that since I have WIN7 64bit, I may need to hack
Code: [Select]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\Multimedia\WMPlayer\Extensions\] and/or 
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\MediaPlayer\MLS\Extensions]
so I will keep you posted on this...
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Steve Forte Rio on 11 June, 2012, 09:50:08 AM
Hi there. I have installed WMP Tag Plus 2.1 and the MONOGRAM Musepack DirectShow Decoder v0.9.2.0 / Splitter v0.4.0.0. WMP plays mpc files but it does not show the playback progress and I can't seek mpc files. Does anyone know why? WIndows 7 x64 SP1, fully updated.

also WMP does not show Metadata fields for APE files converted with foobar2000... Maybe it doesn't support some tagging schemes like APE or ID3v1?
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 11 June, 2012, 11:17:49 AM
Hi there. I have installed WMP Tag Plus 2.1 and the MONOGRAM Musepack DirectShow Decoder v0.9.2.0 / Splitter v0.4.0.0. WMP plays mpc files but it does not show the playback progress and I can't seek mpc files. Does anyone know why? WIndows 7 x64 SP1, fully updated.

also WMP does not show Metadata fields for APE files converted with foobar2000... Maybe it doesn't support some tagging schemes like APE or ID3v1?

In WMP, please go to Tools - Options - Plug-ins - Background - WMP Tag Plus - Properties - Tools, and click Refresh song tags (press Ctrl+M if you don't see the Tools menu). Does the scan pick up these MPC/APE songs and are the issues fixed after the songs' tags have been refreshed?

Notwithstanding the OT nature of my question, could you please explain what you do in WMP Tag Plus to persuade WMP12 that M4A files with ALAC payloads shall be classified as Music rather than Other Media?

For determining the format of the audio stream within an M4A file, WMP 12 retrieves the System.Audio.Format (http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/bb773924%28v=vs.85%29.aspx) property of such files. For files containing an AAC stream, the value of this property will be the MFAudioFormat_AAC GUID defined in the Windows SDK:

{00001610-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}

But for files containing an ALAC stream, the value will be different:

{616C6163-767A-494D-B478-F29D25DC9037}

(see this thread (http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/os_windowsprotocols/thread/8a4adc97-7f74-44bf-8bae-144a273e62fe/) for more info on how this GUID is generated)

WMP Tag Plus hooks into WMP's retrieval of this property, and when it sees the ALAC GUID being returned, it replaces it by the AAC GUID, thereby 'fooling' WMP into thinking that it's handling an AAC M4A file.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Steve Forte Rio on 11 June, 2012, 02:27:47 PM
Does the scan pick up these MPC/APE songs and are the issues fixed after the songs' tags have been refreshed?


No and no. No tags can be read for APE and MPC seeking doesn't work , like it was before.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 11 June, 2012, 04:01:35 PM
Are the MPC files perhaps in the (newer) Musepack SV8 format? You can check this with Mp3tag (http://www.mp3tag.de/en/). WMP Tag Plus relies on TagLib, which currently only supports the SV7 format. See here (https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=300777) for the corresponding TagLib bug report.

How exactly did you generate the APE files with foobar2000? I don't see any built-in support for converting to APE and could only find a Monkey's Audio decoder.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Steve Forte Rio on 11 June, 2012, 06:23:04 PM
Are the MPC files perhaps in the (newer) Musepack SV8 format? You can check this with Mp3tag (http://www.mp3tag.de/en/). WMP Tag Plus relies on TagLib, which currently only supports the SV7 format. See here (https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=300777) for the corresponding TagLib bug report.

How exactly did you generate the APE files with foobar2000? I don't see any built-in support for converting to APE and could only find a Monkey's Audio decoder.


Yes, of course, SV8. It's a pity if so...

foobar2000 converter setup:

MAC.exe (Monkey's Audio Console Front End v 4.10)
%s %d -c5000
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: andrewfg on 13 June, 2012, 01:51:21 AM
WMP Tag Plus hooks into WMP's retrieval of this property, and when it sees the ALAC GUID being returned, it replaces it by the AAC GUID, thereby 'fooling' WMP into thinking that it's handling an AAC M4A file.

Ok. Thanks for the insight. The conclusion for me is that I shall put it into the "too difficult" category and not pursue this topic further.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 13 June, 2012, 09:18:11 AM
foobar2000 converter setup:

MAC.exe (Monkey's Audio Console Front End v 4.10)
%s %d -c5000

I have just tried this myself and it's normal that no tags appear for these APE files in WMP, as no tags are added when the files are generated that way. The only thing that does appear in WMP is the song length of the files.

If you check the files with Mp3tag then you shouldn't see any tags there either.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Steve Forte Rio on 13 June, 2012, 01:46:51 PM
foobar2000 converter setup:

MAC.exe (Monkey's Audio Console Front End v 4.10)
%s %d -c5000

I have just tried this myself and it's normal that no tags appear for these APE files in WMP, as no tags are added when the files are generated that way. The only thing that does appear in WMP is the song length of the files.

If you check the files with Mp3tag then you shouldn't see any tags there either.


But why? foobar2000 copies all tags from source to destination file. And it displays all tags such as artist and title for the resulting track (APEv2) unlike the WMP =\
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 13 June, 2012, 02:16:56 PM
Foobar2000 certainly didn't do that in my test, so please check with Mp3tag.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Steve Forte Rio on 13 June, 2012, 03:59:14 PM
Foobar2000 certainly didn't do that in my test, so please check with Mp3tag.


Mp3Tag also shows all the tags and APEv2.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 14 June, 2012, 09:37:16 AM
Please try re-adding the APE files to the library. Make sure that WMP Tag Plus is checked in Tools - Plug-ins, select the files in the library, right-click, Delete - Delete from library only - OK. Then go to Tools - Advanced and select Restore deleted library items.

If that doesn't help, would it be possible to upload one of these files through something like http://www.yousendit.com (http://www.yousendit.com), and PM me the download link? Thanks!
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Steve Forte Rio on 14 June, 2012, 12:48:00 PM
Please try re-adding the APE files to the library. Make sure that WMP Tag Plus is checked in Tools - Plug-ins, select the files in the library, right-click, Delete - Delete from library only - OK. Then go to Tools - Advanced and select Restore deleted library items.

If that doesn't help, would it be possible to upload one of these files through something like http://www.yousendit.com (http://www.yousendit.com), and PM me the download link? Thanks!


Don't know about library, usually I don't use WMP, I simply added this file to WMP playlist.
**
Ok, now I added it to the WMP library, nothing has changed.

Well, here's my APE file (http://audiophilesoft.ru/misc/test_signal.ape). I wrote tags artist and title to it, they are visible in foobar2000, Mp3Tag, but not in WMP.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 15 June, 2012, 12:24:25 PM
Thanks for uploading the APE file. I have just added it to WMP's library on my Windows 7 system and WMP Tag Plus picks up its tags just fine. Are you *really* sure that WMP Tag Plus was checked in Tools - Plug-ins when you added the file to your library?

Also, please make sure that ape is listed in WMP Tag Plus settings - Extensions and that it is set to Monkey's Audio (APE). On the Formats tab, the Monkey's Audio (APE) item should be checked as well.

If that still doesn't help, reinstalling WMP Tag Plus might.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Steve Forte Rio on 15 June, 2012, 01:15:20 PM
Seems like reinstalling solved the problem.

It's very strange, because everything was ok with all other formats.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: mjb2006 on 07 July, 2012, 05:11:28 AM
I'm installing WMP Tag Plus for the first time. I got the dialog that says "WMP Tag Plus has detected that your media library contains songs of the newly supported formats and that Windows Media Player hasn't read any tags for these songs yet. WMP Tag Plus can refresh the tags of these songs. This means that the songs will be re-added to the library. All their current tags including star ratings and play counts will be preserved."

This makes it sound like the audio files are going to be modified.  Are they?
If they do have to change, are the last-modified dates preserved?
Does any other function of WMP Tag Plus modify the files?
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: db1989 on 07 July, 2012, 05:23:21 AM
FWIW, I interpret that to mean that WMPT+ will re-read the tags, rather than writing anything, but I don’t want to say anything conclusive as I’m not Tim.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 07 July, 2012, 08:55:45 AM
This makes it sound like the audio files are going to be modified.  Are they?
If they do have to change, are the last-modified dates preserved?
Does any other function of WMP Tag Plus modify the files?

WMP Tag Plus will in fact modify the files when it sees that some tags have already been edited. It will keep these edits and re-apply them after the files have been re-added to the library. This will also affect the last-modification date. If you don't want this, then you will have to re-add the files to the library manually.

And yes, WMP Tag Plus also modifies files during normal use. Most tag changes that are made in the library get saved to file.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: mjb2006 on 08 July, 2012, 02:07:46 AM
This makes it sound like the audio files are going to be modified.  Are they?
If they do have to change, are the last-modified dates preserved?
Does any other function of WMP Tag Plus modify the files?

WMP Tag Plus will in fact modify the files when it sees that some tags have already been edited. It will keep these edits and re-apply them after the files have been re-added to the library. This will also affect the last-modification date. If you don't want this, then you will have to re-add the files to the library manually.

And yes, WMP Tag Plus also modifies files during normal use. Most tag changes that are made in the library get saved to file.

Thanks for the quick reply.

I expect that if I were deliberately making changes to tags, this would result in the files changing, by definition. But I also expect that just playing or reading tags from whatever's in the library wouldn't require anything but reading the files, no rewriting of them necessary. To that end, I have WMP configured to not modify files during normal use. In WMP's options: This normally allows me to play anything in the library and otherwise use WMP without having to worry that files are being changed for no reason. Also, whatever changes I make in the library (not through WMP) are reflected in WMP's view of the library, and this includes modified tags.

But if I understand what you're saying, WMP Tag Plus will be routinely rewriting tags. Why does it need to do this? Why can't it just read the files like WMP normally does? (Or am I misunderstanding something?)
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 08 July, 2012, 05:31:48 AM
I think that you misunderstood me. Excluding the 'Refresh song tags' case, WMP Tag Plus will only write to file when changes are made in the library. It will definitely not randomly rewrite tags.

By the way, WMP Tag Plus only writes to file when it is instructed to do so by WMP. This means that there shouldn't be any difference in writing behaviour compared to MP3 or WMA.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: mjb2006 on 08 July, 2012, 10:49:11 AM
OK, that helps. Sorry for the confusion.

So the best way to get the FLACs currently in my library re-scanned without being rewritten, then, is to remove the FLAC-containing folders from the library (via Explorer) and then re-add them there?
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 08 July, 2012, 12:36:05 PM
No problem

You can also re-add the FLAC files by selecting them in WMP, right-clicking, Delete - Delete from library only - OK. Then go to Tools - Advanced and select Restore deleted library items. I personally find that the best way, but re-adding library locations should work equally well.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Motley Gord on 11 July, 2012, 02:54:05 PM
Are you sure that the option to add ALAC files to the Music section is checked, on the Apple Lossless tab of WMP Tag Plus settings?

Would it be possible for you to upload one of the affected ALAC files, so I can try it myself? You can upload it to a file sharing website like Skydrive or Rapidshare and send me the download link in a private message on this forum. Thanks!

Edit: suur13 and I troubleshooted further through PM and we eventually found the cause of the problem: TaglibHandler replaces Windows 7's built-in MPEG-4 property handler with its own handler. This prevents WMP Tag Plus from recognizing ALAC files and from forcing them into the Music section. Uninstalling TaglibHandler didn't help because that didn't re-register the Windows 7 property handler. The solution was to re-register the Windows 7 property handler manually in the registry.


Hi Tim,

I have been trying to get ALAC files to behave without hiding under the Other Media section, but so far no luck. I may be having the same issue that is described from what you handled with suur13. Can you help with some guidance on how to re-register the handler in this case?

Thanks in advance, and for all of the work you have done so far.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 11 July, 2012, 03:12:55 PM
Are you also running Windows 7 and do you have TaglibHandler installed, or had it installed at one point?

If so, Windows 7's built-in MPEG-4 property handler can be re-registered by copy/pasting the following into Notepad, saving it as a M4APropHandler.reg file, and double-clicking this file to add it to the registry:

Code: [Select]
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\PropertySystem\PropertyHandlers\.m4a]
@="{f81b1b56-7613-4ee4-bc05-1fab5de5c07e}"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\PropertySystem\PropertyHandlers\.m4a]
@="{f81b1b56-7613-4ee4-bc05-1fab5de5c07e}"


You may need to reboot afterwards. Does that help?
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Motley Gord on 11 July, 2012, 03:45:32 PM
Are you also running Windows 7 and do you have TaglibHandler installed, or had it installed at one point?

If so, Windows 7's built-in MPEG-4 property handler can be re-registered by copy/pasting the following into Notepad, saving it as a M4APropHandler.reg file, and double-clicking this file to add it to the registry:

You may need to reboot afterwards. Does that help?



Wow, super-fast reply! Sorry, should have included this, but yes I am on Win7 x32. TaglibHandler may have been installed as part of the ALAC encoder included with dbPoweramp? Before changing the registry I checked the keys above. The Microsoft key had a different value in the default line, but the dbPoweramp key in the second line did match. And the Wow6432Node key did not exist at all. Thanks for supplying the registry settings. This fixed the issue once it was run (and rebooted), and the keys both now match.

Finally have WMP12 playing these ALAC files, and sorting them under the Music section!
Thanks again for all your hard work. I'll be sure to send you a token of appreciation via your site!
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: WonderCsabo on 31 July, 2012, 02:23:26 PM
Tim, i just wanna thank you for all of the new features of WMP Tag Plus, mostly the FLAC album art support! 
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Drew MacDonald on 05 August, 2012, 11:14:29 PM
Hi, I'm a brand-new user of WMP 12 and Tag Editor Plus (moving over from Media Monkey.) Sometimes I want to make a playlist of cover versions of songs by a certain artist, but I can't get WMP to display the Original Artist tag in a column of the library. (I used the Original Artist tag in Media Monkey to identify which songs were covers.)

I can see the Original Artist tag in Tag Editor Plus (under the Advanced tag), so I know it's being read. It doesn't have a little pencil on the icon, so apparently I can't edit it. When I right-click it and click "Add", I get a drop-down menu of uncertain purpose, but the Original Artist still doesn't appear.

What can I do to get the Original Artist column (or, for that matter, any of the other more "obscure" tags to show up in a Library column. My guess is the solution 1) is blindingly obvious to all but a complete noob like myself or 2)impossible and I should just give up and go back to Media Monkey.

Either way, I'd appreciate any help that may be forthcoming here.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: pizedobeje on 10 August, 2012, 05:14:14 AM
I have a question.  I want to use WMP 12 64bit with WMP Tag Plus 2.1.  I had it working with 32 bit version but I want to use it on 64 bit WMP12.  How do I make it so that the 64 bit version will be the main media player that the WMP Tag Plus will use?
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 10 August, 2012, 10:50:54 AM
You can't - WMP Tag Plus doesn't support the 64-bit version of WMP, only the 32-bit version is supported.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: zafer on 18 August, 2012, 03:29:16 AM
Hello Tim !
I was checking Taglib's page, and by chance I found this in the current 1.8 beta release info : "Support for reading audio properties from ALAC and Musepack SV8 files" So great news I guess

I have a question not regarding tag reading, but similar to one issue mentioned in this thread some weeks ago. If you don't happen to have the answer, just disregard it. So here is the question : how by changing registry settings can I force WMP to store "mod" files in Music library and not in other media. I saw a fix for mp4, tried it with mod, but it didn't work. Any clue?

Thanks for eveything
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 18 August, 2012, 11:42:45 AM
So here is the question : how by changing registry settings can I force WMP to store "mod" files in Music library and not in other media. I saw a fix for mp4, tried it with mod, but it didn't work. Any clue?

You could simply use WMP Tag Plus for this, even though MOD isn't a supported format. Head to WMP Tag Plus settings, add mod to the list of supported file extensions and set its format to, for example, FLAC (it doesn't really matter which format). Then restart WMP.

If your MOD files are still in Other media after restarting WMP, you can use Refresh song tags (WMP Tag Plus settings - Tools) to move them to Music. Once the files are in Music you can remove mod again from WMP Tag Plus's list of supported extensions.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: zafer on 18 August, 2012, 04:22:19 PM
Thanks for your answer Tim .
I tried, but it didn't work.
There are two extensions showing in Other Media : mod and mid.

Now I have no idea why mod shows in other media, since it is not a native format in WMP.
I understand that MS wants mid files (general midi) to appear in other media.

So I tried with both : I added in WMP Tag Plus the mod and mid extensions, associated with FLAC (mod) and APE (mid), Applied changes, restarted WMP, refreshed tags (at amazing speed as usual ) and they are still in other media.
So I tried the following : removed them from the library, then dragged and dropped them back, and they still appear in other media

I have no idea. I hope I didn't mess the registry entries for these formats with my previous unsuccessful attempts...
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 19 August, 2012, 01:09:47 PM
I have looked into some things on my Windows 7 system to see if I could get .mod files to appear in Music instead of Other media.

It seems that MOD is in fact a native format in WMP (and Windows). However, this isn't the MOD audio format, but a video format used for digital tapeless camcorders that has the same name and file extension and is MPEG2 encoded. See the MOD and TOD (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOD_and_TOD) article at Wikipedia.

This means that whenever WMP tries to get the tags of a .mod file in the audio format, the native MOD parser returns an "invalid format" error. This can be prevented by removing the registration of the native MOD parser with the .mod file extension (by editing the registry).

But even after removing that registration, .mod files were still added to Other media although I was sure that all the required registry settings for WMP to recognize MOD as music were correct. Further investigation revealed that WMP is hardcoded to add .mod files to Other media (just like it is for .mid). So unfortunately I don't see any immediate way to get .mod files to show up in Music.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: zafer on 19 August, 2012, 03:38:48 PM
I understand. Indeed, I remember that I spent hours working on the registry in vain. So that would explain where the problem comes from.
Anyway, this is not a big issue. I guess having my musepack files displaying proper length is much more important
Tim, sincerely, many thanks for taking the time to look into that, and for all the useful information
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: zafer on 17 September, 2012, 12:43:18 PM
Hi Tim !
I just notices that a new final version of taglib has been released, with support for what was lacking before (such as mpc v8 audio properties)... Would you release a new version of WMP Tag plus with the new taglib ?
Cheers
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 17 September, 2012, 03:24:50 PM
Yes, I'm planning to release a new version of WMP Tag Plus soon.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: zafer on 18 September, 2012, 07:52:03 AM
thanks  i'll be checking so i'll be the first to test it 
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: EpicForever on 06 October, 2012, 01:18:25 PM
I'm not sure if I was careful enough in fast reading of this topic, but I think I didn't faound here the answer to question that was aksed here several times - is it possible to display FLAC album art and metadata infos in Windows Explorer in Windows 7? Yes it is. On both x86 and x64.

http://www.mediafire.com/?2o8o1z5so3l2l6k (http://www.mediafire.com/?2o8o1z5so3l2l6k)

100% tested on x64.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: 73ChargerFan on 07 October, 2012, 11:33:45 AM
100% tested on x64.

And that file is what?  A virus... ?
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: EpicForever on 07 October, 2012, 05:13:18 PM
Unfortunately no. It's just FLAC preview handler. RAR contains just 2 execs - one installer for x86 systems and the other one for x64 systems. Sorry, no virus...
Just download it and check with your AV before you use it if you aren't sure.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Robbidoo on 15 October, 2012, 08:19:01 AM
Sorry to drag up what I'm sure has been answered before (but I couldn't see a FAQ nor anywhere else to ask on the WMP Tag Plus page).

I have been ripping a bunch of CDs to ALAC using MyMovies, and I was wondering how often WMP will scan the new files and move them out of "Other media" into Music?

If I run the "Refresh song tags" option from the WMP Tag Plus dialog, they are all edited and categorised correctly. I did read somewhere that WMP should be doing this periodically without user input? Is that the case, and if so how often is it done? (3 days and counting for me).

Thanks for a great plugin!
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 15 October, 2012, 10:58:30 AM
I don't recall WMP ever moving ALAC files back to Other media, so I don't think that WMP will re-query the type of songs once they have been added to the library. In fact, "Refresh song tags" needs to remove ALAC songs from the library first and then add them again to force a re-query by WMP.

Note that even if WMP does re-query the type of songs already in the library, the ALAC files will stay in Music as long as WMP Tag Plus is enabled.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Robbidoo on 15 October, 2012, 11:43:09 AM
Thanks Tim.

Sounds like there is some information I'm not providing.

Here is the workflow:

Client machine:
Win7 x64
WMP12
WMP Tag Plus
Music library contains one location: \\server\music (so this is monitored for new music)


Sever machine:
WHS 2011 (Windows server 2008R2 effectively)
MyMovies (this automates ripping and tagging of CDs to ALAC, MP3 etc.)
Share \\server\music is the default location for these CD rips

So CDs are being ripped to \\server\music. On the client machine these new files show up in WMP almost immediately, in the "Other media" section.

The only way to have them move to Music is to run "Refresh song tags" as discussed.

I suppose my question therefore is: Do I need to manually add these newly ripped files to the Music library? Or is there something else I can do to have them added there automatically?

Hope this makes sense and I'm not missing your point.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 16 October, 2012, 04:31:40 AM
Once WMP Tag Plus is installed and loaded, you shouldn't need to use "Refresh song tags" for any new ALAC files - they should all automatically go to Music.

Just to be sure, is \\server\music a location in the normal, local library on the client machine? (opposed to a shared library which WMP Tag Plus doesn't support)

Are you sure that WMP Tag Plus is loaded in WMP while the ALAC files get added to the library? If it is in fact loaded then this may be an issue in WMP Tag Plus. You can check by going to Tools - Plug-ins in WMP - the WMP Tag Plus item there should be checked (press Ctrl+M if you don't see the Tools menu).
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Robbidoo on 16 October, 2012, 08:01:10 AM
Just to be sure, is \\server\music a location in the normal, local library on the client machine? (opposed to a shared library which WMP Tag Plus doesn't support)


Yep it's just in the normal music library on the local machine.

Quote
Are you sure that WMP Tag Plus is loaded in WMP while the ALAC files get added to the library? If it is in fact loaded then this may be an issue in WMP Tag Plus. You can check by going to Tools - Plug-ins in WMP - the WMP Tag Plus item there should be checked (press Ctrl+M if you don't see the Tools menu).


Yep it's definitely ticked and loaded. The behaviour is the same whether WMP is running whilst files are being added to \\server\music, or if I load it up at a later time - all files stay in Other media.


Thanks again Tim.

Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 17 October, 2012, 05:37:10 AM
Then this indeed sounds like an issue in WMP Tag Plus. I'll try to reproduce it on my Windows 7 system this weekend. If I can't reproduce it myself, I'll send you a debug version of WMP Tag Plus to find out more.

What's weird about this is that "Refresh song tags" does work correctly, even though new ALAC files are handled in exactly the same way.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Robbidoo on 17 October, 2012, 05:51:09 AM
Thanks Tim. If you can't get a repro just come back to me and I'll do everything I can to help. Very comfortable with the engineering process so just let me know what I can do. I'll PM you my email address in case that's simpler.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 19 October, 2012, 05:56:42 AM
In the meantime, could you please copy one of the affected ALAC files to the local Music folder on the client machine? Does that file also get added to Other media instead of to Music in WMP's library? Thanks!
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Robbidoo on 20 October, 2012, 11:23:26 AM
Sorry for the delay.

I don't have a local music folder - my music library only contains \\server\music (no other locations).

So instead, with WMP open (I'm not sure if this is significant), I put some ALAC files in a local folder (D:\music), then added that to the library. The songs appeared immediately in the music section of WMP.

Next I added some more files to the local folder; two of 12 appeared immediately. The rest are not in "other media" either. In fact I can't find them anywhere in the library views of WMP.

Finally, with WMP closed, I copied another bunch of ALAC files to the local directory, then reopened it. I noted in the status bottom right it said "Scanning D:\music", then it completed. None of the new ALACs were in Music nor "Other media".


I am still going ahead and ripping these CDs. There are now a few hundred .m4a files in "Other media", which aren't getting moved out.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 25 October, 2012, 10:23:44 AM
I followed this up with Robbidoo by e-mail and we concluded that the issue most likely occurs because the files are ripped directly to a folder monitored by WMP. In that case it wouldn't be a bug in WMP Tag Plus but rather in WMP itself.

The workaround is to rip to an intermediary folder (not monitored by WMP) and only move the ripped files to the monitored folder after the rip has completed.

However, this still doesn't explain the issues when copying ALAC files to the local music folder and when WMP isn't running while ripping. I have asked Robbidoo to contact me again would those issues reoccur.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Robbidoo on 25 October, 2012, 06:22:25 PM
Sorry to have gone quiet Tim.

Yep ripping to an intermediary folder works around this issue.

I'm not sure exactly what the behaviour is when copying a file to a local music library folder without WMP running (can't remember). I'll do some experiments and report back.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: mercury_22 on 04 November, 2012, 08:37:25 AM
Hi!
Any chance to add support for dts/dtsma ?

P.S. foobar2000 can even display covers for dts/dtsma
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 05 November, 2012, 11:25:15 AM
No, I currently don't have any plans to add such support. But note that any developer can write their own tag support pretty quickly by using the WMP Tag Plus SDK.

Or, even better, support for DTS tagging could be added to the TagLib (http://taglib.github.com/) library. It seems that DTS internally stores tags in APEv2 format (which TagLib already supports). Once TagLib supports DTS, I could easily incorporate this into WMP Tag Plus since the plug-in already uses TagLib for other file formats.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Sielius on 18 November, 2012, 02:46:13 PM
Hi,
I want to add my wote for a star rating write back to the file (at least for FLAC)
I keep my music files on home server and access it from different computers in the house. Also I synchronize them to my laptop to have with me offline.
When i move from computer to computer my ratings does not follow me
Thanks for the great software!
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: boway on 30 November, 2012, 06:53:50 PM
Hi, In the advance tab there is a tag that says (RequestState 2) what does it mean and do I need it? Thanks!
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 01 December, 2012, 09:46:36 AM
This topic is for WMP Tag Plus, which is a different plug-in than Windows Media Player Plus. Please post in the correct topic next time: [a href='index.php?showtopic=80263']Windows Media Player Plus! - Various enhancements for WMP[/a]

As for your question, RequestState is an internal WMP tag so you probably shouldn't edit it. The official documentation (http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/dd564276%28v=vs.85%29.aspx) is pretty vague, but I believe that WMP uses the tag for syncing to a device.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Andrekreou on 03 December, 2012, 08:58:11 AM
Hi Tim,

thanks for this magnificent tool. I have a question for you. I opened my music library in wmp12 and inserted a new live album from red hot chili peppers which I downloaded from their website in flac. When it's time for a song to finish you can hear a gap before the next one starts. This is very annoying because live tracks usually heard as one full sequence with no fade in's and out's. Then I checked that wmp doesn't play the whole song. For example if a song's duration is 05:50, the windows media player stops playing at 05:46. Is there anything I can do for this issue. I checked playing the same songs on Winamp and it sound perfect just as it should.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 03 December, 2012, 01:26:08 PM
Which duration does the library show for that particular song?

Which codec did you install for FLAC playback in WMP?

If you installed a DirectShow codec (which is most likely) then you indeed won't get gapless playback in WMP. WMP only supports gapless playback if the music format is being decoded by a Media Foundation codec. MFFLAC (http://sourceforge.net/projects/mfflac/) is such a Media Foundation codec for FLAC, so I suggest that you try that.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Andrekreou on 03 December, 2012, 03:04:18 PM
Which duration does the library show for that particular song?

Which codec did you install for FLAC playback in WMP?

If you installed a DirectShow codec (which is most likely) then you indeed won't get gapless playback in WMP. WMP only supports gapless playback if the music format is being decoded by a Media Foundation codec. MFFLAC (http://sourceforge.net/projects/mfflac/) is such a Media Foundation codec for FLAC, so I suggest that you try that.


The duration wmp shows is correct. I installed xiph.org. I just used the codec you suggested me. Of course I uninstalled xiph first. Things seems better but I just found that I totally lost the tag names in windows explorer. When I try to edit them it shows me that an error message that cannot modified. I installed FLAC property handler in order to edit FLAC tags in the windows explorer window.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 03 December, 2012, 03:48:47 PM
Yes, MFFLAC registers its own property handler, but one that only provides basic properties such as duration and bitrate, and none of the editable tags. Reinstalling the FLAC Property Handler should fix this.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Andrekreou on 06 December, 2012, 06:00:35 AM
Yes, MFFLAC registers its own property handler, but one that only provides basic properties such as duration and bitrate, and none of the editable tags. Reinstalling the FLAC Property Handler should fix this.



Tim sorry for the delay. I already did that before your post and I already saw the difference. Thank you very much for your support. I never imagined that my PC would work FLAC files, just like the way I do with WMA lossless. I am excited and also frustrated with these guys in Microsoft. Is it so difficult to embed these specs in Windows??? Any way thank you.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 15 December, 2012, 10:18:00 AM
Announcement: TagLib, the tagging library used by WMP Tag Plus, was recently updated to version 1.8 (http://oxygene.sk/2012/09/taglib-1-8-released/). The most important change with regard to WMP Tag Plus is that Musepack SV8 support has been added.

Because of this, I have made an updated version of the WMP Tag Plus TagLibTagSupport.dll file with TagLib 1.8 included. This file is available for download here (http://bmproductions.fixnum.org/links/?linkid=7).

After downloading, make sure that WMP is closed, simply replace the old TagLibTagSupport.dll file in the WMP Tag Plus Program Files folder with the new one, and restart WMP. If there already are Musepack SV8 files in your library, you will need to remove them from the library first and then re-add them (Tools - Advanced - Restore deleted library items).

You should only use the newer TagLibTagSupport.dll file if you need Musepack SV8 support. Otherwise, it's probably better to wait until the next official WMP Tag Plus release.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: zafer on 19 December, 2012, 07:02:45 AM
I have been testing the new dll, for two days now. All my mpc sv8 are now showing length, and seeking is possible now. I had to rebuild the Library, because "Refresh Song Tags "did not work (it said it found no tunes with tags to refresh). Now everything is fine. Tim, thank you very, very much...
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 26 December, 2012, 03:04:10 PM
Exactly, "Refresh song tags" doesn't detect Musepack SV8 files (I should have checked that before posting). I have corrected my previous post, thanks for letting me know.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: zafer on 28 December, 2012, 10:39:53 AM
Well, it wasn't much of an issue since I'm used to rebuild the whole Library from time to time. Many thanks and i hope you're enjoying this end of the year
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: borisgoodenough on 21 January, 2013, 09:19:51 AM
I'm using Tag Plus and ran into a tag-related problem, so I'm hoping Tim or one of the other experts here can point me in the right direction.

I'm slowly switching over to FLAC files, and would like to integrate them into an existing WMP MP3 library, in order to stream to my audio system via a Grace tuner. (The tuner detects the computer as a UPNP device, and reads the WMP database to organize by tags.) Used the xiph codec and Tag Plus to bring the FLAC files into WMP, and everything behaved as expected. The WMP library displays the newly-imported FLAC files and tags, and WMP 12 plays them on the computer.

But the Grace tuner doesn't recognize these FLAC files as music, or see their tags, as it does with the MP3 files in the WMP library. It does recognize and play FLAC files from a directory structure in an external storage drive that's not integrated into the WMP library -- so it looks likely that the problem is how the FLAC files and tags are being integrated into WMP.

In poking around, this is the identical behavior displayed by Windows Explorer (Win7/32). Directories set up for music files display the file details from the tags of the MP3 files -- but none from the FLAC files imported to WMP via Tag Plus.

So here's the question: if Explorer looks at different sets of tags than those used by WMP, where are those tags located and can I get at them via Tag Plus to see if those are the same tags that the Grace tuner also needs to identify / play the FLAC files that are now imported into the WMP libraries?

Thanks in advance.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 21 January, 2013, 03:41:00 PM
Explorer doesn't look at a different set of FLAC tags than WMP, it simply doesn't look at any tags at all, because it doesn't recognize FLAC. WMP Tag Plus only adds tagging support to WMP and not to Explorer. To get FLAC tagging support in Explorer, you will need to install an additional FLAC property handler such as this one (http://dfiles.eu/files/fka4jqsfm) or the one included in dBpoweramp (http://www.dbpoweramp.com/dmc.htm).

Also, are you sure that the Grace tuner supports FLAC via UPNP? I'm not familiar with the UPNP protocol but I would guess that this is completely different from playing from a directory structure. I'm not sure if the protocol even supports custom audio formats like FLAC.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: borisgoodenough on 22 January, 2013, 09:02:02 AM
Thanks, Tim. The good news: installed the FLAC handler and Explorer now recognizes the FLAC file tags. So does the Grace tuner, which sorts / organizes based on those tags.

The bad news: once I select on the basis of tags, the tuner still doesn't recognize / display the actual FLAC files as playable music files.

The Grace tuner does support FLAC playback via UPNP -- at least in some circumstances. It recognizes an external HDD or thumb drive attached to the router's USB port as a UPNP server, displaying and playing a directory structure of FLAC files. But there's no tag or playlist support in this setup, and the number of directories it supports (10) on a non-WMP drive seems geared toward something like a thumb drive, but useless for a music library. Which is what started me down the road of trying to integrate the FLAC files into WMP in the first place.

(I realized this is headed off-topic, so we can drop it, or take it elsewhere if you have some thoughts on what I might try. Grace support has been worse than useless -- a boilerplate litany of reboots / resets.)
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 22 January, 2013, 04:03:45 PM
I don't have any experience with audio streaming so I'm afraid that I can't help you further. You may want to ask for advice in the FLAC forum (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showforum=67) on this website.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Inf1neon on 21 February, 2013, 03:13:03 PM
Today I downloaded and installed WMP Tag Plus 2.1 to get FLAC tags working in Media Player 12. All the metadata appear to be working fine except for the album art? I've tried replacing the art with *.png files but that didn't help. I notice that the album art displays fine in VLC (2.0.5). I've also since installed Windows 7 File Explorer support for FLAC using 'Windows 7 FLAC Property Handler' and that works perfectly showing the album art.

Has anyone else had this problem or can anyone help me troubleshoot this? Thanks! 
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 22 February, 2013, 06:31:19 AM
Does the album art appear if you re-add the FLAC files to the library? Make sure that WMP Tag Plus is checked in Tools - Plug-ins, select the files, right-click, Delete - Delete from library only - OK. Then go to Tools - Advanced and select Restore deleted library items.

If that doesn't help, can you upload one of these files and PM me the download link so I can take a look myself? You can use Dropbox or a file sharing website like Skydrive/Rapidshare. Thanks!
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: b23h on 10 March, 2013, 04:10:03 AM
Today I downloaded and installed WMP Tag Plus 2.1 to get FLAC tags working in Media Player 12. All the metadata appear to be working fine except for the album art? I've tried replacing the art with *.png files but that didn't help. I notice that the album art displays fine in VLC (2.0.5). I've also since installed Windows 7 File Explorer support for FLAC using 'Windows 7 FLAC Property Handler' and that works perfectly showing the album art.

Has anyone else had this problem or can anyone help me troubleshoot this? Thanks! 



Hi.  Someone covered this issue quite some time ago.  I would suggest experimenting with one albums artwork.  What you want to do is set up file explorer to view all files, including system files.  Then you will see multiple image files in each folder.  Some of the image files will have very long file names, you want to delete those that have very long file name strings.  Again, test this with only one album and see if that works for you.

I found that if I allowed those files to stay, every time I rebuilt my library or viewed the library from another computer, the album art would not show up.  Once those image files with the long strings are deleted, the album art shows up without any issues.

test the issue....
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: b23h on 10 March, 2013, 04:21:37 AM
pg 8

"01 When I Kissed the Teacher.flac
02 Dancing Queen.flac
03 My Love, My Life.flac
04 Dum Dum Diddle.flac
05 Knowing Me, Knowing You.flac
06 Money, Money, Money.flac
07 That's Me.flac
08 Why Did It Have to Be Me.flac
09 Tiger.flac
10 Arrival.flac
11 Fernando [-].flac
12 Happy Hawaii [-].flac
13 La Reina del Baile [-].flac
14 Conociéndome, Conociéndote [-].flac
15 Fernando [Spanish Version][-].flac
(*) AlbumArt_{A3B92F5A-1A65-4A74-9498-B5815DB1E161}_Large.jpg
(*) AlbumArt_{A3B92F5A-1A65-4A74-9498-B5815DB1E161}_Small.jpg
(*) AlbumArtSmall.jpg
Arrival (flac).cue
CD.jpg
desktop.ini
Folder.jpg
Inlay.jpg
Sleeve Back.jpg
Sleeve Front.jpg


If I delete the files preceded by (*), WMP will now show up the folder.jpg image automatically."
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this person is implying that you also need to delete the AlbumArtSmall.jpg.  I am not sure that is the case, but the other two should be deleted.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 10 March, 2013, 07:12:16 AM
b23h: with older versions of WMP Tag Plus, it was indeed necessary to delete the AlbumArt_*.jpg files for the album art in Folder.jpg to show up. However, now that WMP Tag Plus supports album art this shouldn't be necessary anymore.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: hans-jürgen on 23 June, 2013, 02:44:18 AM
Would it be possible to create an external Spotify app from WMP Tag Plus to enable their desktop software reading local FLAC files? At the moment Spotify recognizes ALAC already if Quicktime is installed on the computer, but neither FLAC nor WMA Lossless local files. So it needs the ability to understand their tags and use the necessary decoders as well. Here is a thread on the Spotify Community forum (http://community.spotify.com/t5/Help-Desktop-Linux-Mac-and/Why-Offer-to-Import-Our-Windows-Media-Libraries-amp-Playlists/td-p/452166) describing the problem.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 23 June, 2013, 02:50:24 PM
Do you mean a plug-in for the existing Spotify application, similar to what WMP Tag Plus is to WMP? Such a plug-in would have to be written from scratch, since the host application is completely different. WMP Tag Plus is too tightly coupled to WMP to make a Spotify plug-in out of it.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: hans-jürgen on 27 June, 2013, 03:05:13 AM
Yes, that is what I meant, thanks for your reply. The Spotify desktop software enables the development and inclusion of external apps through its open API and also reads the local file library on your computer besides streaming playlists from their online catalogue in Ogg Vorbis format (160 kbps for free users or 320 kbps for subscribers). But I guess it would be too much work to develop this from WMP Tag Plus.

Another question concerning Last.fm scrobbling (http://www.last.fm/help/faq?category=99#201) of FLAC files: installing WMP Tag Plus with Windows Media Player should be enough to enable this, right? Of course the user would also need a FLAC decoder filter, but usually he already has installed one if he listens to FLAC files on his computer, and he has to install the Last.fm scrobbler (http://www.last.fm/download) with WMP plugin, too.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 27 June, 2013, 06:09:58 AM
Correct on the scrobbling question (the length of the song needs to be present in WMP's library for the scrobbling to work).
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: John Lockwood on 12 July, 2013, 09:54:46 PM
Hi Tim, I have a query about using your plug-in to get WMP to refresh song tags (from your Tools tab).

I just tried to use it with the intention to get new Album Artwork into WMP12 from some Apple Lossless music files. I had added new embedded album artwork to a couple of albums. Unfortunately when I used this command WMP Tag Plus 2.1 said there was nothing new to add.

I ended up having to delete the watched folder entirely from WMP and then re-add it thereby forcing WMP to rescan the whole lot.

My music is ripped from CDs using iTunes, and initially iTunes downloads matching album artwork from the iTunes store (600x600 resolution) but stores the artwork separately as .itc2 files. It is relatively easy to later convert this to embedded artwork in the tracks but then I would need to get WMP to recognise that. Hence it would be a big help if your plugin noticed that the embedded artwork had changed and updated WMP.

Note: WMP12 has built-in support for MPEG4 'atoms' aka. meta-tags in .m4a files as used for AAC and Apple Lossless music. It does also read embedded album artwork from these files. This means I no longer need to mess about with folder.jpg files. 
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 13 July, 2013, 02:46:50 PM
The Refresh song tags command is only for refreshing songs of the non-native formats whose tags haven't been read yet, or to move these songs (+ Apple Lossless) to Music if they're still in Other media.

As you say yourself, WMP 12 already has built-in support for MPEG-4 embedded artwork. I feel that refreshing the artwork of natively supported formats is actually out of the scope of Refresh song tags or even WMP Tag Plus.

I would have assumed that WMP does automatically pick up the embedded artwork changes, just like it does when any other tag gets changed from outside of WMP. Are you sure that this isn't the case? WMP will of course update the artwork in the library when you use its Paste Album Art command (which will also embed). When testing the embedded artwork functionality of WMP Plus's tag editor, I seem to recall that WMP also picked up artwork changes there, but I'm not 100% sure of that anymore.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: suur13 on 23 July, 2013, 03:11:53 PM
Long time, but same problem... ALAC files in Other Media section... actually same files as last time 

But now I have Windows 8 and have tried everything. Refresh in Tools section, checked those registry keys and have trialed different filters and splitters. Cleared the database and so on. Nothing. Is it Win 8 issue ? Files play fine, so filters work, but m4a lossless files are sitting in wrong place. Any ideas ?

Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 24 July, 2013, 06:38:20 AM
ALAC support is working fine on Windows 8, at least on my system. Do you have the latest version of WMP Tag Plus, version 2.1?

Last time, your issue was caused by installing TaglibHandler. Did you install it again on Windows 8?

If you re-apply the .reg file that I sent you by PM the last time, and reboot, does that help?
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: doomkrad on 16 August, 2013, 02:28:57 AM
Hi Tim!

I just installed WMP Tag Plus, but I'm still unable to read the file formats it adds to WMP.

In Windows Media Player:
- Tools/Plug-ins reveals a ticked box for WMP Tag Plus, however WMP still wasn't able to read a FLAC file I tested it with:
WMP cannot play the file...
- Moreover, using File/Open... doesn't return (show) .flac files in the list, however these become visible if changing the file (filtering) setting from Media files (all types) to Any file (*.*).

In File Explorer (Windows Explorer): 
for .flac files there is no Play [with WMP] command in the Context list. I manually added WMP to the Open With... list, but to no avail.

In case this is relevant, I also have foobar2000 v1.2.9 installed.

Thank you so much for your help. : )

Best regards,
Valentin

Windows Media Player 12.0.7601.17514
Windows 7 Ultimate SP1
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 16 August, 2013, 11:27:42 AM
From the official WMP Tag Plus homepage:

Quote
Please note that WMP Tag Plus only adds library and tagging support. Additional packages might be required to enable Windows Media Player to play the new formats:
  •     FLAC and Ogg Vorbis: Xiph.org DirectShow Filters (http://www.xiph.org/dshow/)
  •     ...
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: doomkrad on 16 August, 2013, 11:48:00 AM
Many thanks for the quick reply!

Best regards,
Valentin
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Jalle64 on 10 October, 2013, 05:03:06 AM
Hi! Today I installed WMP Tag Plus 2.1 to get FLAC tags working in Media Player 12 in Windows 8 Pro 64bit with mediacenter. And I also have xiph opencodecs (0.85.17777) latest version for playing FLAC-music, but I cant get the files showing in my library. Is there any special thing I ought to do to get it working in Windows 8?

I can here the sound so thats not the issue.

Best regards Jalle64
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 10 October, 2013, 05:31:57 PM
In WMP, please go to Tools - Options - Plug-ins (press Ctrl+M if you don't see the Tools menu). Select the Background category, then select WMP Tag Plus and click Properties. In WMP Tag Plus settings, go to Tools, click Refresh song tags and follow the instructions. Does that help?

If not, you may need to trigger an update of WMP's library for the FLAC files to be picked up. This can be done by making a simple file change in your music folder, for example, renaming a file (you can then just rename it back to the original).
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Jalle64 on 11 October, 2013, 06:20:06 PM
If not, you may need to trigger an update of WMP's library for the FLAC files to be picked up. This can be done by making a simple file change in your music folder, for example, renaming a file (you can then just rename it back to the original).
I've done the first thing to no avail. Do you mean rename a FLAC:file? (dumb question maybe)


Best regards Jalle64
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 12 October, 2013, 10:57:02 AM
I mean renaming any file, it doesn't matter which one (as long as it's in your music folder).
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Stone Free on 15 October, 2013, 09:29:56 AM
When I was hunting around for the registry script to move FLAC files from the others section, the first one I tried failed, but the second one with separate 64-bit registry entries (meaning a different location not a special kind of registry keys) worked.

What bitness is your Windows 8 (if they still support 32 bit)?  However seeing as you got your registry file from Tim then that probably isn't the problem.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 15 October, 2013, 02:59:47 PM
There's no need to use any registry file if you install WMP Tag Plus - the installer already adds the registry entries required for WMP to recognize the new music formats. Also no need to worry about bitness then, because both the installer and WMP/WMP Tag Plus will be 32-bit.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Stone Free on 16 October, 2013, 05:12:33 AM
There's no need to use any registry file if you install WMP Tag Plus - the installer already adds the registry entries required for WMP to recognize the new music formats. Also no need to worry about bitness then, because both the installer and WMP/WMP Tag Plus will be 32-bit.
Ah, the one I installed must have been an older version without this, as my FLAC files definitely started out in other
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: rknox on 16 October, 2013, 06:53:42 PM
reposting in Tag Plus thread:

I am attempting to play ALAC files in wmp 12 in Windows 8.1 preview. I installed 32 bit and 64 bit Shark007 Advanced Codecs, then installed Tag Plus plugin. Here's my experience:

- at the start, I run the tag plus updater/refresher - it identifies the .m4a lossless files (versus the lossy versions)
- lossy files show up as normal under Music in wmp
- lossless .m4a files show up in Other
- clicking on the other files, I am able to play the .m4a lossless files in Other
- of course, what I want is .m4a lossless files showing up under Music.
- just when I think that is the only problem - "other" .m4a's stop working, and upon checking the plugin, Tag Plus has disappeared from Background within plugins tab on wmp.
- I have uninstalled/reinstalled Tag Plus and process repeats itself as above.

On a side note, before any of this, my first test was I tried streaming .m4a music from a server. .m4a's showed up under Music in this Server library, but then stopped working as above. Thinking streaming was possibly an unsupported area, I instead created a normal
Music library made up of .m4a (lossy and lossless) files. Which leads to the above issues.

Any suggestions as to why this is not working?

Thanks,
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 17 October, 2013, 03:28:04 PM
So even after completely going through 'Refresh song tags', the lossless .m4a files are still in Other media? Is the checkbox on the Apple Lossless tab of WMP Tag Plus settings checked?

Did you perhaps install TaglibHandler or another property handler that overrides Windows 8's native property handler for MPEG-4?

If WMP Tag Plus isn't listed as a background plug-in anymore, then you're most likely running the 64-bit version of WMP (which WMP Tag Plus doesn't support). To check if this is the case, open Task Manager, go to Details, show the Platform column and check the platform of the wmplayer.exe process.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: rknox on 17 October, 2013, 04:48:07 PM
So even after completely going through 'Refresh song tags', the lossless .m4a files are still in Other media? Is the checkbox on the Apple Lossless tab of WMP Tag Plus settings checked?

Did you perhaps install TaglibHandler or another property handler that overrides Windows 8's native property handler for MPEG-4?

If WMP Tag Plus isn't listed as a background plug-in anymore, then you're most likely running the 64-bit version of WMP (which WMP Tag Plus doesn't support). To check if this is the case, open Task Manager, go to Details, show the Platform column and check the platform of the wmplayer.exe process.


Tim, thanks for the reply.

Yes, files are still in Other Media, and I do have the box checked under the Apple Lossless tab.    I wouldn't know TaglibHandler, but I have not installed any other media/codec software besides Shark007 and Tag Plus.  Unless it comes bundled with Shark007 (I checked the programs Shark007 installs - didn't see anything like TaglibHandler)?

On to the bit version.  Based on the "open folder location" / target location in task manager, which shows I am running wmplayer from Program Files - versus the "Program Files (x86)" folder - it would seem I am running the 64 bit version.  I see no direct indication of 32 or 64 in task manager so assuming this is what you meant.  So does this mean there is no solution?  There are some notes on the Shark007 which indicate that when you run Media Center, it invokes the 64 bit version of wmp. I have Media Center installed so this might be what is happening.  My ultimate goal is to allow Media Center to play ALAC files.
Given the discussion about 64 bit version of wmp/Media Center, on Shark007 site, it certainly implies that I should be able to see in library/play ALAC on a 64 bit system. 

One final comment.  I noticed that Windows 8.1, at least the Preview version, breaks a lot of things - some related to Media Center.  Have you had any other feedback/experience on the 8.1 version?

Any other suggestions or thoughts?  It is so frustrating that there isn't better alignment between the Apple and Microsoft products.

rknox
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: rknox on 18 October, 2013, 12:16:47 AM
So even after completely going through 'Refresh song tags', the lossless .m4a files are still in Other media? Is the checkbox on the Apple Lossless tab of WMP Tag Plus settings checked?

Did you perhaps install TaglibHandler or another property handler that overrides Windows 8's native property handler for MPEG-4?

If WMP Tag Plus isn't listed as a background plug-in anymore, then you're most likely running the 64-bit version of WMP (which WMP Tag Plus doesn't support). To check if this is the case, open Task Manager, go to Details, show the Platform column and check the platform of the wmplayer.exe process.


Tim, thanks for the reply.

Yes, files are still in Other Media, and I do have the box checked under the Apple Lossless tab.    I wouldn't know TaglibHandler, but I have not installed any other media/codec software besides Shark007 and Tag Plus.  Unless it comes bundled with Shark007 (I checked the programs Shark007 installs - didn't see anything like TaglibHandler)?

On to the bit version.  Based on the "open folder location" / target location in task manager, which shows I am running wmplayer from Program Files - versus the "Program Files (x86)" folder - it would seem I am running the 64 bit version.  I see no direct indication of 32 or 64 in task manager so assuming this is what you meant.  So does this mean there is no solution?  There are some notes on the Shark007 which indicate that when you run Media Center, it invokes the 64 bit version of wmp. I have Media Center installed so this might be what is happening.  My ultimate goal is to allow Media Center to play ALAC files.
Given the discussion about 64 bit version of wmp/Media Center, on Shark007 site, it certainly implies that I should be able to see in library/play ALAC on a 64 bit system. 

One final comment.  I noticed that Windows 8.1, at least the Preview version, breaks a lot of things - some related to Media Center.  Have you had any other feedback/experience on the 8.1 version?

Any other suggestions or thoughts?  It is so frustrating that there isn't better alignment between the Apple and Microsoft products.

rknox


Quick Update:  I discovered the Shark007 64 bit codec setup has an option to use/force the 32 bit version of wmp.    With that set, and after reinstalling everything, I could verify that in fact I was now running the 32 bit wmp.    However, after rebuilding my library and letting tag plus do its thing, I still have the same results:  that is, tag plus identifies the lossless files, suggests that it includes them in my library, but when all is done, the lossless files remain in other library.  Further, as soon as I close wmp and restart, it seems to default to the 64 bit version of the player.  Maybe an issue with shark007 as well.  I thought the ALAC problem was solved - which is why I thought I'd give it a try ...
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 18 October, 2013, 06:38:37 AM
I'd still like to check if something has overridden the native MPEG-4 property handler. For that, please open the Start Screen, type regedit and press Enter. In Registry Editor, navigate to the following key:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\PropertySystem\PropertyHandlers\.m4a

Then double-click the (Default) entry and copy/paste its contents into your reply here.

Also, if you uninstall Shark007, reboot, and then try 'Refresh song tags' again, do the ALAC files still stay in Other media?

Regarding the 64-bit WMP, how exactly are you launching WMP? You may need to edit the shortcut that you're using so that it points to Program Files (x86) (which is 32-bit) instead of just Program Files (64-bit).

One final comment.  I noticed that Windows 8.1, at least the Preview version, breaks a lot of things - some related to Media Center.  Have you had any other feedback/experience on the 8.1 version?

I neither have any personal experience with Windows 8.1 or have received feedback from others that I can recall.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: rknox on 18 October, 2013, 11:47:12 AM
I'd still like to check if something has overridden the native MPEG-4 property handler. For that, please open the Start Screen, type regedit and press Enter. In Registry Editor, navigate to the following key:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\PropertySystem\PropertyHandlers\.m4a

Then double-click the (Default) entry and copy/paste its contents into your reply here.

Also, if you uninstall Shark007, reboot, and then try 'Refresh song tags' again, do the ALAC files still stay in Other media?

Regarding the 64-bit WMP, how exactly are you launching WMP? You may need to edit the shortcut that you're using so that it points to Program Files (x86) (which is 32-bit) instead of just Program Files (64-bit).

One final comment.  I noticed that Windows 8.1, at least the Preview version, breaks a lot of things - some related to Media Center.  Have you had any other feedback/experience on the 8.1 version?

I neither have any personal experience with Windows 8.1 or have received feedback from others that I can recall.


Here is the contents per your request:  {f81b1b56-7613-4ee4-bc05-1fab5de5c07e}

I am launching wmp from the taskbar on the desktop in 8.1.  When it reverted to the 64 bit version, I tried launching from the Program Files (x86) directory, but I didn't see my libraries or the plugin.  I am running the preview version of 8.1.  The rtm version hit the streets yesterday so I will likely update and try again.  That said, in reviewing the forums on Shark007, I think there is some question as to whether ALAC is possible in Windows 8.  See this Post:
http://shark007.net/forum/Thread-m4a-alac-...?highlight=alac (http://shark007.net/forum/Thread-m4a-alac-support-for-x64?highlight=alac)

rknox
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: rknox on 18 October, 2013, 12:20:00 PM

Also, if you uninstall Shark007, reboot, and then try 'Refresh song tags' again, do the ALAC files still stay in Other media?




I also tried uninstalling Shark007 per above.  I rebooted and ran the 32 bit version successfully from Program Files (x86).  Performed the refresh, but ALAC files remain in Other.

One other note:  Another program gets installed:  "Windows Media Player 64-bit Plug-In Fix"  in Programs and Features.  I am guessing that is a Shark007 plug-in?  Not sure what it is for but shows up - wasn't sure if it came from Shark007 or Tag Plus.

rknox
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 18 October, 2013, 02:39:14 PM
Here is the contents per your request:  {f81b1b56-7613-4ee4-bc05-1fab5de5c07e}

Thanks for reporting back. This means that the native MPEG-4 property handler is still active and no third-party property handler is used. Hence the cause for the ALAC issue must lie somewhere else.

Quote
That said, in reviewing the forums on Shark007, I think there is some question as to whether ALAC is possible in Windows 8.  See this Post:
http://shark007.net/forum/Thread-m4a-alac-...?highlight=alac (http://shark007.net/forum/Thread-m4a-alac-support-for-x64?highlight=alac)

There's no problem with ALAC files on my Windows 8 system: with WMP Tag Plus they get added to the Music section and playback works fine too using the DC-Bass filter (as suggested in WMP Tag Plus settings). This is still Windows 8.0 though. I'll install 8.1 this weekend and will check there as well.

One other note:  Another program gets installed:  "Windows Media Player 64-bit Plug-In Fix"  in Programs and Features.  I am guessing that is a Shark007 plug-in?  Not sure what it is for but shows up - wasn't sure if it came from Shark007 or Tag Plus.

This gets installed by WMP Tag Plus. There's a bug in WMP in that there's no separation of plug-in 'enabled states' between the 32-bit and 64-bit version. This meant that each time the 64-bit WMP was launched, you had to manually re-enable WMP Tag Plus afterwards in the 32-bit version. This additional package fixes that issue.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 19 October, 2013, 02:48:59 PM
That said, in reviewing the forums on Shark007, I think there is some question as to whether ALAC is possible in Windows 8.  See this Post:
http://shark007.net/forum/Thread-m4a-alac-...?highlight=alac (http://shark007.net/forum/Thread-m4a-alac-support-for-x64?highlight=alac)

I have just tried the WMP Tag Plus ALAC support in the release preview of Windows 8.1 and no issues there either.

Would it be possible to upload one of the affected ALAC files and PM me the download link, so I can take a look myself? You can use Dropbox or a file sharing website like Skydrive/Rapidshare. Thanks!
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Jalle64 on 22 October, 2013, 01:13:03 PM
I´m still unable to get the FLAC files working in Music pane/library. I have now installed W8.1 and theres no change in my case. I´ve uninstalled and reinstalled both xiph and your Tag plus. I´m at my whits end here. What can I do now. Yes I´ve tried to rename a FLAC file, doesn´t work.

Best regards Jalle64
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 22 October, 2013, 04:02:57 PM
Just to be sure: 'Refresh song tags' still doesn't detect the FLAC files, right?

Are the FLAC files located in your personal Music folder? And is this folder listed as a library location in Organize - Manage libraries - Music?

I also suggest that you try resetting the media library. First note that resetting the library will make you lose all current play counts, and possibly ratings too. Then, follow these steps:

- Reboot the PC.
- Press Win+R, type services.msc in the Run dialog, and press Enter. In Services, find the Windows Media Player Network Sharing Service. If its status is Started, double-click the service and click Stop.
- Press Win+R, type %LOCALAPPDATA%\Microsoft in the Run dialog, and press Enter. This folder will open up in Windows Explorer.
- In this folder, delete the Media Player folder. If you can't see the folder, then it's probably hidden. Set Explorer to show hidden files and folders, and to show protected system files.
- Start WMP, your library will have been reset and will be rebuilt. Check if the FLAC files get added now.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Jalle64 on 23 October, 2013, 10:31:56 AM
Just to be sure: 'Refresh song tags' still doesn't detect the FLAC files, right?

Are the FLAC files located in your personal Music folder? And is this folder listed as a library location in Organize - Manage libraries - Music?

I also suggest that you try resetting the media library. First note that resetting the library will make you lose all current play counts, and possibly ratings too. Then, follow these steps:

- Reboot the PC.
- Press Win+R, type services.msc in the Run dialog, and press Enter. In Services, find the Windows Media Player Network Sharing Service. If its status is Started, double-click the service and click Stop.
- Press Win+R, type %LOCALAPPDATA%\Microsoft in the Run dialog, and press Enter. This folder will open up in Windows Explorer.
- In this folder, delete the Media Player folder. If you can't see the folder, then it's probably hidden. Set Explorer to show hidden files and folders, and to show protected system files.
- Start WMP, your library will have been reset and will be rebuilt. Check if the FLAC files get added now.
Yes it doesn´t detect FLAC-files when I try this. Well and my Service Windows Media Player Network Sharing Service was off. So should I try to turn it on instead? After doing the steps its still the same no detecting/adding.

I have my musik in many folders on a separate HDD.

When I first installed Windows 8 it all worked like a charm, but then i had some problems and did a sytem restore from the windows media I have, and since then this problem riddles me. I had hoped for W8.1 to sort this thing out but it didn´t.

Thanks alot for trying to help.

Best Regards Jalle64
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 23 October, 2013, 02:53:29 PM
Yes it doesn´t detect FLAC-files when I try this. Well and my Service Windows Media Player Network Sharing Service was off. So should I try to turn it on instead?

Yes, please try turning the service back on.

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I have my musik in many folders on a separate HDD.

And are all these folders listed as a library location in Organize - Manage libraries - Music? Does WMP still pick up natively supported file types (MP3, WMA, WAV) in these folders?

If you copy a FLAC file to your personal Music folder, does WMP add it to the library then?

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When I first installed Windows 8 it all worked like a charm, but then i had some problems and did a sytem restore from the windows media I have, and since then this problem riddles me.

What exactly were these problems leading you to do a system restore?
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Jalle64 on 23 October, 2013, 05:23:37 PM
Yes it doesn´t detect FLAC-files when I try this. Well and my Service Windows Media Player Network Sharing Service was off. So should I try to turn it on instead?

Yes, please try turning the service back on.

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I have my musik in many folders on a separate HDD.

And are all these folders listed as a library location in Organize - Manage libraries - Music? Does WMP still pick up natively supported file types (MP3, WMA, WAV) in these folders?

If you copy a FLAC file to your personal Music folder, does WMP add it to the library then?

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When I first installed Windows 8 it all worked like a charm, but then i had some problems and did a sytem restore from the windows media I have, and since then this problem riddles me.

What exactly were these problems leading you to do a system restore?
Well I´ll try turning it on then.

I will see if a copy of a FLAC file does something

With all other types its no problem (MP3, MP2, WMA, WAV).

Thanks again for your support.


The problem was uppdating the apps in Apps Store. After restore it worked again.

Edit: It worked when I copied it to the Rippin Folder.

But how do I do it for many folders at the same time?

Best Regards Jalle64
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 24 October, 2013, 03:15:38 PM
But how do I do it for many folders at the same time?

In WMP's library, please click Organize and select Manage libraries - Music. There, add all your music folders to the list of library locations. Then all the music files in these folders, including the FLAC files, should be automatically added to the library.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Jalle64 on 28 October, 2013, 06:48:22 PM
But how do I do it for many folders at the same time?

In WMP's library, please click Organize and select Manage libraries - Music. There, add all your music folders to the list of library locations. Then all the music files in these folders, including the FLAC files, should be automatically added to the library.
Thanks that solved my "problem"

Great work from you!

With highest regards Jalle64
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 30 October, 2013, 04:02:12 PM
I also tried uninstalling Shark007 per above.  I rebooted and ran the 32 bit version successfully from Program Files (x86).  Performed the refresh, but ALAC files remain in Other.

To follow up on the ALAC issue reported by rknox: we further troubleshooted this by PM and eventually found the cause. It turned out that the current version of WMP Tag Plus still ships with an old version of a DLL used for hooking into WMP's functionality (wmp.dll in WMP's Program Files directory). This old version isn't completely compatible with Windows 8 yet, causing the WMP Tag Plus ALAC support to fail there.

I'm planning to release a bugfix of WMP Tag Plus soon. But if you're experiencing this bug, you can install my Windows Media Player Plus! plug-in (http://bmproductions.fixnum.org/wmpplus/) as a workaround. That plug-in comes with a newer version of the hook DLL that's fully compatible with Windows 8.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: BeFi on 10 November, 2013, 06:18:03 AM
Hi Tim,

I am struggling with FLAC support in WMP12 since upgrading to Win 8.1.

I had been using WMPTag 2.1 in Win 8 for over a year now with zero glitches. I used it under Win 7 before already but that's history.  When upgrading to Win 8.1 my WMP12 immediately 'forgets' all FLAC files. Adding the FLAC directories to the Library from scratch makes no difference. Re-tagging does not add these files to the library either.

Checking the WMPTag settings it seems that FLAC support is active.

One sign of problem has been that after the Win 8.1 install upon starting WMP 12 WMPTag came up - which - given my settings - indicates that WMPTag is not active. It is however flagged as active when reviewing the WMP Add-ins.

Following the advice in an earlier post in this thread I ensured that all my MS apps are updated and recent. No change.

Does this have to do with the WMP.dll also?

Thank in advance
Bernhard

Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 10 November, 2013, 11:06:47 AM
If the WMP Tag Plus settings come up on WMP startup then that doesn't mean that the plug-in is inactive. It simply means that the plug-in 'thinks' that it was just installed. Possibly a consequence of the 8.1 upgrade.

It's unlikely that your issue is also caused by the older wmp.dll version, but I still suggest that you install Windows Media Player Plus! to make sure.

A more likely cause is a problem with the media library database. In that case, resetting the library should help. See my October 22 post for full instructions.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: BeFi on 11 November, 2013, 11:59:38 AM
Tim,

I tried to recreate the WMP database but with no change over the state before - all MP3 files (in my MP3 music directory) are re-added and tagged, the flac files (in my FLAC directories) are not seen any more.

I recently read that Microsoft has changed the interface of the Media Center apps to 3rd party plugins with Win 8.1. Maybe another hint to the issue and its solution.

Best regards
Bernhard
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 11 November, 2013, 03:09:21 PM
Did installing Windows Media Player Plus help?

Are you really sure that the FLAC files don't get added to the library, possibly under Unknown Artist or in a different section like Other media?

In WMP Tag Plus settings, please click Refresh song tags on the Tools tab and follow the instructions. Does it detect the FLAC files, and if so, does refreshing their tags help?

If you manually copy a FLAC file to your MP3 music directory, does the FLAC file get added to the library then? And what if you copy a FLAC file to the default My Music (if not the same folder)?
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: BeFi on 13 November, 2013, 07:24:46 AM
Hi Tim,

I did install WMP Plus and that screwed up things completely. With both WMPTag and WMPplus installed WMP12 deactivated WMPTag and crashed when trying to manually activate WMPTag.

I then deinstalled WMPTag and only ran with WMPplus but that did not recognize any FLAC file either. I even deleted my FLAC directories once again from the library and re-added them. No change.

Copying and renaming the WMPPlus DLL to the WMPTag drectory was my next attempt but unsuccessful. WMP12 crashed immediately on startup. Maybe a stupid excersize in the first place.

I re-checked but my FLAC files are not added anywhere in WMP12's structure.

I also tried your third hint of copying FLAC files over to my MP3 directories. result: MP3 files visible, FLAC files not visible. Expectable but I wanted to have all your advice applied.

Looking forward to get over this.

Just as a side remark: I am putting emphasis on keeping my system setup clean. I am running regular image backups of my system partition and keep data and media files on separate disks. When I have experimented with software like in this case I apply my last good system backup and am back to clean state. In this case: back on Win 8.1 with WMP12 and WMPTag not recognizing FLAC files.


Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 13 November, 2013, 03:40:25 PM
Per my previous post, have you checked Other media and tried Refresh song tags? What were the results?

I suggest that you also try uninstalling WMP Tag Plus and doing a clean install of the plug-in. Then reset the library once more by following my October 22 instructions. Does that help?

I'm interested in the WMP crash that you got when both WMP Tag Plus and Windows Media Player Plus! were installed. Would it be possible for you to install WMP Plus again to let the crash re-occur, and then send me the full details of the crash?

To get the crash details, open the Start screen, type eventvwr.msc, and press Enter. In Event Viewer, go to Windows Logs - Application, and look for Error in that list, there should be an Error event for that same crash. Double-click this event and copy/paste its description into your post. Thanks!
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tobubuta on 13 November, 2013, 05:38:29 PM
I too have the problem of not being able to add any new albums to my WMP Library after upgrading to Windows 8.1 yesterday.  I can play FLACS fine, and my existing library seems intact. I just cannot add new albums since yesterday. I can play the new files, and add them to playlists, but not to the library itself. Please help?

I have a current library of nearly 3000 albums, 99% of which are FLAC files, so I am really loath to any suggestion of undoing all that, or even uninstalling WMP Tag Plus, which I have apparently been using all this time to make library possible. (I wasn't aware of the mechanics involved in building a WMP Library of FLACs.)
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 14 November, 2013, 02:41:09 PM
Do you have the latest version of WMP Tag Plus, 2.1, installed?

As with Bernhard, please make sure that the FLAC files don't get added to the library after all, possibly under Unknown Artist or in a different section like Other media. Also, does Refresh song tags detect the FLAC files and if so, does refreshing their tags help?

If you don't want to uninstall WMP Tag Plus then simply reinstalling it on top of the current installation may also help. To check if reinstalling helped without resetting the full library, either move a new FLAC file into your music folder, or move an existing FLAC file out of your music folder and then move it back in.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tobubuta on 14 November, 2013, 05:37:13 PM
Tim, I appreciate you response. Actually, I have 2.6 installed. I had 2.1, saw there was a 2.6, but no go on either version. It seems to work OK with a file that was already in the library, but new files don't get added. And yes, I search everywhere, and by song title file name, file path, etc.I dosee them in Other Media, but I can't add them from there to the main library. If I right-click, there's no 'Find Album Info' choice as on files already in the library.

I have to say, I do not see a "Refresh Tag' option in the WMP Tag Plus interface.


Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 15 November, 2013, 06:14:15 AM
There's no 2.6 version of WMP Tag Plus, so it sounds like you have had Windows Media Player Plus! installed all along, which is a completely different plug-in. I suggest that you download and install WMP Tag Plus 2.1 (http://bmproductions.fixnum.org/wmptagplus/).

When WMP Tag Plus is installed, launch WMP, go to Tools - Options - Plug-ins (press Ctrl+M if you don't see the Tools menu). Select the Background category, then select WMP Tag Plus and click Properties. In WMP Tag Plus settings, go to Tools, click Refresh song tags and follow the instructions. That should move the FLAC files from the Other media section to the Music section.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: capo56 on 15 November, 2013, 06:38:35 AM
I am also one of persons who preffer to store rating directly to the file instead of storing to library only. I use this with MP3, but WMP Tag doesn't support it with FLAC.

It is because I use dynamic playlists based on rating on different devices (computers, phones, tablets...) and I want my music to be synchronized.

I have read some relevant discussion in this thread on 6th page already. Is it possible to implement this feature? Is there any other way to save rating directly to FLAC?

Thank you
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 15 November, 2013, 03:57:15 PM
I did install WMP Plus and that screwed up things completely. With both WMPTag and WMPplus installed WMP12 deactivated WMPTag and crashed when trying to manually activate WMPTag.

I then deinstalled WMPTag and only ran with WMPplus but that did not recognize any FLAC file either. I even deleted my FLAC directories once again from the library and re-added them. No change.

Bernhard: I have just checked the Windows 8.1 upgrade myself again. (I had already upgraded my Windows 8 system to 8.1 but luckily still had an image from before the upgrade.) And indeed, for some reason, the upgrade clears all custom file types registered with WMP. Including those registered by WMP Tag Plus, which explains why your FLAC files disappeared from the library.

Simply reinstalling WMP Tag Plus should cause the file types to be registered again, it doesn't even have to be a clean install. Then after a library reset the FLAC files should definitely be added again.

Would still like to hear more on the crash you were talking about.

I have read some relevant discussion in this thread on 6th page already. Is it possible to implement this feature? Is there any other way to save rating directly to FLAC?

capo56: I intend to add 'rating in file' support in one of the next releases. It definitely won't be in the upcoming 2.2 release though.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tobubuta on 15 November, 2013, 07:48:59 PM
I believe I did have WMP Tag Plus installed originally, but definitely got confused with WMP Player Plus and WMP Tag Plus. So, I uninstalled WMP Player Plus (I don't know if that was essential, but I did it on principle), resintalled WMP Tag Plus 2.1. I didn't have to do anything after that. WMP Tag Plus automatically went through my library when I started WMP again, and found the 2 albums that were outstanding, asked me if I wanted to refresh tags, to which I said yes, and Bob's your uncle! It all works brilliantly again. A few album covers missing as a vestige from the Windows 8.1 install, but I think I can handle that. Thanks for your help, Tim, very much. I just made a donation through Paypal I'm so grateful.  I was losing sleep over having to redo my library.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 16 November, 2013, 11:13:38 AM
Good to hear that all is well again, and thank you very much for the donation
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: bilbo on 16 November, 2013, 11:22:57 AM
I intend to add 'rating in file' support in one of the next releases. It definitely won't be in the upcoming 2.2 release though.


Could you also include Playcount and lastplayed in the file tag? Play count should be easy since it is part of the POPM tag that you would be using for rating.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 16 November, 2013, 11:55:47 AM
I don't have any plans to include Playcount and Lastplayed too. Main reason is that WMP itself doesn't even write these two tags to MP3/WMA. The POPM tag is MP3-specific and doesn't exist in any of the formats supported by WMP Tag Plus.

If you want to keep these tags synced then it really should be done through some other way than the files' tags. Perhaps the Metadata Backup (http://www.dalepreston.com/Blog/2007/03/windows-media-player-metadata-backup.html) tool could be used?
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: BeFi on 18 November, 2013, 02:33:18 PM
Hi Tim,

Ida reinstalled WMP Tag already before with no effect.

Deleting the WMP library did the trick for me. WMP added all FLAC files again.
Many, many Thanks for your advice.

Best regards
Bernhard
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 18 November, 2013, 03:58:43 PM
Good to hear, thanks for reporting back. It's actually the combination of reinstalling WMP Tag Plus and resetting the library that does the trick of restoring the pre-8.1 functionality.

Could you still provide more details on the crash that occurred when both WMP Tag Plus and Windows Media Player Plus! were installed? Thanks!
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 29 November, 2013, 05:09:28 PM
Announcement: WMP Tag Plus 2.2 (http://bmproductions.fixnum.org/wmptagplus/) is now available for download. This update fixes several bugs, such as a possible crash when accessing the plug-in's settings, and adds full Musepack SV8 support. Updating is highly recommended.

See the Version History page (http://bmproductions.fixnum.org/wmptagplus/history.htm) for a detailed list of what's new and what has been fixed.

Important note for users upgrading to Windows 8.1 (not related to the 2.2 update): it is highly recommended to reinstall WMP Tag Plus after the 8.1 upgrade (uninstalling first isn't necessary). This is because all non-native file types registered with WMP, including those registered by WMP Tag Plus, get unregistered during the upgrade. This will cause songs of such file types not to get picked up by WMP anymore. Reinstalling WMP Tag Plus fixes this because that re-registers the non-native file types.

Another possible side-effect of the 8.1 upgrade is that all non-native file type songs are removed from the library. If this is the case, after reinstalling WMP Tag Plus, move a single song (this can be any song) out of your music folder, and move it back in. After that, WMP should add all non-native file type songs to its library again.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: ganon on 29 December, 2013, 11:22:48 PM
Hello Tim, I did as you suggested above, but I still have about 1400 flac tracks bundled in Unknown Artist...What am I doing wrong. Thx.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 31 December, 2013, 11:05:19 AM
Because you included more details in the email you sent me, I replied to that. I'm still waiting for you to reply back though.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: ganon on 31 December, 2013, 01:13:13 PM
[quote name='Tim De Baets' date='Dec 31 2013, 11:05' post='854140']
Because you included more details in the email you sent me, I replied to that. I'm still waiting for you to reply back though.
Thanks Tim, I just saw your email. I will reply here so others can share their thoughts. First, I apologize for my harsh statements on your plugin. It does work. My problem is with the tags on the 1400 tracks. Improper tagging is the root of all my evils with WMP12. I'm fixing this as I type and I'm down to 800 tracks. There is one thing though with the plugin: WMP12 uninstalls the plugin automatically after running it after the first install. Once I run it, it disappears from the player, and I have to run the install every time I start the player...I don't know if this is a problem with the player or my PC. The funny thing is, that as I'm updating the tags on my flac tracks, the player recognizes them immediately, but the plugin does not show up. It's as if the plugin is running in the background...
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 31 December, 2013, 02:57:41 PM
If WMP Tag Plus doesn't show up anymore then you're probably running the 64-bit version of WMP, which WMP Tag Plus doesn't support. Running the 32-bit version should help; it's at C:\Program Files (x86)\Windows Media Player\wmplayer.exe.

There's no such thing as WMP Tag Plus running in the background: it's either there or it isn't. If you have been making the tag changes in WMP's library then it's likely that your changes were kept only in the library and not saved to the music files themselves. Meaning you could easily lose all your changes again, so I advise that you double-check the tags with an external tag editor.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: ganon on 31 December, 2013, 03:54:02 PM
If WMP Tag Plus doesn't show up anymore then you're probably running the 64-bit version of WMP, which WMP Tag Plus doesn't support. Running the 32-bit version should help; it's at C:\Program Files (x86)\Windows Media Player\wmplayer.exe.

There's no such thing as WMP Tag Plus running in the background: it's either there or it isn't. If you have been making the tag changes in WMP's library then it's likely that your changes were kept only in the library and not saved to the music files themselves. Meaning you could easily lose all your changes again, so I advise that you double-check the tags with an external tag editor.


Thx, Tim, yes I'm running the x64 bit version. I'm updating the tags with an external tag editor, and they are being saved in the files themselves, and WMP12  still updates the files in the library...
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: ganon on 31 December, 2013, 06:12:12 PM
If WMP Tag Plus doesn't show up anymore then you're probably running the 64-bit version of WMP, which WMP Tag Plus doesn't support. Running the 32-bit version should help; it's at C:\Program Files (x86)\Windows Media Player\wmplayer.exe.

There's no such thing as WMP Tag Plus running in the background: it's either there or it isn't. If you have been making the tag changes in WMP's library then it's likely that your changes were kept only in the library and not saved to the music files themselves. Meaning you could easily lose all your changes again, so I advise that you double-check the tags with an external tag editor.


Thx, Tim, yes I'm running the x64 bit version. I'm updating the tags with an external tag editor, and they are being saved in the files themselves, and WMP12  still updates the files in the library...

Edit: No, I'm wrong, the flac files do not update when the plugin disappears from the player. It disappears after I close the player. Then I need to re-install the plugin to keep working...Is this an issue because the plugin is not yet designed for WMP12 x64...? If not, can I install the 32 bit version of WMP12 and keep the x64 bit version side by side, or do I need to remove the x64 bit version from Windows Features...? I'd like to know this before I install the 32 bit version. Thanks again for your help.

Edit, edit: Never mind anything I mentioned above. (I must be tired). I just ran the 32bit version of WMP12, and the plugin works without any problem at all! Thanks again and goodnight.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 01 January, 2014, 11:17:28 AM
Just to clarify: there's no need to install the 32-bit version or remove the 64-bit version, as the 32-bit version will always be present. The 32-bit WMP is in fact still the default, even on Windows x64 (as far as I know).
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: al feersum on 06 January, 2014, 09:15:08 AM
If WMP Tag Plus doesn't show up anymore then you're probably running the 64-bit version of WMP, which WMP Tag Plus doesn't support. Running the 32-bit version should help; it's at C:\Program Files (x86)\Windows Media Player\wmplayer.exe.


Hmm... is it possible you could compile as 64-bit?  VS should allow you to do it - and TagLib# doesn't seem to care which architecture it runs under.

Thanks.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 06 January, 2014, 04:11:22 PM
No, the plug-in itself is written in Delphi 4, which can't compile to 64-bit.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: sleeplessinsale on 12 January, 2014, 04:06:47 PM
Hi - I have installed Windows Media Player Plus v2.6  and the Tag Plus  v2.2 from the website. After doing this, I still cannot edit tags for FLAC files but it says this format is supported for tag editing.

I would really like to be able to edit the 'Subgenre' field. I also tried the more standard fields like 'Contributing artist' but it still wouldn't actually take my change. It left the blank field blank.

When I right-click an mp3, the menu shows an option for 'Tag Editor Plus' but it doesn't show this when I right click a FLAC file in my Windows Media Player playlist. I am running WMP 12 on Windows 8 64 bit.

Hope you can help me.

Thanks
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: dougschuess on 12 January, 2014, 04:36:50 PM
Are all of your WMP plugins needed, or does PLUS all the functionality of the others?
Win7 Ultimate (WMP12).
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 13 January, 2014, 02:59:22 PM
I would really like to be able to edit the 'Subgenre' field. I also tried the more standard fields like 'Contributing artist' but it still wouldn't actually take my change. It left the blank field blank.

Did WMP read the existing FLAC tags, i.e. do you see these tags in the library?

How exactly are you trying to edit those fields? What do you mean when you say that it left the blank field blank?

Quote
When I right-click an mp3, the menu shows an option for 'Tag Editor Plus' but it doesn't show this when I right click a FLAC file in my Windows Media Player playlist. I am running WMP 12 on Windows 8 64 bit.

This issue is unrelated to WMP Tag Plus, so please repost in the [a href='index.php?showtopic=80263']Windows Media Player Plus! topic[/a].

Are all of your WMP plugins needed, or does PLUS all the functionality of the others?

WMP Tag Plus and Windows Media Player Plus! are two completely separate plug-ins. If you want library/tagging support for non-native formats and interface/playback enhancements, you'll need to install both plug-ins.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: sleeplessinsale on 13 January, 2014, 11:33:54 PM
I would really like to be able to edit the 'Subgenre' field. I also tried the more standard fields like 'Contributing artist' but it still wouldn't actually take my change. It left the blank field blank.

Did WMP read the existing FLAC tags, i.e. do you see these tags in the library?

How exactly are you trying to edit those fields? What do you mean when you say that it left the blank field blank?

Quote
When I right-click an mp3, the menu shows an option for 'Tag Editor Plus' but it doesn't show this when I right click a FLAC file in my Windows Media Player playlist. I am running WMP 12 on Windows 8 64 bit.

This issue is unrelated to WMP Tag Plus, so please repost in the [a href='index.php?showtopic=80263']Windows Media Player Plus! topic[/a].

Are all of your WMP plugins needed, or does PLUS all the functionality of the others?

WMP Tag Plus and Windows Media Player Plus! are two completely separate plug-ins. If you want library/tagging support for non-native formats and interface/playback enhancements, you'll need to install both plug-ins.



Actually, it made my WMP crash when it played an mp3 and then the next track was a FLAC. It seemed it didn't like the differing types. I didn't realize what was causing the crash at the time but when I restarted my laptop and then WMP 12, it gave me a message that one or more plug-ins had caused instability and so it had automatically disabled them to enable it to run ok. And true enough, it doesn't crash any more when going from an mp3 to FLAC, or vice versa.

So, I can't really answer your questions because the plug-ins are now disabled because of these issues. I would like them to not cause the crash and to be able to enter data into the subgenre field for FLACs too.

Before I forget! I want to hugely thank you for developing all these things and making them available to us. I know for a fact they've worked before when I ran WMP 11 on a former laptop, so I truly do know the quality of your work

I guess at this point, in delivering my needs to be able to enter data enter  the subgenre field of FLAC files, maybe you can direct me away from confusion - do I need to just install Windows Media Player Plus for this, or do I need WMP Tag Plus in addition to that? Because I had both installed before - maybe that was my problem?
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 14 January, 2014, 03:06:50 PM
Which codec do you have installed to allow FLAC playback in WMP?

Please report back the technical details of the crash. Open the Start screen, type eventvwr.msc, and press Enter. In Event Viewer, go to Windows Logs - Application, and look for Error in that list, there should be such an event for each crash. Double-click the latest event and copy/paste its description into your reply. Thanks!

You only need WMP Tag Plus if you just want FLAC library and tagging support. If you also want the tag editor, you'll need Windows Media Player Plus! as well.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: sleeplessinsale on 25 January, 2014, 04:47:11 AM
Log Name:      Application
Source:        Application Hang
Date:          1/12/2014 1:22:39 PM
Event ID:      1002
Task Category: (101)
Level:        Error
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Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: sleeplessinsale on 25 January, 2014, 04:49:38 AM
I am using K-Lite_Codec_Pack_1020_Basic for my codec as far as I know.

I can play FLAC, APE and mp3 in my windows media player now with this codec installed.

I'm finding WMP 12 very unfriendly in giving information about codecs it is actively using and providing a feature for me to manually disable plug-ins and/or codecs btw !

Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 25 January, 2014, 03:15:19 PM
Thanks for posting the technical details. The only useful info I can see is that something is hanging WMP. Can you still reproduce this hang?

If so, while WMP is hanging again, please press Ctrl+Alt+Del, start Task Manager and go to the Details tab. Is the wmplayer.exe process (or perhaps another process) using a lot of CPU? Next, right-click the wmplayer.exe process and select Create Dump File. Can you then upload the dump file to Dropbox or a file sharing website like SkyDrive/RapidShare, and send me the download link via PM? Thanks!

Edit: you can enable WMP plug-ins again in the Tools - Plug-ins menu (press Ctrl+M if you don't see the Tools menu).
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Mauser69 on 28 January, 2014, 04:25:41 PM
Hey Tim, I first want to thank you so much for these great plugins!  I'm obviously late to the party (based on the date of this thread), but I just now stumbled onto your great added support for other file formats in WMP.

But I have encountered a problem... one very similar to the last issue reported above by EvtK.

Let's start with my info: I am using WMP 12.0.7601.18150 in W7 Pro 64.  I have a large audio library of almost totally WMA lossless files, and now I am trying to add .flac support.  I have installed  Xiph.org DirectShow Filters Open Codecs version 0.85.17777, WMPTagPlus-2.2 and WMPPlus-2.6.

I keep two copies of my library - one is on a dedicated Media drive installed in my primary editing computer, and the second copy is on a network drive as the primary WMP library location for multiple other computers so that I can play my music library from any of them without having to keep extra copies or needing to worry about having the primary editing computer turned on.  It also works as a full backup.  This has worked perfectly for playing all .mp3 and .wma files.  (My problem has nothing to do with the network location - I just wanted to explain why I have two copies of my library.)

When I update media information for mp3 and wma files on the primary computer and then copy the files to the network library, all the updated media information shows up properly on the other computers too (meaning the tag information obviously transferred WITH the files from one library to the other).  SEE UPDATE ON BOTTOM

My problem is simply this - after installing your plugins and updating media info for some flac files (including using the "Update album info" feature), then copying the folder to another location, NONE of the album info shows up in the WMP library on the other computers.  Those computers do play the flac files, but right clicking on a file and looking at the content tab shows no tag information.  Similarly, just using file explorer to look at the files on the original computer  (the one where the media library DOES show that tag info) shows no tag information.  To clarify - after updating the media info in WMP, then using "Update album info", the files still do not show any tag info in file explorer.

I do not have any WMP plugins installed other than your two.  Any ideas why the updated tag info does not seem to be actually in the files?

UPDATE:
Oops!  Just completed a new test with some downloaded mp3 files - updated album info then copied folder, and the updated info did NOT move with those files either.  In this example, I was even able to see the problem with file explorer without copying the files - updated album info showed composer names in WMP, but the composer field was still blank in file explorer properties | details.  So I am left scratching my head - the problem does not seem to be related to your excellent plugins, but it exists none the less.

Still would be great if you had any ideas...
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 28 January, 2014, 05:11:31 PM
If I understand correctly, the issue with FLAC already occurs during tag reading, while the issue with MP3 only occurs during tag writing. So I'm still not very sure if they're one and the same problem.

The MP3 issue could be explained by the fact that WMP doesn't write tag changes to file immediately. WMP usually writes changes to file at a later time in the background. You can force it to write any pending tag changes immediately by using the Tools - Apply media information changes command (press Ctrl+M if you don't see the Tools menu).

It's not very surprising that Explorer didn't show any tags for the FLAC files. Unless you have a third-party FLAC property handler installed, Explorer doesn't support FLAC tags. It's better to take a look at the files with the Mp3tag (http://www.mp3tag.de/en/) tool.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Mauser69 on 28 January, 2014, 06:12:55 PM
Yeah, I'm feeling like a bit of a fool right now - I'm new to this forum, but certainly not other internet forums.  But still I somehow even missed seeing that this thread had 24 pages - and I looked!  I was surprised that it seemed to stop way back in October of 2009.  So I've got a lot more back reading to do before I waste y'all's time with questions.

But I did use the Tools - Apply media information changes function, again just now, then re-copied the folder to another computer, and the media information updates were NOT carried with the files.  I have repeated this test about four times now, just to verify I didn't miss something.  And as I said in my first post, this problem seems to show up without even needing to copy the files.

To duplicate it yourself, simply edit the Composer information for an mp3 file in the WMP library, do the apply media information changes, then go to the properties for that file in File explorer - when you look at the Details tab, the composer field will not have any change you made to it in WMP.  I'm pretty sure this was not a problem in older versions of WMP, but maybe I just never noticed it before since most of the media information information never changes.  And after all, I would never have seen it now if I was not trying to compare two different computers against the same files copied to a different location.  It would never have jumped out at me except for the fact that the flac files start out with NO media information at all, and I did some detailed testing with mp3 files for a comparison. 

By the way, this problem does NOT happen with WMA files, only mp3 and FLAC (possibly others, of course, but I only have these three types in my library to test).  I hate mp3 format with a passion, so I have very few of those, but I was planning on doing a lot more FLAC, and having to manually update the media information for every new file on every single computer that I use will be a huge problem!
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 29 January, 2014, 03:21:04 PM
I tried to duplicate your problem with MP3 on my Windows 7 system, but for me, the composer field in Details was correctly filled in after using Apply media information changes.

Regarding the issue with FLAC: just to be clear, you do also have WMP Tag Plus installed on the other computers, right?

In WMP on one of these computers, please go to Tools - Options - Plug-ins (press Ctrl+M if you don't see the Tools menu). Select the Background category, then select WMP Tag Plus and click Properties. In WMP Tag Plus settings, go to Tools, click Refresh song tags and follow the instructions. Does it detect the FLAC songs without any tag information and does refreshing these songs help?
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Mauser69 on 04 February, 2014, 06:16:35 PM
I am sorry for the delay in replying to your question and suggestions, especially after you were so prompt in responding to my initial posts, but I have been getting lots of inconsistent results from my testing, and that inconsistency is driving me nuts!  On top of that, I have spent a lot of time trying to find appropriate downloads for albums I already own but are not yet in my database to use for testing.

First of all let me state that Yes, I do have WMP Tag Plus on all computers, and I have also done the Refresh Song tags on all computers (none of them found any songs that needed updated).  I have been using Mediainfo to manually check for updated tag fields on the files, as this utility seems to work excellently for all of the file types.

My primary recording/editing computer seems to be causing most of the problem with inconsistent results.  This computer has all media files on local drives.  In one test today I added two new albums, both recorded as 320 mp3.  Neither of the albums showed any composer information as downloaded.  I manually updated the composer info for one track in each album using Tag Editor Plus, then applied the media information changes.  While both tracks continue to show the updated information within WMP, only ONE of them actually shows the changed composer information on the file itself. 

Next, I did Find Album Info for both of these same albums (each of the downloaded files contained some erroneous tag info).  After this process completed, both albums display all correct info in WMP, but only one of them actually updated the tag info on the files.  Album one (The Essential Willie Nelson) had all of the tag info correctly updated on each file, and album two (The Mothers of Invention/Freak Out!) had none of the tag information updated on the files.

That test somewhat supports your not being able to duplicate my reported problem that tag fields were NOT updating for me on an mp3 file.  Turns out that some albums update the files, and some do not.

That same computer also has this problem with FLAC files.  When I added the same Essential Willie Nelson album in FLAC format and then updated the media info, none of the tags on the files were updated (that is opposite from what happened with the mp3 files for the same album).  But when I added Sgt. Pepper in FLAC format and updated the media info, all tags on the files were correctly updated!

On a different computer that uses all media files from a network drive, WMP has correctly updated all tag information on all files for every album I have tested, no matter what the format.  But I have not tested very many albums there simply because the media library takes an awfully long time to fully update due to the shear size and slow performance of the network drive; therefore, saying it always works to update the tag fields may be premature.

So far, I have not been able to identify any specific indicator on the albums that do not update properly on the first computer to help point to what the problem might be.  VERY frustrating.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 05 February, 2014, 02:44:09 PM
Sorry to hear that. One possible explanation is that some of the MP3 files contain ID3v2.4 tags, while WMP/Explorer support ID3v1/ID3v2.3 only. (You can check the ID3 version of a file with Mp3tag.) This could explain the inconsistent results, but of course not why it's also happening with FLAC (no different tag versions there).

Another possible factor are the network drives. You might want to check if these drives are indexed by Windows, as I believe that is required for WMP/Explorer to correctly pick up tags. This could be easily checked by moving some music files to a local folder.

Let me know if you find anything.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Mauser69 on 05 February, 2014, 03:33:33 PM
Thanx for the ideas, but just a quick clarification:

Computer "A" HAS the problem, but does not use network media files.
Computer "B" does NOT have the problem, and does use the network files.  This computer correctly updates the tags on the physical files even for the albums that are not updated from computer 1.  Today I added three FLAC albums to this computer that are not being properly updated on Computer "A", but Computer "B" updated all of them perfectly.

That seems to eliminate either of those possibilities.

Computer 1 is the bigger, badder, faster computer, and it has been used extensively over the years for lots of video and audio recording and editing.  As such, there are numerous other media related programs and utilities on there that do not exist on computer 2.  It seems logical that something installed on there might be conflicting with the file update process from WMP, but the idea of trying to wade through it all to find the culprit is giving me a big headache!  I do not see any errors or indications of a problem, except that the tags just never get updated for some albums.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 05 February, 2014, 03:54:43 PM
You might want to give Clean Boot (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929135) a try, to check if there's a conflict with a program running in the background.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Mauser69 on 07 February, 2014, 12:09:39 PM
MYSTERY SOLVED!  Many of the files I downloaded for testing were flagged as Read Only.  WMP doesn't flag this as a problem since it simply keeps all the tag data in the library and only updates the physical files when and if it can.  MP3Tag clued me in by throwing up a warning about Read Only when I tried to use it to fix some tags before adding the files to the library.

Seems like a pretty simple issue, but I had not seen it before because almost all of my media files have come from my own rips and direct recordings.  Furthermore, just the simple act of copying these new "read only" files to my NAS seems to remove the read only flag, which is why Computer "B" was not having the problem.  And that blinded me to the possibility that it was an issue with the file itself.

Thanx for all your ideas and help, and ESPECIALLY for your great plugins!

Now that I know what your tools can do and see how you support them, I would gladly buy them, especially since your freeware model works like a lifetime license with free upgrades. 

I always start a new project by looking for free programs to get my feet wet - hate to buy something before I know what I want to do and if it will meet my needs.  But I am getting so impressed with your tools that I want to donate!  Unfortunately, your web site wants me to use Paypig, and I absolutely will NOT deal with them (they stole money form me once simply because I would not take a credit out of my account fast enough).  Any other option?
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 07 February, 2014, 03:08:17 PM
Good to hear

As for donating, you could also transfer money to my bank account: BE18 0014 1952 3965. (Not sure if this will work from outside the EU though, PM me if it doesn't.) Thanks!
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Mauser69 on 09 February, 2014, 03:17:06 PM
OK Tim, we still have an odd problem that initially seems like it may be related specifically to your plugin.  In short, it seems as though FLAC files that were not properly tagged BEFORE being copied to the network drive do not display the correct information from a third computer (and refreshing song tags does not help).  This may also just be a peculiarity of trying to access the same media files from WMP on multiple computers.  Let me try to explain . . .

As you recall from the posts above, I have two copies of my media files - the "source" copy on Computer "A" and a copy of the media files on a network drive that is accessed by multiple other computers.  During all of the initial testing where I was having trouble getting the tags to update on the initial downloaded files BEFORE I copied them to the network drive, I was only using Computer "B" to test how WMP saw the tags on the network files.  During this testing, I had copied 7 FLAC encoded albums to the network drive (Gordon Lightfoot "Sundown", Pink Floyd "A momentary Lapse of Reason" & "The Wall" 1&2, Willie Nelson "Essential Willie Nelson" 1&2 & "Red Headed Stranger"). 

Of these 7 albums, Computer "A" was only able to properly update the tags on "Read Headed Stranger" before it was moved.  This seems to be an important fact.  This album was downloaded with no tags (I just checked the source), but since the Read Only flag was not set, all of the tags were updated by WMP before I copied the files to the network drive.

The other six albums either had no tag information stored on the files before they were copied, or, in the case of "Essential Willie Nelson", an incorrect album name.

After seeing that these FLAC albums were not being shown with tag data on Computer "B", I started WMP on Computer "C" to compare the results.  Of course I had to install WMP Tag Plus on this computer also, and these 7 albums were already in the network library before I did that.  The tag information shown on Computer "C" was the same as Computer "B": Red Headed Stranger was shown with all the correct tag information, Essential willie Nelson was shown with the wrong album name, and the other four were shown as Unknown for both album and artist.  At this point I shut down WMP on Computer "C" and returned to "A" and "B" for the remainder of my testing.

I was able to use Computer "B" to have WMP successfully update all of the tag information on these FLAC albums already copied to the network drive.  I have used both Mediainfo and MP3Tag to verify that these files now have the correct information physically stored in the files themselves.  After I finally discovered that the the Read Only flag was causing my tag update problem from Computer "A", I used it to successfully update the tags on a bunch more FLAC albums and then copy those to the network drive.  In every case now, Computer "B" shows the correct tag information for all the files copied to the network without need for further updates.

Sooooo, this morning I started WMP on Computer "C" again and let it refresh all the new album info from the network.  And here is the problem - the original 6 FLAC albums that originally had either no tag info or wrong album name WERE NOT UPDATED, despite the fact that all the tag information is now correctly stored on the network files.  I'm guessing that this is because the WMP Media Library for those albums was already created and will not be updated unless it is done from within WMP on that computer.  All of the new FLAC albums that I added yesterday with correct tag information on them before being copied are shown correctly on both Computers "B" and "C".  I have used WMP Tag Plus properties to refresh song tags on Computer "C", but it said nothing needed to be updated.  I have done this twice and restarted WMP numerous times, but still no changes.

The next logical step would seem to be to delete the media library in WMP and let it rebuild, but I have not done that yet in case there is something else you want me to check or test first.

I have completed a test of changing some tag information on a file that was already in the WMP library, using an external tag editor to make the changes, then restarting WMP, and that changed information does NOT show as changed in WMP.  This seems to confirm my suspicion that once a song or album is already loaded into the WMP Media Library, you cannot change the tag information outside of WMP without having to rebuild the library (or at least delete and restore deleted library items).  I'm sorry if that is already general knowledge, but since I struggled so much figuring this out, I thought I would share my experience.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 10 February, 2014, 03:24:58 PM
Under normal circumstances, WMP should detect tag changes made outside of the library and should automatically update its library to reflect the external changes. It's possible though that this only works on NTFS drives and that network drives aren't supported. I even vaguely remember that WMP uses an NTFS-specific feature for detecting changes (USN change journals), which probably isn't available for network drives.

Again, this could be easily checked by testing on some FLAC files in a local folder. It may also be a matter of simply letting Windows index the network drives.

If that doesn't help, then you could indeed reset the library, see here (http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_vista-pictures/windows-media-player-11-lists-and-plays-every-song/f5fa32f6-315a-4b69-b127-dcd71600baf1) for instructions.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Mauser69 on 11 February, 2014, 11:52:59 AM
The test I performed was on the computer using FLAC media files on a local NTFS drive.  I changed the album name on several individual cuts using an external editor, then restarted WMP to ensure it would look at the library location for new info (I have found that restarting WMP always causes it to load new data from the network location much quicker than just waiting for it to happen, so I assume it does the same with the local files).  I did not wait any extended time after that to see if the change would eventually be detected.

The result was that WMP did not detect the album name change on the local files until I deleted the album from the library and then did a Restore Deleted Library Items . . ..  After the restore, the songs where I had changed the album name tag did indeed show up in WMP as the new album name, so the tag information was correct on the file.

I haven't tested other codec types, and I am sure there is much about this that I do not understand, but it seems logical to advise anyone who is having difficulty in getting updated tag information to show in WMP to delete the item from the library (not the disk, just WMP Library), and then use the Advanced Tools to Restore Deleted Library Items.  That would seem to be especially good advice if they have used any external tag editor, even Windows Explorer properties.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 12 February, 2014, 02:42:55 PM
What was the location of the FLAC files on the local drive? If it happens again, can you check if you see the same behaviour for MP3 files? In that case, please also reset the library as the issue could have been caused by library corruption. Thanks!
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Mauser69 on 22 February, 2014, 11:08:11 AM
Not sure what you mean by "the location" of the files on the local drive - all of my music files are on a dedicated media drive, and the Top level folder is set as the My Music location for the Library.

Anyway, when I re-tested external tag changes for both FLAC and MP3 files, the results were the same - WMP would not detect any changes unless I deleted and re-added those particular albums to the media library.  But you had an excellent suggestion - rebuilding the entire media library via Tools | Advanced | Restore media library... solved the problem.  After that whole process completed (takes many hours due to the sheer size of my library), now I can make tag changes from an external editor on any file type and watch WMP instantly pick up those changes as soon as I save them.

Thanx for your help!
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 23 February, 2014, 11:21:37 AM
With location, I meant the folder that contains the music files. Just wanted to make sure that this folder is added as a library location, which I see now is indeed the case.

Good to hear that rebuilding the media library fixed the problem, thanks for reporting back
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: rknox on 27 February, 2014, 04:18:19 PM
Hi Tim,

I have completed the migration of my wma lossless collection to ALAC.  Everything is working great in my Windows 8.1, Windows 7 and WMC environments.  Thanks again for your assistance. 

I do have a question about Shared Libraries.  Although it not essential, it is also possible to stream music from my Server to a local system using WMP as a client (using the Shared Libraries functionality).  I noticed however that while this worked with my old wma lossless files, it doesn't work with ALAC files, even with wmp tag plus installed.
My Server name appears as a library in wmp, and I can open and navigate my music collection - but when I try to play (stream) a file, I get this error:  "Windows Media Player cannot play the file. The Player might not support the file type or might not support the codec that was used to compress the file"
Is playing streamed files handled differently?   

Thanks,
  Ralph
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: John Lockwood on 27 February, 2014, 08:25:27 PM
Hi Tim,

I have completed the migration of my wma lossless collection to ALAC.  Everything is working great in my Windows 8.1, Windows 7 and WMC environments.  Thanks again for your assistance. 

I do have a question about Shared Libraries.  Although it not essential, it is also possible to stream music from my Server to a local system using WMP as a client (using the Shared Libraries functionality).  I noticed however that while this worked with my old wma lossless files, it doesn't work with ALAC files, even with wmp tag plus installed.
My Server name appears as a library in wmp, and I can open and navigate my music collection - but when I try to play (stream) a file, I get this error:  "Windows Media Player cannot play the file. The Player might not support the file type or might not support the codec that was used to compress the file"
Is playing streamed files handled differently?   

Thanks,
  Ralph

It is my understanding that streaming of music by WMP is only supported for music played by Windows Media Foundation codecs. As the person who came up with the first solution for WMP to play ALAC files  which was a DirectShow filter and was therefore the first person in the World to play an ALAC file in WMP I have some knowledge in this area. As far as I am aware there is still no Media Foundation codec to play ALAC files and all available solutions are either using the same original ALAC compatible DirectShow filter or some other subsequently released ALAC compatible DirectShow filter.

I would certainly be very interested in getting a Media Foundation codec instead.

Unfortunately there seem to be hardly any Media Foundation codecs available for any format, certainly not one for ALAC. If anyone is willing to make one there is free open-source code available for processing ALAC format files. This code is not for an actual Media Foundation codec but could be used for one.

See http://alac.macosforge.org/ (http://alac.macosforge.org/) this is the official open-source code for ALAC as released by Apple. Apple made ALAC an open-source format several years after I came up with the original solution.

My original solution was based on a much more complicated history. The ALAC format had been reverse engineered I believe originally by David Hammerton as per http://craz.net/programs/itunes/alac.html (http://craz.net/programs/itunes/alac.html) this was then used as the basis for an ALAC module written for the BASS development library see http://www.un4seen.com/ (http://www.un4seen.com/) by another developer who subsequently made that module open-source. Yet another developer Milenko Mitrovic, had taken the BASS library and an MP3 module and combined them into a DirectShow filter, I persuaded him to take the BASS library and the ALAC module and do the same thing with them which resulted in the first ever ALAC compatible DirectShow filter, it can play both AAC and ALAC which makes things far simpler since they both use the same .m4a file extension and MPEG4 container. See https://dsp-worx.de/?n=15 (https://dsp-worx.de/?n=15) I believe since this original Directshow Filter a second solution using the ffmpeg DirectShow filter is now possible, however being that it is still a DirectShow filter it still like my original solution does not support streaming via WMP. I also believe most Windows codec packs still use my and Milenko's original solution.

PS. Microsoft do now officially support playing AAC files using a built-in Media Foundation codec and this support was added with Windows7, however they still don't support ALAC files even as far as I am aware of in Windows8.1 (which I have not tried) even though ALAC is now an open-source format. Adding support to WMP for ALAC via the DirectShow filter approach means you have to disable the built-in AAC Media Foundation codec so I would therefore expect you will lose the ability to also stream AAC files.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 28 February, 2014, 10:20:43 AM
Is playing streamed files handled differently?

Yes. Like John says, for local ALAC playback, a DirectShow codec is enough, but for streaming you'll need a Media Foundation codec which as far as I know hasn't been made yet for ALAC.

I haven't looked into the details, but I don't think there's anything WMP Tag Plus can do about this. The plug-in only takes care of putting the ALAC files into Music instead of Other media. Playback is still the responsibility of WMP and the installed DirectShow/Media Foundation codecs.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Treobuddy on 12 August, 2014, 05:20:08 PM
Hi Tim,
new user of FLAC format, I'm about to re-rip all my CDs to FLAC instead of MP3. I would like to add my voice to those requesting the possibility to store WMP rating in the file itself.
I appreciate your comments about the fact that rating are personal, but my files are personal too ;-)
Thank you for you good job.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 13 August, 2014, 07:18:20 AM
Yes: I've changed my mind and the next release of WMP Tag Plus will definitely be able to store ratings in FLAC and Vorbis files. I don't know yet when it will be released (could still be a while), but it's coming.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: ThePC01 on 19 November, 2014, 09:13:25 AM
Error every time start WMP.

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WMP Tag Plus
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WMP Tag Plus  2.2 on Windows 10 Technical Preview 9879 64 bit.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 19 November, 2014, 02:17:48 PM
I haven't got round to testing WMP Tag Plus on Windows 10 yet, so there's currently no support. The same applies to Windows Media Player Plus! and WMPCDText.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: rv2798 on 23 November, 2014, 12:18:45 PM
Hi Tim,

Many thanks for all your hard work on WMP Tag Plus so far.

I had been enjoying my ALAC collection on WMP 12 flawlessly on Windows 8.1 for about 3 months, when suddenly I noticed that new files were not being recognised properly as I copied them into my Music library location. I'm not 100% sure what caused it, but it might have been:

- DoubleTwist sync utility (since uninstalled, to no effect)
- Orzeszek Ratings (no way to uninstall, since it's just a standalone .exe)

I therefore decided to refresh my library by deleting all the tracks and re-adding the folder - unfortunately, since this point I have been stuck with the dreaded "Other Media" problem and have been unable to get my ALAC files to re-appear in the Music section    However, my Mp3 files all appear in the Music section, as expected.

I have tried all the steps mentioned in this forum post:

- deleting the Windows Media folder containng the library files
- reinstalling the WMPTag Plus plugin
- installing the Media Player Plus plugin (in addition)
- deleting audio files from library and then selecting "restore deleted library items"
- ensuring "always add lossless m4a files to library" option is ticked
- "Refresh Song Tags" option in Tools

All of this to no avail.

Is there anything else I can try? I don't want to have to switch to another media player, as I think your solution was the most elegant, when it was working

Thanks in advance for any ideas...
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 24 November, 2014, 02:55:11 PM
Are you using the latest version of WMP Tag Plus, 2.2? Did you perhaps install TaglibHandler too?

If you check in Regedit, what are the contents of the (Default) value at the following keys? (the second key will only exist on a 64-bit Windows system)
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: rv2798 on 27 November, 2014, 05:50:05 PM
Yes I am using the latest version of WMP Tag Plus.

Not sure about TaglibHandler? I have never come across it before.

I checked the registry keys as you suggested and took a screenshot of each one:

Registry - Property Handlers (http://s10.postimg.org/symtndapl/M4_A_property_handler.jpg)

1. {c0212cf9-9262-6e84-a7d9-492f82466cff}
2. {f81b1b56-7613-4ee4-bc05-1fab5de5c07e}

Hopefully this means something to you! 

Thanks!
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 28 November, 2014, 03:09:01 PM
Thanks for providing the registry values. I don't see anything unusual so they're probably not causing the issue.

Did you perhaps install any Windows Updates recently? I was informed that the most recent updates break Windows Media Player Plus's context menu enhancements, KB3000850 is the most likely culprit. If this is the case, the ALAC support in WMP Tag Plus may be affected as well. I'll look into these issues as soon as I find some time.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: rv2798 on 29 November, 2014, 07:33:02 PM
Thanks for getting back to me.

You're prediction is most likely correct, since I checked my Windows update history and I can see a whole stream of updates were applied last week and the week before. Couldn't see any explicit update to WMP, but some of them may have been wider updates which affected WMP in some way. KB3000850 was one of the updates applied.

In the meantime, I have had to resort back to Apple iTunes! I do not understand why, even though the software has been through numerous iterations, and I have upgraded my PC several times, itunes still takes forever to load just like it did years ago!
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Magimix^ on 01 December, 2014, 06:03:19 PM
Hi everyone, first-time poster but long-time lurker.

I just thought I'd also report that my WMP v12 with Tag Plus v2.2 stopped reading any/all FLAC tags a couple of weeks ago so I've had to resort to Foobar2000 to playback my lossless archive. I use Foobar2000 on the side anyway so it's not such a big deal but I use Windows Media Center to watch TV and playing FLACs through Media Player was very handy and I was fond of the integration. I'm running a fairly standard up to date build of Windows 8.1 with Media Center x64. Nothing really out of the ordinary in my rig, just an average gaming PC but I did install KB3000850 around the time it all stopped working a couple of weeks ago. It really disappointed and perplexed me at the time but I'm frankly relieved to see it's not a weird glitch with my system alone (!) and am now hopeful we'll see a v2.3 of WMP Tag Plus at some point in the future

Like rv2798 I attempted to fix the problem by uninstalling/reinstalling not only WMP Tag Plus but the codec pack I was using, dabbled with alternate codec packs etc. unfortunately it simply didn't make a difference. The WMP Tag Plus functionality appears to be fully enabled but the tags are simply aren't being seen with every FLAC showing up under "Unknown" artist.

I've used WMP Tag Plus for literally years across Windows 7 and 8 to play my FLAC collection and so I'd like to try and help if possible. If you need logs or whatever from my system please let me know. I might try rolling back KB3000850 to see if that makes an difference; it was touted as an Optional update (not Important) so my system probably wouldn't be any less secure but whatever that KB update applied will probably be reapplied by Windows Update at some point in the future. So I guess this may be a permanent problem for the 2.2 plug-in going forward.

Cheers
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 03 December, 2014, 05:46:15 AM
I have been able to confirm that KB3000850 is indeed the cause for the broken functionality in WMP Tag Plus (and Windows Media Player Plus), so no additional info is needed at the moment. I'm working on a fix and will post an announcement here when it's available for download.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: dynaxer on 13 December, 2014, 07:56:19 AM
Hello all,

I'm new member of this forum but I use your fantastic WMP TAG PLUS plugin for Windows Media Player 12 since few months!

I would like to add few observations about the issue describe above:
I have reinstalled my Windows 8.1 Pro operating system yesterday evening, so it is a full formated fresh install.
Otherwise, and even without installing the famous KB300850, I am experiencing this issue.
Indeed, currently all my flacs files have there flags set to "unknown".

As far as I can see, the only Windows updates delivered last days are: KB3013816, KB3013769 and KB3012199.
I have tried to uninstall all of them and it didn't make the difference.

Do not hesitate to contact me if you need some logs or others informations because I would like to continue to use your plugin which really helpul and well-done!

Regards,
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: dynaxer on 13 December, 2014, 11:03:23 AM
Hello again,

Just a quick update about my issue.
I have found the cause of my problem : It is the KB3013769
I'm pretty sure that is related to the following issue listed as fixed in the description of this KB3013769: •KB 3014591 File duration is incorrect in a file that is created by Media Foundation MPEG-4 file sink
(more information on: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/3013769) (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/3013769)).

I have checked it on 3 différents PC:
- my own PC (Windows Pro 8.1 fresh install)
- my parents' PC (Windows Pro 8.1 updated from Windows 7, old install...)
- my sister's PC (Windows 8.1)

On these three computers, when I uninstall this KB, my FLAC files are properly displayed in Windows Media Player 12 with WMP TAG PLUS v2.2.

So to summarize, two KB are problematic for now: KB300850 and KB3013769.
As these KB are facultative, I strongly recommand you to don't install these if you want to keep WMP TAG PLUS working fine

I hope it will helps others people because I spent a lot of time to identify the offending.

Best regards,
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 13 December, 2014, 03:21:10 PM
Thanks for the report and for nailing it down to that specific update. I've also just installed KB3013769 on my Windows 8.1 system and didn't notice any new issues other than those caused by KB300850 (which was already installed). So I suspect that the underlying cause for the WMP Tag Plus malfunction is the same for both updates. The upcoming update for WMP Tag Plus will make the plug-in compatible with these Windows Updates.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 23 December, 2014, 05:43:55 PM
Announcement: the beta version of WMP Tag Plus 2.5 is now available for download here (http://bmproductions.fixnum.org/links/?linkid=9).

Changes:

As this is a beta, it’s not unlikely that there still are some bugs. Please let me know if you encounter any problems, so I can fix them for the final release. Thanks!
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: teorouge on 04 January, 2015, 08:45:37 AM
Hello, unfortunately latest 3.5 beta still doesn't work ("One of the core components of WMP Tag Plus is missing or failed to load properly. Please try reinstalling WMP Tag Plus or contact the author if the problem persists." error upon WMP launch) on Win10 Technical Preview 9879 x64. I really can't wait for a Win10-working release as I really miss this plugin, thank you for your commitment and efforts.

BTW: can I provide you some logs/info/whatever to help you sort the Win10 issue? That would be a pleasure.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 04 January, 2015, 03:34:16 PM
There's indeed no Windows 10 support yet, including the 2.5 beta. Remember that it's still only a technical preview, which means that it's not meant for everyday use. Also, a lot of things can still change in future builds, so I'm hesitant to add support now and then later having to do another update of the plug-in because some changes made it incompatible again.

If there is an update that adds (preliminary) Windows 10 support, then it will be explicitly mentioned in the release notes here or on the website.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: teorouge on 05 January, 2015, 05:58:00 AM
Thanks, I'll keep watching for an updated version.
Btw, next January Win 10 preview build will go consumer instead of technical... Final release shouldn't be much different.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: WizudOfOz on 11 January, 2015, 03:40:12 AM
Hi there

I have a problem importing FLAC tags using WMP12 & WMP Tag Plus plugin (either 2.1, 2.2 or 2.5 beta).

I have had to regenerate my WMP library & in doing so WMPT+ crashes repeatedly. I get the same issue when I use the tools option to import.

Error is:
"FLAC tag format support has generated an error...
...
Error code: 2
Exception: EExternalException
Message: External exception E06D7363"

This happens randomly, it is not one particular file, and I then click OK, cancel the import (it keeps going); close WMP, re-start & select FLAC again & do it over.

It then continues for a bit until crashing.

Any solution?

Cheers

Craig
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 11 January, 2015, 12:16:33 PM
Which version of Windows are you running? What's the complete error message? (You should be able to use Ctrl+C on the error message to copy its contents to the clipboard.)

Would it be possible to upload one of the affected files (on something like OneDrive or Dropbox), and to send me the download link by PM? Thanks!
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: WizudOfOz on 12 January, 2015, 08:24:57 AM
Which version of Windows are you running? What's the complete error message? (You should be able to use Ctrl+C on the error message to copy its contents to the clipboard.)

Would it be possible to upload one of the affected files (on something like OneDrive or Dropbox), and to send me the download link by PM? Thanks!


Hi Tim

Sorry, should have included I'm using W7 64 bit.

I'll PM you a Dropbox link to the file & the screencap of the error message window that popped up.

It doesn't seem to be a particular file, looks to be random. Once I repeat the process, the troublesome file will be processed OK. If I repeat the process often enough I'll eventually get through the entire collection & every file will eventually read fine.

Cheers

Craig
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 12 January, 2015, 02:35:01 PM
Thank you for the uploads. I indeed didn't see any problems with that particular file that you uploaded, so it's probably not file-specific. This is starting to look more and more like a memory leak. If you launch Task Manager at the time of the error, what do you see as Memory (Private Working Set) for the wmplayer.exe process (on the Details tab)?
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: sanderton on 14 January, 2015, 05:23:22 AM
Hi, sorry to ask a really dim question, but I can't figure out how to access Settings; can anyone tell me please!

Forget it, gfound it
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: WizudOfOz on 20 January, 2015, 05:10:24 AM
Thank you for the uploads. I indeed didn't see any problems with that particular file that you uploaded, so it's probably not file-specific. This is starting to look more and more like a memory leak. If you launch Task Manager at the time of the error, what do you see as Memory (Private Working Set) for the wmplayer.exe process (on the Details tab)?


Hi Tim

Thanks for replying.

I haven't had the error come up lately so have been unable to review what you suggested above.

It did seem only to happen when I was tagging several hundred files. Lately I've tagged maybe a maximum of 120 with no issue.

I'll keep your suggestion in mind & check it out whenever it crops up again.

Cheers
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 20 January, 2015, 03:42:11 PM
It later occurred to me that you're probably experiencing the dreaded album art memory leak that's present in WMP 12: each time WMP reads the embedded album art from a music file, it leaks the memory that it allocated for that album art. I also checked the file you uploaded and sure enough, it contained rather large (1 MB) album art. If this is the case for a lot of your music files then WMP will eventually occupy all available memory, causing it to crash in various ways.

Note that this memory leak is not related to WMP Tag Plus and also occurs for formats like MP3.

However, I've been able to come up with a workaround that's included in WMP Tag Plus since version 2.2. This workaround is still disabled by default, but if you want I can send you the .reg file to enable it. There's more info about the memory leak and the workaround in this forum post (http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_8-pictures/bug-big-resource-leak-and-crash-w-win8-wmp-and/36c23994-460a-47a1-acdc-2a4194c52e0b) at Microsoft Answers.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: sanderton on 22 January, 2015, 01:57:10 PM
Hi Tim,

I'm getting an "Out of Memory" error when I try to update the tags from the Tools menu. My collection is mainly Apple Lossless. Tere is no more detailed error message unfortunately.

I can watch the wmp memory usage go up until it crashes at about 1.7GB!

Might your memory workaround help me?
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 22 January, 2015, 03:37:58 PM
I have sent you a PM with the instructions to enable the workaround.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: WizudOfOz on 01 February, 2015, 02:32:10 AM
It later occurred to me that you're probably experiencing the dreaded album art memory leak that's present in WMP 12: each time WMP reads the embedded album art from a music file, it leaks the memory that it allocated for that album art. I also checked the file you uploaded and sure enough, it contained rather large (1 MB) album art. If this is the case for a lot of your music files then WMP will eventually occupy all available memory, causing it to crash in various ways.

Note that this memory leak is not related to WMP Tag Plus and also occurs for formats like MP3.

However, I've been able to come up with a workaround that's included in WMP Tag Plus since version 2.2. This workaround is still disabled by default, but if you want I can send you the .reg file to enable it. There's more info about the memory leak and the workaround in this forum post (http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_8-pictures/bug-big-resource-leak-and-crash-w-win8-wmp-and/36c23994-460a-47a1-acdc-2a4194c52e0b) at Microsoft Answers.


Hi Tim

Please send me the workaround.

Thanks for your assistance.

Craig
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: RobotRoss on 16 February, 2015, 11:57:43 AM
I'm running Windows 10, getting the same old "Missing core components" error.

Really annoying me, Windows 10 is set for release later this year, and has a consumer preview available -- This means the OS is unlikely to face any kind of core changes from now on!

Please add support for Windows 10!
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 16 February, 2015, 12:41:16 PM
Well, I still need to officially release version 2.5, which is currently still in beta. The final 2.5 release won't have Windows 10 support either. (Sorry!)

After that, I'll look into adding Windows 10 support to my plug-ins. Seeing as you're not the first person asking for this, there are quite some people using the consumer preview for everyday use, which is kinda disturbing.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: RobotRoss on 16 February, 2015, 01:22:57 PM
Well, I still need to officially release version 2.5, which is currently still in beta. The final 2.5 release won't have Windows 10 support either. (Sorry!)

After that, I'll look into adding Windows 10 support to my plug-ins. Seeing as you're not the first person asking for this, there are quite some people using the consumer preview for everyday use, which is kinda disturbing.

Thanks!

I think it's because when pitched against Windows 8 / 8.1, Windows 10 does a much better job as a workstation operating system, instead of forcing users to use a tablet interface on their non-touchscreen computers, as well as just plain running faster on some machines thanks to some memory fixes!
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: avoigt750 on 27 February, 2015, 03:33:12 PM
WMP Tag Plus 2.5 beta is causing the CPU usage going to nearly 100% every time I start WMP.
Not complaining, as it's a beta. Just trying to help fixing bugs.
Using Win 8.1 64 / WMP 12 with all updates to today. It seems I can' t include a screenshot of the task manager here but if required I can provide more information.

thank you for your efforts, looking forward to the final version!
Axel



Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 27 February, 2015, 03:51:52 PM
How long does it take for the CPU usage to go back to normal? Can you use WMP during that time, or is it unresponsive? Do you see any progress dialog (or other indication of what WMP is doing)?

How many audio/video files does your library contain?
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: avoigt750 on 06 March, 2015, 08:44:25 PM
sorry for the delayed answer. Thought the forum would automatically notify me when there are answers.

Well, I am confused now. I did some further tests now and WMP is getting the cpu usage to 100% even after I uninstalled WMP Tag Plus

I'm quite sure, WMP shows this behaviour only after having installed WMP Tag Plus once , but I can't be sure.


Here my answers anyway:

> How long does it take for the CPU usage to go back to normal?

It seems it does not go back to normal ever. Tested it for about 30 min

> Can you use WMP during that time, or is it unresponsive?

I can use WMP during that time, indeed.

> Do you see any progress dialog (or other indication of what WMP is doing)?

no, it just keeps on playing music

> How many audio/video files does your library contain?

about 5.200 audio files, 45 videos.

thanks,
Axel
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 07 March, 2015, 03:11:41 PM
Are you sure that it's the wmplayer.exe process that's using the CPU?

Does the CPU usage persist if you stop music playback? What's the file type of the music files being played?

If it's the wmplayer.exe process, right-click it in Task Manager and select Create Dump File. You can then upload the generated dump file to something like Dropbox/Onedrive, and send me the download link by PM. I'll take a look.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: avoigt750 on 07 March, 2015, 05:30:14 PM
> Are you sure that it's the wmplayer.exe process that's using the CPU?

It has never been the wmplayer, but some service host process. Of that I put a dump here
https://cloud.1und1.de/ngcloud/external?pat...inName=42130315 (https://cloud.1und1.de/ngcloud/external?path=WMPTag%20von%2042130315&token=40658E011DA7437C&mandant=06&locale=de&viewType=0&guestToken=VVYPssISShSYXilBk5mSSQ&loginName=42130315)
plus a screenshot of the task manager.

> Does the CPU usage persist if you stop music playback?What's the file type of the music files being played?

After Starting WMP the cpu usage goes up even without starting any song ...

Axel

Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 08 March, 2015, 12:28:31 PM
In the dump file I see that the high CPU usage is probably caused by the UPnP (Universal Plug and Play) Device Host service. This could be related to the media library sharing functionality in WMP, and I don't think that this is directly caused by WMP Tag Plus.

You could try stopping the service or disabling media library sharing in WMP. Resetting your media library might also help.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tobubuta on 09 March, 2015, 08:26:13 PM
Hi, I was trying to rebuild my WMP library, which I noticed was getting buggy. I didn't think this would be a problem, but WMP is not adding any of my FLACs to the library, only the MP3s. (I have over 35,000 files in my library, and MP3s are only 947 of them.)

I have been using WMP tag Plus for a couple of years with no issues, save for the one I had initially, (you can check my history on that), and I tried refreshing the song tags, which takes several hours. The result is a list of files, which I exported to an Excel spreadsheet of over 3100 lines, delineating some 1500 FLAC files with an error message: "Not enough storage is available to complete this operation. 8007000E." I also think that this file is not complete, as the file names here are only going up to "Stony." We are missing the end of the alphabet.

Now, some 9415 other FLAC files are showing up in the library, but as a giant Unknown Album. Only my MP#s are being cataloged. Can you help?

BTW, WMP still plays the FLACs, just doesn't add them to the library.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: saratoga on 09 March, 2015, 08:32:05 PM
That code is E_OUTOFMEMORY.  Are you on a 32 bit machine?
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tobubuta on 09 March, 2015, 11:31:03 PM
I would think so. Windows 8.1.

Just as a little further info, I noticed a few days ago that WMP wasn't automatically adding folders of new FLACS, or updates those FLACS when I changed information in the library, such as adding composer names, or altering song titles, etc. This is why I thought I'd rebuild the library, which up until this point, had been pretty much a hassle free task, thanks to WMP Tag Plus.

Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tobubuta on 10 March, 2015, 01:26:41 PM
Perhaps I should say, it should be 64-bit, shouldn't it?
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tobubuta on 10 March, 2015, 03:55:33 PM
One more time: Looking at the Task Manager here, it does says that WMP is 32 bit.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 10 March, 2015, 04:04:10 PM
Which version of WMP Tag Plus do you have installed?

Is WMP Tag Plus still listed and checked in WMP's Tools - Plug-ins menu? (press Ctrl+M if you don't see the Tools menu)

Did you install any Windows updates just before the issue started occurring? Or perhaps Windows installed some updates automatically?

To be honest, 35 000 songs is a bit out of the limits of what Refresh song tags has been tested with (which probably explains the out of memory error), so I suggest that you restrict yourself to just resetting the library, which should provide similar results.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: avoigt750 on 10 March, 2015, 04:48:44 PM
> In the dump file I see that the high CPU usage is probably caused by the UPnP (Universal Plug and Play) Device Host service. This > could be related to the media library sharing functionality in WMP, and I don't think that this is directly caused by WMP Tag Plus.

> You could try stopping the service or disabling media library sharing in WMP. Resetting your media library might also help.

Right you are! Deactivating media library sharing in WMP is the solution.
There seems to be some problem on my system conderning media library sharing which has nothing to do with WMP Tag Plus. It makes no difference whether WMP Tag Plus is activated or even installed.

thanks,
Axel
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tobubuta on 10 March, 2015, 04:52:41 PM
WMP Tag is 2.2, and it is still listed as active in the plugins menu. There were quite possibly some Windows updates around the time of the issue, which could always have caused problems.

What do you mean by resetting the library? Just adding by hand? This is what I had been doing, but I was trying to get back those lovely features I was enjoying before. I do have a copy of the library from January that I have reinserted, so most of my library is still there. I just have to re-add the bits that are newer. Should have made a copy before I tried to rebuild. Oops.

35,000 too many!? But I'm just getting started!

Do you think that removing and reinstalling WMP Tag Plus would do any good?
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 10 March, 2015, 05:11:43 PM
Yes; removing and reinstalling WMP Tag Plus is always worth a try.

For resetting WMP's media library: see the instructions in my answer in this forum thread (http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_vista-pictures/windows-media-player-11-lists-and-plays-every-song/f5fa32f6-315a-4b69-b127-dcd71600baf1) at Microsoft Answers.

Just to be clear, 35 000 songs might be too many, but only for Refresh song tags. The main WMP Tag Plus functionality should be able to handle that many songs fine.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Lyle on 11 March, 2015, 01:56:34 PM
Hi Tobubuta,

since today I've got the same problem. This morning I had to rebuild my windows media player library. But now WMP Tag Plus does not read the tags of my flac files anymore. With mp3 files I don't have any problems.

I've already deleted my windows media player library and rebuild it. I've uninstalled the plugin, rebooted my computer, reinstalled the plugin. But it didn't help. I've directed windows media player just to watch one folder containing five flac files. It read those five files, but without tags. It says, the album and everything is unknown. Windows media player just displayes the title as written in the files name. But other media players like foobar don't have this problem. They read all the tags.

I am using Windows 8.1 Pro, 64-bit, windows media player Version 12.0.9600.17415 and WMP Tag Plus 2.2. Windows is always downloading the current windows updates automatically. It also downloaded updates after the problem appeared, although this didn't solve my problems.

Who can help?
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Lyle on 11 March, 2015, 02:06:24 PM
It's astonishing.

Right after I've posted my problem, I restarted windows media player, deleted the five files folder from the library and added my usual flac folder again. And immediatly windows media player started to read the files with all the tags. My problem is solved, still I don't know why and how.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Lyle on 11 March, 2015, 04:07:15 PM
Now I see: The problem is not solved. Before I wrote my last post, I made a mistake. I added also the folder with my aac files, and the windows media player read those files, but I didn't realize it. Sorry. The fact is: The WMP Tag Plus does not read the flac tags.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 11 March, 2015, 04:40:46 PM
I suggest that you try installing the 2.5 beta (http://bmproductions.fixnum.org/links/?linkid=9) of WMP Tag Plus, as it contains some compatibility fixes for Windows 8.1. Does that help?
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: dynaxer on 12 March, 2015, 05:19:17 PM
Dear Tim,

I have tested WMP Tag Plus 2.5 beta in order to see if FLAC issues are fixed and unfortunately it seems not.
Indeed, with WMP 12.0.9600.17031 based on Windows 8.1 Pro (x64), I am still unable to display FLAC tags properly.
Does another Microsoft update could broke the compatibilities fixes you've done?

Thanks in advance.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 12 March, 2015, 05:22:55 PM
Thanks for trying the beta and reporting here. I'll take a look during the weekend if a new Windows Update could be the cause for the issues seen. Will report back here once I know more.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: dynaxer on 12 March, 2015, 05:34:08 PM
Tim,

Are you able to reproduce this issue on your side?
Do you need a FLAC sample file to test?
Last time, I was able to find which Microsoft update causes this issue, but with the huge amount of updates that Microsoft issued this week, I worry that I will not be able to do the same for this time. Sorry.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 13 March, 2015, 03:19:24 PM
I have been able to reproduce this issue, and was able to pin it down to one of these 5 updates (the first one is the most likely culprit):

KB3039066
KB3035132
KB3046049
KB3035126
KB3035131

Luckily, I think I can release a new 2.5 beta that addresses this issue pretty soon, probably by the end of the weekend. I'll post an announcement here when the new beta is available.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: dynaxer on 13 March, 2015, 04:27:21 PM
Hi Tim,

Many thanks for your work.
I'll look forward your feedback.

Have a good weekend.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 14 March, 2015, 05:17:37 PM
Announcement: a second beta of WMP Tag Plus 2.5 is now available for download here (http://bmproductions.fixnum.org/links/?linkid=9). The only change compared to the first beta is that this one fixes broken plug-in functionality after installing the latest round of Windows Updates on Windows 8.1. Everyone using WMP Tag Plus on Windows 8.1 is highly encouraged to update.

See my previous post for the list of changes in the first beta:

  • New: read/write support for star ratings stored in FLAC and Ogg Vorbis files.
  • New: read/write support for star ratings stored in MPEG-4 files (Windows Media Player 11 only). This is compatible with the native MPEG-4 support in Windows Media Player 12.
  • New: when adding new extensions in WMP Tag Plus settings, the plug-in now offers to restart Windows Media Player for the changes to take effect. After the restart, WMP Tag Plus will scan all library locations so existing files with the new extensions get added to the media library.
  • New: the aforementioned scan of all library locations is also performed when WMP Tag Plus has just been installed, and has also been added to the existing Refresh song tags scan.
  • Fixed: broken plug-in functionality on Windows 8.1 after installation of the November 2014 (KB3000850) or December 2014 (KB3013769) Windows update rollups. Special thanks to rv2798 and dynaxer for reporting.
  • Fixed: with WMP Tag Plus disabled, the usual warning at Windows Media Player startup didn't appear if the Comodo Firewall software was installed.
  • To prevent possible loss of all tags in a music file (as caused by an overzealous Windows Media Player, especially on Windows 8), WMP Tag Plus now ignores all tag delete requests for files whose duration isn't known yet in the library. Such files can be 'fixed' by using Refresh song tags in settings, after which all tag writes are allowed again.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: dynaxer on 15 March, 2015, 11:21:57 AM
Hi Tim,

From my point of view, all issues related to FLAC playback/tags are fixed with v2.5 beta2.
I will test it deeper in the next days and I'll keep you posted if something goes wrong.

Thanks again for your work!
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Nokiaman on 16 March, 2015, 06:40:16 AM
Yep new FLAC songs I added recently just got proper tags after I used Refresh song tags
Good job! 
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Lyle on 16 March, 2015, 11:39:20 AM
It works! Thank you. You saved my day. 

But my antivirus scanner avast didn't want me to download the file. It said, that this file would be malware. I had to switch the scanner off. After downloading avast scanned it again, this time without reporting any threat.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 16 March, 2015, 02:12:30 PM
Must have been a false positive - everything looks ok at VirusTotal (https://www.virustotal.com/nl/file/ab02645f9feb1c6fc54c5072a4d1254e85ed3e35d348868115b9cf45632bc729/analysis/1426529190/).
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: vodka92 on 19 March, 2015, 08:10:24 AM
Hello,

First of all, thank you for this great program that I use for a small year.

I am French and I just tested version 2.5 beta 2 for this function: "New: read / write medium for star ratings Stored in FLAC and Ogg Vorbis files."

Unfortunately I meet a concern.
The 1-star rating is 20
The 5 star rating is 100
Why did you choose these values?

In the folder if I put the category "star" I see 5 stars every time.
After testing, I set as a value:
  - 1 star = 1
  - 5 star = 5
And then everything works.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 19 March, 2015, 02:12:22 PM
WMP Tag Plus indeed writes the star ratings to FLAC/Vorbis as 20, 40, 60, 80, 100. There is no standard that says how to write ratings to these formats, so I just followed the same approach as Winamp, which can be considered as the de facto standard.

In the folder if I put the category "star" I see 5 stars every time.

Where exactly do you see this? As far as I know, Windows Explorer doesn’t have native support for FLAC/Vorbis tags. Perhaps you have another third-party add-on installed that adds such support? (It can’t be WMP Tag Plus since that only adds support in WMP.)
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: vodka92 on 20 March, 2015, 09:45:27 AM

Thank you for your answer!

I have noted that you made based on Winamp rating system.
But WMP air to have another scoring system.

When I look at the metadata of an .mp3 I see that:
1 = 1 star
2 = 2 star
...
5 = 5 star
Basically I use WMP to assign the stars.

I think it would be best to do a test with .flac Windows 10 since flac is natively integrated. Then just see the metadata to know what rating WMP uses?

To see the stars in the files I use the software "Opencodecs v0.85.17777."
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 20 March, 2015, 03:33:47 PM
As far as I know, OpenCodecs only adds playback support, so it must be something else that's showing the tags in Explorer. Which version of Windows are you running?

I'm not sure what would be the point of doing such a test on Windows 10. I have already implemented the rating handling in WMP Tag Plus to be in line with Winamp's and I have no plans to change it again before the final 2.5 release.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: rknox on 26 March, 2015, 12:04:18 PM
Hi Tim,

I have been using dbPowerAmp CD Ripper to re-rip my CD collection - still ALAC but taking advantage of AccurateRip.    I have the SW installed on two different machines to take advantage of different CD drives.
I noticed on the Win 7 system that my .m4a files (not just the newly ripped, but older ones also) are getting stuck in Other Media again.  The problem goes away though as soon as I uninstall the CD Ripper.  This problem doesn't occur on my 8.1 system. 
I assume it has something to do with Codecs (I am using DC-Bass DirectShow on both systems) and recently updated to Beta 2 of Tag Plus 2.5, though that doesn't seem to be a factor.  Have you seen this before?

Thanks,
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 26 March, 2015, 05:30:17 PM
It's possible that the dBpoweramp CD Ripper replaces Windows 7's native MPEG-4 property handler with its own (which seems kind of useless since the native property handler works fine, even for ALAC). The CD Ripper might have a setting somewhere to undo this, or you could add this .reg file to the registry to manually restore the native property handler:

Code: [Select]
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\PropertySystem\PropertyHandlers\.m4a]
@="{f81b1b56-7613-4ee4-bc05-1fab5de5c07e}"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\PropertySystem\PropertyHandlers\.m4a]
@="{f81b1b56-7613-4ee4-bc05-1fab5de5c07e}"

You may need to reboot afterwards. Does that help?
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: rknox on 27 March, 2015, 03:34:03 PM
It's possible that the dBpoweramp CD Ripper replaces Windows 7's native MPEG-4 property handler with its own (which seems kind of useless since the native property handler works fine, even for ALAC). The CD Ripper might have a setting somewhere to undo this, or you could add this .reg file to the registry to manually restore the native property handler:

Code: [Select]
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\PropertySystem\PropertyHandlers\.m4a]
@="{f81b1b56-7613-4ee4-bc05-1fab5de5c07e}"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\PropertySystem\PropertyHandlers\.m4a]
@="{f81b1b56-7613-4ee4-bc05-1fab5de5c07e}"

You may need to reboot afterwards. Does that help?


Thanks Tim,  nothing configurable in the app, but your Registry changes worked.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 29 March, 2015, 12:08:11 PM
Announcement: WMP Tag Plus 2.5 has gone out of beta and the final version (http://bmproductions.fixnum.org/wmptagplus/) is now available for download. This final version doesn't contain any new functionality or fixes compared to the last beta version. See the Version History page (http://bmproductions.fixnum.org/wmptagplus/history.htm) for a detailed list of what's new and what has been fixed since version 2.2.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: vanden on 02 May, 2015, 06:52:38 AM
Hello,

how to remove completely WMP Tag Plus 2.5 ?
Because I 've uninstalled completely, delete the WMP library (\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Media Player), rebooted the PC.
But when I add a folder with Flac/eac/MPC : it is still reconnu by WMP !

The problem Is that a no-native format is in the WMP library my WindowsPhone/MoliPlayer seen nothing in the Music folder ...
Before installing WMP Tag Plus 2.5, mp3 are visible in WMP and MolipPlayer. Now (Despite uninstall WMP Tag Plus 2.5) all formats (Ape/Flac/Mpc/Ogg ...) are visible in WMP but my phone/MoliPlayer not see anything ...
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 02 May, 2015, 03:12:44 PM
WMP Tag Plus indeed doesn't remove the registration of non-native formats with WMP on uninstall. I don't think users will be pleased when they remove WMP Tag Plus and then see that their non-native files are suddenly removed from WMP's library as well.

You can still remove the registrations manually by removing the corresponding registry keys in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\Multimedia\WMPlayer\Extensions (leave out Wow6432Node on 32-bit systems).
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: vanden on 03 May, 2015, 05:52:07 AM
You can still remove the registrations manually by removing the corresponding registry keys in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\Multimedia\WMPlayer\Extensions (leave out Wow6432Node on 32-bit systems).


Thank you !
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Swagata on 15 June, 2015, 04:59:52 AM
I am using Tag Plus latest version in Win 8.1 64 bit. When I use the refresh song tags, flac files tags are read and theose songs become available in library. But if I close wmp and start again, all those flac files are moved to Unknown artist and the tags isn't red. I can use the refresh tags and it will work again but after restarting wmp, they go back to Unknown artist section.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 15 June, 2015, 11:58:52 AM
Please make sure that you have the latest version of WMP Tag Plus, version 2.5.

I suggest that you try rebuilding WMP's library by following these instructions. First note that resetting the library will make you lose all current play counts, and possibly ratings too. Then, follow these steps:
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 26 July, 2015, 03:22:31 PM
Announcement: WMP Tag Plus 2.6 beta is now available for download here (http://bmproductions.fixnum.org/links/?linkid=10). This version fixes broken plug-in functionality in the latest preview builds and the RTM build of Windows 10, and adds official support for Windows Media Player 12 on Windows 10. The plug-in's Apple Lossless support is now also disabled on Windows 10 since it's not needed anymore there (Microsoft has added native support for Apple Lossless).
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Magimix^ on 02 August, 2015, 07:56:01 AM
I upgraded to Windows 10 Pro x64 via the official final ISO and also installed the latest WMP Tag Plus 2.6 beta on Wednesday. Must admit I was fully expecting everything to be completely broken (due to Microsoft) but surprisingly my FLAC library and all the WMP 12 functionality was mostly intact. The only thing I noticed was when I ripped a new CD in FLAC WMP recognised everything about the files (Artist, Title, Artwork etc) except the Date. It simply shows "Unknown Year" for new files. Most of my FLACs I try to date as YYYY-MM-DD which I assumed was the problem but it is also happening on files where the field is simply YYYY.

Anyway no big deal but I just thought I'd bring it to your attention in case it's new.

Once again, many thanks for all your hard work  I'm just relieved Tag Plus still seems to work with WMP.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 02 August, 2015, 04:12:55 PM
Microsoft has added native FLAC support in Windows 10, which means that WMP Tag Plus isn't used anymore for FLAC tagging support in WMP there. The Unknown Year issue is due to the native support not recognizing the DATE or YEAR tag in FLAC files.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: hopfi on 08 August, 2015, 10:26:11 AM
Microsoft has added native FLAC support in Windows 10, which means that WMP Tag Plus isn't used anymore for FLAC tagging support in WMP there. The Unknown Year issue is due to the native support not recognizing the DATE or YEAR tag in FLAC files.


Any plans to get WMP Tag Plus working again under W10? Is that even possible?

I have been trying to get Windows 10 Media Player to read my FLAC files as it did under W7. It is a complete mess.   

All my files are tagged with Mp3tag. Every single tag is checked by me before an album goes into the library.
Media Player now throws about 10% of all files into the unknown category. Either unknown artist, album or genre, or all of these together. Which was quite a shock, because it worked beautifully in W7 with WMP Tag Plus. Not a single date tag is recognized.

And retagging the not recognized stuff only rarely helps. And due to the amount of files, I really do not want to retag files that are already perfectly tagged.

Groove is of course just as bad. Microsoft really messed this up - to support something is supposed to mean it works. FLAC does not really work in W10,
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 08 August, 2015, 11:32:01 AM
Yes, it is technically possible to add an option to my plug-in to override the native FLAC tagging support in Windows 10.

However, switching in WMP from one tagging support implementation to another on-the-fly isn't without danger. WMP will always try to keep the tags in the file in sync with the tags in its library. So after switching, it will write the missing tags back to the file, meaning that the original tags in the file are erased.

To prevent this, I would only allow a change of the new 'override' option while there are no FLAC songs in WMP's library. This would force you to temporarily remove all FLAC songs from the library. A bit of a hassle, but the alternative (loss of tags) is much worse. And this manual action would be a one-time thing.

Just let me know what you think, then I might add such an option.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: hopfi on 08 August, 2015, 12:28:14 PM
That would be wonderful.

But maybe wait a little while. I do not think Microsoft cares much about the WMP, but that Groove music app has the same problems with flac files (I do not have any "High-Res" files by the way). And maybe they will fix that., and thereby fix the WMP too.

Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: ThePC01 on 09 August, 2015, 12:47:18 PM
I use WMP on Windows 10 Pro 64 bit.
I install:
- FLACPropertyHandlerSetup_x64 (v1.5)
- WMPTagPlus-2.5
- K-Lite_Codec_Pack_1136_Mega

All file .mp3 show Album Artist and Contributing Artist as normal.
File .flac:
1. If view file flac with <media info> have propperty  (sample)
  WM/UNIQUEFILEIDENTIFIER    : ;
  WM/WMCOLLECTIONGROUPID      : {518E5E81-FF17-4EA0-82FC-6A0B1752DD05}
  WM/WMCOLLECTIONID          : {518E5E81-FF17-4EA0-82FC-6A0B1752DD05}
  WM/WMCONTENTID              : {28F6F5F4-53CB-4A03-880E-E84742FFE0C3}
  ==> on WMP library show both Album Artist and Contributing Artist.

2. If view file flac with <media info> do not have these propperty (above)
on WMP library only show Album Artist (group on left side) (One Artist / an album), but WMP do not show Aritst of each song in album. (column Contributing Artist blank)

I use dBpoweramp and Tag&Rename to view and edit flac tag. Tags on these programs is correct.

Anyone can fix this problem?
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 09 August, 2015, 02:30:29 PM
You don't need to install any of those 3 packages for FLAC support in Windows 10. Microsoft has added native support for FLAC there. However, Microsoft's support isn't complete (yet?), which explains why the Contributing Artist tag is sometimes not picked up.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 15 August, 2015, 02:53:11 PM
Announcement: WMP Tag Plus 2.6 has gone out of beta and the final version (http://bmproductions.fixnum.org/wmptagplus/) is now available for download. There are no new features or fixes compared to the beta version. See the Version History page (http://bmproductions.fixnum.org/wmptagplus/history.htm) for a detailed list of what's new and what has been fixed since version 2.5.

Regarding the use of WMP Tag Plus for FLAC on Windows 10, this update doesn't change anything about that. The native FLAC support is still always used and there is no 'override' option in WMP Tag Plus yet. More on that later.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: ucw on 16 August, 2015, 06:48:27 AM
I think 'Artist' names longer than 31 characters are causing issues - I'm not sure if it is Windows 10 or with WMP Tag Plus - or somewhere else. I'm using the latest ver. 2.6. And I've tried several ways to change 'Artist', ID-Tag (dbPoweramp) or Mp3Tag. In the screendump the first two tracks are listed with "Orchestral Manoeuvres In The Da" and the next tracks with artist set to "Orchestral Manoeuvres In The Dark" - as You can see tracknumber and AlbumArtist disappears. If I have more characters than 31 plus a second artist (with seperator) it looks like track 7 (indeed weird in WMP). If You have several more artists, but with 'short' names, all is OK - even above 31 characters. Am I doing something wrong? (Text is in a Danish win10/Explorer and danish WMP - 'kunstner = Artist", 'Ukendt' = Unknown) (https://hydrogenaud.io/imgcache.php?id=20058020f91f32b3d64ac1e1c061d8d0" rel="cached" data-warn="External image, click to view at original size" data-url="http://i59.tinypic.com/1zv8x2x.png) (https://hydrogenaud.io/imgcache.php?id=dbb9d0981eee9e81a3fe4b3d77aec925" rel="cached" data-warn="External image, click to view at original size" data-url="http://i59.tinypic.com/1zxxxt1.png) (https://hydrogenaud.io/imgcache.php?id=259d7f4ec23d4bc9306c9fcd5e767132" rel="cached" data-warn="External image, click to view at original size" data-url="http://i61.tinypic.com/w8t6xe.png)
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: hopfi on 16 August, 2015, 08:28:32 AM
Am I doing something wrong?


No. It's Windows 10 doing it wrong.
I have the same problem. Especially Jazz albums with several artists were badly messed up. Many albums half recognized, half not.

I have turned WMP off for now, deleted  the database, and use a foobar portable with facets to browse in the cover art. After FreeFieSync wanted to sync my entire flac collection after it was in WMP, I am not letting that thing anywhere near my collection again for now.


Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 16 August, 2015, 02:41:50 PM
I think 'Artist' names longer than 31 characters are causing issues - I'm not sure if it is Windows 10 or with WMP Tag Plus - or somewhere else.

hopfi is correct; WMP Tag Plus isn't used for FLAC on Windows 10 so this is an issue with Microsoft's FLAC support. I suggest that you use the feedback tool in Windows 10 to report it.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 19 August, 2015, 03:21:02 PM
Yes, it is technically possible to add an option to my plug-in to override the native FLAC tagging support in Windows 10.

Unlike what I've said here, I have decided not to add such an override option to WMP Tag Plus after all. I'm afraid that it will cause too many issues, such as a possible loss of tags when the plug-in gets disabled/uninstalled, or when the 64-bit version of WMP is used.

Instead, I have put instructions online on how to disable Windows 10's native FLAC tag support altogether. This will also force the use of WMP Tag Plus for FLAC on Windows 10, and is much safer than the override option.

These instructions can be found on the new WMP Tag Plus FAQ (http://bmproductions.fixnum.org/wiki/FAQ_%28WMP_Tag_Plus%29) wiki page ("How do I disable Microsoft's native FLAC tag support in Windows 10?").
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: hopfi on 20 August, 2015, 08:32:51 AM
Thank you. Followed your instructions on a W10 Pro 64, and FLAC tags are then perfectly recognized in both WMP and Groove app.

But FLAC files do not play. Installed a Media Foundation FLAC Codec. Did not help.

Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 20 August, 2015, 10:30:42 AM
What's the error message? Is this in WMP, Groove, or both? How are you starting playback?

If you use the .reg file to undo your changes, does that fix it again?
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: hopfi on 20 August, 2015, 11:14:35 AM
Both Grovve and WMP do not play FLAC.
With the codec installed, Groove gives out this message: http://i.imgur.com/6Fw8tPq.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/6Fw8tPq.jpg)  Sorry it is in german. But the message is not really helpful.
WMP does nothing, or freezes & crashes, when I start playback.
And I think I tried every possible way of starting playback.

When I uninstall the codec, and try to start playback, I get the message that the file type is not supported. Both in Groove and WMP. WMP does not freeze anymore.

The rollback with your .reg file did not work. Yes, I restarted. Tried it twice.




Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 20 August, 2015, 11:29:04 AM
Did the .reg file fail to restore native FLAC tag support? Or did it fail to fix playback? Or both?
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: hopfi on 20 August, 2015, 11:46:33 AM
FLAC tag support was set back to native, according to WMP Tag Plus. Did not check by adding new flac files to the library.

Playback is broken.


EDIT

Just tried fixing it by taking the reg files from another machine. Did not work.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 20 August, 2015, 01:14:54 PM
The .reg file reverts everything that you changed by following the instructions. If FLAC playback is still broken after that, then it must have been already broken before you followed the instructions. However, you could still try rolling back to the system restore point that was created in step 1.

Disabling tag support shouldn't have any impact on playback - the two are completely separated in Windows (just like there is WMP Tag Plus on one side and there are codecs on the other). To be really sure, I also verified if FLAC playback still worked after testing my instructions on Windows 10, and it did.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: hopfi on 20 August, 2015, 06:57:18 PM
Went to a backup where I was sure that playback had still worked. And did the registry modifications again.

This time it works. Tags are fine in the WMP and playback works too.

But FLAC tags in the Groove app are still a complete mess, also covers not showing. Strangely, that was different on the attempt before. But I have no idea what I did differently.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 21 August, 2015, 06:30:25 AM
WMP Tag Plus only works in WMP. I haven't checked it but the plug-in probably doesn't even get loaded when using Groove. There are no plans to extend the plug-in to work in Groove as well.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: tannerle on 03 September, 2015, 10:59:58 PM
Tin, I cannot seem to get some .m4a music files to appear in Music.  I am using Windows 10 64-bit, WMP 12, and WMP Tag Plus 2.5.  I installed DC-Bass Source Mod 1.5.2.0 since it was newer.  I used the Tools in WMP Tag Plus, the removed the files from the Other Meda library, and then restored the deleted library items.  And the songs continue to appear in Other Media.  What might be causing this?

Thank you for this product and your excellent service!
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 04 September, 2015, 12:26:16 PM
Are these files in the AAC or Apple Lossless format, or perhaps even something else? Do they contain any other streams than audio (video, picture...)?

Are you running the final build of Windows 10? There's native Apple Lossless support there, so no need for WMP Tag Plus or DC-Bass anymore.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Magimix^ on 05 September, 2015, 12:56:49 PM
I followed Tim's very handy Wiki instructions and turned off the native FLAC support in Windows 10 because it's basically rubbish. Yes it can play the files but they made such a mess of it being able to read standard FLAC tags; no Contributing Artist or Date information and for some reason it shows the artwork as the anything but the "Front Cover" if you have other images embedded in the file I.e."Back Cover" or "Media". I use Mp3tag to edit my file tags and like to include the rear artwork or disc image sometimes. Don't get me wrong, I'm quite happy with Windows 10 and I've even embraced the new Start Menu (was on Classic Shell in 8.1) but they really should have held off on the FLAC native support as it strikes me as being very half-finished. Hopefully the problems may be rectified in a future hot-fix from Microsoft Update? Who knows.

I had to spend part of an evening rebuilding my WMP FLAC library from scratch but I'm far happier with a 3rd party codec pack and Tag Plus v2.6 - once again normal service has been resumed.

Many thanks, Tim 
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: tannerle on 06 September, 2015, 12:36:20 PM
Are these files in the AAC or Apple Lossless format, or perhaps even something else? Do they contain any other streams than audio (video, picture...)?

Are you running the final build of Windows 10? There's native Apple Lossless support there, so no need for WMP Tag Plus or DC-Bass anymore.



Yes, I am running the final build of Windows 10.  There is a need for something, because I have over 30 songs that appear in the Other Media library, and they are just random songs from various albums.  All the other songs from those albums are in the Music library.  I did a spot check of about 5 songs, and all used the AAC LC codec, MPEG-4 Apple Audio with iTunes info.  There is no video associated with these files, and no other audio or video streams. 

Any other ideas that might be causing this?

Thank you for your help.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 06 September, 2015, 02:46:43 PM
I suggest that you try rebuilding WMP's library by following these instructions. First note that resetting the library will make you lose all current play counts, and possibly ratings too. Then, follow these steps:

Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: spyrus on 08 October, 2015, 02:14:07 AM
Hello, i am using WMP Tag Plus since Windows 7.
I have upgraded to Windows 10 and unfortunately
i had the crash issue with my library that contains mostly FLAC files.
I have disable the FLAC native support, but now
the WMP can detect only half of my library.
The half problematic one is shown as unknown artist (all songs are in there).
By the way FLAC are still playing, did not have to add any decoder (such as mFLAC).

MP3Tag on those songs are correct.
So, what to do here?
And secondly, why if i change something in Library with WMP Tag Plus, those meta are not written also at the actual
metadata file (like what MP3Tag plus does)?
I have the options in WMP Library->Automatic Media Information update for files
1)Retrieve additional information from the Internet->Overwrite all media information
2)Rename music files using rip music settings
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: spyrus on 08 October, 2015, 06:56:08 AM
Hello, i am using WMP Tag Plus since Windows 7.
I have upgraded to Windows 10 and unfortunately
i had the crash issue with my library that contains mostly FLAC files.
I have disable the FLAC native support, but now
the WMP can detect only half of my library.
The half problematic one is shown as unknown artist (all songs are in there).
By the way FLAC are still playing, did not have to add any decoder (such as mFLAC).

MP3Tag on those songs are correct.
So, what to do here?
And secondly, why if i change something in Library with WMP Tag Plus, those meta are not written also at the actual
metadata file (like what MP3Tag plus does)?
I have the options in WMP Library->Automatic Media Information update for files
1)Retrieve additional information from the Internet->Overwrite all media information
2)Rename music files using rip music settings



Seems that the unknown songs are the ones that have no Album / Composer artist as they look over WMP but MP3 tag has the artist column filled!
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 08 October, 2015, 08:55:04 AM
Do you have the latest version of WMP Tag Plus, version 2.6?

Before disabling the native FLAC tag support, did you remove all FLAC songs from the library first? (as instructed by the FAQ)

You're confusing me by mentioning different tags (Album/Composer/Artist). Which tags are missing in WMP and which tags do you still see in Mp3tag as being filled in?
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: spyrus on 10 October, 2015, 07:47:19 AM
Do you have the latest version of WMP Tag Plus, version 2.6?

Before disabling the native FLAC tag support, did you remove all FLAC songs from the library first? (as instructed by the FAQ)

You're confusing me by mentioning different tags (Album/Composer/Artist). Which tags are missing in WMP and which tags do you still see in Mp3tag as being filled in?


I did not removed the files from library.
I now see some flac but after i update the album info from internet , i reopen WMP and it can not store all info.
About different tags, ignore the comment.
I am trying to see what common have the unknown flacs with the known flacs.
Should be the original rip method to flac?
Why i can see no difference in tagging between a recognized and unrecognized flac (though i am trying too)?
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: spyrus on 10 October, 2015, 09:53:56 AM
Do you have the latest version of WMP Tag Plus, version 2.6?

I have the latest version
Before disabling the native FLAC tag support, did you remove all FLAC songs from the library first? (as instructed by the FAQ)

You're confusing me by mentioning different tags (Album/Composer/Artist). Which tags are missing in WMP and which tags do you still see in Mp3tag as being filled in?


I did not removed the files from library.
I now see some flac but after i update the album info from internet , i reopen WMP and it can not store all info.
About different tags, ignore the comment.
I am trying to see what common have the unknown flacs with the known flacs.
Should be the original rip method to flac?
Why i can see no difference in tagging between a recognized and unrecognized flac (though i am trying too)?

Edit: when i update the info from internet and close wmp some albums are being again reverted.
e.g. loose the Album Title, Art etc and the songs are back to the state before i update them in the online database

Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 10 October, 2015, 10:59:50 AM
I suggest that you still remove all FLAC songs from the library by following the FAQ (the sections Removing existing FLAC songs from the library and Adding FLAC songs back to the library).

If that doesn't help, please try running Refresh song tags: in WMP, go to Tools - Options - Plug-ins (press Ctrl+M if you don't see the Tools menu). Select the Background category, then select WMP Tag Plus and click Properties. In WMP Tag Plus settings, go to Tools, click Refresh song tags and follow the instructions.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: spyrus on 10 October, 2015, 12:49:06 PM
I suggest that you still remove all FLAC songs from the library by following the FAQ (the sections Removing existing FLAC songs from the library and Adding FLAC songs back to the library).

If that doesn't help, please try running Refresh song tags: in WMP, go to Tools - Options - Plug-ins (press Ctrl+M if you don't see the Tools menu). Select the Background category, then select WMP Tag Plus and click Properties. In WMP Tag Plus settings, go to Tools, click Refresh song tags and follow the instructions.


For the first suggestion:
1)All flac delete from library (about 9000 songs).
2)When i reopen WMP half of songs where still there
3)Re-adding to library seem to have no effect
4)When i use the Tag Plus i get the message 'Not enough storage is available to complete this operation'
but then it retries to add them, but i see no difference

P.S. too funny it is all messed up, i moved some songs in another folder, they can been seen by WMP (having Artwork and such) and also can be played
i will try to do it step by step with less files at a time

So, I uninstalled wmp and delete the files in appdata directory and now i adding step by step

No luck. all songs are present in the library but no artist/year/genre/album found.
Note: i have also installed WMP Plus 2.8 also.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 10 October, 2015, 01:59:40 PM
It sounds like your library has gotten corrupted, so you should probably reset it. First note that resetting the library will make you lose all current play counts, and possibly ratings too. Then, follow these steps:

- Reboot the PC.
- Press Win+R, type services.msc, and press Enter. In Services, find the Windows Media Player Network Sharing Service. If its status is Started, double-click the service and click Stop.
- Press Win+R, type %LOCALAPPDATA%\Microsoft, and press Enter. This folder will open up in Windows Explorer.
- In this folder, delete the Media Player folder. If you can't see the folder, then it's probably hidden. Set Explorer to show hidden files and folders, and to show protected system files.
- Start WMP, your library will have been reset and will be rebuilt. Check if the issue still occurs.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: spyrus on 11 October, 2015, 08:40:46 AM
It sounds like your library has gotten corrupted, so you should probably reset it. First note that resetting the library will make you lose all current play counts, and possibly ratings too. Then, follow these steps:

- Reboot the PC.
- Press Win+R, type services.msc, and press Enter. In Services, find the Windows Media Player Network Sharing Service. If its status is Started, double-click the service and click Stop.
- Press Win+R, type %LOCALAPPDATA%\Microsoft, and press Enter. This folder will open up in Windows Explorer.
- In this folder, delete the Media Player folder. If you can't see the folder, then it's probably hidden. Set Explorer to show hidden files and folders, and to show protected system files.
- Start WMP, your library will have been reset and will be rebuilt. Check if the issue still occurs.


Yes issue still there.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: spyrus on 11 October, 2015, 11:45:30 AM
It sounds like your library has gotten corrupted, so you should probably reset it. First note that resetting the library will make you lose all current play counts, and possibly ratings too. Then, follow these steps:

- Reboot the PC.
- Press Win+R, type services.msc, and press Enter. In Services, find the Windows Media Player Network Sharing Service. If its status is Started, double-click the service and click Stop.
- Press Win+R, type %LOCALAPPDATA%\Microsoft, and press Enter. This folder will open up in Windows Explorer.
- In this folder, delete the Media Player folder. If you can't see the folder, then it's probably hidden. Set Explorer to show hidden files and folders, and to show protected system files.
- Start WMP, your library will have been reset and will be rebuilt. Check if the issue still occurs.


Yes issue still there.


And unfortunately by reverting back the native flac support in windows with the registry file provided, had the effect on Groove Music app
not to play flac files
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 11 October, 2015, 04:36:20 PM
If even resetting the library doesn't help, then there isn't much left to try I'm afraid... Besides perhaps moving your music files to a different folder, or moving to a new Windows user account altogether.

Regarding the Groove Music issue, the registry files revert back the exact same changes that you manually made to the registry to disable the native FLAC tag support. So it much more likely was an unrelated change that caused the issue. If you created a System Restore point before disabling the FLAC support, you could use that to roll back again.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: lascetic on 13 October, 2015, 09:16:14 AM
Corrupted wmp library problems tend to resolve by disabling and re-enabling wmp. Instructions can be found here (http://www.meinstyn.com/wmp/how-to-disable-windows-media-player-in-windows-7-88-1-10.html).
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 13 October, 2015, 10:15:21 AM
lascetic, on what kind of proof is your info based? As far as I know, the only correct way to reset the library is to delete the Media Player folder in AppData, per my instructions above. Disabling/re-enabling WMP doesn't do this.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: lascetic on 13 October, 2015, 11:01:37 AM
lascetic, on what kind of proof is your info based? As far as I know, the only correct way to reset the library is to delete the Media Player folder in AppData, per my instructions above. Disabling/re-enabling WMP doesn't do this.


I once had a problem with wmp corrupted library and I tried the method which you proposed but the issue wouldn't resolve. Yours is a valid method and the first one one should try, and it has worked for me in the past, but not at that time. I think I followed the suggestion from this thread (http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-windows_programs/media-library-is-corrupted-on-windows-7/2afcac17-984b-48fe-98fa-451aa5c085e6) but also others I don't remember. I just remember I had to read a lot. However, technically it may be resolving some other issue that results in a corrupted library. This, I don't know, but it has worked for me in the past.

Another method that have worked for me before in another case was to remove the music library (Organize-> Manage libraries ->music library ->remove), restart wmp and add them back. Both methods have worked for me in the past for windows 7 and 8.1, when the first one failed.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: spyrus on 14 October, 2015, 05:25:45 AM
I did another try.
I had re-enabled already the native FLAC support
and import the flac few by few.

I have found that WMP had error with following two scenarios:
1)Corrupted header on FLAC (e.g. the message Encountered 'FLAC__STREAM_DECODER_SEARCH_FOR_FRAME_SYNC' is
shown on dbPowerAmp conversion of the flac to flac.
2)Some songs have question mark on their metadata song name which again causes problems

Now i have re-download or re-encode the problematic flac files and all works as expected.
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 14 October, 2015, 06:34:46 AM
You may want to pass that info to Microsoft via the Windows 10 feedback tool. Posting it just here probably won't be enough for them to notice
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: drisc32 on 22 November, 2015, 06:58:55 PM
Hi! I've been having an issue when trying to tag .aac (mpeg4-audio) files: i can't edit nothing on them, even via their "properties" tag in windows explorer
Also, i notice their card displays 0 bitrate. Mp3tag can't edit anything either; only EasyTag allows me to edit.
I tried the registry edit mentioned here (https://www.hydrogenaud.io/forums/index.php?showtopic=75123&st=650&p=893558&#entry893558) to no avail (i really hope i did not mess things more with this)

Any ideas why this behavior is happening? OS is Windows10
Edit: here is the explorer error box
Quote
(https://hydrogenaud.io/imgcache.php?id=e5321c7b5dfda938e7cd8f783d0b798e" rel="cached" data-warn="External image, click to view at original size" data-url="http://i.imgur.com/t3LqegO.jpg)
. File permissions are OK
Title: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 23 November, 2015, 11:58:49 AM
That's because an .aac file only contains the raw audio data and isn't taggable. You first need to multiplex (or 'mux') the AAC stream to a container format that provides tagging support, such as MPEG-4. This multiplexing can be done with the MP4Box (https://gpac.wp.mines-telecom.fr/mp4box/) tool. MP4Box only works via the command line, but there are also graphical front-ends like Yamb and My MP4Box GUI.

Now that I think about it, I really should remove .aac from the default list of file extensions supported by WMP Tag Plus. It doesn't make sense because of the above.
Title: Cannot Get WMP TagPlus To File m4a files Under Music in WMP 12
Post by: SteveT on 28 January, 2016, 10:17:34 PM
Hey there - newb to the forum, but I hope to learn some good stuff here!

Hopefully Ben is out there since I need some key help with WMP TagPlus.  For the life of me, I cannot get WMP 12 on my main computer to behave with TagPlus so that .m4a files are placed in the library under Music as opposed Other Media.  I have read many posts and am fairly familiar with the techniques used to get this to work, Such as:
- Plugin is definitely  V2.6 and enabled
- delete .m4a's from library, then restore deleted library items
- delete .m4a's from library, then drag and drop into WMP
- also tried "apply media information changes"
- uninstalled WMP12 and TagPlus, relocated my entire library, reinstalled both products and dragged my music files back in.
To no avail, the .m4a's always end up in Other Media

Some key information to mention: I have tested this on 3 computers and 2 of them work fine, but not the one I really need to.  There are two differences with the working computers and the non-working:
1. On the working ones, the TagPlus supported file extensions property page states there IS native support for .m4a's.  The non-working computer says No.  I'm not sure what is providing the native support and if its a factor?
2. On the non-working one, I once had another WMP plugin for FLAC support installed that has long been uninstalled.  I can't remember the name of it at all but I'm wondering if there's some conflict somewhere in the registry perhaps?

Needless to say I'm quite frustrated for not getting this working.  I'm hoping with a deeper dive I/we can find the conflict.
Problem computer is running Win7 Ultimate 32bit; WMP12 is running latest build. WMP TagPlus is V2.6 and enabled.

Thanks for any help you can lend,
Steve
Title: Re: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: SteveT on 29 January, 2016, 09:48:05 AM
I found the old plugin that was previously installed on the non-working computer and uninstalled - mentioned in (2) above.  Its this:
http://www.softpointer.com/WMPTagSupport.htm (http://www.softpointer.com/WMPTagSupport.htm)
Perhaps there's an old conflict with this and WMP TagPlus ?
Title: Re: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 29 January, 2016, 02:14:50 PM
It sounds like some third-party software has replaced or disabled the native .m4a tag support on the non-working system (dBpoweramp, for example, is known to do this). To manually restore the native tag support, copy/paste the text below into a .reg file and add that file to the registry. Remember to reboot afterwards. Does that help?

Code: [Select]
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\PropertySystem\PropertyHandlers\.m4a]
@="{f81b1b56-7613-4ee4-bc05-1fab5de5c07e}"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\PropertySystem\PropertyHandlers\.m4a]
@="{f81b1b56-7613-4ee4-bc05-1fab5de5c07e}"
Title: Re: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: SteveT on 29 January, 2016, 03:39:28 PM
Sweet!  That did it.  I do indeed have dBPoweramp installed for fast FLAC ripping.  Hopefully that will continue to behave but now I know the workaround and have replaced the key value.  FYI- they save the last known value in a key called: dBpowerampLAST

Thanks Tim for the quick reply - really appreciate it.
Title: Re: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Nokiaman on 17 July, 2016, 12:58:11 PM
Is it normal that WMP can't save the ratings into .FLAC files? I rate something and only WMP sees the rating and in properties dialog the stars are blank.
MP3/OGG work fine and preserve their ratings.
Title: Re: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 18 July, 2016, 09:40:35 AM
Judging by your previous post in the Windows Media Player Plus! thread, I assume that you're still using Windows 10? In that case, see Why am I experiencing issues with FLAC tags on Windows 10? in the WMP Tag Plus FAQ (http://bmproductions.fixnum.org/wiki/FAQ_(WMP_Tag_Plus)).
Title: Re: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Nokiaman on 18 July, 2016, 03:23:32 PM
Ah cheers. I had no clue this is known issue.
Title: Re: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 20 July, 2016, 10:29:22 AM
Announcement: the beta version of WMP Tag Plus 2.7 is now available for download here (http://bmproductions.fixnum.org/links/?linkid=9). This is a maintenance release with some bugfixes and minor improvements.

Changes:


As this is a beta, it’s possible that it still contains some bugs. Please let me know if you encounter any problems, so I can fix them for the final release. Thanks!
Title: Re: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 11 September, 2016, 03:45:06 PM
Announcement: WMP Tag Plus 2.7 has gone out of beta and the final version (http://bmproductions.fixnum.org/wmptagplus/) is now available for download.

Compared to the beta, the final version contains an additional fix for a memory leak when writing embedded album art to Ogg Vorbis files. See the Version History page (http://bmproductions.fixnum.org/wmptagplus/history.htm) for a detailed list of what's new and what has been fixed since version 2.6.
Title: Re: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: usikpa on 02 October, 2016, 03:46:55 PM
Sorry to ask this, but just could not find over the thread which version of WMP Tag Plus is the last one to support Windows XP. I tried both 2.6 and 2.7 and upon any attempt to EDIT tags of m4a files got a multiple of events id'ed 1002 and 1005, with the error
suggesting something was wrong with the property descriptions of C:\WINDOWS\system32\PROPSYS.dll  for "System.Photo.GainControl" (fmtid="{FA304789-00C7-4D80-904A-1E4DCC7265AA}" pid="100").  ???

WMP session got crashed, so did the audio file, that is now no longer parsed by the LAV audio splitter
Title: Re: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 03 October, 2016, 04:44:53 PM
The latest version of WMP Tag Plus should still work fine in WMP 11 on Windows XP.

What was the exact text of the error message that appeared? If WMP indeed crashed while WMP Tag Plus was saving tags, then that probably means that the file it was writing to is now corrupted. If you can still restore the original, non-corrupted file from your backups, could you send it to me so I can take a look?
Title: Re: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: usikpa on 14 October, 2016, 06:07:31 AM
Tim,

Sorry It took me a while, I sent everything you requested  via (email address removed by moderation)
Title: Re: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 14 October, 2016, 08:24:16 AM
Thanks, got it. But please remove the email address from your post here, because I don't want spambots to pick it up (you can use the Quick Edit button below your post).
Title: Re: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: marc2003 on 14 October, 2016, 08:42:17 AM
Us mere mortals (who aren't mods or developers) only get an hour to edit our posts. You'll have to get a mod to edit it now.
Title: Re: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 29 October, 2016, 03:20:51 PM
Announcement: WMP Tag Plus 2.8 (http://bmproductions.fixnum.org/wmptagplus/) is now available for download. This is a bugfix release that fixes a possible Windows Media Player hang that was introduced in the previous release, version 2.7. Updating is highly recommended.
Title: Re: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 02 January, 2017, 03:13:22 PM
This is just a heads-up that the tag support added by WMP Tag Plus is broken again in the latest Windows 10 insider builds. A fix for this is in the making and will probably be released sometime later this month.

Another thing that I have noticed in the newer insider builds is that FLAC tag changes made in WMP's library don't seem to get written to file anymore. This seems to happen regardless of whether WMP Tag Plus is installed, or whether the native FLAC tag support is enabled/disabled. So it looks like an issue on Microsoft's side. Can anyone else confirm this?
Title: Re: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 07 January, 2017, 03:31:46 PM
Announcement: WMP Tag Plus 2.9 (http://bmproductions.fixnum.org/wmptagplus/) is now available for download. This is a bugfix release that fixes broken tag support in newer versions of Windows 10. Updating is recommended, especially if you're running the Windows 10 Insider Preview builds.
Title: Re: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Whoknew on 18 March, 2017, 06:03:57 PM
I've successfully installed the plug-in to solve the .m4a files in "Other Media" library wmp issue. The plug-in worked on most of my .m4a files, but not all of them. While some songs encoded in AAC are now the "Music" library, .m4a files that use MPEG-DASH (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_Adaptive_Streaming_over_HTTP) still show up in the "Other Media" library even though they are encoded in AAC. Anything I can do to get these files in the "Music" library? I'm on a Windows 7 x64 machine with WMP 12. I've attached a MediaInfo txt file of a song with the issue.
Title: Re: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 19 March, 2017, 03:30:36 PM
The fix in WMP Tag Plus for .m4a files in Other media is only for files containing Apple Lossless (ALAC) encoded audio.

Does WMP recognize the playback length of these DASH-encoded files? And is it able to play them using the standard Media Foundation codecs in Windows 7?

I suspect that these files are not added to Other media because of the audio format (like with Apple Lossless), but rather because the container format itself (DASH) isn't being recognized.

If that's the case, you could demultiplex ('demux') the AAC stream first to a raw .aac file, and then multiplex ('mux') the .aac file again into a 'real' .m4a container. The resulting file should then appear in the Music library. Muxing/demuxing can be done with the MP4Box (https://gpac.wp.mines-telecom.fr/mp4box/) tool. MP4Box only works via the command line, but there are also graphical front-ends like Yamb and My MP4Box GUI.
Title: Re: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Whoknew on 19 March, 2017, 06:59:28 PM
After installation of the plug-in, multiple AAC encoded files that once showed up in the "Other Media" library now show up in the "Music" library, something else must be off with those files. I have the k-lite codec pack installed so I am not sure if WMP is able to play the files natively with the standard Media Foundation Codecs in W7. As "Length" isn't an available column header for the "Other Media" library in WMP, I am not sure if it can fully recognize the length of the files. WMP with K-lite does play the files correctly and I am able to seek through the songs and see the length of the songs when seeking.

I have used the ffmpeg command line tool previously, which sounds similar to the MP4BOX tool you are describing, ffmpeg may be able to demux and mux the files into a different container also. Either I way, I will look into what I have to do to 're-contain' a number of files at once as I have 100s of songs with this issue. Thank you for responding.
Title: Re: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: vishay188 on 19 March, 2017, 07:05:40 PM
The MPEG-DASH file issue may come from .m4a files ripped from online audio streaming services. To avoid the issue in the future, try obtaining your files from another source.
Title: Re: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 20 March, 2017, 01:34:59 PM
Right, WMP doesn't show the length in Other media, I forgot about that. But if you right-click the file in the library and select Properties, does WMP show a length/bit rate there? And if you go to the Content tab, do you see any of the file's tags there?
Title: Re: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Whoknew on 21 March, 2017, 09:53:22 PM
Sorry, I didn't think to look under properties. Length and Bit rate are recognized by WMP under properties for the MPEG-DASH .m4a files
Title: Re: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 22 March, 2017, 03:40:02 PM
And what about the tags on the Content tab of the same Properties dialog?
Title: Re: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Whoknew on 23 March, 2017, 09:39:15 PM
In the content tab of properties, only title is populated. Windows explorer (Details pane) isn't able to edit the tags without throwing an error, however, I can't get it to edit m4a files that are in the music library either.
Title: Re: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 24 March, 2017, 03:58:59 PM
Could you upload one of the DASH-encoded files so I can take a look? You can use something like MediaFire and send me the link by PM. Thanks!
Title: Re: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Whoknew on 27 March, 2017, 02:00:38 AM
Thank you so much for looking into this, most people wouldn't give it the time of day. Upload:
https://www.mediafire.com/?1ip67qny3jngs8l (https://www.mediafire.com/?1ip67qny3jngs8l)
Title: Re: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 31 March, 2017, 02:52:21 PM
Thank you for uploading the file. I've taken a look, and as I already suspected, the DASH file format isn't recognized by Windows Media Foundation. WMP uses Media Foundation so it doesn't recognize the format either.

In more detail, Media Foundation returns error code 0xC00D36C4 (MF_E_UNSUPPORTED_BYTESTREAM_TYPE) when trying to open such a file. It's not able to read any of the file's tags either - if such tags are even supported by the format, which I doubt. Playback of the file also doesn't work without installation of third-party codecs. The only info that can be read is the playback length, but I assume that Media Foundation looks at the AAC stream for this.

While it's theoretically possible to force these files to go into Music instead of Other media, I don't think there's much point. Even with these files in the Music library, there still wouldn't be any way to have read/write support for tags. So I still think it would be better to just demux/mux the file into an actual .m4a container.
Title: Re: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Whoknew on 02 April, 2017, 12:47:19 PM
Okay, thanks for looking into it.
Title: Re: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Hitesh on 06 November, 2017, 05:51:10 PM
@tim de baets
Can you add support for opus?
Title: Re: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 07 November, 2017, 03:14:17 PM
There are no plans yet to add support for the Opus format. It might be added in the future though.
Title: Re: WMP Tag Plus - MPEG4, Vorbis and FLAC metadata support for WMP
Post by: Tim De Baets on 06 December, 2017, 03:03:50 PM
Announcement: in recent Windows 10 Insider Preview builds, WMP Tag Plus causes WMP to fail on startup with a "Windows Media Player is not installed properly and must be reinstalled" error message. This is due to a bug in a DLL file that is shared between my WMP Tag Plus and Windows Media Player Plus! plug-ins.

To get this shared DLL file fixed, you will need to install the beta version of Windows Media Player Plus! 2.10 (announced here (https://hydrogenaud.io/index.php/topic,80263.msg948979.html#msg948979)). If you don't need Windows Media Player Plus!, you can just uninstall it again afterwards (the updated DLL will remain on your system). For now, no new version of WMP Tag Plus will be released, but the updated DLL will eventually be part of a future release.