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Title: RIAA EQ comparation between Audacity EQ (FIR) w/ RIAA preset and 2nd o
Post by: Juha on 2009-08-26 10:39:31
Audacity 1.2.6

Normalization and Amplification done using Audacity features.

24-bit/48kHz (wma) samples:

1 - no RIAA - [attachment=5340:1.wma]
2 - Audacity EQ w/ RIAA preset - [attachment=5341:2.wma]
3 - Audacity EQ w/ RIAA preset + Normalization (< -3.0 dB) - [attachment=5342:3.wma]
4 - Audacity EQ w/ RIAA preset + Amplifying (< -0.0 dB) - [attachment=5343:4.wma]
5 - IIR filter (< -1.0 dB) - [attachment=5344:5.wma]
6 - IIR filter (< -3.0 dB) - [attachment=5345:6.wma]

Examples/instructions to make IIR type RIAA EQ implementation can be found @ http://jiiteepee.fortunecity.com/riaafilter/index.html (http://jiiteepee.fortunecity.com/riaafilter/index.html)


Juha
Title: RIAA EQ comparation between Audacity EQ (FIR) w/ RIAA preset and 2nd o
Post by: Paul Sanders on 2012-12-28 15:29:46
Meanwhile, 3 years later, in a galaxy far, far away:

The Audacity samples sound wrong to me - too much treble and not enough bass.  I have done some experiments of my own which support this.  Maybe this is fixed in Audacity 2.x

How did you calculate your IIR filter parameters please?
Title: RIAA EQ comparation between Audacity EQ (FIR) w/ RIAA preset and 2nd o
Post by: Juha on 2013-09-08 18:34:14
Meanwhile, 3 years later, in a galaxy far, far away:

The Audacity samples sound wrong to me - too much treble and not enough bass.  I have done some experiments of my own which support this.  Maybe this is fixed in Audacity 2.x

How did you calculate your IIR filter parameters please?



I have not been here for long so haven't seen this query.

IIR filter coefficients came from Robert Orban http://www.dsprelated.com/showmessage/73300/3.php (http://www.dsprelated.com/showmessage/73300/3.php) and Scott Wurcer.

My new RIAA pages are here - http://jiiteepee.tripod.com/riaa.html (http://jiiteepee.tripod.com/riaa.html)


Juha
Title: RIAA EQ comparation between Audacity EQ (FIR) w/ RIAA preset and 2nd o
Post by: Paul Sanders on 2013-09-09 15:35:52
OK, thank you.
Title: RIAA EQ comparation between Audacity EQ (FIR) w/ RIAA preset and 2nd o
Post by: Juha on 2014-04-09 22:57:57
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Maybe this is fixed in Audacity 2.x


Yes, they have improved the preset in 2.x.

Here are new files for my comparison (All recorded using ESI DuaFire and 24/44.1 (files 1-3 through fixed flat phono input, 4 through line input)):

[attachment=7856:01-01-Fl...410_0041.mp3]

[attachment=7857:02-02-ES...410_0041.mp3]

[attachment=7858:03-03-Fl...410_0041.mp3]

[attachment=7859:04-04-Pr...410_0041.mp3]

Title: RIAA EQ comparation between Audacity EQ (FIR) w/ RIAA preset and 2nd o
Post by: Juha on 2014-04-13 19:43:47
Here's the final comparison:

[attachment=7860:01_CD_rip.mp3]

[attachment=7861:03_2nd_o..._IIR_VST.mp3]

[attachment=7862:04_FIR_E...Audacity.mp3]

[attachment=7863:05_TerraTec_iVinyl.mp3]

Steep HP @20Hz was used for all 4 samples.

Title: RIAA EQ comparation between Audacity EQ (FIR) w/ RIAA preset and 2nd o
Post by: Juha on 2015-03-01 10:07:41
Quote
Maybe this is fixed in Audacity 2.x
  Yes, they have improved the preset in 2.x.  Here are new files for my comparison (All recorded using ESI DuaFire and 24/44.1 (files 1-3 through fixed flat phono input, 4 through line input)):  [attachment=7856:01-01-Fl...410_0041.mp3]  [attachment=7857:02-02-ES...410_0041.mp3]  [attachment=7858:03-03-Fl...410_0041.mp3]  [attachment=7859:04-04-Pr...410_0041.mp3]


Additionally one file for comparisons, which is done using convolution w/ RIAA impulse response data (source file is the same as for the others).

[attachment=8194:05-05-Fl...315_1148.mp3]




Title: RIAA EQ comparation between Audacity EQ (FIR) w/ RIAA preset and 2nd o
Post by: Juha on 2015-03-03 21:08:47
Forgot to link the IR file(s) (http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/digital-line-level/268276-what-about-digital-riaa-8.html#post4195482) used in that sample file #05-05
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