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Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: Squeller on 2006-07-12 09:14:08
foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta version

http://www.foobar2000.org/beta/index.html (http://www.foobar2000.org/beta/index.html)

Change log (http://www.foobar2000.org/changelog.html)

Please submit your bug reports to the support forum (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showforum=29), one thread per issue.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: Anas on 2006-07-12 09:19:46
My Anti Virus App (AntiVir XP) reports this as a Trojan!

EDIT: Translated this means something like: On your computer a Virus or an unwanted Program has been found!
What should happen to the file?
(filepath)
Is the Trojan TR/Drop.Zlob.FK.2.A
etc...
(http://unicron.un.funpic.de/foobarvirus.png)
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: Mangix on 2006-07-12 09:32:18
http://www.avira.com/en/threats/section/fu...lob.fk.2.a.html (http://www.avira.com/en/threats/section/fulldetails/id_vir/2138/tr_drop.zlob.fk.2.a.html)

it's most likely a false positive since the beta doesn't seem to do that stuff.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: Anas on 2006-07-12 09:39:08
Yep, it's a false positive. I installed it and checked for the files and registry keys and none of them were present.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: Squeller on 2006-07-12 09:47:39
[rant deleted, let's discuss fb2k]

Thanks for the customizable properties dialog, I really like it. Also the RG scanner quiet mode.

What is the command "random encounter" about?
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: kalmark on 2006-07-12 10:47:37
You can also check out the updated changelog (http://www.foobar2000.org/changelog.html).
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: foosion on 2006-07-12 11:05:55
What is the command "random encounter" about?
This command is from foo_random. It allows you to see a sample of what a randomized entry can resolve to. It's a bit of an easteregg/hidden feature.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: ladiko on 2006-07-12 12:27:46
i thinks its a problem with nsis, cause the installer and the uninstall.exe will be suspected. foobar itself not. maybe used a new version of nsis? or avira did a mistake with there virus definition. i've send in the uninstaller.exe to avira and also a link to the installer of foobar. let's look what happens :-)
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: Rasqual on 2006-07-12 13:25:28
Just my opinion about the new properties box:
The one-pane layout was interesting because file information (in particular, the file path!) was available readily. The new box forces to click on the tab control for this... On the other hand, I am rather satisfied with the grid behavior when it starts editing after a text field is clicked.

So, mixed feelings...
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: mil3s on 2006-07-12 13:34:54
The new file properties dialog is awesome. Just some minor cosmetic changes would make it perfect.
* The tabs current margin to the border is 0. Would look better with the same margins as in the Display Settings dialog. (6px on the sides and 7px at the top)
* The resize gripper at the bottom right isn't really needed imo, and it would look better without it. Then the buttons could be aligned properly. If you need to resize the window you can always grab the borders.

I also see the developers are in progress of fixing proper capitalization in the menus and stuff. Good job, keep it up.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: david_dl on 2006-07-12 13:52:46
I too like the new Properties dialog, however it would be handy to have an OK (Apply+Close) button, like in a standard windows properties dialog.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: PonasX on 2006-07-12 13:57:20
For me was better old delete ... Maybe can turn off recycle bin confirmation ?
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: Matyas on 2006-07-12 13:58:26
Anas! Drop your antivir, and get something worthy. Nod32 perhaps?

On a more serious note, it is really gr8 to see constant improvement in fb2k.
The changelog is very promising, i especially like the " Various progress dialogs no longer block UI".

However, I am still waiting for an option to be introduced that would limit which tags of the file/s are actually kept/updated (ID3V1/ID3V2).
There are cases when for example the ID3V2 Genre is missing in ID3V1 and thus fb2k clears it in ID3V1. What about keeping it? Or offering an alternative, for example 'Other'?
'Proper Case' together with exception for tagging would also be nice...

Otherwise just thank you.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: boombaard on 2006-07-12 14:02:45
also, some of the standard tags used by something like monkey's audio or flac (ie. <CUE_EMBEDDED>, <MD5>, VERSION, and FLAGS) don't show up properly yet (not yet included in the 'known' list of fields i suppose.. i'd appreciate it if you fixed that

anyway, the oldstyle implementation of the general info (encoder/bitrate/RG values/the works) was a bit more space efficient imo.. and since you can't edit anything there anyway, why bother putting that in a different box from before, when it was just to the right of the actual tags?
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: PonasX on 2006-07-12 14:04:14
Sorry, I found Confirmation in Recycle
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: The Seeker on 2006-07-12 14:09:38
"Better integration of information lookup (freedb etc) components with Audio CD ripping UI."

I'm assuming you still need the separate foo_freedb2 component as this option is greyed out.

Edit: After reading the changelog entry again it's pretty self explanatory I noticed 

Edit: After adding the foo_freedb2 component, the information lookup is still greyed out in the ripping UI.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: AndyMutz on 2006-07-12 14:56:14
i for one totally dislike the new properties dialog, i liked the old style much more.

-andy-
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: Rasqual on 2006-07-12 15:08:10
I too like the new Properties dialog, however it would be handy to have an OK (Apply+Close) button, like in a standard windows properties dialog.


Standard layout would be [OK] [Cancel] [Apply] with Apply being originally grayed if applicable.
Reload on the extreme left.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: bjackson128 on 2006-07-12 15:24:52
Edit: After adding the foo_freedb2 component, the information lookup is still greyed out in the ripping UI.

Same here. Anyone know how to set it up correctly?
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: m0rbidini on 2006-07-12 15:42:38
Thanks to the developers for the Speex support.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: kjoonlee on 2006-07-12 15:52:32
Thanks to the developers for the Speex support.

Yes, thank you, for the Speex support.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: Demetris on 2006-07-12 16:56:13
Three issues:
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: jarsonic on 2006-07-12 16:59:27
Edit: After adding the foo_freedb2 component, the information lookup is still greyed out in the ripping UI.

Same here. Anyone know how to set it up correctly?




Apparently a new build of foo_freedb2 is required.  Stay tuned.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: JEdwardP on 2006-07-12 17:58:31
Yes, thank you, for the Speex support.


I echo that. Please accept my sincere thanks for adding Speex support! I can now finally use the 0.9x series. I'm sure it would've played all my music perfectly, but I would've missed my audiobooks too much to upgrade.

Jim
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: yandexx on 2006-07-12 18:50:03
Just while first bug reports come here, let's please not turn this thread into bugs-reporting one. That's what Support forum is for. Remember how did this end for 0.9.2 beta thread?
Myself I find new Properties dialog to be nice. Except for buttons, which need to be changed, yes.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: Frank Bicking on 2006-07-12 19:16:21
Just while first bug reports come here, let's please not turn this thread into bugs-reporting one.

I have just asked about the preferred way of reportings bugs at the IRC channel:

Quote
you can flood them on irc while i'm watching
other than that, one thread per issue


Some highlights of the new properties dialog:

- Inline editing.
- The user can define which fields are always displayed in the advanced preferences.
- You can set up multi-line fields, like breaks are added by pressing Ctrl+Enter.
- "Edit per-track values" is accessible by double-clicking or "edit" command (Screenshot (http://www.audiohq.de/articles/foobar/properties/metadata_edit_individual_values.png)).
- "Fill values from filename" dialog with preview area.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: Squeller on 2006-07-12 19:39:59
- "Edit per-track values" is accessible by double-clicking or "edit" command (Screenshot (http://www.audiohq.de/articles/foobar/properties/metadata_edit_individual_values.png)).

This is really good news, it allows quick changing of tags of multiple files.

...and I just realized there are some copy/paste possibilities via context menu (also with multiple tags highlighted)... haven't tested yet... looks like a good way copying tags between tracks.

I have to test a bit more. If I have a track which has an additional tag "test" and then select all (strg+a works) and copy (or copy w/names), then paste it into another track which hasn't the tag, the tag will not appear.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: fabiospark on 2006-07-12 20:27:29
What does it mean: "Changed Media Library new item tracking behaviors", if I may ask?

Thanks.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: neoufo51 on 2006-07-13 02:32:06
i for one totally dislike the new properties dialog, i liked the old style much more.

-andy-

The only thing I dont like about it is that I'd prefer to see all the information on 1 page rather than have to switch tabs.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: musosticky on 2006-07-13 03:36:49
Personally I like the new properties box as it sets it apart from the custom info box plugin which is essentially a souped-up version of the old properties box.

This way between Properties, Masstagger, and The Custom Info Box I should have everything i could ever need to edit my tags
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: GeSomeone on 2006-07-13 11:25:21
The tag editting in the Properties dialog is good.

But, because I miss the Replaygain value on the first page, I tried to add "Track Gain=replaygain_track_gain" to the dialog properties, just to show this value without going to the 2nd tab all the time. But it didn't work

edit: clarify
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: Melomane on 2006-07-13 13:13:48
i like the new rip behavoir: auto replaygain scan and auto add to media library!!!
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: Lyx on 2006-07-13 13:49:34
First, i'd like to say that the redesigned fileproperties-dialog is great :) Even with just looking at it for 20secs its amazing how much tought was put into it.

One thing which i noticed is a minor inconsistency in the naming-scheme of the tags: There is "Album Artist" and "Track Title" and "Album Title"....... but "Artist Name"..... which if it would be consistent with the rest should instead be "Track Artist".

I noticed the different naming for the masstagger ("Manage Scripts") and euphorically clicked on it - expecting that maybe it would now be possible to arrange my scripts in groups (which in the contextmenu would then cascade to submenus)....... well, maybe it will be implemented in a future version.

- Lyx

edit: after thinking about it, i agree with calling it "Artist Name" (because ARTIST can refer to the album-artist (with non-VA-albums) and the track artist)
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: mil3s on 2006-07-13 14:39:53
I'd appreciate if a new Audio CD feature were added. For example if I open an Audio CD and then change the CD and try to play the tracks I get error messages. It would be better to get a dialog asking if I want to reload the playlist with the new tracks, and clean out the old.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: Squeller on 2006-07-13 14:47:20
Is there a way to let fb2k rip single files?

EDIT: I see, simply convert the playlist entries...
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: JoyO on 2006-07-13 14:48:04
At the beginning i was sceptic abut new properties dialog. But now, after a few  times i used it i think this is really great feature. Multi file tag editing now is a pleasure

I want also to inform that new quiet mode in RG pops-up old-style window if there was any error which i found very good solution. Only minor problem with quiet scan that it cant automatically delete RG tags (and thus saving album info if we choose to scan per file track gain). IMO good solution would be to include qiet mode as additional command in context menu.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: Jubei on 2006-07-13 15:06:28
I noticed Media Library rescan speed in now FAST. Can anyone confirm this?
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: Squeller on 2006-07-13 15:13:43
I noticed Media Library rescan speed in now FAST. Can anyone confirm this?

Yes. Seems like it does no more touch any single file now.. Try it, do a rescan...
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: foosion on 2006-07-13 16:13:24
I noticed Media Library rescan speed in now FAST. Can anyone confirm this?

Yes. Seems like it does no more touch any single file now.. Try it, do a rescan...
According to Peter, the only change there is that rescanning the media library does no longer block access to the user interface.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: Jubei on 2006-07-13 16:30:47
The good: much faster media library rescan. I like the properties dialog too.

The bad: playcount unofficial is not working!!
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: Squeller on 2006-07-13 17:53:10
According to Peter, the only change there is that rescanning the media library does no longer block access to the user interface.
He must have changed something. Before, I scanned the whole library (5700 tracks) and it took always about 5 Minutes on my notebook at any scan, fb2k seemed to touch any media file. Now, with no changes to the media files, it just takes, maybe, 15 seconds or even less.

I thought it's the result of (changelog): "Changed Media Library new item tracking behaviors"

What is this change log entry about? How does the media library scan work now?
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: yandexx on 2006-07-13 20:18:12
According to Peter, the only change there is that rescanning the media library does no longer block access to the user interface.
He must have changed something. Before, I scanned the whole library (5700 tracks) and it took always about 5 Minutes on my notebook at any scan, fb2k seemed to touch any media file. Now, with no changes to the media files, it just takes, maybe, 15 seconds or even less.

Yeah, and now it also removes deleted CUEs from library.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: rutra80 on 2006-07-13 21:15:25
Maybe it's a wrong thread for saying thanks, but I do - great work devs, I like new/changed features of this version a lot.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: tool++ on 2006-07-13 22:47:13
The good: much faster media library rescan. I like the properties dialog too.

The bad: playcount unofficial is not working!!


I also found that, when using it.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: Gow on 2006-07-13 22:48:52
Awesome updates and changes.  Just one quirk I noticed on a custom tag.

When I try to add the new field EACLOG, which will contain the log EAC puts out with the "\" changed to "_".
When I try to paste the complete data it makes the ding sound and tosses out the data leaving the field blank.
However, a workaround that I found out is I paste the first two lines, okay the field, than edit it, I can paste in the entire data.

Sample Complete Data.  The first two lines were used to add the field than I editted the field and added the complete data with no complaints from the program.

Code: [Select]
EAC extraction logfile from 24. February 2004, 21:01 for CD
Lacuna Coil / Unleashed memories

Used drive  : PLEXTOR DVDR   PX-708A   Adapter: 1  ID: 0
Read mode   : Secure with NO C2, accurate stream, disable cache
Read offset correction : 30
Overread into Lead-In and Lead-Out : No

Used output format : D:\Program Files\REACT\REACT.exe   (User Defined Encoder)

Other options      :
    Fill up missing offset samples with silence : Yes
    Delete leading and trailing silent blocks : No
    Installed external ASPI interface

Range status and errors
Selected range
     Filename C:_my ape_CDImage.wav

     Peak level 75.4 %
     Range quality 100.0 %
     CRC 637414C6
     Copy OK

No errors occured

End of status report


Keep up the awesome job on foobar2000!!
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: pstrg on 2006-07-14 01:10:50
At the beginning i was sceptic abut new properties dialog. But now, after a few  times i used it i think this is really great feature. Multi file tag editing now is a pleasure

I find the new Properties dialog quite improved, but would like to see:
Opening
- Instead of always opening in the General Properties tab, I would like to be able to choose opening in the Metadata tab instead (or perhaps to remember last tab opened).
Standard tags
- Metadata tab shows thirteen standard tags; would like to be able to edit those
(for my use, I'd remove Album Artist and Performer and add Band and Conductor).
Without this feature, tags one always use must be added manually each time - many more clicks...
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: Frank Bicking on 2006-07-14 01:20:41
Quote
Metadata tab shows thirteen standard tags; would like to be able to edit those

You are.

Please have a look at Preferences | Advanced | Display | Properties dialog.

You can define:

- which fields are displayed including their captions
- fields that can have multiple values, separated by a semicolon
- fields for which an edit field with multiple lines is shown
- the format of the dialog's title
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: pstrg on 2006-07-14 03:11:50
Quote
Metadata tab shows thirteen standard tags; would like to be able to edit those

You are.

Please have a look at Preferences | Advanced | Display | Properties dialog.

Indeed.
Now, what happened to Right click | Tagging | Edit tags in 0.9.3?
How to edit a number of files using functions?
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: Frank Bicking on 2006-07-14 03:22:11
Now, what happened to Right click | Tagging | Edit tags in 0.9.3?

It has been renamed to Tagging | Manage Scripts. You really need to become more inquisitive. After installing a new foobar2000 version, isn't browsing through all menus and preferences looking for new entries the first thing you do? Someone is probably going to quote this statement asking what we have forums for, but it's not like you couldn't have found the answers to your two questions on your own.

By the way, this is pure speculation, but I think we're going to see some more masstagger functions being integrated into the properties dialog.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: pstrg on 2006-07-14 03:51:53
Now, what happened to Right click | Tagging | Edit tags in 0.9.3?

It has been renamed to Tagging | Manage Scripts. You really need to become more inquisitive. After installing a new foobar2000 version, isn't browsing through all menus and preferences looking for new entries the first thing you do? Someone is probably going to quote this statement asking what we have forums for, but it's not like you couldn't have found the answers to your two questions on your own.

By the way, this is pure speculation, but I think we're going to see some more masstagger functions being integrated into the properties dialog.

You're certainly right, I could have found both answers by myself digging a bit more.
However consider that users with less experience somehow get stumbled at  times and a helping attitude like yours do make the difference.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: db1989 on 2006-07-14 08:36:32
"Instead of always opening in the General Properties tab, I would like to be able to choose opening in the Metadata tab"

Doesn't it?
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: ARiel G. on 2006-07-14 09:12:23
* It's not a bug but playcount unofficial dosen't work.
I have got a warning message: "metadb_handle leaks: 1 objects" when i close foobar, thout that is related to unofficial playcount.

* Also, there another message:
Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Library
Runtime Error!
Program:..foobar200.exe
R6025
- pure virtual function call
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: PonasX on 2006-07-14 09:26:41
In Foobar2000 0.9.2 was File Properties more comfort to me, because File Path isn't on top ... Maybe is the way to HotKey function "Copy File Path" ? For example I want send song to friend on skype, I select song, press some buttens (for example ctrl+c) and File Path is in Clipboard ...

Sorry for bad English 
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: JoyO on 2006-07-14 10:15:10
You can use foo_run to send file path to some app.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: PonasX on 2006-07-14 10:23:43
Thanks, i will try it
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: Squeller on 2006-07-14 12:12:36
Properties/General properties/

is not optimal, as the dialog does not display the file name only. It shows full path+filename, but on long paths in general the filename is clipped...

Please add a "file name" field.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: brendo on 2006-07-14 13:06:56
Any news on the updated freedb2 component?
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: PonasX on 2006-07-14 13:18:52
Quote
Properties/General properties/

is not optimal, as the dialog does not display the file name only. It shows full path+filename, but on long paths in general the filename is clipped...

Please add a "file name" field.


I want do this -> select song, press ctrl+c and I have "C:\Music\track 01.mp3" ....
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: foosion on 2006-07-14 13:54:18
According to Peter, the only change there is that rescanning the media library does no longer block access to the user interface.
He must have changed something. Before, I scanned the whole library (5700 tracks) and it took always about 5 Minutes on my notebook at any scan, fb2k seemed to touch any media file. Now, with no changes to the media files, it just takes, maybe, 15 seconds or even less.
Are you sure the scan ran to completion and you didn't accidentally abort it by closing the preferences window?
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: JoyO on 2006-07-14 14:09:27
PonasX: preferences>display>title formatting>copy command>and paste %path%>save all

or use foo_run as i already said.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: Jubei on 2006-07-14 14:10:13
* It's not a bug but playcount unofficial dosen't work.
I have got a warning message: "metadb_handle leaks: 1 objects" when i close foobar, thout that is related to unofficial playcount.

* Also, there another message:
Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Library
Runtime Error!
Program:..foobar200.exe
R6025
- pure virtual function call


Which is exactly the same error message I have when I have the report error and debug information box checked (within the Play Count menu options page inder Preferences).
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: Squeller on 2006-07-14 14:19:14
I want do this -> select song, press ctrl+c and I have "C:\Music\track 01.mp3" ....

Use the "copy name" command. string is configurable in title formatting preferences, "copy command"...

Are you sure the scan ran to completion and you didn't accidentally abort it by closing the preferences window?

Foosion, I'm very sure I didn't abort the rescan. I didn't have the preferences open btw. But I don't understand it yet. I did a rescan on a test library here at another machine. Did take > 3 Minutes (3000 files on a network drive). I saw every track ran through the progress window. I did a rescan again, and it took less than 30 seconds. Some hours later, it's again doing the slow and complete scan once. I'm prettey sure nothing changed on the network drive. Next scans are now quick again, also after a restart of fb2k.

I'd be happy if Peter could provide some technical details.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: PonasX on 2006-07-14 14:24:26
what if "copy command" is now used ?

and I don't know how to insert COPY %path% command to foo_run
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: JoyO on 2006-07-14 14:31:29
Well, foo_run wont copy path to clipboard but wil pass it as selected argument to chosen app (skype etc.). You can also find some app that takes argument and puts it into clipboard.

Easier solution is copy command. Whats the problem with it?
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: Squeller on 2006-07-14 14:32:20
what if "copy command" is now used ?
"Is now used" by you? Then you are happy? I don't understand your question. The copy command is the best and versatile solution, as it's configurable with tagz.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: foosion on 2006-07-14 14:41:48
Squeller: Let me recap: an immediate rescan (of files on a network drive) is fast, but a later rescan might be slow. I think the file caching mechanisms in Windows might be a logical explanation.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: JoyO on 2006-07-14 14:48:49
I also confirm that rescan is MUCH faster. Seconds compared to minutes in earlier versions. And i'm sure as i launched 0.92 just to test this.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: skelly831 on 2006-07-14 14:50:27
Me too, Rescan Media Library took about 12 seconds. I have about 4500 files.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: Infernus on 2006-07-14 14:56:23
cannot confirm. rescanning takes about 5-10 minutes @ ~30000 locally stored files/cued tracks.........as long as fb0.92
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: LordWarlock on 2006-07-14 15:30:35
Can confirm the fast library rescan. The first scan after instalation was as slow as with 0.92, but now it takes only 10 s (~5700 files on local drive).
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: madorangepanda on 2006-07-14 15:32:47
Rescanning is definitely faster for me. It can be a matter of seconds for a library of around 6000 files if I run a few rescans in a row.
I also removed my database and restarted my pc and then did a fresh scan of my library and that also seems to be faster than in 0.9.2 I can do some testing with more accurate timing if anybody wishes.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: pstrg on 2006-07-14 15:43:52
Definitely, in fact surprisingly faster.
For ~12000 files (mp3, ogg) located on a remote server (100 Mb/s LAN):
0.9.2    - 15 min
0.9.3b1 -  3 min
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: Squeller on 2006-07-14 15:55:38
It's definitely not about file caching. On my pc at home now (which I just booted), it took 25 seconds for almost 6000 tracks. Hmm. But somehow the mechanism seemed to skip some major directories... We need Peter

EDIT: Bad news, it does not seem to work, please confirm and maybe report it to the support group

What I did: copied an mp3 file to a media libraries folder. Tagged %title% with "teststring" with winamp (id3v1). Started foobar, did the complete media lib. scan. Did a database search for "teststring" with foo_uie_quicksearch. No match!


I'm a complete fool, I did not properly tag it, my bad, sorry  ... Anything works nice and quick
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: JoyO on 2006-07-14 16:03:10
I my case it works, added, rescanned, played ne songs,  deleted and rescanned again and everything worked fine.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: Duble0Syx on 2006-07-14 16:06:53
The rescanning the media library issue must be with mp3/ogg only.  When I rescan roughly 45000 flac and wavpack files it takes just as long as it did in 0.9.2.  Quite happy I can now use the player when rescanning.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: PredUK on 2006-07-14 17:13:24
How's the support for 0.9.2 plugins? I want to upgrade but don't want to lose functionality.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: yandexx on 2006-07-14 17:40:09
How's the support for 0.9.2 plugins? I want to upgrade but don't want to lose functionality.

Don't be afraid, there's no problem.
Unless you're using unofficial foo_playcount, which seems to have problems (see previous posts).
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: PredUK on 2006-07-14 17:53:32
If the version I have is unofficial, I can live without it.  Thanks.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: foosion on 2006-07-14 17:57:08
The rescanning the media library issue must be with mp3/ogg only.  When I rescan roughly 45000 flac and wavpack files it takes just as long as it did in 0.9.2.  Quite happy I can now use the player when rescanning.
Peter has confirmed that there have been changes in MP3 subsong detection which can affect the scanning speed.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: Squeller on 2006-07-14 19:45:59
Foosion, I have a suggestion for the properties window, I hope this is possible. Very often (this is especially in classical music) we have to add the same values, for example for the composer, conductor or ensemble.

It would be helpful if the field values had a history dropdown to the right with the same options ("wipe history", "delete history item") as in the rest of foobar.

Ideally we could userdefine in the advanced options, which fields get a dropdown (and all others don't).
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: pstrg on 2006-07-14 20:03:40
Foosion, I have a suggestion for the properties window, I hope this is possible. Very often (this is especially in classical music) we have to add the same values, for example for the composer, conductor or ensemble.

It would be helpful if the field values had a history dropdown to the right with the same options ("wipe history", "delete history item") as in the rest of foobar.

Ideally we could userdefine in the advanced options, which fields get a dropdown (and all others don't).

That would be an extremely welcome improvement - a great timesaver feature.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: pepoluan on 2006-07-14 20:16:07
I transcoded some files into Vorbis to play in my iPaq. There were 4 transcoding sessions open (i.e. those progress bar dialog boxes) as I was transcoding from 4 different albums to 4 different directories (1 dir per album).

With older foobar (0.9.2) it worked. With latest foobar, none of the transcoded file can play in my iPaq.

Of course I found this out in my way to office, and since I have no foobar here on my office PC I can't test. I can't even say that it's foobar's fault. Can someone else check this out too?
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: Lyx on 2006-07-14 20:40:13

It would be helpful if the field values had a history dropdown to the right with the same options ("wipe history", "delete history item") as in the rest of foobar.

Ideally we could userdefine in the advanced options, which fields get a dropdown (and all others don't).

That would be an extremely welcome improvement - a great timesaver feature.

A full cross-session history may not even be necessary - just keep the history in RAM only, so that it gets dropped when closing foobar. Should keep the history clean, makes a "wipe-history"-button unnecessary and should be enough to suffice in most cases.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: Squeller on 2006-07-14 20:52:13
A full cross-session history may not even be necessary - just keep the history in RAM only, so that it gets dropped when closing foobar. Should keep the history clean, makes a "wipe-history"-button unnecessary and should be enough to suffice in most cases.

IBTD. Especially in classical music we have permanently used stereotype values, where cross-session would be a benefit: "Herbert von Karajan", "Günther Wand", "Chicago Symphony Orchestra", "Berliner Philharmoniker"... Or a greatly appreciated history field, which anybody was used to, should be in the genre tag...

In music other than classical, I don't see that much need at all. There may not even be need for session only history.

I think: full implementation or no implementation.

On the other side I see the problem of messing the cfg file with typed history entries... Maybe one day we'll have a way to delete all histories and mru at once...
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: musosticky on 2006-07-14 21:47:43
I've also found a bug with foo_lyrics. Causes a huge crash and gets in the way of my camp kareoke attempts
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: Demetris on 2006-07-14 22:14:33
I transcoded some files into Vorbis to play in my iPaq. There were 4 transcoding sessions open (i.e. those progress bar dialog boxes) as I was transcoding from 4 different albums to 4 different directories (1 dir per album).

With older foobar (0.9.2) it worked. With latest foobar, none of the transcoded file can play in my iPaq.

Of course I found this out in my way to office, and since I have no foobar here on my office PC I can't test. I can't even say that it's foobar's fault. Can someone else check this out too?

Cannot replicate here, transcoding from LAME mp3s. (4 CDs, 4 dirs, 4 transcoding sessions running simultaneously). The ogg files play fine.

Encoder: BS; Lancer(SSE2) [20060616] (based on aoTuV b4b [20051117])
Parameters: -Q -q7.000000 -p4 - -o %d
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: ExUser on 2006-07-15 01:23:30
The new Properties dialog is great. Now all we need is a Columns UI panel version of it.

Thanks again for the great app, guys!
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: Generalverdacht on 2006-07-15 01:41:53
just a little question: i can upgrade my 0.92 stable to beta .9.3 without loosing my config, can´t i?
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: DustMagnet on 2006-07-15 05:38:10
just a little question: i can upgrade my 0.92 stable to beta .9.3 without loosing my config, can´t i?


Yes.

However, it's always wise to make a backup before upgrading. I make a copy of my foobar folder so that restoring the old version is just a matter of renaming folders.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: Yotsuya on 2006-07-15 07:14:31
Since the properties dialog is being overhauled I'd like to throw in a suggestion. I would like to see the "MP3 Tag Types" dialog integrated into the file properties dialog. I find it awkward to switch between the two when cleaning up tags. I also think it would be nice to see each tag (ID3v1 vs. ID3v2 vs. APE) on a separate page/tab/column/etc because I have often run accross mp3's with different info on each tag.  I also very much miss the filename and path being displayed accross the top of the dialog. I have tried to add it to the titlebar using advanced preferences but windows clips the titlebar text on longer pathnames.

There also appears to be a bug with foo_infobox under 0.9.3b1. All of foobar crashes if foobar changes the track while editing the tag oon another track. This does not happen with 0.9.2 but I will need to look into it a bit further and do a proper bug report on foo_infobox thread if the problem persists after 0.9.3 final.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: walla on 2006-07-15 16:07:48
I've the same problem like described by ARiel G. in his post (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=46395&st=50#):

(http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/7640/fehlerey1.png)

First the warning appears and after closing that box the Rumtime Error is shown. Sometimes only the warning opens. Could that be because of the not working, unnofficial playcount?
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: Generalverdacht on 2006-07-15 16:23:14
hm. free_db seems fu*ked....
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: Schinkentoni on 2006-07-15 16:23:41
Another suggestion:
make the current volume (not the slider, but the db entry in the status bar) available in the toolbar
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: Jubei on 2006-07-15 18:05:36
I've the same problem like described by ARiel G. in his post (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=46395&st=50#):

(http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/7640/fehlerey1.png)

First the warning appears and after closing that box the Rumtime Error is shown. Sometimes only the warning opens. Could that be because of the not working, unnofficial playcount?


Yes. Remove playcount unofficial dll and the errors go away. Anyway, it went away for me.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: tool++ on 2006-07-15 23:32:14
I got that error, but I'm not going to sacrifice playcount as my fcs depends on it.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: eisteh on 2006-07-16 10:37:06
Yeah, same here. Wonder what has to be changed. Is it some mistake in the new beta that will be fixed or has the author of the unofficial playcount to fix this problem? Anyways, i hope it will be done soon
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: roentgen on 2006-07-16 19:48:06
Nice 'Copy Info Between Files' 

Would be nicer if the 'source' and 'destination' could be easily swapped, without actually modifying their playlist position (what if it's an readonly/autoplaylist)
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: onur on 2006-07-17 01:54:42
Sorry, I found Confirmation in Recycle


Could you please clarify what you mean by this? Do you mean you turned off an option within foobar2000, or that you disabled the recycle bin altogether (so that everything you delete is automatically permanently deleted)?
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: Cutter on 2006-07-17 02:10:30
Thank you for this nice update. Would it be possible for the dialog boxes to remember their positions?
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: jteh on 2006-07-17 03:13:18
I know this has been asked quite a few times now, but as far as I know, there has never been a definite "no". Can we possibly have the "set volume to {0, -3, -6, -9, -12, -15, -18, -21}dB" commands (so they can be bound to keyboard shortcuts) back? Thanks for another great foobar version.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: foosion on 2006-07-17 12:34:15
Split posts about official Playback Statistics component (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=46582).
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: keytotime on 2006-07-17 14:20:13
Two small bugs:
1) When an invalid file is added no prompt is given.
2) When a song is paused the seekbar indicator oscillates.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: pepoluan on 2006-07-17 14:23:53
I transcoded some files into Vorbis to play in my iPaq. There were 4 transcoding sessions open (i.e. those progress bar dialog boxes) as I was transcoding from 4 different albums to 4 different directories (1 dir per album).

With older foobar (0.9.2) it worked. With latest foobar, none of the transcoded file can play in my iPaq.

Of course I found this out in my way to office, and since I have no foobar here on my office PC I can't test. I can't even say that it's foobar's fault. Can someone else check this out too?

Cannot replicate here, transcoding from LAME mp3s. (4 CDs, 4 dirs, 4 transcoding sessions running simultaneously). The ogg files play fine.

Encoder: BS; Lancer(SSE2) [20060616] (based on aoTuV b4b [20051117])
Parameters: -Q -q7.000000 -p4 - -o %d
I've done extensive experimentation (will post a bit later), and all 0.9.3 transcodes to Ogg cannot play with GSPlayer. They play well with foobar2000 and WinAmp. Further testing with OggTesterW reveals: Error OV_HOLE at 0:00 or something similar. This does not happen with 0.9.2. All 0.9.2 transcoded file is flagged OK by OggTesterW.

The errors don't show if I trim the MP3 to 180 seconds or less. Didn't try with longer MP3's. The error affects both transcoding from a .cue-equipped MP3 track and singular MP3 tracks.

FYI, I use Lancer 20060616 oggenc, for both 0.9.2 and 0.9.3beta at -q -0.5.

Currently the only way I can transcode to Ogg is to first transcode into FLAC then using OggDrop or oggenc (both worked) I transcode into Ogg. Waaaay to much work. So I just revert to 0.9.2 for the time being.

Edit: The above happens with or without multi-transcoding session, i.e. transcoding a single track while letting myself idle also produced the same error.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: Peter on 2006-07-17 15:41:50
The Ogg problem is harmless and will be fixed in the next release (including fixing of "bad" files on retag). Those files are fully decodable back, only software misinterpreting libvorbis return values will refuse to play them because of falsely reported recoverable corruption.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: pepoluan on 2006-07-17 15:46:08
Ahhh  good to hear that Peter. I really like the non-blocking library scan and the new File Info box.

Okay then, I'll look forward the next release with bated breath...
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: bjackson128 on 2006-07-17 23:44:22
just noticed beta 2 has been released

edit: i can confirm that the information lookup on the 'Rip Audio CD' screen now works using the new v0.5.2 of foo_freedb2 and v0.9.3 beta 2
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: skelly831 on 2006-07-18 00:06:16
The new General Properties tab is very nice, and the tag field editing is much more intuitive.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: kuru on 2006-07-18 02:17:13
- with 0.9.2 it was possible to build playlists without the full path to the music files, like this: ..\Music\Artist\Filename, very handy when moving the whole stuff to another partition.
0.9.3 needs the full path with the drive letter. This represents imho a big regress...
- the seekbar jumps after pause and restart of short songs...

the new properties dialogue is much more practical than the old one.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: gob on 2006-07-18 03:59:07
new version would be sweet if the old playcount plugin worked
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: pepoluan on 2006-07-18 05:06:20
Has the OV_HOLE error been fixed in beta2 ?
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: Andreasvb on 2006-07-18 08:49:44
Trying the new beta 2 and can't find where to write ID3v2.3 instead of ID3v2.4, it worked in 0.9.2.
If not a bug, please consider to add it again, not all players, software/hardware supports ID3v2.4

Thanks.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: sPeziFisH on 2006-07-18 09:15:54
The new properties-dialog is quite fine (normaly use foo_infobox).
I would like to be able to mark the filename and copy & paste it, quite useful one some tracks, where scripts won't help.

BTW I don't like the new thread-layout
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: klez on 2006-07-18 10:36:42
I think Ive found a Bug in 0.9.3. Beta 3. If u do a right Click on a Value in the properties Dialog and select "Edit" it isnt the same like hitting F2...

Furthermore: Could you PLS improve the Masstagger? Personally i miss a Preview like in the "Move, Copy, Rename" Dialog
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: musosticky on 2006-07-18 11:15:51
Huh. Good to have foo_infobox, cause i dont like the new properties Dialog. What ever... Ive found a Bug in 0.9.3. Beta 3. If u do a right Click on a Value in the properties Dialog and select "Edit" it isnt the same like hitting F2...

Furthermore: Could you PLS improve the Masstagger? Personally i miss a Preview like in the "Move, Copy, Rename" Dialog.


You mean beta 2 I assume as beta 3 hasnt been released yet.

Nice to see you thank the developers for their continued support of a brilliant program. I personally can't stand it when you see a post where the user has just moaned about what he hasnt got and forgets that with that type of attitude we'd be wallowing in WMP or Winamp shite. Good thing you're not like that.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: klez on 2006-07-18 11:39:55
As u can see ive altered my previous Post. Seems i wasnt fast enough
I can live with the new Properties and say thanks to every Developer of Foobar, cause i love this Software...
BUT: Why should i say "Big thanks to this w-o-n-d-e-rfull Feature" if i liked the old one? Im not a liar...
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: Prodoc on 2006-07-18 11:57:32
Trying the new beta 2 and can't find where to write ID3v2.3 instead of ID3v2.4, it worked in 0.9.2.
If not a bug, please consider to add it again, not all players, software/hardware supports ID3v2.4

Thanks.

I'm quite sure writing ID3v2.3 isn't possible anymore since 0.9.0 and won't be made possible anymore either. The ID3v2.4 'standard' is already a couple of years old. You should complain at software/hardware vendors for not supporting ID3v2.4 instead.

I think Ive found a Bug in 0.9.3. Beta 3. If u do a right Click on a Value in the properties Dialog and select "Edit" it isnt the same like hitting F2...

Please file proper bug reports in the Support forum (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showforum=29). Doing this in one big thread makes it impossible for the dev's to keep track of things.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: Masahiko on 2006-07-18 12:39:29
The position of the property window is always in the top/left corner so it is not very useful for editing tags. Is there a way to save the position or always center the window ?

Thanks
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: DruiD_ff on 2006-07-18 13:21:17
Thanks to developers. This player is the B_E_S_T!!!
But in new betas i found bug in covertor's menu sorting. In the options window, converter - the sorting by kbps is right (64 goes before 256). But when we click "Convert to..." on some track, in the window where we choose the converting preset - the sorting by kpbs is wrong! (64 goes after 256)
you can see these screenshots
(http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/986/22wd6.jpg)
(http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/4717/2qp0.jpg)
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: GeSomeone on 2006-07-18 14:18:11
Would it be possible to have a separate keyboard shortcut to open "General Properties" as opposed to "Meta data"? 
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: db1989 on 2006-07-18 14:24:03
DruiD_ff,

It seems the options window sorts by its own columns (in this case, encoder then average bitrate), whereas the preset window sorts by the overall name of the preset (in the format Name, Avg. Bitrate, Settings). This sorting of the strings character by character results in the behaviour you have mentioned (6 comes after 2 numerically, as I'm sure you're aware , and in any sane character set).

So, it's not a bug; it's inherent to the differing designs of the two dialogs.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: DruiD_ff on 2006-07-18 19:26:32
Quote
I'm sure you're aware

yes, i am
But this thing slightly irritate my. And i'm think it's not harmfull to fix. Just add a 0 before 6 when building menu.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: sPeziFisH on 2006-07-19 18:56:52
[foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta 2]
I got one file which has 'unsupported or corrupted format', with which applying ReplayGain is not possible - still ok, it's not about the file.
In Advanced-Options I have enabled ReplayGain-SilentMode.
When applying ReplayGain with this error-file, the ReplayGain-Scan-Results appear.
Even though it's still good IMHO as you can easily see which files caused the errors, I don't know if this is intended - just want to mention this cognition 
Great work btw *thumb up*
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: thuan on 2006-07-23 03:23:41
Vorbis tagging playing file problem seems to be fixed in 0.9.3beta3. I've just noticed the "auto track number" function in properties dialog can group track by album impressive. Foobar's just getting better and better.
Thanks to all the ppl who work on foobar.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: gob on 2006-07-23 04:48:07
does the play counter plugin work with 0.9.3 b3?
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: komplexnous on 2006-07-23 05:42:34
This may be an annoying request for a few reasons...but....
Can there be an option to have ReplayGain apply when a file is added to the playlist?  Or, maybe something similar can be done or even a nice little plugin to apply it automatically.  Yes, likely this would be for Single Track Only, but if people manually apply the Album one, that would take precedence (if the option is specified as is done now).  Even better, am I just missing this requested feature? 
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: 4nt1 on 2006-07-23 08:01:37
foobar 0.9.3.3 is out
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: Squeller on 2006-07-23 09:27:39
Great, all bugs which I know of have been fixed (various crashes on w2k).

I like the new appearance of the file properties tech page, but I think a) a filename only field is missing (because of clipping of long paths) and b) there's enough horizontal room to show anything, the user tags AND the tech info on one page.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: mixcherry on 2006-07-23 10:15:35
Would it be possible to make columns (in file-properties dialog) auto-resizable, so they would auto-fit to window's width?
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: Lorraine on 2006-07-23 23:22:42
does the play counter plugin work with 0.9.3 b3?



No. 
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: Lyx on 2006-07-24 03:43:59
I'd like to voice an apparently unusual opinion: I prefer tech-info and tags to be on seperate tabs - makes things more clear. I rarely need both simultaneusly - either i'm interested in tags-only, or i'm interested in techinfo only. As it is now, i can easily focuss on one of the two without being distracted by irrelevant info.

- Lyx
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: GeSomeone on 2006-07-24 15:42:32
As it is now, i can easily focuss on one of the two without being distracted by irrelevant info.

Yes that's OK. Only it takes an extra mouse click to get to the techinfo, each time you want just to look at it.
I'm still hoping for an extra keyboard shortcut to get to the properties in one go

edit (Yeah, sorry I already said that in this thread)
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: Squeller on 2006-07-24 16:02:02
I think, tech info could e.g. reside on the left, like a left frame, with rather a darker background which would indicate there is nothing to edit. The tags reside to the right.

More interesting is, if there are plans to integrate the masstagger into the properties window? The first step (e.g. auto tracknumber) has been done...
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: jarsonic on 2006-07-24 16:30:17
More interesting is, if there are plans to integrate the masstagger into the properties window? The first step (e.g. auto tracknumber) has been done...



Truthfully, I think the plan is to eventually eliminate the need for the separate masstager and eventually shed it from the installation.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: Frank Bicking on 2006-07-24 16:33:03
I'm quite happy with the tabbed solution, too. I mean, could you name any common situations where one would have to look at technical information while editing tags, except maybe for the filename?

More interesting is, if there are plans to integrate the masstagger into the properties window?

I've asked the same some days ago:

Quote
<Neptune> are you planning to integrate other masstagger functions into the properties dialog?
<DEATH> not for 0.9.3
<DEATH> maybe later

jarsonic: I'm hoping for the same.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: Chaser on 2006-07-24 21:35:01
Could a mod please update the thread's topic to "... beta 3 or ... beta X"?
Thanks!
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: PonasX on 2006-07-25 10:00:19
Why Foobar 0.9.3 Beta 3 can't change WMA tags ? (Could not write info (WMA tag editing not supported) to:
"D:\XXX\track 01.wma")
WMA is unprotected and other programs can change tags... This is bug of Foobar2000 or it doesn't support WMA tags ?
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: db1989 on 2006-07-25 10:30:53
You wrote:

"WMA tag editing not supported"

Does that not say it all?
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: PonasX on 2006-07-25 11:26:19
Thanks    I haven't noticed it
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: Supacon on 2006-07-26 19:31:43
Can there be an option to have ReplayGain apply when a file is added to the playlist?

I think that this would be a great feature, but of course, you'd have to be able to cancel it if you add thousands of files.  As long as it doesn't get in the way of the interface, which it shouldn't, now.


I am curious to see if the problem with playing back sub-48 kb/s AAC files has been fixed.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: edwardar on 2006-07-26 20:22:13
I've got a couple of cuesheet-related requests:

1) If I've got a flac with embedded cuesheet, I can only edit the cuesheet by selecting a single track then "utils>edit cuesheet".  It would be good if I could select all tracks from that flac and then do the same (option to edit cuesheet is not there if I try this).

2) In the Embedded Cuesheet Editor there is a "Load..." button, it would be useful and neat to have also a "Save..." button next to this. This would be an easier way to extract a cuesheet than copying and pasting to notepad.

Would anyone else find these things useful?

Ed
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: TrNSZ on 2006-07-26 20:51:49
Yes that's OK. Only it takes an extra mouse click to get to the techinfo, each time you want just to look at it.
I'm still hoping for an extra keyboard shortcut to get to the properties in one go edit (Yeah, sorry I already said that in this thread)
Just hold down "Shift" while clicking "Properties" on the context menu and you will go directly to the Properties pane rather than the Metadata pane, and not require any extra mouse clicks.

I am curious to see if the problem with playing back sub-48 kb/s AAC files has been fixed.
It has, at least with my testing with 30kbps Nero AAC files.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: Supacon on 2006-07-27 19:13:05
Good to hear that the AAC problems have been resolved... or so it seems.

I've got a couple of cuesheet-related requests:


I too have some cuesheet related requests.  In the old foobar 8.3 days, I used to use WigBam's extended cuesheet handler so that I could put arbitrary metadata like genre and BPM and year in for each individual track.  Curiously, foobar 0.9 seems to be able to read the genre and year from these files now, (but not the BPM).  However, they behave weirdly.  If I try to edit any aspect of the tags, it breaks them and they seem to lose a lot of their metadata.  I'm not really sure why this behaviour happens.  Is it possible that foobar could be made to work with such extended cuesheets more elegantly?
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: db1989 on 2006-07-27 20:40:30
foobar2000 currently only seems to support the "extended" (defined via REM) fields that EAC uses, i.e. GENRE, DATE, COMMENT, and no others. I second the request for full metadata support (i.e. support for more common tags like DISCNUMBER and also for other arbitrary tags).
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: GeSomeone on 2006-07-28 14:52:50
I'm still hoping for an extra keyboard shortcut to get to the properties in one go
Just hold down "Shift" while clicking "Properties" on the context menu and you will go directly to the Properties pane rather than the Metadata pane, and not require any extra mouse clicks.

Thanks for revealing the (hidden) shift-click Properties.  Hate to say it still takes 2 mouse clicks more than an assignable key board shortcut
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: Comwan on 2006-07-28 15:49:33
I just wanna thanks the developers for a great app. This release is great! Finally a button for re-scanning one folder. 

And the new properties window is better, looks neater.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: Lyx on 2006-07-28 15:54:23
foobar2000 currently only seems to support the "extended" (defined via REM) fields that EAC uses, i.e. GENRE, DATE, COMMENT, and no others. I second the request for full metadata support (i.e. support for more common tags like DISCNUMBER and also for other arbitrary tags).

This has been discussed hundreds of times already. What you want is not a cuesheet, but instead APL. Cuesheets dont support what you want to do. Use APL instead.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: db1989 on 2006-07-28 20:40:36
"Cuesheets dont support what you want to do."

So, they do not support REM statements?

I don't see what the problem would be in using REM as a generic metadata holder.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: pepoluan on 2006-07-28 21:54:51
What is APL?
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: zver on 2006-07-29 12:39:46
I remember that when i was trying a 0.9  that when i was tagging a bootleg for example which wasnt recognized by freedb so i had to type tracks manually,it was missing save-next button which would automatically save the info-track name and automatically open next track info properties.IIRC you had to to click update first to update the file and next to scroll on next track.
Has that been fixed till now or is it any plans to update it so it can handle this mentioned thing
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: 4nt1 on 2006-07-30 03:43:47
anyone got a change log for 0.9.3.4 ? i love seeing the new versions but I really have no idea of what has been changed or fixed so its very hard to judge or test the features...

any ideas appreciated..
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: FRICSO on 2006-07-30 04:23:36
The link to download the 0.9.2 and 0.9.3.4 in official site (http://www.foobar2000.org/index.html) is don't working!
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: Yotsuya on 2006-07-30 04:37:11
It worked for me, I just tried it again to be sure. Try clearing your cookies/cache and download it again (http://www.foobar2000.org/beta/foobar2000_0.9.3%20beta%204.exe).
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: Infernus on 2006-07-30 12:59:34
the remove dead items bug has been fixed in beta4
http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....c=46961&hl= (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=46961&hl=)
thx for fast work
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: lextune on 2006-07-30 14:24:47
anyone got a change log for 0.9.3.4 ? i love seeing the new versions but I really have no idea of what has been changed or fixed so its very hard to judge or test the features...

any ideas appreciated..

+1
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: Supacon on 2006-07-30 22:52:33
What you want is not a cuesheet, but instead APL. Cuesheets dont support what you want to do. Use APL instead.


Hrm... maybe a cuesheet isn't the absolute best solution, but I've already got hundreds of albums with cuesheets that have metadata for each track embedded into it.  Foobar 0.9 can read such data okay, but only the common fields, and it mangles the cuesheets (i.e. deletes all my metadata) if I try to change some info.  I'd like to see this functionality extended so that it will work the way that trusty 0.8.3 did (with cue_ex).
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: Rasqual on 2006-07-30 23:31:03
Also, using .apl has the advantage of being able to reference a single track in a playlist (*m3u8/fpl). The greatest drawback being its closed format, system encoding dependancy and having many files instead of one (which is also an advantage). This said, embedded (or not) cuesheets are still useful so long as it doesn't go overboard. I don't like the idea of an escape mess in cuesheet extended tags, but I support your suggestion.


Apparently components that have been modified in beta 4 are
shared.dll
foo_unpack.dll
foo_rgscan.dll
foo_masstag.dll
foo_converter.dll
foo_cdda.dll
foo_input_std.dll
foo_albumlist.dll
foo_dsp_std.dll
foo_ui_std.dll
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: GeSomeone on 2006-07-31 09:52:25
Thanks to the developers for the keyboard shortcut for "Properties (properties tab)" .
There is also a "Properties (metadata tab)", but that's the same as just "Properties".
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: Prodoc on 2006-07-31 12:53:54
anyone got a change log for 0.9.3.4 ? i love seeing the new versions but I really have no idea of what has been changed or fixed so its very hard to judge or test the features...

any ideas appreciated..

At least the Vorbis decoding failure issue (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=46839) appears to be fixed again  Thanks Peter!
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: Squeller on 2006-07-31 14:53:27

anyone got a change log for 0.9.3.4 ? i love seeing the new versions but I really have no idea of what has been changed or fixed so its very hard to judge or test the features...

any ideas appreciated..
At least the Vorbis decoding failure issue (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=46839) appears to be fixed again  Thanks Peter!
This has been fixed in b3 afaik.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: Prodoc on 2006-07-31 15:16:03


anyone got a change log for 0.9.3.4 ? i love seeing the new versions but I really have no idea of what has been changed or fixed so its very hard to judge or test the features...

any ideas appreciated..
At least the Vorbis decoding failure issue (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=46839) appears to be fixed again  Thanks Peter!
This has been fixed in b3 afaik.

Nope, I discovered and reported it after beta 3.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: _eclectic_ on 2006-07-31 21:33:37
I just wanted to say thanks for beta 4!  It is significantly faster opening/closing and all around for me that the beta 3.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: db1989 on 2006-08-01 11:03:25
Quote
Foobar 0.9 can read such data okay, but only the common fields, and it mangles the cuesheets (i.e. deletes all my metadata) if I try to change some info. I'd like to see this functionality extended

Exactly.  Sadly, all such enquiries have met with no response so far.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: Chaser on 2006-08-05 14:07:19
foobar 0.9.3 final is available on http://foobar2000.org/ (http://foobar2000.org/)
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: FRICSO on 2006-08-07 19:23:15
guys, I really can't download the executable from the official site!

I'd just tried to clean my cookies and cache (like Yotsuya suggested), but don't worked in the Firefox and Internet Explorer.
Always I click in the link, and simply reload the webpage.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: deus-ex on 2006-08-07 19:35:46
guys, I really can't download the executable from the official site!

I'd just tried to clean my cookies and cache (like Yotsuya suggested), but don't worked in the Firefox and Internet Explorer.
Always I click in the link, and simply reload the webpage.

Try this: Copy the downloadlink and Paste it into the adressbar.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: saratoga on 2006-08-08 02:44:31
What changes needed to be made to fix Vista compatability?  I'm not running Vista yet, but I'm curious about the state of the transistion and why some programs do not work properly in under it.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: Yotsuya on 2006-08-08 03:59:29
I just installed Foobar v0.9.3 final on my Vista Public Beta2 testbox and it appears to run fine. Mind you this was just a default install and nothing fancy, no 3rd party plugins or anything but it appears to work out of the box with nothing special.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: foosion on 2006-08-08 06:57:09
What changes needed to be made to fix Vista compatability?  I'm not running Vista yet, but I'm curious about the state of the transistion and why some programs do not work properly in under it.
In this case, it was some memory management functions in the runtime library that Microsoft changed in a non-backwards compatible way.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: FRICSO on 2006-08-08 19:22:49
[quote author=deus-ex link=msg=418643 date=1154975746]Try this: Copy the downloadlink and Paste it into the adressbar.[/quote]

Don't worked too! I'd tried to copy to my download manager (flashget) and don't worked too!

it's too bad
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: funKie on 2006-08-08 19:28:46
If you want, I can upload it to YouSendit, and you can dl from there..just reply .
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: roentgen on 2006-08-08 19:40:03
[quote author=deus-ex link=msg=418643 date=1154975746]
Try this: Copy the downloadlink and Paste it into the adressbar.


Don't worked too! I'd tried to copy to my download manager (flashget) and don't worked too!

it's too bad
[/quote]
Well... it sounds like bloated software (read: firewall) is installed on your computer. If this is the case turn it off/uninstall/shift+delete... As you may see it's less than helping.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: FRICSO on 2006-08-10 23:23:16
If you want, I can upload it to YouSendit, and you can dl from there..just reply .

oh, do this for me, please! thanks!

Well... it sounds like bloated software (read: firewall) is installed on your computer. If this is the case turn it off/uninstall/shift+delete... As you may see it's less than helping.

I don't use firewall, but thanks for your help!
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: boombaard on 2006-08-10 23:33:43

If you want, I can upload it to YouSendit, and you can dl from there..just reply .

oh, do this for me, please! thanks!

Well... it sounds like bloated software (read: firewall) is installed on your computer. If this is the case turn it off/uninstall/shift+delete... As you may see it's less than helping.

I don't use firewall, but thanks for your help!


meh. just disable the download manager.. works just fine
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: FRICSO on 2006-08-12 03:33:03
Quote
meh. just disable the download manager.. works just fine

I don't using download manager, what I said's: I'd tried to use, but don't worked.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.3 beta
Post by: 4nt1 on 2006-08-13 16:24:13
v 0.9.3.1 is out
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