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Title: Bypass audio CD protections with a felt tip pen or a Post-It
Post by: JohnV on 2002-05-14 11:04:42
cd-rw posted insteresting news about new methods to bypass cactus data shield and key2audio protections according to the instructions of german chip.de.

http://64.27.90.98/news/archive/2922.cfm (http://64.27.90.98/news/archive/2922.cfm)

http://www.chip.de/praxis_wissen/praxis_wissen_8725919.html (http://www.chip.de/praxis_wissen/praxis_wissen_8725919.html)
Title: Bypass audio CD protections with a felt tip pen or a Post-It
Post by: Trelane on 2002-05-14 13:31:18
Years of research and development destroyed by a marker. That is too funny. Good tip, though!
Title: Bypass audio CD protections with a felt tip pen or a Post-It
Post by: fewtch on 2002-05-14 13:49:24
I checked it out with Babelfish German to English(hilarious "translation," but good enough to figure out).  Looks very simple, just cover the data track portion (outer portion of the disk) with a post-it note, or make some of it unreadable using a felt tip marker.  The article stated it won't fool "Mediacloq" but works with just about everything else.
Title: Bypass audio CD protections with a felt tip pen or a Post-It
Post by: AgentMil on 2002-05-14 14:02:13
Hmm read about this yesterday!  But isn't this method a new angle on the old? In the old one you use pieces of paper to block the data portion of the CD. Although using the felt marker method is better cause you won't have the paper flying off in your CD drive. But is this really necessary? A certain CD duplicator software lets your read the first session of a CD, so then the resulting copy is copyable. Which CD program I will let you guys find out don't want to get into trouble but it got something to do with a famous "Dolly" !

Cheers
AgentMil
Title: Bypass audio CD protections with a felt tip pen or a Post-It
Post by: CiTay on 2002-05-14 14:20:34
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Originally posted by fewtch
I checked it out with Babelfish German to English(hilarious "translation," but good enough to figure out).  Looks very simple, just cover the data track portion (outer portion of the disk) with a post-it note, or make some of it unreadable using a felt tip marker. 


No no no! Blame Babelfish for this one. They say *NOT* to use the Post-It things, because they might get loose and damage the drive. They say, a good alternative to the post-it method is the "Stabilo OHPen Non-Permanent medium" pen.
Title: Bypass audio CD protections with a felt tip pen or a Post-It
Post by: fewtch on 2002-05-14 14:30:35
Oh OK, thanks for the correction.  Not that I'd ever buy a copy protected CD (probably newer music I'm not interested in), but if it ever comes up it's good to be prepared...
Title: Bypass audio CD protections with a felt tip pen or a Post-It
Post by: Trelane on 2002-05-14 14:51:48
I imagine you could also use a small piece of black electrical tape. Wouldn't come off and it wouldn't be as devistating if you screwed up (peel it off and start over).
Title: Bypass audio CD protections with a felt tip pen or a Post-It
Post by: Hanky on 2002-05-14 16:45:44
So sad for these poor audio protection companies, they are already losing money...

TTR Technologies Reports First-quarter Loss (http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/020513/132730_1.html)
Title: Bypass audio CD protections with a felt tip pen or a Post-It
Post by: theduke on 2002-05-14 17:27:09
This one is rather old. But I would only do this as last resort. Painting your CDs shouldn't be too good. Better you have the right equipment to remove the protection. But the best option would be not to buy copy protected...not CDs....whatchacallit
Title: Bypass audio CD protections with a felt tip pen or a Post-It
Post by: Negative Zero on 2002-05-14 18:21:34
I tried the tape method last night on my copy-protected Milk Inc. - Walk On Water (http://www.emimusic.de/xml/9/3250359/8799912.html) CD-maxi.  I stuck a small piece of thin masking tape over the second session of the disc, and it seemed to help... at least to an extent.

My Lite-On LTD-163D drive now reads the disc much quicker and reports it as having one session with 9 tracks -- which is basically missing only the protection found in the second session. However, my drive still cannot play back or rip any of the tracks.

My iRiver SlimX, on the other hand, is now able to play back the copy-protected CD with the exception of track 1, which it just will NOT read, for some strange reason. The tape method didn't completely remove the protection as well as I had hoped for, but it's better than before, at least.
Title: Bypass audio CD protections with a felt tip pen or a Post-It
Post by: n68 on 2002-05-14 18:57:40
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Originally posted by AgentMil
Hmm read about this yesterday!  But isn't this method a new angle on the old? !



yup...


this is very familiar with the oldschool DJ method
of moving or set point labels on a record..

thus.. maybe there is a background..


Title: Bypass audio CD protections with a felt tip pen or a Post-It
Post by: markusk on 2002-05-23 18:01:57
Hello!

Recently I bought Dj Networx vol. 13 (from Sony Music) which was copy protected with key2audio and both of my drives (cdrw & dvd) couldn't rip it. After I used a black permanent marker pen to cover the data track at the outer end of the cd (as instructed) it it ripped without errors at the hands of EAC. The data track doesn't need to be covered completely, just be careful that you don't cover the audio part. I wish the industry wouldn't do this kind of foul play...

Markus
Title: Bypass audio CD protections with a felt tip pen or a Post-It
Post by: cadabra3 on 2002-05-26 08:17:21
Just to be sure- you mean the very OUTER edge of the cd- shiny edge- not  the inner section? Sorry for such a dumb question- just want to be sure even I understand- thanks- cadabra3 :confused:
Title: Bypass audio CD protections with a felt tip pen or a Post-It
Post by: fewtch on 2002-05-26 13:52:01
It refers to the outer section, not the very outer edge. 

On the disk (if protected with key2audio) you'll see two tracks, a large inner track and smaller outer track.  Marker goes across the smaller outer track on top of the data.  If unsure, use a pen with washable ink, or thin electrical tape.

BTW, I haven't heard of many key2audio protected CD's in the USA.  RIAA is still using Europe as the major test market for this crap.
Title: Bypass audio CD protections with a felt tip pen or a Post-It
Post by: CiTay on 2002-05-26 14:38:11
Today's news from Sony (on german http://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/lab-26.05.02-001/ (http://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/lab-26.05.02-001/)):

The visible line between the audio and the data track in Key2Audio, where people applied the "marker-trick", will be made invisible in an upcoming version of that copy protection. It will look like a normal CD, not leaving any clue on where to draw the line with the marker.
Title: Bypass audio CD protections with a felt tip pen or a Post-It
Post by: Gecko on 2002-05-26 18:02:34
I would like to know if the boundry is only no longer visible (meaning, they just filled up the gap with dummy data), or they moved the data track closer to the audio part (which would make it harder). Either way, I think it is still overcomeable. Just work your way in from the outside. If you use a non permanent marker or the tape method, the risk is minimal. If you cover too much, you won't be able to rip the last track properly. The other tracks should rip fine. I hope having a Plextor drive will save me the voodoo though.
Title: Bypass audio CD protections with a felt tip pen or a Post-It
Post by: cadabra3 on 2002-05-27 08:16:38
Thanks fewtch and everyone else- I finally understand- and now, they are going to change it. Reason I asked, was a friend in England has been having more and more trouble ripping discs and asked me about it (better to ask someone who has knowledge). I referred him to HydrogenAudio for future information. Still, I figure anything in Europe now, will be here in the U.S. soon enough. Thanks again- (trying to catch up) -cadabra3
Title: Bypass audio CD protections with a felt tip pen or a Post-It
Post by: danbee on 2002-05-27 12:50:07
i ripped a copy of the 'spider-man' film soundtrack last nite.  no idea what copy protection it's got but i just fired up eac and hit the mp3 button and away it went!

no markers, no stickers or anything...

all this copy protection lark is a complete waste of time as far as i can see.
Title: Bypass audio CD protections with a felt tip pen or a Post-It
Post by: fewtch on 2002-05-27 14:32:34
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Originally posted by danbee
i ripped a copy of the 'spider-man' film soundtrack last nite.  no idea what copy protection it's got but i just fired up eac and hit the mp3 button and away it went!

no markers, no stickers or anything...

all this copy protection lark is a complete waste of time as far as i can see.

Ummm yeah, for CD's that aren't copy protected, I suppose it would be!
Title: Bypass audio CD protections with a felt tip pen or a Post-It
Post by: NeoRenegade on 2002-05-27 16:40:04
Newbie guide to defeating CD copy-prevention. Courtesy of yours truly. Link here (http://www.geocities.com/neorenegade/DefeatCDS.html)
Title: Bypass audio CD protections with a felt tip pen or a Post-It
Post by: rjamorim on 2002-05-27 17:10:45
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This information is for educational purposes only, and it is NOT the intention of the author that you act on this information.


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