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Title: Testing the hypothesis that Cassette is ready to supersede the CD
Post by: Arnold B. Krueger on 2017-09-30 18:01:59
Subjectivity, I love it!

The attached files relate to an attempt to show that cassette tape deserves a resurgence, apparently like vinyl.

I was able to secure a sample file of an re-recording of a CD on the lauded cassette deck (JVC TD-V66 ) and have set up files for a level-matched and time-synched comparison of it. I also was able to get some technical tests run.

It would be fun if someone thought they had a better example of this for us to listen to and test.


Title: Re: Testing the hypothesis that Cassette is ready to supersede the CD
Post by: soundping on 2017-10-02 03:24:30
Have you tested with 24 bit 192Hz audio file?
Title: Re: Testing the hypothesis that Cassette is ready to supersede the CD
Post by: Porcus on 2017-10-02 09:35:30
... and MQA? ;)
Title: Re: Testing the hypothesis that Cassette is ready to supersede the CD
Post by: includemeout on 2017-10-02 11:19:38
...in an anechoic chamber?
Title: Re: Testing the hypothesis that Cassette is ready to supersede the CD
Post by: Arnold B. Krueger on 2017-10-02 12:16:09
Have you tested with 24 bit 192Hz audio file?

Dozens of times, or more. There should be some 24/192 files that I posted here in the downloads forum.

However, the argument goes like this.  We know for sure that the sensitivity of the human ear drops off as frequency increases starting just above 4 KHz (which is totally inside the audio band) so if you can't tell the difference between 16/44 and 24/96 all is already lost. Of course I've tested extensively with 24/96 and I even for about a decade I ran the www.pcabx.com web site that was chock full of custom made 24/96 and 16/44 downsampled files for free download. You can still find it and download files from it on the Wayback Machine.

Bottom line, 24/96 and 24/192 testing is for newbies, and after a brain hemorrhage, two decades of life leaving me now 70, a stroke and chemo-therapy for colo-rectal cancer and resulting body-wide neural damage, I'm not doing much ABX testing for record, unless the outcomes are positive in which case that is some kind of a comment on how audible the effect is.

BTW, There are a number of high end lumnaries who are about the same age as I, so go figure!

Testing related to 24/96 and 192 has to come out null if done cleanly, if you understand human physiology and hearing.
Title: Re: Testing the hypothesis that Cassette is ready to supersede the CD
Post by: Arnold B. Krueger on 2017-10-02 12:18:42
I suspect there are some time synch and other problems with my samples, so if you don't get positive results, negotiate for new ears!

I will try to fix, but the cassette file is so different from the CD file that matching them is unusually difficult.
Title: Re: Testing the hypothesis that Cassette is ready to supersede the CD
Post by: soundping on 2017-10-03 09:41:08
Get old JVC TD-V531 out.  It time play, find the old metal cassettes.  :D
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