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Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: JohnV on 2003-05-01 02:13:02
Hydrogenaudio is happy to announce that we will be hosting RareWares -site from now on.
The new address is: http://rarewares.hydrogenaudio.org (http://rarewares.hydrogenaudio.org)

RareWares offers compiles of useful audio/media related software, often hard to find elsewhere.

The new site design was done by rc55 (Ruairi Fullam) so you can give him feedback about it.

RareWares is administrated by rjamorim (Roberto José De Amorim).
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: onthejazz on 2003-05-01 02:33:55
very nice to see!  awesome layout.  this really is the organization that has been needed for a while - on all of the programs & external links to codecs & binaries.

what happened to lamedrop 3.92 version?

excellent work!

-onthejazz
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: Mgz on 2003-05-01 02:35:34
John doesn't need to put mirror 1,mirror 2,etc on his poor little sig any more, just http://rarewares.hydrogenaudio.org/ (http://rarewares.hydrogenaudio.org/) 

And I look at the FAQ question




/edit
grammar (as always  )

//edit

add FAQ question 


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Which encoder/format is the worst?

    Easy: WMA, VQF, QDesign, BladeEnc, old AAC encoders (Homeboy, MBsoft...). Forget them.


-Why crap about WMA ? It's free and with WMEv9 we can choose It have DRM or not, and the quality sure surpass MP3 
-Forgot the famous Xing Encoder 

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Which encoder/format is the best?

    -Short answer:
    You should test them yourself, and choose which one best suit your needs.
    -Somewhat long answer:
    For highest quality @ High bitrates: Musepack (MPC)
    For overall high quality, even at lower bitrates (96 ~ 160kbps): Psytel AAC
    For best compatibility: Lame using --alt-presets
    A very promising format: Ogg Vorbis
    For very low bitrates (<64kbps): MP3pro


I still thinks that Ogg Vorbis, RealAudioV8 or WMA are VERY GOOD under 64 kbps 
highest quality @ High bitrates = lossless encoder (FLAC,Monkey,etc), not MPC 
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: Xenion on 2003-05-01 02:55:38
great work and idea

but i wouldn't call it rarewares anymore. i would call it audioware or something. when i gave the link of the old rarewares site to some of my friends who are new to ogg vorbis for example they didn't really trust it because of the name "rarewares" and the url. they prefered using some outdated version (of oggdropxd for example) from the official vorbis site instead of using the updated ones from rarewares. just a suggestion from my experiences...
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: MachineHead on 2003-05-01 03:01:26
Links > Project Mayhem? Maybe this should be changed....
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: rjamorim on 2003-05-01 03:35:37
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very nice to see!  awesome layout.  this really is the organization that has been needed for a while - on all of the programs & external links to codecs & binaries.

Thanks a lot.

But more tweaks are on the way. Just you wait...

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what happened to lamedrop 3.92 version?


OMG! I must have dropped it along the way between Brazil and California.

I'll return there and look for it. As soon as I find it, I'll place it where it belongs.



@ everyone else: Thanks a lot! Please keep the suggestions coming. They are very, very welcome, and I promise I'll implement them (if feasible) AFA possible. The ones you suggested already have been already implemented.

( I might take some time to do some updates, since I'll travel tomorrow morning to the beach. Will be back next Sunday. But surely John33 and Ruairi will be able to keep it up  )
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: rjamorim on 2003-05-01 03:39:43
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but i wouldn't call it rarewares anymore. i would call it audioware or something.

That's a nice idea. But there are two issues:

1st - everyone got used to RareWares. It's been the page's name for almost 20 months! And I've grown very fond of that name...

2nd - RareWares isn't only audio anymore. Since some months ago, I have been hosting video binaries (You can find them at the MPEG4 section)

As for your friends: Shame on them.

But, sure, if you guys want keep suggesting names. Maybe you could suggest something that makes the transition really worth it?

Kind regards;

Roberto.
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: SometimesWarrior on 2003-05-01 03:56:37
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But, sure, if you guys want keep suggesting names. Maybe you could suggest something that makes the transition really worth it?

Roberto's Audio Kingdom! (And Ruairi and John33's Fiefdoms) 

It's good to see HA hosting RareWares, a site that was probably linked to more often than any other external site, and an important audio-compression resource. The redesign is definitely nice-looking and easy to navigate, and I'm assuming there are no more bandwidth/storage worries! One small request: I would prefer a larger font, or at least a font sizing that responds to Internet Explorer's "font size" command.

I'm eagerly awaiting the upcoming site tweaks...
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: onthejazz on 2003-05-01 04:14:41
ok, i'd like to request on the portal page, maybe above or below the board navigation section (on the far left at the top), a section with links to the sites hosted within hydrogen audio, RareWares, Foobar2000, etc..  and any Guides or Tools that will be or already are a part of this site. 

Notice not a link to the forums like across the top of the page, but like a Links or Tools box,  to get to these hosted portals/sites.  Just like the Board Navigation box.

B)

thanks!  onthejazz.

wow jkml talk about a jinx
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: jkml on 2003-05-01 04:16:34
Is it possible to add links to sites hosted by Hydrogen Audio on the latter's front (portal) page?  Otherwise, new visitors might not be able to find these sites easily.
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: Dibrom on 2003-05-01 04:37:40
Yes, there are plans to do something like this, but on a larger scale (part of a complete portal redesign).  Right now it's not at the top of the priority list.  For the time being, the Documentation Project framework takes that spot (and will continue to do so until it goes public).
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: rjamorim on 2003-05-01 04:43:11
SometimesWarrior, onthejazz, jkml: These kinds of requests (design, etc.)should be addressed at Ruairi, since I can't code HTML for toffee.

Hopefully, he'll notice this thread soon and implement these suggestions.
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: kotrtim on 2003-05-01 05:13:38
COOL, nice website, better than prev.
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: /\/ephaestous on 2003-05-01 05:38:22
little typo:
Volumax compile date should read: Mar 9 2003

I like the new layout, but prefer the old colors (black on white rocks!)
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: rjamorim on 2003-05-01 06:04:37
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little typo:
Volumax compile date should read: Mar 9 2003

Just fixed it. Thanks a lot for reporting.

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I like the new layout, but prefer the old colors (black on white rocks!)


Well, maybe Ruairi will make user-selectable layouts?
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: grbmusic on 2003-05-01 07:54:15
Congratulations Roberto!!!, I like the layout and design of the site,
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: 264556 on 2003-05-01 08:09:36
Adding a border="0" attribute to the rarewares logo would be nice - my IE6 browser puts a great big blue border around it because it's a hyperlink.
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: AstralStorm on 2003-05-01 08:16:51
Don't you already know that IE is retarded?

Anyway, the page looks great, but there should be a link to HA on the front page...
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: 264556 on 2003-05-01 08:37:08
Yes I already know that IE is retarded.

This doesn't mean that you should deliberately make your site look weird for 95% of your viewers.

As Ruairi has put border="0" on every other hyperlinked image, I suspect this was just overlooked for the main logo.
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: Mac on 2003-05-01 10:45:10
I personally find the design a little hard to read, in the program listings they are a little too close together

The site is however much improved, giving a small description of each file is a real help for those who don't know the exact filename & version they are after

Keep the RareWares name, warez is spelt with er, a z. 
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: john33 on 2003-05-01 10:52:02
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Keep the RareWares name, warez is spelt with er, a z. 

It's very specifically NOT spelt with a 'z' because they are NOT 'warez' in the accepted sense.
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: 2Bdecided on 2003-05-01 11:12:06
Love it very much!


[span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%']but[/span]

ditto the comment about the blue border around the site name - should go IMO (but I'm no style guru!!!!!!!)

to make it obvious that it's not warez, you could call it that, or make that a tag line - RareWares - no warez, just quality (or something)

And Ruairi (who seems to be a great guy) has comitted my number 1 pet hate in web design (though I've done it many times too) - he's fixed the font size! Now look pal - it might be your web site, but it's displaying on my PC!  I'm not a n00b - I found the option to change the text size in my browser back in 1994, and I've set it to the size that I want - don't you go messing with it!  (please - note the smiley - I'm sure you will)

Seriously, the most annoying thing on the web is/was for sites to make their entire content "font size=-1" - which basically means "Take the font size that the user has chosen because it's the right size for them, and make it a bit smaller so they can't quite read it so comfortably anymore!" I know you've used CSS to fix it exactly, rather make it relative, but it that still makes it just a bit too small for me, and could be much worse for others. I think it would be better to allow the size of most of the text to default to whatever the browser normally does.

Anyway, apart from that, it's a great redesign, and good to know that HA has it safely hosted.

Cheers,
David.

P.S. It seems to re-load every single image for each and every page on the site - even the images that are the same on each page, and even when you re-visit the same page. Maybe it's a problem my end, but I'd expect them all to be cached locally, but they don't appear to be.
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: smok3 on 2003-05-01 11:35:54
great news,

desing is nice, (i think absolute fixed size is at the moment the only simple way to make the page appear the same in ie and mozzila based browsers), anyway, i would make the contents b/w, that way the navigation will look more logical as well, since it will 'stand up a bit'...

(btw, there was nothing wrong with the old 'design' - was clear and simple)

edit: and why not make the same logos as in navigation appear on selected pages as well? (like mp3 -> mp3)
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: glauco on 2003-05-01 11:38:19
Great idea and great layout !!! 

If I have to make a suggestion, maybe the rows of programs are very close together...  I don't know, when I look at them globally they don't seem like a set of programs, but like an single bunch of text.

Well, maybe I'm just being too demanding...    forget it.

Great idea, Great work. 
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: john33 on 2003-05-01 12:04:35
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Yes I already know that IE is retarded.

This doesn't mean that you should deliberately make your site look weird for 95% of your viewers.

As Ruairi has put border="0" on every other hyperlinked image, I suspect this was just overlooked for the main logo.

OK, blue border eliminated.
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: AstralStorm on 2003-05-01 12:29:22
Please add ALT attribute to graphics,
some guys here still sometimes use text browsers
(well, me - ELinks)
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: n68 on 2003-05-01 12:32:19
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great work and idea

but i wouldn't call it rarewares anymore. i would call it audioware or something. when i gave the link of the old rarewares site to some of my friends who are new to ogg vorbis for example they didn't really trust it because of the name "rarewares" and the url. they prefered using some outdated version (of oggdropxd for example) from the official vorbis site instead of using the updated ones from rarewares. just a suggestion from my experiences...

yup...


like R. say.. 1. 2.
+
a third issue.. am pretty shure..(w00t)  the "rare"
comes out of "not-so-very-common-to-come-by"..

but now when the site is under HA.
a namechange is possible.. but me
personally.. kinda like the name..
and wouldn`t change it.
the tools provided.. isn`t average
user stuff yet..

HA. isn`t yet SO known.. 
(the name & knowledge.. maybe..but not the url..)
a little more PR. is due.. me think..


Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: tangent on 2003-05-01 12:36:16
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2nd - RareWares isn't only audio anymore. Since some months ago, I have been hosting video binaries (You can find them at the MPEG4 section)

Call it mediawares then
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: ibm2080 on 2003-05-01 12:49:21
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Yes I already know that IE is retarded.

This doesn't mean that you should deliberately make your site look weird for 95% of your viewers.

As Ruairi has put border="0" on every other hyperlinked image, I suspect this was just overlooked for the main logo.

I just tested the site with IE 6, and I guess john33 fixed the problem except for the "Lossless" page.

Edit: BTW, I loved it. Good job.
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: RIV@NVX on 2003-05-01 13:02:59
Very cool site. Nice work!
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: Cobra on 2003-05-01 13:43:48
RareMedia is better name

Also please add links to Ogg Vorbis:
http://www.icecast.org/ (http://www.icecast.org/) -  Icecast is an audio broadcasting system  that streams music in the Ogg Vorbis format, and is available under the terms of the GNU  GPL.
http://sjeng.org (http://sjeng.org) - home of Garf`s GT3, Vorbis gain, GT2, and Floggy (4kbps Vorbis encoder)
http://ogg.pagina.nl/ (http://ogg.pagina.nl/) - Dutch(?) Ogg Vorbis site
http://www.ogg.prv.pl/ (http://www.ogg.prv.pl/) - Polish Ogg vorbis site
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: Jan S. on 2003-05-01 13:44:52
Actually the site was called RareWarez at the very beginning (only a few minutes AFAIR ) till someone suggested to change it.

Great work.
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: rjamorim on 2003-05-01 13:49:48
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Actually the site was called RareWarez at the very beginning (only a few minutes FAIR ) till someone suggested to change it.

And then, there was the RareWare idea - but that's a british video game producer - now nearly defunct. (you probably know them by Donkey Kong Country)
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: john33 on 2003-05-01 14:09:01
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I just tested the site with IE 6, and I guess john33 fixed the problem except for the "Lossless" page.

I changed it, but missed uploading it!! All done now.
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: rc55 on 2003-05-01 17:08:00
Thanks everyone for the positive feedback!

The site maintenance has been handed over completely to Roberto so hopefully he can sort out any issues people are having.

We'll be watching this thread for sure, and if Roberto has issues implementing some of the suggestions, for sure I'll be willing to help sort it out.

I also hope Roberto will consider revising some of his recommended suggestions, maybe they are a little out of date. The first thing we wanted to acheive was to get the site sorted and live, now that it is, we'll try to make it as useful as possible for our users.

Thanks once again for all the feedback, it has been tremendously encouraging for me!

Ruairi
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: chencho on 2003-05-01 17:23:01
Roberto:

  Congratulations for your Nice Job.  As my english is very poor, I donno how to express my feelings, but I am happy. I was looking a Nice website like Yours and I Found it!




Viva Mexico!

A Mexican Friend from Mexico (Compadre)
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: CiTay on 2003-05-01 17:26:29
Sorry, we speak english here. TOS (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=1&t=3974&) point 10.
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: chencho on 2003-05-01 18:04:22
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Sorry, we speak english here. TOS (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=1&t=3974&) point 10.


Apologizes! i was Edited  my post to English. Sorry for my Mistake!

is it Right?

Thanks.


Viva la Hispanidad, Viva Mexico!
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: SNYder on 2003-05-01 18:35:32
Rarewares is really hard for me to say for some reason. I can't even say it two times back to back without messing it up

[edit] I too think the name should be changed compleately.  And no, not because I have trouble saying it
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: AngelGR on 2003-05-01 18:47:17
Congratulations. It's a nice site.

@Chencho: maybe you like this:
Aural - Sonido Digital (http://www.aural.tk) 
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: LIF on 2003-05-01 18:49:41
Much better now.
Tnx HA for hosting it.
Good Job guys: Roberto, John and Ruairi.
:-)
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: kritip on 2003-05-01 18:53:52
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Apologizes! i was Edited  my post to English. Sorry for my Mistake!

is it Right?

Thanks.


Viva la Hispanidad, Viva Mexico!

Yes it makes sense in English, don't worry! 

Kristian
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: bluewer than blue on 2003-05-01 19:00:20
Kudos for the very convenient and elegant design

My only "complaint" has to do with the chosen font...even though the site doesn't use much text, still I find it difficult to pay attention to the description of the programs (the FAQ seems OK) after a while. Verdana or Aria would be better, but since I'm the only one bringing this up, don't even consider it.

Keep up the good work guys...we all appreciate your effort.
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: CiTay on 2003-05-01 19:08:44
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My only "complaint" has to do with the chosen font...even though the site doesn't use much text, still I find it difficult to pay attention to the description of the programs (the FAQ seems OK) after a while. Verdana or Aria would be better, but since I'm the only one bringing this up, don't even consider it.

No, we've already bombarded rjamorim and rc55 with the "use sans-serif" talk in the chatroom. You're not alone.  rc55 will look into it.
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: marteataca on 2003-05-01 19:13:16
parabéns roberto 
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: fireballuk2001 on 2003-05-01 19:18:31
I was about to mention the font too, but seeing as its already an issue raised i'm happy to wait for the outcome! Great site though btw! 
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: /\/ephaestous on 2003-05-01 19:29:08
ahh the font... hadn't notice it since I set up Mozilla Firebird to use my fonts.

Georgia... Serif Fonts...
Look good on print....
But bad on screen...
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: n68 on 2003-05-01 20:34:36
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Rarewares is really hard for me to say for some reason. I can't even say it two times back to back without messing it up

yup...


@SNYder...

it goes better when you write it  doesn`t it 

bwt.

@AngelGR

what is the name of the font in your avtar..
i need it for some designwork 


Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: kritip on 2003-05-01 20:53:46
Cool, i won't have to keep searching for Johnn33 to find his link to it anyymore as i always forgot to bookmark it!!



On another topic, i don't wan't to sound picky and i may be completly wrong about this an missunderstood what was being implied but doesn't hte RareWares FAQ break the Hydrogenaudio Terms of Service? See below:

Rarewares FAQ --
4. - Do you know where I can get (place your wanted piece of audio warez here)?

    Look for a guy called aradzish. That's all I can say.


Hydrogen Audio TOS --
9. Links to copyrighted or illegal material, discussion containing information of how to obtain such material, bypass protection methodologies of such material, or otherwise violate laws pertaining to such matters, will not be tolerated.

Basically all you have to do is type in that name into google and you come across a russian site that, although i can't read Russian, is distributing "(place your wanted piece of audio warez here)" applications.




Again Sorry if i'm incorrect,

Kristian
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: rc55 on 2003-05-01 20:59:16
Kritip,

Good observation. As you may or may not know Rarewares is a straight text dump of the existing site, so that slipped through. I'll give Roberto a nudge.

Cheers,

Ruairi
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: kritip on 2003-05-01 21:02:46
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Kritip,

Good observation. As you may or may not know Rarewares is a straight text dump of the existing site, so that slipped through. I'll give Roberto a nudge.

Cheers,

Ruairi

No worries   
Just glad i didn't sound like i was complaning, just don't want HA or it's hosted sites getting into any legal bother (though im sure it wouldn't for that!!)

Cheers,

Kristian
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: Mac on 2003-05-01 21:03:22
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Keep the RareWares name, warez is spelt with er, a z. 

It's very specifically NOT spelt with a 'z' because they are NOT 'warez' in the accepted sense. 

Lol...  I meant warez is the illegal stuff, spelt with a Z, RareWares isn't that
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: rc55 on 2003-05-01 21:07:15
Everyone,

I've changed the CSS to use Sans-Serif fonts. Yay!

Kritip,

I've PM'd Roberto. Thanks again!

Ruairi
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: john33 on 2003-05-01 21:12:45
For all those who had a gripe about the font, I just changed it all!! Now come back and tell me you don't like this either, I dare you!!
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: kritip on 2003-05-01 21:15:27
I'm also curious why programs such as this:

MPCencT: Encode MPC and add APE tags at once
V.0.32. Sources included. By Eric Stenborg.
Download (47Kb)

are still avaliable??!!  All the latest version support tagging from the command prompt and in various ripping programs, the only purpose i see for this now is if you want to use an old (non-recommended by HA) mppenc and also want to tag it from the command line.

I think, as this page will now attract many more people, will only serve to add confusion to the tagging.

Of course, if i have missed something obvious, forgive me! I don't want to seem like i have an opinion on the entire sites content, this particular download seems redundant though,

Cheers,

Kristian
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: rc55 on 2003-05-01 21:17:11
John,

Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I've changed the CSS too! Whoops...

Lets make sure our copies are identical.

----------------- rw.css -----------------

tr {
   font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
   font-size: 12px;
   color: #FFFFFF;


}
a {
   font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
   font-size: 12px;
   color: #FFFFFF;
   text-decoration: underline;
   font-style: oblique;

}


-----------------------------------------------------

Cheers,

Ruairi
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: harashin on 2003-05-01 21:33:04
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I'm also curious why programs such as this:

MPCencT: Encode MPC and add APE tags at once
V.0.32. Sources included. By Eric Stenborg.
Download (47Kb)

are still avaliable??!!  All the latest version support tagging from the command prompt and in various ripping programs, the only purpose i see for this now is if you want to use an old (non-recommended by HA) mppenc and also want to tag it from the command line.

I think, as this page will now attract many more people, will only serve to add confusion to the tagging.

Of course, if i have missed something obvious, forgive me! I don't want to seem like i have an opinion on the entire sites content, this particular download seems redundant though,

Cheers,

Kristian

I still need it.
I think that MPCencT is useful for tagging with Japanese characters (Shift-JIS).
It seems that mppenc cannot treat 2byte codes well.
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: kritip on 2003-05-01 22:20:24
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I still need it.
I think that MPCencT is useful for tagging with Japanese characters (Shift-JIS).
It seems that mppenc cannot treat 2byte codes well.

Cool, no worries, i couldn't see a use for it, but i was sure there must be one.
Have you e-mailed the developer with your specific problem, it may be easily fixed!



Onto the website again, the download link for the FAAD2 binaries doesn't work from the main page, it does in the actuall downloads section though,


Kristian
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: harashin on 2003-05-01 22:40:44
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Cool, no worries, i couldn't see a use for it, but i was sure there must be one.
Have you e-mailed the developer with your specific problem, it may be easily fixed!

I see. I will mail to Frank.
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: PatchWorKs on 2003-05-02 11:12:38
1. I don't want be negative, but i must remember to all RareWares' admins that mp3 (LAME) and aac (FAAC) binaries are *illegal* in many countries (USA too).

2. Is possible to see some player on RareWares ? (CoolPlayer P4?)

3. What about SoX (http://sox.sf.net/) ?

About non-audio stuff: it would be very nice if you'll put VP3 and XviD P4 compiles on your website !!!
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: AstralStorm on 2003-05-02 11:33:18
I suggest a section called Players rather than putting them into Links.
Will be much easier to find.
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: glauco on 2003-05-02 11:57:44
No more complaints.

This new font is much more legible, at least in my machine 
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: 2Bdecided on 2003-05-02 11:58:31
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This new font is much more legible, at least in my machine 

Ditto!
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: john33 on 2003-05-02 12:30:25
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1. I don't want be negative, but i must remember to all RareWares' admins that mp3 (LAME) and aac (FAAC) binaries are *illegal* in many countries (USA too).

2. Is possible to see some player on RareWares ? (CoolPlayer P4?)

3. What about SoX (http://sox.sf.net/) ?

About non-audio stuff: it would be very nice if you'll put VP3 and XviD P4 compiles on your website !!!

The aac binaries are actually located at Roberto's old server in Brazil!!

I also hosted LAME binaries on my site in the UK, where the same comment would apply, and I noticed the odd visit from Fraunhoffer but I never received any unpleasant emails!!
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: [JAZ] on 2003-05-02 12:48:06
@John33/rc55 :

See the "News" Page, and then see any other page ( MP3, mpeg4 ). Do you see anything wrong with the text? Isn't it harder to read?

In the news page, you've put a separation and indentation between the title and the description of each news.
I suggest you do so for every page.
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: AstralStorm on 2003-05-02 13:08:14
Nope, either it's fixed or you use a caching proxy.
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: bluewer than blue on 2003-05-02 13:28:33
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Nope, either it's fixed or you use a caching proxy.

I agree with [JAZ]...the format used in the News section is far better for the eye, considering that it leaves more spaces between the different "paragraphs", compared to the program pages. Since the latter uses also Italics, it makes it a little bit harder to read. Other than that, the new font is really a far better choice 
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: AstralStorm on 2003-05-02 13:41:36
I see Verdana normal for text, bold for titles, italic for hyperlinks...
Nothing specially unreadable.

Only a tiny bit more space between cells (not on main page) would be nice.
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: bluewer than blue on 2003-05-02 13:43:33
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Only a tiny bit more space between fields (not on main page) would be nice.

That's what I'm suggesting as well...it would make the text far more easier to read.
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: rjamorim on 2003-05-05 03:30:17
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1. I don't want be negative, but i must remember to all RareWares' admins that mp3 (LAME) and aac (FAAC) binaries are *illegal* in many countries (USA too).

As John already pointed out, AAC binaries are being hosted in the nicest (regarding patents) country ever.

Some disclaimer will probably be welcome, though.

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2. Is possible to see some player on RareWares ? (CoolPlayer P4?)


You can easily find it somewhere else? Then it doesn't really belongs to RareWares.

Although, of course, that rule can change now that I have more web space. I had to be very economic on space usage when I was limited to 15Mb.

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3. What about SoX (http://sox.sf.net/) ?


Same thing. Or are you asking for an ICL compile? Then, it's definitely possible.

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About non-audio stuff: it would be very nice if you'll put VP3 and XviD P4 compiles on your website !!!


About XviD: I don't really want to compete with Nic and Koepi. I guess their compiles are already pretty much optimized for P4 already.

About VP3: Sure, as soon as there is more demand. BTW, are you talking about VP3 or Theora?
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: rjamorim on 2003-05-05 04:56:23
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On another topic, i don't wan't to sound picky and i may be completly wrong about this an missunderstood what was being implied but doesn't hte RareWares FAQ break the Hydrogenaudio Terms of Service? See below:

Well, it actually is a very useful piece of text. You guys won't believe the amount of e-mails I used to get asking me where to download retail versions of CoolEdit, FhG MP3enc, WaveLab and even some advanced DirectX filters (everyone here knows I'm a Waves fan). After I added this little piece of "information", the flow of warez request e-mails nearly stopped.

Besides, I don't do a complete description on how to reach WebSound from there. "search for Aradzish" is as vague as I can get.

But sure, if the admins find that FAQ entry inappropiate, I will promptly delete it.

Regards;

R.
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: [XneCorp]Flash on 2003-05-05 07:06:04
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parabéns roberto  


I'd use the same words, but....
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Sorry, we speak english here. TOS point 10.



Anyway, congratulations! nice page!
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: rjamorim on 2003-05-05 07:45:29
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Flash,May 5 2003 - 03:06 AM]
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parabéns roberto  


I'd use the same words, but....
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Sorry, we speak english here. TOS point 10.



Anyway, congratulations! nice page!

Thank you very much, [XneCorp]Flash, marteataca, LIF and all the other non-brazilians that are supporting me/us.

@kritip: Dibrom very politely asked me to remove FAQ entry #4, so it's now gone.
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: AstralStorm on 2003-05-05 13:01:44
May I ask you again to add alternate text to images?
The webpage is hard to browse using a text browser...
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: Vector on 2003-05-05 13:30:32
The LamedropXPd download link on the MP3 page links to file "lamedropXPd-a.zip" which doesn't exist. Apparently it should link to "lamedropXPd-3.90.3.zip". Other than that, great work. 
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: john33 on 2003-05-05 14:15:58
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May I ask you again to add alternate text to images?
The webpage is hard to browse using a text browser...

OK, can you tell me whether that works for you now?
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: john33 on 2003-05-05 14:16:43
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The LamedropXPd download link on the MP3 page links to file "lamedropXPd-a.zip" which doesn't exist. Apparently it should link to "lamedropXPd-3.90.3.zip". Other than that, great work. 

Thanks for letting me know. It's fixed now.
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: AstralStorm on 2003-05-05 14:27:09
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May I ask you again to add alternate text to images?
The webpage is hard to browse using a text browser...

OK, can you tell me whether that works for you now? 

Now it looks as good as HydrogenAudio - which means great.

EDIT: Only thing you've missed: the 'More Info' picture.
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: /\/ephaestous on 2003-05-05 14:45:27
First, aradzish doesn't have warez in his site anymore!

Second, John33 YOUR AVATAR IST 404 :[
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: john33 on 2003-05-05 14:53:06
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EDIT: Only thing you've missed: the 'More Info' picture.

Thanks, I've just corrected that.
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: john33 on 2003-05-05 14:56:44
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Second, John33 YOUR AVATAR IST 404 :[

Thanks, I just fixed it!!
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: rjamorim on 2003-05-05 15:45:19
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First, aradzish doesn't have warez in his site anymore!

He has. But only for people downloading from russian domains. That's why you can't reach the download pages through anywhere else.

I'll refrain from saying how to circumvent that, but it's pretty easy, actually.
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: JohnV on 2003-05-05 15:52:16
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First, aradzish doesn't have warez in his site anymore!

He has. But only for people downloading from russian domains. That's why you can't reach the download pages through anywhere else.

This kind of warez discussion is not appreciated. And it is very close to breaking the rules.
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: n68 on 2003-05-06 11:08:20
yup...


++
maybe i have missed it.. maybe not..

is there any chance of having a direct link to RW..
on the HA portal.. 


Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: acid-art on 2003-05-06 15:38:33
Is it possible to link libmmd.dll with in_faad and in_aac Winamp plugins statically? That would be really great.

Thanks.

p.s. Sorry if posted into wrong place. Is there proper forum to discuss RareWares compilations?
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: john33 on 2003-05-06 15:59:48
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Is it possible to link libmmd.dll with in_faad and in_aac Winamp plugins statically? That would be really great.

Thanks.

p.s. Sorry if posted into wrong place. Is there proper forum to discuss RareWares compilations?

If you download these ones, they don't use libmmd at all: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/jfe1205/faad_plugins.zip (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/jfe1205/faad_plugins.zip)
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: X-Fixer on 2003-05-07 05:02:58
Oh, I see my FLAC plug-in there!  B)
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: rjamorim on 2003-05-07 05:38:07
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Oh, I see my FLAC plug-in there!  B)

Thank Annuka. He suggested it.
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: acid-art on 2003-05-07 08:56:48
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If you download these ones, they don't use libmmd at all: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/jfe1205/faad_plugins.zip (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/jfe1205/faad_plugins.zip)

Thanks a lot.
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: Wizard on 2003-05-17 12:35:14
I can't access Psytel ACC encoder or FAAC binaries (or anything linking to Roberto's space), 403 status code 
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: john33 on 2003-05-17 14:03:32
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I can't access Psytel ACC encoder or FAAC binaries (or anything linking to Roberto's space), 403 status code 

All the aac stuff is hosted on Roberto's old RareWares server in Brazil. This is screwed ATM and most likely won't be fixed before Monday.
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: yotsuya-san on 2003-06-01 01:48:34
Why there isn't LameDrop (not ...XPd) anymore?
Title: Hydrogenaudio to host RareWares
Post by: john33 on 2003-06-01 15:37:12
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Why there isn't LameDrop (not ...XPd) anymore?

Hmmm, that looks like an error!! If Roberto doesn't fix in the next few hours, I'll update it.