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Title: foobar2000 v0.9.5.4 beta 3
Post by: Frank Bicking on 2008-06-22 22:09:54
foobar2000 v0.9.5.4 beta has been released.

Change log:
Download: http://foobar2000.org/beta/ (http://foobar2000.org/beta/)

Issues fixed in beta 3:Issues fixed in beta 2:
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.5.4 beta 3
Post by: kanak on 2008-06-22 22:30:45
  • Ability to view/edit queries used to create autoplaylists.
  • New built-in DSPs: Crossfader, Skip Silence.


WOHOO!

As always, thanks to the developers for the fine work they're doing... we'd be lost without them.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.5.4 beta 3
Post by: Sounds Blast on 2008-06-22 22:33:42
Security updates to Vorbis, Speex, FLAC and WavPack libraries.
Are these major?, any which way, i will upgrade, thanks.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.5.4 beta 3
Post by: odyssey on 2008-06-22 23:23:31
  • Ability to view/edit queries used to create autoplaylists.
Great! Thanks
  • New built-in DSPs: Crossfader, Skip Silence.
Feature request:
Could it have the ability to remove all silence (until threshold is reached) in beginning and end of track?
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.5.4 beta 3
Post by: Sphix on 2008-06-22 23:47:54
Album list one left click don't send the selected artist to current playlist anymore?
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.5.4 beta 3
Post by: Spirit_of_the_ocean on 2008-06-22 23:52:15
Sorry for asking has this discussion board a bug? I am seeing 4 replies but 0 views.

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  • Ability to view/edit queries used to create autoplaylists.


Are there screenshots? I don't understand how to view queries...
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.5.4 beta 3
Post by: Byron86 on 2008-06-22 23:56:58
  • Ability to view/edit queries used to create autoplaylists.

Coool, this is what I was waiting for...

It would also be nice, if the Autoplaylists would be more noticeable...
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.5.4 beta 3
Post by: aphasia on 2008-06-23 00:05:24
Sorry for asking has this discussion board a bug? I am seeing 4 replies but 0 views.

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  • Ability to view/edit queries used to create autoplaylists.


Are there screenshots? I don't understand how to view queries...


Go to playlist manager, right click and select configure lock. A feature I had been really waiting for. Working well so far. Much appreciated.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.5.4 beta 3
Post by: Yirkha on 2008-06-23 00:55:14
Security updates to Vorbis, Speex, FLAC and WavPack libraries.
Are these major?
Sure, ranging from random crashes to 0.5 GB memory leaks.

Album list one left click don't send the selected artist to current playlist anymore?
Confirmed. It's only a temporary bug in the beta version.

Sorry for asking has this discussion board a bug? I am seeing 4 replies but 0 views.
The view count is cached (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cache), obviously.

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I don't understand how to view queries...
Go to playlist manager, right click and select configure lock.
For those who use playlist tabs, the command to view/edit autoplaylist query is available in the right-click context menu for each tab as well.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.5.4 beta 3
Post by: odyssey on 2008-06-23 00:59:54
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I don't understand how to view queries...
Go to playlist manager, right click and select configure lock.
For those who use playlist tabs, the command to view/edit autoplaylist query is available in the right-click context menu for each tab as well.
And for those not using Default UI there are no option to edit them? That's kinda silly, when they can be created independently of UI.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.5.4 beta 3
Post by: aphasia on 2008-06-23 01:12:54

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I don't understand how to view queries...
Go to playlist manager, right click and select configure lock.
For those who use playlist tabs, the command to view/edit autoplaylist query is available in the right-click context menu for each tab as well.
And for those not using Default UI there are no option to edit them? That's kinda silly, when they can be created independently of UI.

No, I am using ColumnsUI and the method I described works fine.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.5.4 beta 3
Post by: Yirkha on 2008-06-23 01:25:48
And for those not using Default UI there are no option to edit them [autoplaylists]? That's kinda silly, when they can be created independently of UI.
If your preferred user interface does not provide you any way to access standard functionality, you should blame nobody else but the author of that UI.

ETA: Of course, I'm correcting mainly the overall bad reasoning here. It'll just need some time till the new functionality is added to third party components, this is just a beta preview after all.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.5.4 beta 3
Post by: DotNoir on 2008-06-23 01:28:51
But there is a way... View->Playlist manager
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.5.4 beta 3
Post by: shakey_snake on 2008-06-23 02:29:06
Awesome. You guys rock.

Is there any reason a couple of autoplaylists' queries wouldn't be viewable?

Also, Is there any possibility of an "Album list branch autoplaylist" displaying the name of the Album list View it was created from?
Sometimes just the name of the branch node isn't the most helpful.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.5.4 beta 3
Post by: DocBeard on 2008-06-23 03:22:39
Has anyone successfully added a sort string to an autoplaylist created off an Album List view? I had an 'All Music' playlist that, when I tried to add a sort string, it completely erased the playlist. (By which I mean, I still had a playlist afterwards, but it had no entries. )

I have repeatedly duplicated this by selecting the top branch from the Album List, creating an autoplaylist, and then adding a sort string. (What the string was does not seem to matter.)

I've played with this some more since initially writing this post, and it appears that editing the sort order of autoplaylists does not really work very well. Additionally, at least one search query type in general seems to be broken. Things I've observed:

1) Create an autoplaylist from an Album List view. Insert a sort pattern (the one I used was 'title' though I've tried others. The result is a completely empty playlist no matter what sort string I try.

2) Generate an autoplaylist from Library Search without a SORT BY string at the end of the query. (For example: NOT title MISSING.) Insert a sort pattern. This neither locks the playlist order (as an auto-sorted playlist would) nor does it change the order of the playlist. Again, the pattern itself appears to make little difference.

3) Generate an autoplaylist from Library Search with a SORT BY string. (My example: NOT title MISSING SORT BY %title%.) This *does* properly (as far as I can tell) create a playlist that is auto-sorted. However, the SORT BY string stays in the query pattern box rather than being reflected in the sort pattern box below. (Which, admittedly, is not a big deal.) Furthermore, adding a sort pattern to the appropriate box *does* change the playlist order in this case, but it appears to completely override the sort in the 'SORT BY' string at the end of the playlist query. (Which, again, is not terribly disastrous.) Editing the SORT BY string in the playlist still works (provided there's no sort pattern below), and removing the SORT BY string does not make it an unlocked-sort autoplaylist.

4) Open Library Search and type in 'title HAS <whatever>'. (I used title HAS candy for this example.) In 9.5.3 it correctly pulled up all songs with the word 'candy' in the title. Here, it completely freezes for about 30 seconds or so, and the results it gives are...I'm honestly not sure what rhyme or reason there is to them, but it appears to have nothing to do with the presence or absense of 'hidden' in the title. This appears to happen every time you do a query with the HAS operator.

(Further Edit, just so's this isn't all doom and gloom): So *that's* what a crossfader does! Awesome!
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.5.4 beta 3
Post by: odyssey on 2008-06-23 07:16:42

And for those not using Default UI there are no option to edit them [autoplaylists]? That's kinda silly, when they can be created independently of UI.
If your preferred user interface does not provide you any way to access standard functionality, you should blame nobody else but the author of that UI.
Overwrite 0.9.5.4 Default UI with 0.9.5.3's. Observe that autoplaylist editing funcationality is now not present in the Default UI playlist tabs. Are you saying autoplaylists are actually implemented in the Default UI or are you just trolling?

I didn't know the Playlist Manager. Thanks
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.5.4 beta 3
Post by: foosion on 2008-06-23 07:44:26
1) Create an autoplaylist from an Album List view. Insert a sort pattern (the one I used was 'title' though I've tried others. The result is a completely empty playlist no matter what sort string I try.
Do you mean like this:
(http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/5406/albumlistpropertiessri8.png)
Note that there is only a Filter string. When I try to use a SORT BY expression there, it shows an error message that custom sorting is not supported there.

4) Open Library Search and type in 'title HAS <whatever>'. (I used title HAS candy for this example.) In 9.5.3 it correctly pulled up all songs with the word 'candy' in the title. Here, it completely freezes for about 30 seconds or so, and the results it gives are...I'm honestly not sure what rhyme or reason there is to them, but it appears to have nothing to do with the presence or absense of 'hidden' in the title. This appears to happen every time you do a query with the HAS operator.
Reproduced.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.5.4 beta 3
Post by: Lodl on 2008-06-23 09:49:32
Editable autoplaylists: Great.

Maybe some day you can add conditional crossfader options? Crossfading depending on the playback order.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.5.4 beta 3
Post by: odyssey on 2008-06-23 11:15:38
Editable autoplaylists: Great.

Maybe some day you can add conditional crossfader options? Crossfading depending on the playback order.

Actually I would like conditional everything. I don't know if it's possible, but if it is, it would be great if you could control settings based on events.

It's on my todo list - Unfortunately i know zero about fb2k SDK and not much about C++ yet
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.5.4 beta 3
Post by: foosion on 2008-06-23 11:51:46
Moderation: Posts about the confusion with autoplaylist and playlist lock APIs split to separate thread (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=64174).
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.5.4 beta 3
Post by: gate1975mlm on 2008-06-23 13:14:39
Can you add the "Noise Sharpening" plug in also to New built-in DSPs?

Thanks 
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.5.4 beta 3
Post by: DocBeard on 2008-06-23 15:16:59
Do you mean like this:
(http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/5406/albumlistpropertiessri8.png)
Note that there is only a Filter string. When I try to use a SORT BY expression there, it shows an error message that custom sorting is not supported there.


Aha! That makes a little more sense (and I probably should have noticed that it was a filter string, not a sort string). Sorry.

It still appears to me that if an autoplaylist isn't created so that it is automatically sorted, that automatic sorting cannot be added to it later on. Is this accurate?
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.5.4 beta 3
Post by: Xezzy on 2008-06-23 15:30:43
It would also be nice, if the Autoplaylists would be more noticeable...


Same here. But thats one thing. Im waiting for tree based playlist, or at least organized in folders.
Great release, ty dev team.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.5.4 beta 3
Post by: q-stankovic on 2008-06-23 17:39:44
Thanks for the crossfader! May i ask for a simple toggle on/off menu item under main menu -> playback wich lets you quickly (assigned to hotkey or button) switch on and off the crossfader when it is enabled by dsp manager.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.5.4 beta 3
Post by: Mar2zz on 2008-06-23 19:36:50
The new autoplaylist feature is really great! Saves me a lot of hassle when I want to tweak one, was waiting for it since I discovered this great autoplaylistfeature.

One thing about playlists though, saving them to m3u or fpl always leaves the name blank in savewindow, why isn't the playlistsname filled by default for that? Would be a nice feature. (also save all playlists at once with their names intact...).
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.5.4 beta 3
Post by: dhromed on 2008-06-23 20:02:10
Feature request:
Could it have the ability to remove all silence (until threshold is reached) in beginning and end of track?


You mean physically trim the file?

Unless the mp3 format supports some form of lossless editing -- like JPEG with its 8x8 blocks -- I'd say no, it can't have that ability. :\

Though it possibly not an issue with lossless formats, or different compression schemes such as ogg. I really couldn't say.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.5.4 beta 3
Post by: odyssey on 2008-06-23 22:54:00
Thanks for the crossfader! May i ask for a simple toggle on/off menu item under main menu -> playback wich lets you quickly (assigned to hotkey or button) switch on and off the crossfader when it is enabled by dsp manager.

I would prefer DSP presets to be availble through the menus. This could also accomplish g-stankovic's request.

Feature request:
Could it have the ability to remove all silence (until threshold is reached) in beginning and end of track?
You mean physically trim the file?

Unless the mp3 format supports some form of lossless editing -- like JPEG with its 8x8 blocks -- I'd say no, it can't have that ability. :\
You do realise that foobar2000 is a player and my request is an addition to an implemented DSP component, right? Otherwise I could have used mptrim and wavtrim if I wanted to tamper my collection in a lossy way. - But eventually this request will add that feature, if one wanted to convert a bunch of files and trim them as well (could be a nice feature for creating compilation cd's)
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.5.4 beta 3
Post by: Melomane on 2008-06-24 04:55:37
jriver media jukebox, album player, Rithmbox use:

"no crossfader between subsequent tracks of one album"

it can be considerate add this features?
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.5.4 beta 3
Post by: Frank Bicking on 2008-06-24 15:43:08
I have split several unrelated discussions to individual threads:

Problem switching between playlist groups (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=64201)
How to create autoplaylists (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=64200)
Using title formatting in autoplaylist queries (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=64198)
Converter interface suggestions (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=64199)
File Operations suggestion: replace existing files (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=64197)

Please try to keep the noise level low, so that bug reports and requests related to changes in the beta won't go unnoticed.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.5.4 beta 3
Post by: halabund on 2008-06-25 08:46:31
Feature request:

This is a very minor thing and I understand that different people may have different tastes in this matter.

Request: Please make the Remove from Playback Queue menu item remove only the last instance of a multiply queued track.  This way it would be more convenient to correct mistakes where one has accidentally queued a track several times.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.5.4 beta 3
Post by: Cutter on 2008-06-25 09:14:56
Request: Please make the Remove from Playback Queue menu item remove only the last instance of a multiply queued track.  This way it would be more convenient to correct mistakes where one has accidentally queued a track several times.

I wouldn't like that. You would have to repeat the clicking several times to completely remove an item from the playback queue.
However a keyboard shortcut action with this behaviour would be nice.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.5.4 beta 3
Post by: eevan on 2008-06-25 09:43:25
I've noticed that "Open Containing Folder" is not working.

I don't know if this is a bug with 0.9.5.4 beta 2 or some problem with my system, so I'd appreciate if someone else try to reproduce it.

Thanks!
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.5.4 beta 3
Post by: Yirkha on 2008-06-25 09:52:43
Request: Please make the Remove from Playback Queue menu item remove only the last instance of a multiply queued track.  This way it would be more convenient to correct mistakes where one has accidentally queued a track several times.
Standard reply: Use teh search. (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=64129&hl=)


I've noticed that "Open Containing Folder" is not working.
The internal way how it works has changed, for details see this topic (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=62742). The only difference I'm aware of is that it does nothing whereas the target path does not exist anymore, when the old implementation opened a dummy window of Desktop or something like that. I doubt your directory has disappeared, though - would you mind posting the whole path of the file on which you are trying to use the command?
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.5.4 beta 3
Post by: eevan on 2008-06-25 15:15:47
…I doubt your directory has disappeared, though - would you mind posting the whole path of the file on which you are trying to use the command?
Sure, here it is: D:\TEMP\Tmp\1_10 - Track_10.mpc

I play that file, the directory is there for sure
I tried the command on many files in different folders, and it's not working. Maybe it has nothing to do with foobar...
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.5.4 beta 3
Post by: Leak on 2008-06-25 16:04:47
For me, "Open containing folder" ultimately ends up running

Code: [Select]
"C:\WIXP\system32\rundll32.exe" C:\WIXP\system32\shell32.dll,OpenAs_RunDLL "F:\MP3s\New\13 & God-13 & God"

which opens an "Open with..." selection dialog, which is also not what I would expect.

Unless I'm very mistaken older versions of foobar just opened Windows Explorer in that folder - shouldn't it simply be calling SHOpenFolderAndSelectItems from shell32.dll?
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.5.4 beta 3
Post by: Frank Bicking on 2008-06-25 16:41:13
Had to split even more posts:

ReplayGain suggestion: on/off button, view current status (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=64225)
Suggestion: delete artwork alongside with the album (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=64230)
Scanning for new media library items (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=64234)

It looks like people misleadingly believe that bringing things up in here will increase their chances of getting a particular feature implemented. That is not the case. The period between beta and final is reserved for making corrections to changes introduced with the new version, in order to release a bug-free final after a week or two. Development and brainstorming on other ideas does not take place in this time.

So again, please do not spam this beta thread with completely unrelated questions or suggestions.

Rule of thumb: When in doubt, start a new topic.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.5.4 beta 3
Post by: musicmusic on 2008-06-25 16:59:36
Unless I'm very mistaken older versions of foobar just opened Windows Explorer in that folder - shouldn't it simply be calling SHOpenFolderAndSelectItems from shell32.dll?
I believe it does, but it's in turn doing that for some reason ? 

Does "Find target.."/"Open file location" on shortcut properties work for you two?
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.5.4 beta 3
Post by: eevan on 2008-06-25 22:38:05
No. When I click on the "Find target.." for any shortcut, nothing happens!

It's interesting that "Open Containing Folder" worked a few days ago, before I upgraded to the new beta.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.5.4 beta 3
Post by: Leak on 2008-06-25 22:48:30
Unless I'm very mistaken older versions of foobar just opened Windows Explorer in that folder - shouldn't it simply be calling SHOpenFolderAndSelectItems from shell32.dll?
I believe it does, but it's in turn doing that for some reason ? 

Does "Find target.."/"Open file location" on shortcut properties work for you two?

D'oh...  *slaps self*

That'll teach me to set the "(Default)" value of HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Folder\shell to "explore" and not "explorer" - should've thought of checking that sooner...

I've done that hundreds of times before (okay, tens of times) and managed to do it without tyops - until now...

But I wouldn't be surprised if there was something amiss near that registry key in eevan's case as well.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.5.4 beta 3
Post by: ExUser on 2008-06-26 00:33:27
Mid30s' request has been split here (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=64241).

Quote
So again, please do not spam this beta thread with completely unrelated questions or suggestions.

Rule of thumb: When in doubt, start a new topic.


Also, please read the topics you're posting to.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.5.4 beta 3
Post by: kpz on 2008-06-27 14:41:15
  • New built-in DSPs: Crossfader, Skip Silence.


hooray!
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.5.4 beta 3
Post by: DocBeard on 2008-06-27 14:45:41
Out of curiousity, was the Replaygain scanner updated at all in the recent beta? It seems to be scanning a good bit faster for me these days (though it's possible that my recent culling of a bunch of components I don't use any more might have something to do with that too).

In any event, I quite like the new beta. Thanks, guys!
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.5.4 beta 3
Post by: 2E7AH on 2008-06-27 23:28:49
Skip Silence uses too much processor power
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.5.4 beta 3
Post by: ArchCarrier on 2008-06-28 00:18:51
  • Ability to view/edit queries used to create autoplaylists.
  • Album List: ability to select multiple items at once by holding shift or control keys.
  • New built-in DSPs: Crossfader, Skip Silence.

Thank you! Such small but invaluable changes!

  • Media Library Search: queries using “SORT BY” create always-sorted autoplaylists by default.

Maybe I'm missing something, but this doesn't work as I would expect. One of my autoplaylists is sorted by date. If I change the date of one of the albums in that playlist, the order doesn't change. Shouldn't the album move to its new position whenever a sorted-by field has changed? (I have "create always-sorted autoplaylists" checked on in the preferences, by the way.)
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.5.4 beta 3
Post by: Cutter on 2008-06-28 20:27:39
Maybe I'm missing something, but this doesn't work as I would expect. One of my autoplaylists is sorted by date. If I change the date of one of the albums in that playlist, the order doesn't change. Shouldn't the album move to its new position whenever a sorted-by field has changed? (I have "create always-sorted autoplaylists" checked on in the preferences, by the way.)
Does the order change if you edit the sorting pattern in the "Sorting pattern" field instead of using a SORT BY query?

Works in beta 3.

Is the "Force-sorted" checkbox necessary? When I don't want the playlist to be sorted I leave the "Sorting pattern" field blank.
Title: foobar2000 v0.9.5.4 beta 3
Post by: ArchCarrier on 2008-06-28 23:00:42
Works in beta 3.

Confirmed! Thank you.