[span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%']Please see this thread (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=36635) for further announcements regarding foobar2000 0.9 beta.[/span]
A beta version of foobar2000 v0.9 is available for public testing.
The installer will be be offered as bittorrent download exclusively for the first days to preserve server capacities. Later on, it will also be available as conventional HTTP download.
Further beta releases / 0.9 final release dateNeither the release date for the next beta nor the number of betas before v0.9 final is known at this point. We can understand that people are anxious to play with new stuff, but please be patient and don't clog this thread up with questions about release dates. All you're going to get is the canonical "When it's done" answer.
You will be informed whenever a new version is released.
Compatility with previous versionsComponents made for v0.8.3 and older will no longer load.
Public SDKAn SDK will be released to the public after foobar2000 v0.9 goes final. This is to simplify bugfixing by ensuring that the bugs and issues people report are all related to / caused by foobar2000 and its official components themselves and not unexpected behaviour of third party components.
FeedbackPlease use separate threads for different issues. The thread title should give a good idea about the contents of the thread and contain a hint that it is about the 0.9 beta.
Installation notes- Please install into a clean directory.
- Disable “per-user settings” in the installer if you want to keep your old configuration. The configuration file is not compatible with v0.8.3 and older.
Requirementsfoobar2000 v0.9 beta requires a Unicode capable version of the Windows operating system. It will not work on Windows 95, 98 or ME.
Downloads linksfoobar2000 v0.9 beta 6
Download normal version (http://foobar2000.org/foobar2000_0.9%20beta%206.exe)
Download full version (currently not available)
Official beta page (http://www.foobar2000.org/beta.html)
Components in normal version- Default User Interface
- Standard input array
- Standard DSP array
- Album List
- Converter [span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'](formerly known as Diskwriter)[/span]
- Masstagger
- ReplayGain Scanner
Components in full version- all components from the normal version, plus
- ABX comparator
- AC3 decoder
- ALAC decoder
- Archive reader (supports 7-Zip, RAR, ZIP, GZIP)
- Audio CD writer
- Autoplaylist
- CD Audio decoder
- Crossfeed DSP
- Database search
- DUMB module decoder
- DXi MIDI synthesizer host
- Festalon
- Game Emu Player
- OggPreview
- sidplay2
- Utilities
New features (incomplete)
- Improved playlist management: all playlists are editable without being active, multiple playlists with the same name, Autoplaylists
- Field remappings in titleformat scripts: see Titleformat Introduction (http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=Foobar2000:Titleformat_Introduction) and Titleformat Reference (http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=Foobar2000:Titleformat_Reference) for details
- Tag merging: combines information from multiple tag formats on the same file
- ID3v2 support with padding for fast tag updates
- Cleaned-up preferences
- On-line help system for preferences pages (uses the HA wiki)
- Playback queue (contents are currently not viewable)
- Instantaneous volume changes
- User interface selection: if a new user interface is detected at start-up, you can chose which one to use
- File type associations editor in preferences
- Ability to reset individual pages in preferences (if supported by the component that provides the page)
- Enhanced playlist generator syntax; also used in other components like Autoplaylist (details (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=36628))
- ...
At last!
Yay. Now I can finally start updating the Preferences Wiki pages!
Sorry for a possible dumb question, but what changed?
Beautiful, thanks
Works for me, thanks to the dev team!
It looks like a very good news !! Thanks for this new version !
OK, added a list of some of the new features and links to the new titleformat introduction and reference. Your old scripts should continue to work.
Would it be possible for someone to upload it somewhere. I don't use bittorent myself (i'm on 56k), and I'd hate to install a client just to get foobar. I can probably upload it to my ISP space if needed.
Eeerm. Is there a changelog anywhere?
EDIT: I'm just blind, ignore me.
EDIT #2: So, all further releases will be XP/2K only then?
So, all further releases will be XP/2K only then?[a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=299549"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]
That has not been decided yet.
On-line help system for preferences pages (uses the HA wiki)
This is an extremely good idea.
richter: I'm not sure if publicly mirroring this sort of thing is encouraged, so I'll PM it to you instead.
richter: I'm not sure if publicly mirroring this sort of thing is encouraged, so I'll PM it to you instead.
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Thanks! If developers permit I can upload it somewhere as well for those who don't use bittorrent.
I don't think I'm gonna get much work done today anymore.. Thank you.
Sorry for a possible dumb question, but what changed?
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I think it'd be almost easier to mention what hasn't changed.
This sounds great - thanks to all those involved!
Picking up on comments by foosion and BenniP, is it possible to run 0.8.3 alongside 0.9 beta 3 on Windows XP under the same user profile?
Also, what is the projected timescale for the final version or the SDK? I'm fond of my plugin collection
Oh, and for richter or anyone else that might find this useful, here's an ED2K link for the full version download:
ed2k://|file|foobar2000_0.9b3_full.exe|2020963|5F8CEB64FF64371F72F024DCD1F6EF46|h=IVL6NBZFVO3LWFE4XF5HZ55Y7
W2UWYB2|/ (http://ed2k://|file|foobar2000_0.9b3_full.exe|2020963|5F8CEB64FF64371F72F024DCD1F6EF46|h=IVL6NBZFVO3LWFE4XF5HZ55Y7W2UWYB2|/)
Without a working SDK, how do we port/recompile those outdated modules?
The release of the SDK has been delayed to prevent potentially glitchy recompiled modules from causing bug reports until 0.9 is out of beta.
Picking up on comments by foosion and BenniP, is it possible to run 0.8.3 alongside 0.9 beta 3 on Windows XP under the same user profile?
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Yes it is possible. New version will install in foobar2000 0.9 beta folder.
Also, what is the projected timescale for the final version or the SDK? I'm fond of my plugin collection
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I personally don't know but Peter is usually quick with this sort of thing. This is early beta and I'm sure SDK is to follow in later betas. I hope Case will be able to recompile some of the plugins soon.
Edit: Read post above. It does make sense because most of so called bugs are usually due to third party plugins.
Oh, and for richter or anyone else that might find this useful, here's an ED2K link for the full version download:
[a href="http://ed2k://|file|foobar2000_0.9b3_full.exe|2020963|5F8CEB64FF64371F72F024DCD1F6EF46|h=IVL6NBZFVO3LWFE4XF5HZ55Y7W2UWYB2|/]ed2k://|file|foobar2000_0.9b3_full.exe|2020963|5F8CEB64FF64371F72F024DCD1F6EF46|h=IVL6NBZFVO3LWFE4XF5HZ55Y7
W2UWYB2|/[/url]
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Thanks.
Just downloaded it. The preferences seem a little more organized, which helps out big time with usability.
Biggest issue I have right now is that Foobar still doesn't play iTunes Music Store files. Good news is, this is a beta and by past Foobar history the first of many. Hopefully it is added in the future.
So, all further releases will be XP/2K only then?[a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=299549"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]
That has not been decided yet.
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i reckon it should......... don't find a reason to continue to use Win98.... ( apart from the computer being slower than PII 233 )
Question...will we be able to select our mode of output?
Seems like the database is always enabled, but you now have to specify what folders are to be included.
Edit: Field remappings are a brilliant idea. Thanks to whoever thought that up. For example, $if2(%album artist%,%artist%) is no longer required. You can just use %album artist%. If it doesn't find an %album artist% tag, it looks for a %artist% tag. Brilliant.
Seems like the database is always enabled, but you now have to specify what folders are to be included.
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I would LOVE to see folder exclusion rules (for subfolders of included folders).
Alright I'm getting some serious distortion when I try to play anything in 16bit. Changing to 24bit works fine.
XP service pack 2, Soundstorm 5.1 onboard sound.
Also, the new volume control seems to be very exponential in its shape, perhaps a little too much so? All the volume changes from 100% back to what appears to be very close to 0% occur in the top 20% (alright lets say 40-50% instead...) of the volume slider.
Also, the new volume control seems to be very exponential in its shape, perhaps a little too much so?
This has always been the case with the volume control DSP.
Also, the new volume control seems to be very exponential in its shape, perhaps a little too much so?
This has always been the case with the volume control DSP.
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Well it seems a little bit of a waste doesn't it? 50% of the slider is useless this way, and any fine adjustment in the latter ranges of the volume become more difficult.
Also, the new volume control seems to be very exponential in its shape, perhaps a little too much so? All the volume changes from 100% back to what appears to be very close to 0% occur in the top 20% (alright lets say 40-50% instead...) of the volume slider.
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It is very much non-exponential. It alters the gain linearly using a scale of decibels. You don't get more perceptually linear than that.
This has always been the case with the volume control DSP.
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Volume is not DSP component anymore.
Also, the new volume control seems to be very exponential in its shape, perhaps a little too much so?
This has always been the case with the volume control DSP.
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As I understand it, mathematically it is linear. You can blame the human ear for making it
sound like it's not.
Edit: I was to slow, Canar beat me to it.
0.9 beta is working very well so far. Field remapping sounds interesting. I'll have to check with some of my improperly and untagged files.
The menu items are perfect, IMHO. I can't wait for the final release.
Also, the new volume control seems to be very exponential in its shape, perhaps a little too much so?
This has always been the case with the volume control DSP.
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As I understand it, mathematically it is linear. You can blame the human ear for making it sound like it's not.
Edit: I was to slow, Canar beat me to it.
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Well alright, its mathematically linear, yet sounds exponential... The end user isn't gonna care what its doing mathematically, he's only gonna care what it sounds like right?
And anyway, why does it matter what the DSP used to do? As far as it goes, its a waste leaving half of the slider there doing absolutely nothing apart from dropping the volume ever further beyond the hearing range.
Edit: And is anyone else getting distortion when playing at 16bit???
Deal with it. Most high end audio systems work on the decibel system. So does foobar2000.
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Well, he is right, that for normal listening (so, when its not about audio-editing and DSPs) changing the volume in non-linear steps is more natural and intuitive. However, i dont really see this as such a big deal if it works in linear steps. If that is the primary problem of fb2k, then things are in pretty good shape ;)
edit: the field-remappings are a great idea. It will probably mean lots of initial work for me, but make things easier and more clean in the long-run.
- Lyx
Deal with it. Most high end audio systems work on the decibel system. So does foobar2000, has done since it's inception, and will continue to do so.
Edit 1: On the distortion issue. I get no distortion at 16-bit/24-bit using an Audigy 2 Platinum Pro on Windows XP MCE 2005.
Edit 2: Playback does stop periodically though, in the middle of a song. foobar2000 says it's still playing, but the playback slider is not moving, and no sound comes out of the speaker. Out of curiosity, what output method does this beta use. DirectSound I presume?
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lol I already dealt with volume issues long ago when I started using foobar, using the system wave volume instead. It's only because its a new feature that I thought i would mention the lack of any audible change over the last 50% of the slider. But meh if its only gonna stir up the hornets nest, I'll leave be.
And on the distortion issue, weird. Its definitely the only program I've seen that distorts like that, there def a problem somewhere.
And yes I've also noticed that stepping issue as well.
So is autoplaylist built in? I don't see it as a plugin. One thing I would like to see added to it is the ability to just have it create a new playlist rather than having to create a playlist outside of it to "take over."
foo_autoplaylist.dll?
I also would like the ability to create a new playlist as apposed to taking over an old one.
BTW you can get normal and full from beta news now!! Direct http download.
For those who need it.
hmmm. It seems that this foo_autoplaylist.dll and a few others weren't showing up under "components." Looks like it doesn't show components without name/version info anymore, thus the discrepency.
It never showed components without name/version info in the components section.
I got 3 icons on my desktop pointing to my 0.8.3 folder the quicklaunch icon launches the 0.9
At the first start, I got a problem like "reading configuration file failed" now it works fine
i hope an option will be added that keeps foobar out of the taskbar permanently. this beta like all previous versions puts foobar in the taskbar when it's "unminimized". i'd like to keep the icon in the sys tray when running and that's it.
also, is there a way to hide the default playlist tab? i don't think this beta let's you hide it.
will kernal streaming be back eventually?
will kernal streaming be back eventually?
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I'm hoping that all the output plugins had some work done for the final release.
1. PLEASE ADD A WARNING IN ORIGINAL POST. I mean there'll, like me, be millions of people who will accidentally leave the user profiles option in the installer on; this results in fb2k0.9 trying to read it (the %appdata%\foobar2000\foobar2000.conf)and also screw it up. The configuration file gets broken and will not be usable for 0.83 any more.
2. And it deleted all my playlists in %appdata%\foobar2000\playlists\ except a defaultr.fpl. It's good to have backups
3. The playback queue seems to be a foo_temple equivalent? Where can I watch the queue?
Oh, no! The tbar_foo plugin does not work for the new version.. Im so used to using it, so now I cant live without it :-) ... Ohwell, I guess ill install the "old" version again, or wait untill the author updates it (like that will ever happend)... But the 0.9 version looks good! I like the new preferences and the improved volume changes.
Where can I watch the queue?[a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=299665"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]
You currently cannot. There was discussion during the closed tests how to do this, however there was no conclusion, and there were more pressing issues to solve.
BTW you can get normal and full from beta news now!! Direct http download.
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MajorGeeks also has a http download now of 0.9 Beta 3
[a href="http://www.majorgeeks.com/download4003.html]http://www.majorgeeks.com/download4003.html[/url]
BTW you can get normal and full from beta news now!! Direct http download.
For those who need it.
I must be being thick this morning - what is "beta news"?
Or, to put it another way - please tell me how to download over HTTP - I'm at work and BitTorrent and eMule/eDonkey are highly frowned upon!
I've got shivers.
BTW you can get normal and full from beta news now!! Direct http download.
For those who need it.
I must be being thick this morning - what is "beta news"?
Or, to put it another way - please tell me how to download over HTTP - I'm at work and BitTorrent and eMule/eDonkey are highly frowned upon!
I've got shivers.
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It's news site www.betanews.com. Almost all major software site has foobar2000 for download. You can also try majorgeeks.com, posted above.
It's news site www.betanews.com. Almost all major software site has foobar2000 for download. You can also try majorgeeks.com, posted above.
Thanks richter. Downloading now.
I've never heard of betanews.com. If they'd have said majorgeeks I would have got it.
Everything is going fine at the moment. Breezing along. I'm going to keep it running for a while, see how it performs.
..However, is there a way to export my old keyboard shortcuts from foobar 0.93 to this latest beta?
Oh... wonderful news!!!
From now, today my work isn't in pole position
Just downloaded it. The preferences seem a little more organized, which helps out big time with usability.
Biggest issue I have right now is that Foobar still doesn't play iTunes Music Store files. Good news is, this is a beta and by past Foobar history the first of many. Hopefully it is added in the future.
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*spits out his coffee*
You're kidding, right? No player other than iTunes will ever play encrypted iTunes Music Store Files because they are exactly that - encrypted. You can find certain (illegal) software that will decrypt it, but I can't point you to it.
The beta3 full install file changed since foosion's first post...(Azureus reports different file size and hash) Silent update maybe? Or error on my side?
Where can I watch the queue?[a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=299665"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]
You currently cannot. There was discussion during the closed tests how to do this, however there was no conclusion, and there were more pressing issues to solve.
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Maybe it would suffice to make this queue information available to third-party plugins to handle it however they wish (as a columns ui panel, for instance).
Peter, what can I say? Like it, LOVE IT! Thank you
foobar2000 appears to have native extended Shuffle support now (album shuffle, etc) and native ID3v2 support now, I don't see anyone mentioning those new features! Peter, again: Thank you!
Anyway, some first impression input:
- With native ID3v2 support now (Am I wrong and still dreaming?), I'm missing the options to set which character encoding it should use. Are these not needed anymore? Which encoding is now used by default?
- "System tray" seem to have adopted a new name: "Notification area", which is wrong imo. Eventhough a lot of program use it for this pupose the system tray is much more than just intended for notification. Giving it a different name might only cause more confusion.
- The Tag wrinting section in the prefs might be a bit unclear to some people. Imo it needs a bit more aditional info. E.g. "Don't update files, only change cached info", when unchecked, when do files get updated? When which action is taken and is foobarbar updating tags automatically as well (with the new tag mapping feature in mind)? Also, in the MP3 section, with the current descriptions it's unclear to me which tags are being written when the advanced option is disabled, an MP3 file has an ID3v1 tag and the new info all fits into this tag version. Does the ID3v2 tag get written as well?
Works nicely for me, cheers. 'Cursor follows playback' works nicely, good that it doesn't steal focus if you're on a different tab.
Is there any way to read UFIDs with this new version? I ask because that is needed to read musicbrainz track IDs for submitting to Audioscrobbler.
Not that I don't have only XP, but could you use libunicows (http://libunicows.sourceforge.net/) to support Unicode for the older Windows operating systems?
Woooo! Finally!
I have a few questions/suggestions though:
- What exactly does Shuffle (track) do? It appears to be no different to Random.
- I'd love to see a Shuffle (artist) playback mode. When I heard of the new Shuffle modes I was excited as I though there might be a mode to shuffle tracks by the currently playing artist. If Shuffle (track) isn't much different to Random, maybe it could be replaced by Shuffle (artist)?
- What happened to the titleformatting help HTML file? I'm sure we'd like to see what new TAGZ (if there are any at all) we can play with.
- With native ID3v2 support now (Am I wrong and still dreaming?), I'm missing the options to set which character encoding it should use. Are these not needed anymore? Which encoding is now used by default?
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It writes unicode tags, unfortunately.
I'd like to see an option to choose between unicode and iso tags, much like kode's old ID3v2 component for foobar 0.83.
Thx for new version!!!!
Thx for secure rip mode
Compare same WAVs riped with foobar2000 and EAC and no difference!!!! (EAC->Tools\Compare WAVs)
(with correct offset -> +48 for Pioneer DVR-108)
bugs (Playback - Audio CD): seeking; Last track time...
I have a few questions/suggestions though:
- What exactly does Shuffle (track) do? It appears to be no different to Random.
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You misunderstand the basic concept of shuffle. Random means that files are played completely randomly - this means, that theoretically it could happen that the same track is played 5 times in a row(however, with a low probability). Shuffle instead ensures that files are played equally often.
Imagine a card deck: random would mean that you take one card, then put it back into the deck and then again randomly pick one. Shuffle instead means that you mix the deck, and then pick one card after another - after all cards are taken, you form a deck of them, shuffle it again, and then do the same process again.
Thus EVERY shuffle mode is fundamentally different to random-mode.
- Lyx
I have a few questions/suggestions though:
- What exactly does Shuffle (track) do? It appears to be no different to Random.
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You misunderstand the basic concept of shuffle. Random means that files are played completely randomly - this means, that theoretically it could happen that the same track is played 5 times in a row(however, with a low probability). Shuffle instead ensures that files are played equally often.
Imagine a card deck: random would mean that you take one card, then put it back into the deck and then again randomly pick one. Shuffle instead means that you mix the deck, and then pick one card after another - after all cards are taken, you form a deck of them, shuffle it again, and then do the same process again.
Thus EVERY shuffle mode is fundamentally different to random-mode.
- Lyx
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Hmm, well wouldn't it make sense to phase out Random altogether and replace it with Shuffle (track)? Maybe renaming it to just "Shuffle". Either way, I'd still love to see Shuffle (artist).
Thanks for this!
I'm wondering though:
1) Are all compability with 0.8 components broken?
2) In the new "Drive settings" for Audio CD; does "Offset correction" and "Secure mode" mean the same as in EAC? I guess it's limited how many times data are read while playback? Are "Secure mode" for ripping purposes? Does this mean foobar2000 are a full-fledged ripper too, now? And are "Offset correction" value entered as it are in EAC? Meaning; My drive, a PX-W4824A, has what Plextools name "Audio read offset" of -392 bytes. This is the same as -98 samples(-392:4), and are entered into EAC as an "Offset correction" of 98. (This is a bit important, as -98 and 98 are not quite the same... )
2) In the new "Drive settings" for Audio CD; does "Offset correction" and "Secure mode" mean the same as in EAC? I guess it's limited how many times data are read while playback? Are "Secure mode" for ripping purposes? Does this mean foobar2000 are a full-fledged ripper too, now? And are "Offset correction" value entered as it are in EAC? Meaning; My drive, a PX-W4824A, has what Plextools name "Audio read offset" of -392 bytes. This is the same as -98 samples(-392:4), and are entered into EAC as an "Offset correction" of 98. (This is a bit important, as -98 and 98 are not quite the same... )
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Offset correction is same as "read sample offset correction" in EAC. In case of doubts do a bitcompare between foo_cdda output and EAC output.
Secure mode rereads every 4MB block until it gets two results with identical CRC, so it's equivalent to burst mode test© because what you get has been read twice with identical resutls, except you don't have to watch CRC numbers unlike in EAC - if there is a problem, additional rereading is done behind your back. Secure mode should not be used for playback because it's too slow, I'll add special options for that later.
bugs (Playback - Audio CD): seeking
"Not here"
Last track time...
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On what disc ?
what about 10000 and more tracks in playlist? in 0.8.3 version maximum 4000 tracks in playlist
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What?
0.8.3 can have more then 4000 tracks in it's playlist. I've loaded up 40 000+ tracks before.
@Johanneshahn:
1st - it's not possible ATM as all those additional plugins need to be updated to foobar SDK 0.9 (means compiled against SDK 0.9)
(AFAIK fade in/out was possible with the DirectSound_ext(2)-plugin - sth. like this)
someone upload to www.rapidshare.de
I like the Autoplaylist plug-in, but I feel there should be a simliar option EXCLUSIVELY for the Media Library, for those of us that don't have a playlist loaded for all their music, but use the media library extensively and are constantly adding/removing/modifying files from the media library folders.
Thx for new version!!!!
Thx for secure rip mode
Compare same WAVs riped with foobar2000 and EAC and no difference!!!! (EAC->Tools\Compare WAVs)
(with correct offset -> +48 for Pioneer DVR-108)
I too appreciate this new feature.
It's just a pity that there's no freedb support. Is it planed to implement one?
It's just a pity that there's no freedb support. Is it planed to implement one?
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I would think somebody will recompile foo_freedb as soon as 0.9 SDK are released. I sure hope so anyway.....
Sorry if this is not the place. (In that case, let us know which is)
I had a quick look at the titleformatting reference.
Am I right if I say that 0.9 beta too doesn't support %_playlist_total% and similars variables outside the playlist view? (status bar etc).
Is there any chance that, before the 0.9 final, the properties windows would become a dialog window showing each tag in its box?
... and that it would behave consistently when you select one file and when select many?
(I'm talking about the multiple values separator and the sorting of multiple values. This in particular it's a pain if you have to add a value but don't want it to show as last - a counterway would be having a function like $sort(%multiple values field%,way of sorting) where one can even specify a custom list like a list of instruments or styles etc even not in alphabetical order - wishing is costless...)
In the installer of the 0.9, I deselected the quick launch icon because I already had the 0.8 there: now it isn't there any more.
How can I restore it (for 0.8)?
I don't think I am sure that I understand why it can only be for Windows 2000+. What has changed so drastically that it requires this? There is no way I am switching from Windows 98. And don't give me that "you're still in the stone age blah blah" speech.
If you insist.. please do feel free to use audio players from 1998 as well then.
I don't think I am sure that I understand why it can only be for Windows 2000+. What has changed so drastically that it requires this? There is no way I am switching from Windows 98. And don't give me that "you're still in the stone age blah blah" speech.
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Unicode support has changed, for example.
i hope an option will be added that keeps foobar out of the taskbar permanently. this beta like all previous versions puts foobar in the taskbar when it's "unminimized". i'd like to keep the icon in the sys tray when running and that's it.
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God I hope so. I too am sick of it being in the taskbar.
And even with /hide it still some times starts up in the taskbar but just invisiable. Its annorying as hell!!!!
You kan keep using 0.8.3 on Win98. It's a fantastic piece of software.... It will provide for most of your needs for years to come...
first post, so ello all.
ended up here after checking the msfn forums looking for a silent install switch. however the only threads i found mentioned the /S switch being kind of broken. i also found a thread about a repacked installer... which disappeared after someone went crazy about it.
can anybody tell me (preferably confirmed by the developer) whether proper silent install functionality is being worked on?
thanks in advance
I don't know if you want feature requests like this in this thread, but I'll add them it anyway:
Oh, and a warning: I might have missed a thing or two in the beta yet. If so, please inform me.
General
1) As v0.9 is not that far from v.1.0 I think it's about time to do something with the fact that foobar2000 often appears to have locked up, when it's actually processing something. I haven't testet this beta that much yet, so things might have been improved though. What I'm talking about is e.g. what's happening here right now. I'm scanning one of my music directories, and while doing that, fb2k it's rendered useless and inaccessible for quite some time. In this particular case, I can se a progress bar, but that's not always so.
What I would like is this:
i) Always show some indication that it's working on something.
ii) Add the option to do this "in the background", so it's not rendered useless and appears to be locked up.
iii) Force, if possible, or at least encourage 3rd party component developer to do the same.
Autoplaylist
2a) It would be nice to have some visible indicator showing that a particular playlist is an "autoplaylist", and hence has reduced functionality for other purposes. Possibly also make this accessible for formatting.
2b) Ignore this if the current Autoplaylist plugin is made only as an example, and ment as a starting point for a 3rd party "Extended/advanced autoplaylist" plugin. If not, I would like to see storing of presets, like in the extended playlist generator (maybe even with improved usability). "Take over" alos feels kind of awkward, but I might get used to it after a while. I'm also tempted to suggest merging the two (AP with PG/EPG), but I guess I'll have to use this new one a bit more first. Probably more like a suggestion for a really advanced 3rd party plugin I guess.
Keep up the good work though! I wouldn't have written all of this if I didn't love this player so much.
Works great so far here. I had one crash, but I think that was related to the new Columns UI alpha. I posted about it here (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=28647&view=findpost&p=299946) in case it's pertinent.
One thing I would like to see implemented for the default UI in 0.9 final would be the ability to control the colors on the playlist better. With the color scheme I used to use use you can't read the text of a Now Playing item when it's selected by the cursor.
edit: musicmusic has confirmed my crash as having to do with columns_ui, so need need for anyone else to look into it.
What I would like is this:
i) Always show some indication that it's working on something.
ii) Add the option to do this "in the background", so it's not rendered useless and appears to be locked up.
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Do you have an actual issue with v0.9 locking up? All file operations and most other lengthy operations I can think of show a standardized progress dialog (part of the SDK) and are abortable by the user.
Regarding the Autoplaylist which happens to be an example of a "playlist lock": I already suggested to show this in the statusbar. In the mean time, you can use [a href="http://www.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de/~uzbs/fb2k/misc/foo_playlist_manager.dll]foo_playlist_manager[/url] which was initially designed to solve exactly this problem, but later grew into a beefed-up playlist switcher.
Waiting for CASE's version.
I havent had any crashes yet..............it would be nice to get our old plugins again........in time.......great work on 0.9 though.............
Are we going to see global system date and time availability?
Ability to reset individual pages in preferences (if supported by the component that provides the page)
...
reset to default was revised, finally!
And I also like the
Preferences->Tag writing->MP3 section. It's definitely a good idea to add extra tweaking options to foobar2000's tag writing behavior. What about adding such subsections for all/most/more audio formats?
*hint* MP3tag...EDIT: Oh, I just figured out that the settings in the MP3 subsection also apply to other formats that use APEv2/ID3v1,2 tags (at least that seems to be the case for Musepack files)... so basically I'm quite happy with the way it works right now, since I explicitly use APEv2 for every audio container that supports it. Although
renaming the subsection to something different and more general e.g. "MP3, MPC,..." would be more logical... or the addition of subsections for each audio format isn't such a bad idea at all? I can imagine that some folks want ID3* tags for their MP3s but APEv2 tags only for all other audio files that support it.
Something I would like to see (though doubt it is in 0.9?) is the ability for a component to add and remove services at runtime instead of having the requirement they be static.
Also, I think it is a mistake to not release the SDK until the final is out. I think it would be a much better idea to release a 'beta SDK' which builds components that only 0.9beta loads but 0.9final won't load. This would at least let developers get their feet wet and get code migrated toward whatever changes are required.
Lastly, I think it's a good idea to drop 95/98/ME support.
I'd love a linux version...............I get huge slow downs and plugin errors, with wine...............
Something I would like to see (though doubt it is in 0.9?) is the ability for a component to add and remove services at runtime instead of having the requirement they be static.
Also, I think it is a mistake to not release the SDK until the final is out. I think it would be a much better idea to release a 'beta SDK' which builds components that only 0.9beta loads but 0.9final won't load. This would at least let developers get their feet wet and get code migrated toward whatever changes are required.
Lastly, I think it's a good idea to drop 95/98/ME support.
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It is this way to avoid a lot of reports caused by components instead of foobar.
I'd love a linux version...............I get huge slow downs and plugin errors, with wine...............
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foobar2000 is heavily dependent on the Windows API. A linux version is not going to happen.
On the subject of the SDK. It shouldn't be much trouble to get existing components to recompile under the new SDK. As such, I'm okay with the SDK not being available until the final is out. Whilst it's annoying to have two versions of foobar installed, and your favourite components not available for 0.9, the beta process will be much smoother without bug reports for individual components getting in the way of bug reports for core components.
The beta3 full install file changed since foosion's first post...(Azureus reports different file size and hash) Silent update maybe? Or error on my side?
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From foobar2000.org:
First uploaded version had broken uninstaller. If you downloaded foobar within an hour from the release you can get fixed uninstaller here.
I noticed that masstagger scripts are included in a "Scripts" menu...very convenient. Would it be possible though to make each script its own menu item? As in, I could put a script in the main context menu, rather than in a sub-menu?
REQ:
1, Import *.cfg from commandline.
2, can run multi process (foobar2000.exe) by commandline switch.
Suggestion:
Audtoplaylist - This is probably on the todo list (if the autoplaylist component is still in "beta"). Could the playlists be editable? because once you "take over" a playlist, you can no longer edit the query which is a bit tedious :S. Also i'm having problems with the NOT operator, for instance NOT artist IS <artist> doesn't seem to work... but that's probably just on my side .
Also i second the request for "ignore directory" in the Media Library... it gets annoying with Autoplaylist when it includes artists/directories you don't want...
And does the library auto-update? Autoplaylist gets the data from the library only right? so i think that there should be an option to "Auto update library on startup" or something.
That's all i can think of at the moment, development is going GREAT! i really love the Preamp with/without RG feature and there's heaps mor ei like but that's too much to mention lol
(any ETA for beta 4?)
I'm just glad that both the AAC streams like WDUQ and AAC+ files I've encoded using bsiegel's dbPoweramp encoder work.
But, I wish the volume control were more accesible.
Suggestion:
Audtoplaylist - This is probably on the todo list (if the autoplaylist component is still in "beta"). Could the playlists be editable? because once you "take over" a playlist, you can no longer edit the query which is a bit tedious :S. Also i'm having problems with the NOT operator, for instance NOT artist IS <artist> doesn't seem to work... but that's probably just on my side .[a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=300058"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]
That's on purpose. Since the whole point of an autoplaylist is that it will automatically update according to the criteria assigned to it, there's really no point in making it editable.. what you're looking for can be accomplished with the playlist generator just as easily.
Suggestion:
Audtoplaylist - This is probably on the todo list (if the autoplaylist component is still in "beta"). Could the playlists be editable? because once you "take over" a playlist, you can no longer edit the query which is a bit tedious :S. Also i'm having problems with the NOT operator, for instance NOT artist IS <artist> doesn't seem to work... but that's probably just on my side .[a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=300058"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]
That's on purpose. Since the whole point of an autoplaylist is that it will automatically update according to the criteria assigned to it, there's really no point in making it editable.. what you're looking for can be accomplished with the playlist generator just as easily.
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I think what he is looking for is a way to edit the autoplaylist query string.
just a quick throw-in..
- ReplayGain-copy-button at properties/file-info is maybe a bit to small, the 'p' and 'y' cannot be seen completely
request: possibility to remove existing 'Output file name formatting' at converter-page
Can I use all of my 0.8.3 plugins in 0.9?
Or do we have to wait for the SDK so that devs can rewrite all the plugins for 0.9?
Can I use all of my 0.8.3 plugins in 0.9?
Or do we have to wait for the SDK so that devs can rewrite all the plugins for 0.9?
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As foosion said in the first post of this thread, components made for v0.8.3 and older will no longer load.
In the installer of the 0.9, I deselected the quick launch icon because I already had the 0.8 there: now it isn't there any more.
How can I restore it (for 0.8)?
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Open the directory you have 0.8.3 in (e.g. C:\Program Files\foobar2000) and drag the foobar2000.exe to the Quick Launch bar.
Thanks for the great beta. It rules.
I can't find all the components as mentioned under "Components in full version", e.g. ABX comparator. Is this due to the beta stage of this release, or am I just not looking well enough?
edit. archive reader as well...
In v0.9, I 'lost' all my tags if if my mp3 are in "tagtype = id3v2|apev2". It's fine for mp3 with "tagtype = apev2|id3v1".[a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=300105"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]
Sounds like complete nonsense.
fb2k 0.9 merges all tags it finds.
Using APEv2
and ID3v2 on the same file is stronly discouraged.
I can't find all the components as mentioned under "Components in full version", e.g. ABX comparator. Is this due to the beta stage of this release, or am I just not looking well enough?
edit. archive reader as well...
ABX can be found by right clicking and selecting
Utils > ABX two tracks... .
If you don't have this you probably didn't select it as part of your install. Not all components are installed by default, you have to select them in the Choose Components dialogue of the installer.
You can probably reinstall over your current 0.9 install, and pay attention to the Choose Components tree.
- foobar2000 doesn't play speex files anymore
Surely this is simply because the Speex decoder is not part of the Standard input array. You will need to wait for a 0.9 Speex decoder component.
Interestingly it seems the Standard input array has doubled in size. I've only tested APE, FLAC and WV - but they appear to all be part of the SIA now...
I
guess that's good news. Less flexibility , but also less faffing about.
If you don't have this you probably didn't select it as part of your install. Not all components are installed by default, you have to select them in the Choose Components dialogue of the installer.
Mea culpa! Thanks for the help.
Will the final version work under Windows 98?
Will the final version work under Windows 98?
Requirements:
foobar2000 v0.9 beta requires a Unicode capable version of the Windows operating system. It will not work on Windows 95, 98 or ME.
So, all further releases will be XP/2K only then?
That has not been decided yet.
Also, the "Shuffle (album)" mode doesn't deal with PARTINSET, only DISC. For MP3 files, PARTINSET is the common used tag instead of DISC. Maybe this should have a remapping as well?
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Either i've missed something, or this "common used tag for mp3s" isn't very common to me.
- Lyx
Also, the "Shuffle (album)" mode doesn't deal with PARTINSET, only DISC. For MP3 files, PARTINSET is the common used tag instead of DISC. Maybe this should have a remapping as well?
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Either i've missed something, or this "common used tag for mp3s" isn't very common to me.
- Lyx
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Me neither. I think he means PARTINSET is the
standard tag used for multi-disc albums, not the most common.
[a href="http://www.id3.org/id3v2.3.0.html#TPOS]http://www.id3.org/id3v2.3.0.html#TPOS[/url]
TPOS should probably be mapped to DISC.
In v0.9, I 'lost' all my tags if if my mp3 are in "tagtype = id3v2|apev2". It's fine for mp3 with "tagtype = apev2|id3v1".[a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=300105"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]
Sounds like complete nonsense.
fb2k 0.9 merges all tags it finds.
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May be. My foobar v0.83 reads the mp3 with "tagtype = id3v2|apev2" correctly but not in v0.9. That's why I suspect v0.83 reads tags in APEv2 first, and when it merge with id3v2, there is no change since both APEv2 and id3v2 tags have same information.
However, I believe v0.9 reads tags according to the "tagtype" order, i.e id3v2 then apev2 for "tagtype = id3v2|apev2". As my mp3 tags contains
chinese chars, it simply reads the tag information incorrectly (read id3v2 as ASCII?).
Is there any solution to change the tagtype from "tagtype = id3v2|apev2" to "tagtype = apev2|id3v2" without modify tag contains of the file? I used TagScanner but it gives me id3v2 truncated tags as id3v1.
Using APEv2 and ID3v2 on the same file is stronly discouraged.
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Oh, its it? I'm thinking of since id3v2 is newer than id3v1, why don't use the newer one? As there are some information truncated when save into id3v1 format.
Me neither. I think he means PARTINSET is the standard tag used for multi-disc albums, not the most common.
http://www.id3.org/id3v2.3.0.html#TPOS (http://www.id3.org/id3v2.3.0.html#TPOS)
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Aye, exactly, sorry about the confusion. Since this is the standard programs like e.g. Tag&Rename set PARTINSET instead of DISC.
I also found another "Shuffle (album)" bug as well, it takes the artist name into acount as well but this is causing problems with a various artist albums. It stops playing the album after the first artist.
Has ctz's code for detecting LAME profile information been incorporated into .9?
Has ctz's code for detecting LAME profile information been incorporated into .9?
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No, it doesn't seem to have any tech fields regarding the LAME presets. Unfortunetaly. =(
FooBar 0.9 works a charm so far. The only real problem I have so far is that skipping forward though songs is extremely slow, and takes a lot of cpu. This is especially noticable when you have resume-playback-on-start enabled.
When you start FooBar, its takes long (about 20 seconds or more sometimes) before playback actually starts. It's not locked up or anything during that time. Version 0.83 didn't have that delay.
Ow, and the font in the status bar can't be changed anymore? Or am I overlooking that?
yay! Mod songs sound more like they should now (compare anarchy menu 11)!
Thanks a lot!!
Very minor: Is the "Show total time of selected songs" option in the 0.83 default user interface gone for good?
Very minor: Is the "Show total time of selected songs" option in the 0.83 default user interface gone for good?[a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=300277"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]
No, right-click the statusbar to enable it.
win xp sp2 - beta 3 - full version - full install
First thing I did was to open the console
INFO (CORE) : startup time : 0:00.074243
Faster than fast
Incidentally, is it really possible to be accurate to within a microsecond?
Is there a plugin yet which lets you store the album cover image in the mp3 itself? Like in iTunes. Also, is there a plugin to display the album art in foobar?
Don't flame me, but i have Über music and I added the genre tag to an album (in foobar 0.9), then enforced. AQScript gave me an error stating that the first track has a tracknumber of -01, I couldn't see this in any tag apps but upon re-tagging the album it was fine.
Edit: Another thing about Autoplaylist, I realised that having Autoplaylist make playlists for specific genres ommited albums without genres (hence the taggin above), so i tried making an ew list that had mp3s with no genre. I tried using the queries: genre IS "" which gave nothing, and then NOT genre which gave me a dump of:
INFO (CORE) : opening file for playback :
INFO (CORE) : location: "file://D:\Music\Uberized Downloads\Third Eye Blind - 2003 - Out Of The Vein\Third Eye Blind - 07 - Misfits.mp3" (0)
...
INFO (CORE) : opening file for playback :
INFO (CORE) : location: "file://D:\Music\Uberized Downloads\Third Eye Blind - 2003 - Out Of The Vein\Third Eye Blind - 13 - Good Man.mp3" (0)
ERROR (foo_autoplaylist) : Invalid query.
ERROR (foo_autoplaylist) : Invalid query.
(All the albums without the genre tag)
I think that queries like this should be allowed.
Is there any one with problems with Global Keys?
I try to assing global keys to my multimedia keys, but after saving options, they are not set up.
It is happening to me in 0.9 beta 2 and beta 3, working fine in 0.8.3 final.
A lot of the music I've been "acquiring" lately contains id3v2|id3v1 tags, and are often padded by spaces up to 30 characters. For example, the artist field will be something like "Vitalic ". Tags are read fine in 0.8.3.
First, excuse me for my english
-With shuffle (album), the Random button play a random track, and not a random album
-In Album List "genre|%artist% - %album%|..." is actually not possible, and with "%genre%|..." I have folders with names "Jazz, SoundTrack" "Jazz" "SoundTrack"
and thank you for this new version...
So, all further releases will be XP/2K only then?[a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=299549"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]
That has not been decided yet.
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i reckon it should......... don't find a reason to continue to use Win98.... ( apart from the computer being slower than PII 233 )
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Hello,
I run 98 on this machine and I'm not thinking to upgrade....I hope it remains compatible.
I found on 0.8.3 (my first installed version ) that those files that gave "can't get info...etc..errors" are those with a space in the name. If I rename them removing the space they load ok.
I love this product though...
Oh, its it? I'm thinking of since id3v2 is newer than id3v1, why don't use the newer one? As there are some information truncated when save into id3v1 format.
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The point of using APEv2 + ID3v1
or ID3v2 + ID3v1 is compatibility. ID3v1 provides compatibility for tools/hardware without support for the newer tagging standards. Putting two
modern standards in one file is redundant, since the provide roughly the same feature set.
If you need untruncated information with legacy software use ID3v2 [+ ID3v1].
I've searched this topic, but I didn't notice anyone mentioning that: it is unable to install new beta with wine in Linux, as installation program says it needs at least Windows 2000. I don't know how to force wine to emulate w2k and not win98. I didn't find any solution over the net. Is it somehow possible to either change emulation with wine or force installation to not check the system version?
probably been mentioned before, but the EQ settings arent on the fly, you have to exit the eq menu for the settings to change.
Just grabbed the beta. I really like the clean up of preferences in particular; very nice indeed. Is it possible to obtain the standard menus in 0.9? This could be done in 0.8 by disabling Menu in the tool bar context menu, but this seems to be gone in 0.9beta. The tool bar menus are somewhat difficult to use with screen readers.
Jamie
Will we be able to remove all the garbage that drop-down lists are inevitably going to accumulate, particularly in Playlist>Add location?
Will we be able to remove all the garbage that drop-down lists are inevitably going to accumulate, particularly in Playlist>Add location?
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I want that feature too.
I just noticed that the installer doesn't add the shell extensions "Play in foobar2000" and "Enqueue in foobar2000" for folders/directories. Hope this was not intentional, since I make heavy use of it.[a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=300302"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]
Association is no longer handled by the installer.
So will there be "Play..." and "Enqueue..." for directories again in the future? I figure it is changed by foobar2000 itself during runtime when the user changes the file associations under "Preferences->File types". Adding a check box there for the old directory shell extensions would be nice.[a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=300447"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]
I'm curious about that too. Will directory association be handled by the core executable?
Would it be a dumb idea to copy 0.8.3's fooassoc into foobar2000 0.9's directory, and run it to associate directories with fb2k, in the meantime?
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Also there should be "Play..." and "Enqueue..." for compressed files (.zip etc) handled by foo_unpack when it's installed.
Is unicode the only thing keeping this from working on Windows 98? I have Windows 98 SE Service Pack 2, which seems to have unicode support, but the installer checks for 2000 or newer and won't let me install.
probably been mentioned before, but the EQ settings arent on the fly, you have to exit the eq menu for the settings to change.
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That's what Components -> Equalizer is there for.
(hint: checking/unchecking
Equalizer enabled there automagically adds and removes the equalizer in the dsp queue, too)
I found that the ordering in Default player mode is different between V0.8.3 and V0.9 beta 3. As can be seen in attached screenshot.
I am using a plain vanilla installation, so no extra formatting strings.
Anyone experienced this before?
(http://img149.echo.cx/img149/7135/foobardefault5gp.jpg)
Kind regards, Han
I found a few issues regarding tag writing with 0.9 beta 3.
1st issue:
1. Check "Don't update files, only change cached info".
2. Process a file using Converter, choosing an output preset whereby "Write tags after encoding" is checked.
3. After conversion, tags are written to the processed file, ignoring the "Don't update files..." option.
2nd issue (specific to FLAC format):
1. Uncheck "Don't update files, only change cached info".
2. Choose a .flac file that has tags written to it.
3. When trying to "Remove tags from file(s)", tags are not removed (confirmed by selecting "Reload info from file(s)".
I tested the 2nd issue with a file in MP3 format and got the desired result, hinting that this problem is specific to FLAC.
I found that the ordering in Default player mode is different between V0.8.3 and V0.9 beta 3. As can be seen in attached screenshot.
I am using a plain vanilla installation, so no extra formatting strings.
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Well, you can see the sort order in 0.9b3 by looking at "Preferences->General->Sort incoming files by". In 0.8.3, the sort order is under "Preferences->Core->Sort incoming files by". You can just copy the sort string from 0.8.3 to 0.9b3 and it will work as before.
(Also, you can use "Playlist->Sort->Sort by" to sort the files already in your playlist.
I found a few issues regarding tag writing with 0.9 beta 3.
1st issue:
1. Check "Don't update files, only change cached info".
2. Process a file using Converter, choosing an output preset whereby "Write tags after encoding" is checked.
3. After conversion, tags are written to the processed file, ignoring the "Don't update files..." option.
Intended. Why anyone would want to block writing tags to freshly encoded file is beyond me.
2nd issue (specific to FLAC format):
1. Uncheck "Don't update files, only change cached info".
2. Choose a .flac file that has tags written to it.
3. When trying to "Remove tags from file(s)", tags are not removed (confirmed by selecting "Reload info from file(s)".
I tested the 2nd issue with a file in MP3 format and got the desired result, hinting that this problem is specific to FLAC.
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Intended again. It removes
tags (ID3 etc), not things that are a part of file format specs.
I found that the ordering in Default player mode is different between V0.8.3 and V0.9 beta 3. As can be seen in attached screenshot.
I am using a plain vanilla installation, so no extra formatting strings.
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Well, you can see the sort order in 0.9b3 by looking at "Preferences->General->Sort incoming files by". In 0.8.3, the sort order is under "Preferences->Core->Sort incoming files by". You can just copy the sort string from 0.8.3 to 0.9b3 and it will work as before.
(Also, you can use "Playlist->Sort->Sort by" to sort the files already in your playlist.
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Thanks,
that did the trick.... I am just wondering why it was changed for the beta?
kind regards, Han
probably been mentioned before, but the EQ settings arent on the fly, you have to exit the eq menu for the settings to change.
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That's what Components -> Equalizer is there for.
(hint: checking/unchecking Equalizer enabled there automagically adds and removes the equalizer in the dsp queue, too)
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I see, so why doesnt the EQ from the preferences window change on the fly?
Intended. Why anyone would want to block writing tags to freshly encoded file is beyond me.
For me, I do not use tags at all and instead rely fully on fb2k database (or media library, as it has been now renamed).
An example of when I want to block writing tags to encoded files is when I am transcoding my FLAC files (which have meta data stored in the database) to MP3 files. In such a situation, I do not wish for my MP3 files to be tagged with whatever is stored in the database.
However, I understand your reason for not blocking tag writing for freshly encoded files and am able to easily work around this issue by unchecking "Write tags after encoding" within Converter's settings.
It's just that there are situations when I
do want to write tags to encoded files and unchecking a universal "Don't update files..." is easier than editing individual Converter presets.
This used to work in 0.8.3 with "Block tag update operations", and is IMO more intuitive in the sense that if I select not to write tags to files globally, I would expect all components to adhere to my preference, and not allow certain components to override this.
Intended again. It removes tags (ID3 etc), not things that are a part of file format specs.
So the only way to remove all meta data from FLAC files is to go into Properties, select Remove all, then update the file (which works)? I am not sure of the intricate differences between MP3 tags and FLAC meta data, but as a user, selecting an option from the context menu to remove all tags is similar to going into Properties and doing the same, with the only difference being that the former is more intuitive.
IMO, if I have a bunch of files in different formats, and want to remove all tags from the files, I would expect that after "Remove tag(s)..." from the context menu is invoked, all tags would be removed regardless of format. Instead, as it is now, tags from MP3 are removed while FLAC meta data aren't.
You mentioned that these behaviours are intended, so I am not expecting any changes. However, it would be great if aspects of the issues are addressed. But if changing these intended behaviours work against the overall usability of fb2k, then, oh well...
Hi, thanks for the great work! Here are a few of my thoughts and suggestions to help make it even better:
- As desribed in this thread (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=34281), ReplayGain values are not transferred on conversion to a lossless format. Is this intented behaviour, since the values obviously don't change with the conversion?
- Regarding converter presets, would it be possible to include 'Up' and 'Down' buttons for reordering them? Things tend to get a little messy after adding a few... Additionally, it might be a better idea for each format/encoder to have only one preset and then prompt the user for the desired command-line (quality setting) upon conversion. Just so there aren't 30+ presets to choose from each time.
- Minor detail: shouldn't Create Ogg preview be called Create Vorbis preview instead?
moved to the feature requests thread
i refuse to install any kind of bittorrent software on my pc, any alternative download location available already?
- Minor detail: shouldn't Create Ogg preview be called Create Vorbis preview instead?
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No. Chaining is an Ogg specific feature.
i refuse to install any kind of bittorrent software on my pc, any alternative download location available already?
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Should I mail you a cd with the beta on or can you be bothered to read the posts here (that gives you a link) before bothering the rest of the readers?
I have moved 0.9 beta bug reports (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=34321).
Use fb2k 0.9 beta feature suggestions (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=34319).
Please use those threads appropriately.
So this thread is for the all remaining questions (e.g. SDK, Win98, when is it finished)?
Yep, this one is for remaining questions / general 0.9 discussion excluding bug reports and feature requests.
However, you are cordially invited to redirect questions of the "when is it finished" type straight to the recycle bin They're not really appreciated, and the answer was, is, and will always be the same anyway: "It'll be done when it's done", they say.
i refuse to install any kind of bittorrent software on my pc, any alternative download location available already?
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Evidently you also refuse to read the thread before posting
(Look on the second page IIRC, theres a link to it hosted on Major Geeks).
but the EQ settings arent on the fly, you have to exit the eq menu for the settings to change.
it is on-the-fly!
i refuse to install any kind of bittorrent software on my pc, any alternative download location available already?
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Should I mail you a cd with the beta on or can you be bothered to read the posts here (that gives you a link) before bothering the rest of the readers?
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ouch, i oversee that link sorry folks.
btw, which game is that in your avatar? i remember playing it a lot but can't remember the title anymore...
i refuse to install any kind of bittorrent software on my pc, any alternative download location available already?
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Should I mail you a cd with the beta on or can you be bothered to read the posts here (that gives you a link) before bothering the rest of the readers?
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ouch, i oversee that link sorry folks.
btw, which game is that in your avatar? i remember playing it a lot but can't remember the title anymore...
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Know as "Bump'n'Rumble" or "Bad Street Brawler".
I really like the idea of field remappings. Is there going to be a way for users to create and modify these in the future?
Beta 4 is available at the official beta page (http://www.foobar2000.org/beta.html).
Beta 4 is available at the official beta page (http://www.foobar2000.org/beta.html).
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torrent
Beta 4 is available at the official beta page (http://www.foobar2000.org/beta.html).
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Is there a changelog? What's different between 3 and 4?
Beta 4 is available at the official beta page (http://www.foobar2000.org/beta.html).
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Is there a changelog? What's different between 3 and 4?
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wondering that myself, I'm guessing maybe some bugfixes, looks about the same.
but the EQ settings arent on the fly, you have to exit the eq menu for the settings to change.
it is on-the-fly!
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*sigh* - let me try again:
The EQ can be accessed in two different places:
1) Components > EQ (This DOES change the settings on the fly)
2) Foobar2000 > Preferences > DSP Manager > Equalizer > Configure Selected (This DOES NOT change on the fly, the changes only occur when pressing the OK button)
It is a quite negligible bug, I just want to be sure that others can confirm.
I uninstalled beta3 before installing beta4, and the whole folder got deleted. anyhow, everytime a new version/beta is out, i start from scratch (new cfg, new layout etc..) Nevertheless, I believe an uninstaller should never remove files it didn't create. Just a thought
I really like the idea of field remappings. Is there going to be a way for users to create and modify these in the future?
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I've been seeing mentions of field remappings, but I'm not quite sure what they are. Do people mean simply that certain fields were changed?
I really like the idea of field remappings. Is there going to be a way for users to create and modify these in the future?
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I've been seeing mentions of field remappings, but I'm not quite sure what they are. Do people mean simply that certain fields were changed?[a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=301413"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]
[a href="http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=Foobar2000:Titleformat_Reference#Field_remappings] Field remappings[/url]
It means that %tracknumber% now automatically stands for $num($meta(tracknumber),2), so you don't have to use $tracknumber() or $num(%tracknumber%,2) now.
You can get the old behaviour by using $meta(tracknumber).
There's a link explaining this on the thread-starting post.
ID3v2 support with padding for fast tag updates
Is fb2k 0.9 going to support padding in Ogg Vorbis tags in near future?
I'm trying to set up an autoplaylist that consists of files with no replaygain information, so I can add gain info to them, but I've found several issues.
In 0.8.3's extended playlist generator, the query was simply "__replaygain_album_gain MISSING".
In 0.9, I cannot get a comparable query to work.
Since the MISSING operator is no longer available, I'm trying to use "NOT __replaygain_album_gain IS *". However, I discovered I can't use __replaygain_album_gain as the search field without % signs. No results are returned for either "__replaygain_album_gain IS *" or "NOT __replaygain_album_gain IS *". Is this intended behavior?
When I add % signs, I discovered that "%__replaygain_album_gain% IS *" returns files that have no replaygain information (it returns the entire media library). But something like "NOT comment IS *" does return all files with no Comment tag.
Is there any way to get an equivalent query to work in 0.9?
NOT %__replaygain_track_gain% HAS .
I really like the idea of field remappings. Is there going to be a way for users to create and modify these in the future?
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I've been seeing mentions of field remappings, but I'm not quite sure what they are. Do people mean simply that certain fields were changed?[a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=301413"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]
[a href="http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=Foobar2000:Titleformat_Reference#Field_remappings] Field remappings[/url]
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Is it just me or does there seem to be a lot of inconsistency? i.e. %isplaying% and %_ispaused% seem... like there is a lack of uniformity.
What plug-ins have been ported for 0.9 beta use, other than ColumnsUI?
What plug-ins have been ported for 0.9 beta use, other than ColumnsUI?
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The ones in the installer (this is my components dir, with all components installed):
foo_abx.dll
foo_alac.dll
foo_albumlist.dll
foo_autoplaylist.dll
foo_benchmark.dll
foo_bitcompare.dll
foo_burninate.dll
foo_cdda.dll
foo_converter.dll
foo_dbsearch.dll
foo_dsp_std.dll
foo_input_std.dll
foo_masstag.dll
foo_oggpreview.dll
foo_playlistgen.dll
foo_playlist_manager.dll
foo_rgscan.dll
foo_spc.dll
foo_ui_std.dll
foo_unpack.dll
foo_utils.dll
there is no public SDK so no 3rd party components can be ported yet, this is to avoid bug reports related to 3rd party components
Edit: There are some 3rd party components (made by foosion, Case, and musicmusic) thats all afaik, link to [a href=\"http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=33&t=34613]thread about .9 3rd party compoents[/url]
for some reason i can't download the beta. i click on the download link and nothing happens. i have bittorrent.
for some reason i can't download the beta. i click on the download link and nothing happens. i have bittorrent.
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Which client?
for some reason i can't download the beta. i click on the download link and nothing happens. i have bittorrent.
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Which client?
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i was using the default bittorrent (the torrent home page with the pic of the guy and his baby). but nevermind now, i figured out what i was doing wrong. i have the beta downloaded now.
What plug-ins have been ported for 0.9 beta use, other than ColumnsUI?
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The ones in the installer (this is my components dir, with all components installed, and columns, albumlist panel):
foo_abx.dll
foo_alac.dll
foo_albumlist.dll
foo_autoplaylist.dll
foo_benchmark.dll
foo_bitcompare.dll
foo_burninate.dll
foo_cdda.dll
foo_converter.dll
foo_dbsearch.dll
foo_dsp_std.dll
foo_input_std.dll
foo_masstag.dll
foo_oggpreview.dll
foo_playlistgen.dll
foo_playlist_manager.dll
foo_rgscan.dll
foo_spc.dll
foo_uie_albumlist.dll
foo_ui_columns.dll
foo_ui_std.dll
foo_unpack.dll
foo_utils.dll
there is no public SDK so no 3rd party components can be ported yet, this is to avoid bug reports related to 3rd party components
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hunted - could you please post a URL where I can get a copy of foo_uie_albumlist which works with the 0.9 beta?
Thanks in advance
Thanks in advance
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Its in the foo_columns thread. Heres a link:
[a href="http://music.morbo.org/download/unstable/foo_uie_albumlist-0.2-beta.7z]http://music.morbo.org/download/unstable/f...ist-0.2-beta.7z[/url]
Kode has also ported a few of his plugins to .9 they are at http://www.saunalahti.fi/~cse/kode54/beta/ (http://www.saunalahti.fi/~cse/kode54/beta/)
I really like the new osd
Is there a list of frames that are supported in the id3v2 implementation and which tag fields are mapped?
How sure can I be that the settings I configure for 0.9b4 will be usable by 0.9 final? Should I bother setting things up how I want, hotkeys and layouts and everything, or will it all just go to waste when the final is released? Or is it too early to tell?
Is there a list of frames that are supported in the id3v2 implementation and which tag fields are mapped?
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See the very first post in this thread, specifically the bullet point "Field remappings in titleformat scripts" (at least to answer the second part of your questionl.
gfngfgf I'm talking about something different.
Holy crap!!
Just noticed conditional folders in the masstagger!!!
Thankyou.
Need...new beta...fixes...
What kind of memory "footprint" will the new player have?
Will it be around the same memory usage as previous versions or bigger ?
One of the reasons I choose Foobar2000 over say Winamp or others is because it is small and efficient with memory usage, whereas Winamp is monstrous
One of the reasons I choose Foobar2000 over say Winamp or others is because it is small and efficient with memory usage, whereas Winamp is monstrous
Fortunately DDR-SDRAM memory is quite cheap so if the memory footprint is an issue and your computer is using DDR-SDRAM, I realy suggest you to buy more.
Hello,
I would have known if improvment of "random mode" is planned ? (if someone knows...)
Can we please get the add new folders to the media library made so I can type a path in. Adding UNC paths thru that browse dialog is a slow process as it tries to browse the lan. I would prefer to just type it in.
Hello,
I would have known if improvment of "random mode" is planned ? (if someone knows...)
Welcome to ha.org. Please search the forums before posting. Wrong Thread.
Can we please get the add new folders to the media library made so I can type a path in. Adding UNC paths thru that browse dialog is a slow process as it tries to browse the lan. I would prefer to just type it in.
Wrong thread. See first post concerning feature requests.
http://toolplusplus.com/files/dl.php?file=1276 (http://toolplusplus.com/files/dl.php?file=1276)
I can probs manage 30-70k downloads/month.
Do we have an ETA on release? I can probably host that, too.
[Do we have an ETA on release?
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Yeah, the usual.
"When its done" eh.
I'll host that when its released. I have about 80-100gb bandy a month to spare.
I'm totally looking foreward to the Secure mode CD writing and the diskwriter.
As long as it gets the usual host of plugins, I might use it for ripping too.
Is there going to be legacy plugin support or will they all have to be recompiled (and will all the stuff in the current special pack get recompiled).
Is there going to be legacy plugin support or will they all have to be recompiled (and will all the stuff in the current special pack get recompiled).
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From the first post:
Compatility with previous versionsComponents made for v0.8.3 and older will no longer load.
they will all need to be recompiled
Is there going to be legacy plugin support or will they all have to be recompiled (and will all the stuff in the current special pack get recompiled).
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From the first post:
Compatility with previous versions
Components made for v0.8.3 and older will no longer load.
they will all need to be recompiled
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With Foobar's following, it will be pretty quick.
"When its done" eh.
I'll host that when its released. I have about 80-100gb bandy a month to spare.
I'm totally looking foreward to the Secure mode CD writing and the diskwriter.
As long as it gets the usual host of plugins, I might use it for ripping too.
Is there going to be legacy plugin support or will they all have to be recompiled (and will all the stuff in the current special pack get recompiled).
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Anychance someone out there in community land wants to start making a cognitive website for foobar?
Yes I know there is one, but as I understand it, someone has to physically update it, for new versions etc, it would be nice if something similar to nullsoft's site existed, where people could maintain their plugin's space, and you didn't have to trawl through 80+ pages of forum threads to find the latest version of a plugin
I'll have a word to someone about setting up some sort of php front end. But having this sort of thing ready for the 1.0 release would really help the player out don't you think?
Anychance someone out there in community land wants to start making a cognitive website for foobar?
Yes I know there is one, but as I understand it, someone has to physically update it, for new versions etc, it would be nice if something similar to nullsoft's site existed, where people could maintain their plugin's space, and you didn't have to trawl through 80+ pages of forum threads to find the latest version of a plugin
I'll have a word to someone about setting up some sort of php front end. But having this sort of thing ready for the 1.0 release would really help the player out don't you think?
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This is a project I have been interested in doing for some time. Whilst the current plugins site is alright, I have many ideas on how several things can be done better. Once finals at my university are over, I'm going to look into it more.
That would be great guys!
I'm really trying to learn fb2k (0.8.3) and a central .9 site would rock for n00bs such as myself.
Well it wouldn't be for player help, only for plugins. For help, you already have a central site here (http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=Foobar2000).
Well it wouldn't be for player help, only for plugins. For help, you already have a central site here (http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=Foobar2000).
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Oh I understood that.
It's the plug-ins that have given me the most "trouble". I have of course found ones like ui_columns quite easily, but there are others that I don't discover until reading through loads of forum posts.
I'll host it - I can give FTP to someone that does it. Is 120gb bandy mmk?
I plan on making a decent site/general tech blog for myself sometime soon...it can have a foobar type section thingy
I'll host it - I can give FTP to someone that does it. Is 120gb bandy mmk?[a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=308556"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]
I am quite sure lots of other sites will mirror it as well. There is no need to make such a big fuss out of it now.
I'll host it - I can give FTP to someone that does it. Is 120gb bandy mmk?
I plan on making a decent site/general tech blog for myself sometime soon...it can have a foobar type section thingy
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120GB monthly ? Thanks for the offer, but we already have over 10x that on our own server.
It's just pointless to waste bandwidth on weekly beta releases which people keep redownloading, as shown by our past experience. Final release will come as HTTP download.
I'll host it - I can give FTP to someone that does it. Is 120gb bandy mmk?
I plan on making a decent site/general tech blog for myself sometime soon...it can have a foobar type section thingy
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Final release will come as HTTP download.
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Excellent...Looking very forward to it.
wow... i've just installed 0.9 and I'm very pleased... looks and feels nice... well done...
any UIcolumns-panels already compiled for the new version? I'm especially missing the album list...
greetings,
reto
wow... i've just installed 0.9 and I'm very pleased... looks and feels nice... well done...
any UIcolumns-panels already compiled for the new version? I'm especially missing the album list...
greetings,
reto
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The album list panel is available [a href="http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=28647&st=2000&p=303820&#entry303820]here[/url].
I haven't noticed any other panels compiled for 0.9 yet.
Beta 5 out. (http://foobar2000.org/beta.html)
One of the new features (other than the usual slew of bug fixes) is a handy new massrenamer mode that will move entire directories, including all the non-audio files in them.
Awesome! Will test away.
the new tagging options of beta 5 :
can someone explain me how do i fix the problem of not seeing well several languages (hebrew in my case)?
if i re-write the tag manually i can see hebrew.
how do i change them all?
i cant rewrite all my thousands of files manually of course.
By rewrite, do you mean add in the Hebrew letters again. If that's what you have to do, I think that is your only option. Blame the program you originally tagged the files with.
so i should blame foobar 0.8.3?
so i should blame foobar 0.8.3?
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Blame yourself for enabling non-compliant mode in old foo_id3v2. People like you are exact reason why that option had to be removed.
Is there a changelog for the new beta?
so i should blame foobar 0.8.3?
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Blame yourself for enabling non-compliant mode in old foo_id3v2. People like you are exact reason why that option had to be removed.
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oh.
i didnt know that...
why is that option was there anyway?
so there's no other way to do it automaticlly? how can i rewrite thousands of files?!
is there any chance of setting the old behaviour, so i can e.g. tag my ac3 files including replaygain? and wav files.... i know its non-compilant, but helped a lot..
Hello,
Is there a FTP address to download the new beta?
Thanks in advance!
oh.
i didnt know that...
why is that option was there anyway?
Because too many people couldn't accept the fact that other programs where handling UTF-16 incorrectly instead of foobar. This caused tags written in foobar not being displayed correctly in other programs.
so there's no other way to do it automaticlly? how can i rewrite thousands of files?!
I don't know 100% sure if this is going to work but you could give it a go (on some backup files):
Open your files in the previous foobar release (0.8.3) in which you did see all tags correctly. Make sure you have the latest ID3v2 plugin (http://www.saunalahti.fi/cse/kode54/index.php). Set the proper ID3v2 settings in the prefs. I beleave
only "Write byte order mark (BOM) in all strings" should be enabled (someone correct me if I'm wrong). Select the files you want to "fix". Right-click your selection and click "Database - Rewrite tags from database".
Is there a FTP address to download the new beta?
It is available through HTTP. It is not clear to me why you would need FTP.
why is that option was there anyway?
so there's no other way to do it automaticlly? how can i rewrite thousands of files?!
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I'm not sure, but you may find more info by trying to search the forums with keywords like "id3v2 standard winamp". If i understood the situation right, then foobar uses id3v2 the way it is defined (using unicode). However, most other apps break the id3v2 standard by using the system-codepage instead, which may result in problems with non-ascii chars. Since most other players use the non-standard method, fb2k 0.8 provided a method to make fb2k as well "break the standard". And thats what you probably enabled.
[span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'][edit] Nevermind previous content, I should have checked sourcecode first. ID3v2 does *not* support system codepage encoding in the s tandard.[/span]
Most offending apps (read: Winamp) shove system codepage strings into fields labelled as ISO 8859-1. They should either convert that to actual ISO 8859-1 (stripping out most "non-standard" characters), or convert to one of unicode encodings supported by ID3v2 such as UTF-8.
Thank you for this new feature, it's verry verry usefull!!!!
Just wondering, is hardware mixing enabled by default in this beta?
[span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'][edit] Nevermind previous content, I should have checked sourcecode first. ID3v2 does *not* support system codepage encoding in the s tandard.[/span]
Most offending apps (read: Winamp) shove system codepage strings into fields labelled as ISO 8859-1. They should either convert that to actual ISO 8859-1 (stripping out most "non-standard" characters), or convert to one of unicode encodings supported by ID3v2 such as UTF-8.
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But, actually we had used those *non-standard*(we called) ID3v2 for many years (since win98, if i was not wrong)...
and, I don't think anybody would like to re-tag all (nearly ten years) MP3 collection . Those *non-standard* things already become another kind of *standard*, actually...
It's nice that 0.9beta5 has fixed the character problem in the
ID3v1. Yet, a same problem still exists in ID3v2.
IMHO, for more compliant ,it's better that foobar2000v0.9 can "read" those
ID3v2 *without* BOM( Write byte order mark) as non-unicode characters, just like how she read the
ID3v1 .
And treat the ID3v2 *WITH* BOM as unicode.
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Can beta 5 be installed safely over beta 4?
if i copy my config file from beta 4 to the beta 5 folder, will it affect any of the changes in beta 5?
Can beta 5 be installed safely over beta 4?
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yes it can be.
Is there a FTP address to download the new beta?
It is available through HTTP. It is not clear to me why you would need FTP.
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We're behind a firewall, we can't download anything, (exe, zip, pps, etc, etc)
Or any other possible way to download... thanks in advance.
But, actually we had used those *non-standard*(we called) ID3v2 for many years (since win98, if i was not wrong)...
and, I don't think anybody would like to re-tag all (nearly ten years) MP3 collection . Those *non-standard* things already become another kind of *standard*, actually...
I agree~
I was not one of the fortunate ones to have mp3's that have been tagged using the standard. In foobar, the tags were displayed improperly until I found out that if I clicked 'decode and write ISO-8859-1 tags using system codepage' and they all displayed properly. I know that as far as standards are concerned, this is probably wrong and shouldn't be done and slows the progress of universalizing a standard, but is there anyway that a checkbox like the one above will be introduced for those of us that have some non-standard tags--just an option that can read tags using the system codepage, not necessarily read them?
Sorry if that was a stupid question, but thanks for reading anyway~
We're behind a firewall, we can't download anything, (exe, zip, pps, etc, etc)
Or any other possible way to download... thanks in advance.
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ask your admin.
I've been testing the ability of the masstagger to move entire directories. It worked at first with the output file name format set to this:
\%artist% - %album%\%tracknumber% %title%
But when set to the following string it complains that all the files can't be found and refuses to move the files.
\%artist%\%album%\%tracknumber% %title%
This is on a network drive and permissions are set correctly (I can move the files manually from a command line)
Any ideas or am I missing something obvious?
thanks,
sean
is there any way to see if our bug submissions (in the bug thread) have been noted/fixed in the code? i know there are only beta releases and no cvs repository, but i am just curious to see whether or not some of the bugs have been accounted for. (there are several which were reported previously, but are not fixed in beta 5. i have zero expectations as far as when things get fixed -- peter rightfully can work on his own time. i do just hope that certain things will be fixed in the final release.
sidenote: and also, thanks peter! i'm very glad to see all the development going on.
fb2k is, by far, my favorite app, and has been for years now. thanks again for all the work put into it.
I really like the Tag writing preferences and I think it would be really interesting to have the same kind of option for tag Reading. By example we could say which tag format to read first, second...
so i should blame foobar 0.8.3?
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Blame yourself for enabling non-compliant mode in old foo_id3v2. People like you are exact reason why that option had to be removed.
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oh.
i didnt know that...
why is that option was there anyway?
so there's no other way to do it automaticlly? how can i rewrite thousands of files?!
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Can't you just set up a masstagger script to rewrite all your tags? That's what I did.
Basically, I just formatted the ARTIST tag with %artist%.
I miss the following functions:
The possibility to bind a key to a script or function of a script.
And the option to send a track to a playlist, without beeing asked wich playlist, so i can just press my key and the track is beeing send to a playlist which i choosed in the option menu for example..
You choose in the option menu a "default"-playlist where the track should be sent to an when you choose the option (lets name it Send To Playlist X) then the track will be sent without bothering you..
--Ano
And the option to send a track to a playlist, without beeing asked wich playlist, so i can just press my key and the track is beeing send to a playlist which i choosed in the option menu for example..[a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=310079"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]
This is implemented in foo_utils via the "Edit other" line of context menu commands which can also be bound to a keyboard shortcut.
Does anyone know how to change the font in "Properties" window? In 0.8 there used to be an option under Preferences\Display.
Does anyone know how to change the font in "Properties" window? In 0.8 there used to be an option under Preferences\Display.
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Click on the icon at the top left of the window, select "Font...".
Does anyone know how to change the font in "Properties" window? In 0.8 there used to be an option under Preferences\Display.
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Click on the icon at the top left of the window, select "Font...".
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Thanks, didn't notice it existed.
so i should blame foobar 0.8.3?
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Blame yourself for enabling non-compliant mode in old foo_id3v2. People like you are exact reason why that option had to be removed.
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oh.
i didnt know that...
why is that option was there anyway?
so there's no other way to do it automaticlly? how can i rewrite thousands of files?!
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Can't you just set up a masstagger script to rewrite all your tags? That's what I did.
Basically, I just formatted the ARTIST tag with %artist%.
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the soulution in the end was to change my tags from "id3v1 + id3v2" to "id3v1 + APEv2"
works great on both foobars.
foobar2000 v0.9 beta requires a Unicode capable version of the Windows operating system. It will not work on Windows 95, 98 or ME.
That's VERY SAD news... I've waited more than a year for a future release of foobar2000.. only to find out that I've waited in vain. I really hope U will reconsider making it compatible with 98SE/ ME because I'm pretty sure that there are still many users of those systems.
Foobar 0.8.3 had some problems on the systems that I've tested it.. but it shown great potential.. and was very promising... I really liked it..
I stumbled across foobar2000 about 2-3 years ago when I was reading some audio test (there were 2 soundcards compared).. I don't remember what the soundcards were neither the site but i remember that the reviewer said that he liked foobar2000 and that "mediaplayer is blasphemy for our ears" I personally totally dislike mediaplayer... so i gave foobar2000 a try.. it's nice and I had used it seldom... I was hoping to say goodbye for good to Winamp 2.91 once foobar2000 0.9 would have been released... but unfortunately I might say goodbye to foobar2000 instead...
foobar2000 v0.9 beta requires a Unicode capable version of the Windows operating system. It will not work on Windows 95, 98 or ME.
That's VERY SAD news... I've waited more than a year for a future release of foobar2000.. only to find out that I've waited in vain. I really hope U will reconsider making it compatible with 98SE/ ME because I'm pretty sure that there are still many users of those systems.
Foobar 0.8.3 had some problems on the systems that I've tested it.. but it shown great potential.. and was very promising... I really liked it..
I stumbled across foobar2000 about 2-3 years ago when I was reading some audio test (there were 2 soundcards compared).. I don't remember what the soundcards were neither the site but i remember that the reviewer said that he liked foobar2000 and that "mediaplayer is blasphemy for our ears" I personally totally dislike mediaplayer... so i gave foobar2000 a try.. it's nice and I had used it seldom... I was hoping to say goodbye for good to Winamp 2.91 once foobar2000 0.9 would have been released... but unfortunately I might say goodbye to foobar2000 instead...
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While the decision to drop Win9x is not yet final and the stable 0.9 version might support Win9x, you should really consider saying goodbye to Win98 instead.
you should really consider saying goodbye to Win98 instead.
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Well, I consider saying goodbye to Win98SE but when I'll do that I'll also say goodbye to Microsoft.. and I really doubt foobar2000 wil work under ANY Linux distro.
Win98SE was the best OS for me.. I have the right to a personal opinion.. and since I'm using computers for some 12 years I guess I know a thing or two and I have also own some 20+ PCs + laptops.. but that has nothing to do with foobar2000.
I gave Win XP a try and YES, for me it's CRAP; If U like it good for U. "()" ended.
Foobar2000 is a nice program.. I would prefer to still be using it. I hope foobar2000 will support Win98SE and ME.. that's why I have posted in the first place..
There are many reasons to drop support for Win9x/ME, not only the limited capabilities when it comes to Unicode and - for example - process isolation. (It's not nice, if a bug in your code forces you to reboot the machine. I had that happen a lot under Win98 when I implemented a custom window class for the first time.)
Another serious problem is that less and less component developers use and test under Win98, so if there were Win98 specific problems, they would likely not be noticed before the component is released, which is a very undesirable situation in my opinion.
Oh, I'd really appreciate it if you used proper English:
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I'm guessing I need a new version of foo_id3v2, so that I have the option not to tag in unicode?
Moved Operating system discussion (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=35380) to a new thread. If you want to cast a vote here for Win98 support, feel free to do so, but this thread is firstly and foremost about the 0.9 beta and not for OS wars.
Moved Operating system discussion (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=35380) to a new thread. If you want to cast a vote here for Win98 support, feel free to do so, but this thread is firstly and foremost about the 0.9 beta and not for OS wars.
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Sorry.. I was editing my last post when you changed the location.. I still hope you will consider the poll a good ideea..
I think this pertains to foobar and not to the OS thread, so I'll put it here. If anyone wants me to move it I will.
I'm not going to get into the whole 'what OS is the best' thing, nor do I believe that it is a possible argument to make, as we all have different computing needs. There is one reason why foobar should continue to run on Windows 98 however. It is known by almost the whole audio community as a low-resource player. Because of this, it is safe to assume that some people using foobar are running low-end and old computers. It is difficult to install a modern OS on such a computer. Whomever is in such a situation most likely will find a different free media player rather than forking over $250-300 minimum for a new computer just to use foobar. I cannot speak firsthand, but this seems to be the case with a lot of people.
I know this is not a major issue, but if wine compatibility was maintained it would be nice. In fact the windows version test in the foobar2000 v0.9 beta installer is not wine friendly anymore. Even if I set windows version to Windows 2000, wine remains detected as Windows 98.
Little bug, more like "highlight playing" glitch: If you start playing an item and remove it from playlist, and then add it back manually it won't be highlited. However, if you just undo after removing, it will be highlited normally.
Nothing big, but I thought I should mention it.
I know this is not a major issue, but if wine compatibility was maintained it would be nice. In fact the windows version test in the foobar2000 v0.9 beta installer is not wine friendly anymore. Even if I set windows version to Windows 2000, wine remains detected as Windows 98.
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I don't believe this was different in 0.8.3. I haven't tried it (since I haven't found WINE FC4 binary, and I'm too lazy to compile one myself), but does the program itself works better or worse than 0.8.3?
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This is not a bug, but intended behaviour. foobar2000 v0.9 keeps track of the playing track by its location in the playlist and highlights only that instance of the track. If you use undo, you get the original instance back. If you manually add the song, you get a new instance.
I don't believe this was different in 0.8.3. I haven't tried it (since I haven't found WINE FC4 binary, and I'm too lazy to compile one myself), but does the program itself works better or worse than 0.8.3?
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Damn, I forgot that I use the ANSI version. I can't remember why I installed this one; I'm gonna check this out...
[edit1:]It must be related to the new installer. There's probably some kind of dynamic choice between the unicode and ansi build in the old one, depending on the OS version. The new one must be unicode only.
[edit2:]
but does the program itself works better or worse than 0.8.3?
Does "it does not even installs" stands for working ?
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See the first post in this thread.
So I guess it will remain problematic as long as wine unicode support will remain buggy...
Is the next version to be released is 0.9 final? or beta 6?
is there expectation date\time?
the usual. "it'll be done when it's done."
Is the next version to be released is 0.9 final? or beta 6?
is there expectation date\time?
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You wouldn't try to hurry your mother when she's making your favourite dinner, would you?
foobar2000 is much the same. Peter's making it good, and that takes time.
thanks
but when she's making my favourite dinner i know what im expecting to.
so is the next is beta 6 or the final?
not a question of time
thanks
but when she's making my favourite dinner i know what im expecting to.
so is the next is beta 6 or the final?
not a question of time
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The last major change at .7 went into something like 40 betas. I wouldn't expect final for a little while yet (though given the relatively small number of bugs reported so far, I doubt it'll get to beta 40 either).
Just wondering, is there an estimated time for when 0.9 becomes non testing?
Just wondering, is there an estimated time for when 0.9 becomes non testing?
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Yep, the estimated time is...when its done.
I have a problem when I try to add directories to my playlist over a network share. It seems that the "Add directory" is not recursive to at least two levels. When I try to add the root "my music", foobar gives me an error, although i can load the artist subfolders, which therein contain album subfolders.
Thanks for looking at this problem.
I have a problem when I try to add directories to my playlist over a network share. It seems that the "Add directory" is not recursive to at least two levels. When I try to add the root "my music", foobar gives me an error, although i can load the artist subfolders, which therein contain album subfolders.
Thanks for looking at this problem.
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I've had a couple of problems that might be related.
Firstly - all my music is under a samba share on a linux box, but the clients have full permissions over the share. Adding the root of this share to the database doesn't work with the 0.9 betas - I have to add each child directory individually (\\seanyserver\music\singles, \\seanyserver\music\albums etc), otherwise I get a generic error.
Second - the new function to move whole directories doesn't work all the time. It is fine with a string like this
%artist% - %album%\$num(%tracknumber,2) %title%
However it fails saying that it can't find the source files with the following string:
%artist%\%album%\$num(%tracknumber,2) %title%
???
I think it doesn't matter even next version is beta 6 or final, both beta or final also included new functions and its not sure 100% bugs free.
Version numbers are unlimited, if now to say 0.9 released, maybe after few weeks also have next version (0.9999) for bugfixes or new function, you just can ask "When will a stable version available?" Heheee.
I always use the latest beta version if I think it is stable for me. If you afraid the word "beta" will cause some error, just use back 0.8.3 and wait until next stable version come out. Beta always use for lovers to test and help author find out the bugs or give suggestions.
The word "Beta" is only means "unfinished", it doesn't mean its a "Bugs Included" or "Unstable Version ", feel free try it and use it, if you feel its useful for you, just use it as your "current stable version" for insead last version.
Feel free check the "to-do" list wrote by author, and guess those function need how many days for programming.
"It'll be done when it's (ALL FUNCTIONS IN TO-DO LIST) done." is usual really...
P.S. I just hope ID3v2's coverart will be supported in foobar2k. If not supported, even the version 0.9 is released, I think always use the word "stable" for it better then "final", if not supported all the stantard formats and contents.
"Suggestions are unlimited, but time is scared."
(from eco books: "Wants are unlimited, but resources are scared.")
It has been said several times that ID3v2's coverart won't be suported.
edit: I was wrong, sorry.
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That is not correct. Binary tags are currently not supported, but it has been said at least once (on IRC) that it could be supported in the future.
The next release is planned to be beta 6. Neither the release date for beta 6 nor the number of betas before v0.9 final is known at this point. Discussing this matter or musing about the nature of beta versions time after time again is futile. Such idle chatter does not advance the project; it only clogs up this thread. I can understand that people are anxious to play with new stuff, but please be patient. You will be informed when a new version is released.
I think it doesn't matter even next version is beta 6 or final, both beta or final also included new functions and its not sure 100% bugs free.
Version numbers are unlimited, if now to say 0.9 released, maybe after few weeks also have next version (0.9999) for bugfixes or new function, you just can ask "When will a stable version available?" Heheee.
I always use the latest beta version if I think it is stable for me. If you afraid the word "beta" will cause some error, just use back 0.8.3 and wait until next stable version come out. Beta always use for lovers to test and help author find out the bugs or give suggestions.
The word "Beta" is only means "unfinished", it doesn't mean its a "Bugs Included" or "Unstable Version ", feel free try it and use it, if you feel its useful for you, just use it as your "current stable version" for insead last version.
Feel free check the "to-do" list wrote by author, and guess those function need how many days for programming.
"It'll be done when it's (ALL FUNCTIONS IN TO-DO LIST) done." is usual really...
P.S. I just hope ID3v2's coverart will be supported in foobar2k. If not supported, even the version 0.9 is released, I think always use the word "stable" for it better then "final", if not supported all the stantard formats and contents.
"Suggestions are unlimited, but time is scared."
(from eco books: "Wants are unlimited, but resources are scared.")
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i would use 0.9 even now but if it will have all the plugins.
i should have asked when will the SDK will be released
The SDK will be released with 0.9
Also, the new volume control seems to be very exponential in its shape, perhaps a little too much so? All the volume changes from 100% back to what appears to be very close to 0% occur in the top 20% (alright lets say 40-50% instead...) of the volume slider.
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It is very much non-exponential. It alters the gain linearly using a scale of decibels. You don't get more perceptually linear than that.
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Decibel scale is based on a logarithmic shape.
So that's not linear.
It is very much non-exponential. It alters the gain linearly using a scale of decibels. You don't get more perceptually linear than that.
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Decibel scale is based on a logarithmic shape.
So that's not linear.
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Please read my post and understand what I'm saying before attempting to "disprove" me in the future.
It alters
decibels linearly, providing
perceptual linearity. It is irrelevant what "shape" the decibel scale is based upon in reality; it provides linear response perceptually. You cannot have a more linear volume control than that.
Please confirm: The new masstagger appears to support slashes inside $if statements and square brackets.
I made up a string:
[%genre%\]$if(%album%,%artist%\%album%\%title%,%artist% - %title%)
and v0.9b5 didn't blow up like the 0.8.3 masstagger did.
If this is the case, I can *severely* shorten my massive script (http://www.tinkafoo.com/log/masstagger.html#scriptwriting)!
quazi: Confirmed.
sorry but I just couldn't bring myself up to read through all the 11 pages, so excuse possible repeated question, but does fb2k use SSRC 1.30 released recently? (either in current betas or future final) Or is the Resempler component something you guys made specifically yourselves?
As far as I am aware of, all SSRC 1.30 changes have been either already applied on our side (Spoon's patch) or didn't affect us (we don't use SSRC's dithering).
where's the author's todo?
I've got a problem here with the RG scanner...
I have enabled the option "skip files with RG info" and so I scan the whole database... with 0.8.3 it was quickly skipping the files with RG info and processing those few without... with 0.9 it takes ages for the scanner to skip the files containing RG...
Beta 6 is available for download. This is mostly a bugfix release addressing (at least) the following issues:
- Fixed: Scanning for files would abort upon encountering an unaccessible directory, it now skips to the next directory.
- Fixed: “Playlist/Remove duplicates” crashed when used on an empty playlist.
- Fixed: Invoking foobar2000 with commandline options could crash other applications including Microsoft Outlook and Windows Explorer.
Thanks!
No apl support?
Any idea when that may return? My entire collection is built upon apl files.
Thanks.
Looks clean anyway.
No apl support?
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APL support is included in foo_input_std. It is not listed under "Components" (in preferences), but there is an APL entry in "File types" (in preferences as well).
Are there any plans to incorporate directory monitoring like Winamp / WMP (and I'm sure others) provide?
I know that autoplaylists are available, however this would require fb2k to load up whole directory trees in a playlist would it not?
under media library settings there is a button rescan, pres it, alternatively you can assign a shortcut to foobar2000/Rescan library, and periodically pres it.
under media library settings there is a button rescan, pres it, alternatively you can assign a shortcut to foobar2000/Rescan library, and periodically pres it.
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Good workaround, however, why would I have to manually do that, when foobar (which is still in development) can add it as a feature (like I'd mentioned).
Sure, I can probably get around it (and I'm sure Autoplaylists help, as well as what you just mentioned), but don't enough people feel that there should be an option to have it automatically monitored? Not trying to compare with other players that have this option, since foobar is by far the most versatile and useful media player that I know of, but I just feel it's lacking this and there is the possibility to add it without much trouble. I mean, at the least even if its by doing what you just said, it would be more convenient to have it done automatically for us by the program (this could be an option you can toggle on/off).
[edit: made it more coherent]
When the SDK for 0.9 is released, foo_scheduler will probably be updated. This should make automated media library scanning possible.
under media library settings there is a button rescan, pres it, alternatively you can assign a shortcut to foobar2000/Rescan library, and periodically pres it.
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Good workaround, however, why would I have to manually do that, when foobar (which is still in development) can add it as a feature (like I'd mentioned).
Sure, I can probably get around it (and I'm sure Autoplaylists help, as well as what you just mentioned), but don't enough people feel that there should be an option to have it automatically monitored? Not trying to compare with other players that have this option, since foobar is by far the most versatile and useful media player that I know of, but I just feel it's lacking this and there is the possibility to add it without much trouble. I mean, at the least even if its by doing what you just said, it would be more convenient to have it done automatically for us by the program (this could be an option you can toggle on/off).
[edit: made it more coherent]
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you could also write a small batchfile to scan the library, then add it to the windows scheduler
I would LOVE to see folder exclusion rules (for subfolders of included folders).
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<--- Agree's this is one of the major things that I miss from the previous release, my second was the auto-file-type assosiation which got added in this version, hurray!
No apl support?
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APL support is included in foo_input_std. It is not listed under "Components" (in preferences), but there is an APL entry in "File types" (in preferences as well).
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Ah, ok then. It is broken. For me anyway.
All apl entries show up in playlists as the filename with '???' as the time.
Here is a snap from Beta 6:
(http://ghammer.net/apl-96.png)
And here is the same from 0.8.3
(http://ghammer.net/apl-83.png)
I have a small feature request
When doing a Speed Test (via Utils --> Decoding speed test)
If one of the files processed has an error (e.g. a sync error) the error is displayed in the console but the filename is not displayed making it impossible to determine which file(s) contain error(s). Would it be possible to add the filename to the console before the error messages (similar to 0.8.3 with foo_null) or alternatively adding a "Error report" to the results section of the speed test.
beta 6 is very nice! i can tell fb2k v0.9 is going to be well worth the wait~
but i was wondering... in beta 5 there was an option in the file renamer that allowed foobar to be able to move all non music files in a folder along with the music files. is there something similar to this is beta 6 or was it removed?
thanks in advance!
The option to move entire directories is still there. Why do you ask?
i'm just curious when will the final be out?
when it's done.
[span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'](will people ever learn? )[/span]
The option to move entire directories is still there. Why do you ask?
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i was asking because in my foobar beta 6, the only option i have (i think) that has similar function to the one in beta 5 that i was talking about is called, 'move entire parent directories, preserve structure and filenames.' that's ok i guess, but the problem is, it doesn't allow my current naming scheme to change the actual filename, so i guess i'd just have to use the mass-renamer twice~ once to move the songs and all the non-music files in that folder to the directory of my choice, and once again to actually rename the songs to the format my code dictates
Edit:
i'm just realizing that not even beta 5 could quite do what i was asking for. that's ok though, because i found a workaround. plus i think the workaround works better than the way that i had initially wanted it.. if that makes sense >.>
oh, and i tried to use this piece of code in a renaming scheme:
$if(%disc%,disc %disc%\,)
what i was hoping that would do was if i made a disc tag in an mp3, like.. %disc% = i then if such a tag existed, foobar would create a subdirectory like 'disc i' but only if the %disc% tag existed, else it would not create the extra directory.
i thought that would work, but for some reason i can't quite figure out... it would do something like artist - album\disc ii\disc ii\disc ii\disc ii\disc ii\disc ii\disc ii\disc ii\disc ii\something.mp3
i couldnt figure out why it did crazy nestings (btw, this directory was created in a non-english named folder), so i just changed the code to $if(%cd%,%cd%\,)
where CD = disc i ~not~ DISC = i
when it's done.
[span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'](will people ever learn? )[/span]
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ok so when will it be done? nah i'm jk
The triangle next to track length (when playing) in 0.8 was great. Now if I select other track than is now playing I don't see actual track. Dark blue color do not contrast with black.
Eh, I don't know if this has been mentioned already or if this is the right topic, but in the main context menu, ReplayGain is written as ReplayGain, but in ReplayGain's submenu ReplayGain is written all lowercase, like this: "Remove replaygain info from files". Is it just a tiny typographical issue, or is it intended to be like this for some reason? Any chance it will be changed?
The triangle next to track length (when playing) in 0.8 was great. Now if I select other track than is now playing I don't see actual track. Dark blue color do not contrast with black.
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Add
$if(%isplaying%,> )
directly after
$tab()
in your title formatting.
so in beta6, is queue visible somehow?
When the SDK for 0.9 is released, foo_scheduler will probably be updated. This should make automated media library scanning possible.
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When the SDK is released, foo_uie_explorer.dll will hopefully be soon available.
On the ReplayGain scanner result window:
Please make this optional.
Reason: I often start the replaygain process, leave the pc. When I'm back I expect fb2k to have the job done. But after clicking OK in the scanner esult window, foobar does apply its calculations and this can also be time consuming. (Sometimes it has to write the complete stream, probably depending on the tag type?).
On the ReplayGain scanner result window:
Please make this optional.
Reason: I often start the replaygain process, leave the pc. When I'm back I expect fb2k to have the job done. But after clicking OK in the scanner esult window, foobar does apply its calculations and this can also be time consuming. (Sometimes it has to write the complete stream, probably depending on the tag type?).
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i second this.
Also if you comp crashes while your scanning in mutlple album mode on alot of albums you need to start scanning from scratch again.
maybe the scanner result window could be disabled just when using
scan selection as multiple albums?
Or add an option: "Add the the rg values, if no errors were found."
Hi.
I've searched the forum and didn't find a solution for this playback problem I have with beta 6:
Every time I insert
any audio cd into my drive and choose to open it in foobar I get an error and this dialog pops up:
Error opening file for decoding (Generic Error):
cdda://0203DC8B,01
Followed by this:
Unable to read info from files:
"cdda://0203DC8B,01" (0) - Generic Error
"cdda://0203DC8B,02" (0) - Generic Error
"cdda://0203DC8B,03" (0) - Generic Error
"cdda://0203DC8B,04" (0) - Generic Error
"cdda://0203DC8B,05" (0) - Generic Error
"cdda://0203DC8B,06" (0) - Generic Error
"cdda://0203DC8B,07" (0) - Generic Error
"cdda://0203DC8B,08" (0) - Generic Error
"cdda://0203DC8B,09" (0) - Generic Error
"cdda://0203DC8B,10" (0) - Generic Error
"cdda://0203DC8B,11" (0) - Generic Error
"cdda://0203DC8B,12" (0) - Generic Error
"cdda://0203DC8B,13" (0) - Generic Error
"cdda://0203DC8B,14" (0) - Generic Error
"cdda://0203DC8B,15" (0) - Generic Error
"cdda://0203DC8B,16" (0) - Generic Error
"cdda://0203DC8B,17" (0) - Generic Error
"cdda://0203DC8B,18" (0) - Generic Error
"cdda://0203DC8B,19" (0) - Generic Error
"cdda://0203DC8B,20" (0) - Generic Error
"cdda://0203DC8B,21" (0) - Generic Error
"cdda://0203DC8B,22" (0) - Generic Error
I have tried a dozen of my cd's, and the problem still remains... Windows Media Player 10 opens them without any problem...
Could someone help?
Thanks for your time.
same problem here
EDIT: hi everyone by the way, new around these forums. on a side note, are there any foobar skins?
Will 0.9 support alternative output plugins? I can't see any interface for them in current beta.. Missing Kernel Streaming too much..
i hope so. i need asio-support.
Sorry if this has been answered before, but with fb2k v0.83 i was able to do the following from commandline arguments to instruct fb2k to do something e.g.
C:\Program Files\foobar2000_09_6\foobar2000.exe /next
this would go to the next track.
this does not seem to work in the new beta fb2k, has this been removed from the new version, or have the commands been changed?
please help
AlexanderTG: works for me.
anyway try foobar2000.exe /help
Is the mpeg4 converter/extractor (foo_mpeg4u.dll in v0.8.3) going to be added to foobar2000 v0.9 or is it already implemented in v0.9?
Is the mpeg4 converter/extractor (foo_mpeg4u.dll in v0.8.3) going to be added to foobar2000 v0.9 or is it already implemented in v0.9?
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It is not implemented in 0.9 at the moment and it isn't sure yet wether it will be implemented.
Is the mpeg4 converter/extractor (foo_mpeg4u.dll in v0.8.3) going to be added to foobar2000 v0.9 or is it already implemented in v0.9?
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It is not implemented in 0.9 at the moment and it isn't sure yet wether it will be implemented.
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Thanks, picmixer!
Is new SDK will be awailable only with release?
And can we await it (SDK, in any case) soon?
Is new SDK will be awailable only with release?
And can we await it (SDK, in any case) soon?
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This question has been asked an answered a very large number of times.
and the reply is always the same but people seem to be a bit too impatient at times
-daz
MSLU. Unicows.dll.
The Windows98/9x Unicode solution??
http://www.google.com/search?q=mslu+unicow...=utf-8&oe=utf-8 (http://www.google.com/search?q=mslu+unicows.dll&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8)
We aren't going to Linux, are we? Good, then we can stick to proprietary solutions.
Will there be a 'special installer' version of 0.9 final?
Moved discussion about CD playback bug to the bug report (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=34321) thread.
I'm about to rip my entire CD collection to FLAC disk images with imbedded cuesheets and I've noticed that foorbar 8.3 doesnt handle the tagging of individual tracks - it only tags the whole album.
beta 6 on the other hand seems to handle this by updating the image with explicit tags of all the information currently included in entire album tags as well as the new tags for the track, all named so as to point to the relevant track
that could really be worded better, but anyway.....can I expect this behavior to be unaltered for the final release? it would be kind of annoying to rely on it for management purposes and then have my entire collection be obsoleted.
is it possible (when 0.9 will be in final version) to make some program to convert configuration from 0.8.3 into 0.9 ???
becouse "rewriting" all this setting will be horrible ;(
I'm about to rip my entire CD collection to FLAC disk images with imbedded cuesheets and I've noticed that foorbar 8.3 doesnt handle the tagging of individual tracks - it only tags the whole album.
beta 6 on the other hand seems to handle this by updating the image with explicit tags of all the information currently included in entire album tags as well as the new tags for the track, all named so as to point to the relevant track
that could really be worded better, but anyway.....can I expect this behavior to be unaltered for the final release? it would be kind of annoying to rely on it for management purposes and then have my entire collection be obsoleted.
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I certainly hope that this excessive tagging behavior will be made optional in the final release. Here's why:
- All of this added tag information is redundant. fb2k already dynamically maps all of the information contained in the CUESHEET tag to individual tracks within its tagz system. So there's nothing gained in terms of funcationality
- The FLAC image file is cluttered with a few hundred useless and superfluous CUE_* Vorbis comment tags
- fb2k takes in excess of 10 minutes to add all those tags and write them to disk and does so without first prompting the user when any Vorbis comment tag is altered. The reason it takes so long seems to be that fb2k insists on rewriting the whole file about half a dozen times as part of the process (even if there's plenty of padding space available within the image).
- There is a major bug in beta 6 with compilation (various artists) type CD images that destroys all individual track artist information (PERFORMER label in cue sheet) and even corrupts the CUESHEET tag accordingly whenever any tag is altered.
I certainly hope that this excessive tagging behavior will be made optional in the final release. Here's why:
- All of this added tag information is redundant. fb2k already dynamically maps all of the information contained in the CUESHEET tag to individual tracks within its tagz system. So there's nothing gained in terms of funcationality
- The FLAC image file is cluttered with a few hundred useless and superfluous CUE_* Vorbis comment tags
- fb2k takes in excess of 10 minutes to add all those tags and write them to disk and does so without first prompting the user when any Vorbis comment tag is altered. The reason it takes so long seems to be that fb2k insists on rewriting the whole file about half a dozen times as part of the process (even if there's plenty of padding space available within the image).
- There is a major bug in beta 6 with compilation (various artists) type CD images that destroys all individual track artist information (PERFORMER label in cue sheet) and even corrupts the CUESHEET tag accordingly whenever any tag is altered.
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I agree that the CUE_* Vorbis comment tags do clutter the file up somewhat and I have experienced the ridiculous delay while it writes to disk; and that bug is pretty bad.
In respect to the dynamic reading of the CUESHEET tag, that works fine for reading tags that you got from the original rip or wherever, but in terms of getting new indivudual track tags, it seems to me that that's gonna mean directly editing the cue sheet tag in either foobar (which looks like a complete mess for me due to unix text) or via metaflac; both of which are rather clunky.
Having said that, wouldn't it be relatively easy to modify the tag editor so that it detects the occurance of a cuesheet and have the option of writing a global tag for the whole file or writing a 'tag' for the individual track by modifying the cuesheet?
Beta 7 released. The usual place.
Have fun
Changelog:
-Various bug fixes, fixed AAC streaming, faster tagging of multi-chapter files
The Visualization is quite a jerky. Tryed with 44fps and 85fps. Monitor Refreshrate is 85 Hz. CPU load is under 20% at all times with Resampler and dithering in foobar. No difference between audio format's. I have CPU idle running, if it does make any difference that normal Windows system idle process is 'disabled'.
Thank You foosion.
For fullfilling my request, need to experiment.
kode54 update foo_osd please.
Beta 7 released. The usual place.
Have fun
Changelog:
-Various bug fixes, fixed AAC streaming, faster tagging of multi-chapter files
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The beta 6 compatible versions of columns_ui and freedb don't appear to work with beta 7, or am I missing something?
The beta 6 compatible versions of columns_ui and freedb don't appear to work with beta 7, or am I missing something?[a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=323290"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]
That's right. You can get updated versions of foo_freedb and my other components at my beta page (see signature for link).
foosion when random entry is playing the tags apear on title, but not tray's tooltip (both have same formating)
Cue sheets don't seem to work anymore
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I made a separate thread for foo_random, so please use that for discussion about it instead of spamming the beta thread with posts that have nothing to do with the beta itself.
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The cue sheet parser no longer accepts errors. Your cue sheets are malformed.
Beta thread syndrome: a special case of mass idiocy infecting large numbers of forum members. Symptoms:
- Inability to write correct tech support questions or problem reports
- Inability to start new threads - everything needs to go to single thread that becomes impossible to make any sense of
- Inability to choose appropriate thread to reply to