Are there any music players for Linux that are similar to Foobar2000?
Not yet. Lots of people are hoping.
Tip: Try "Linux AND Foobar2000" in that searchbox above....
Are there any music players for Linux that are similar to Foobar2000?
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And what's the problem ??? foobar perfectly worx under Wine (I've tryed under FC2/3 and debian), so use it for ya pleasure
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You forgot to add "in vain" to the end of your sentence.
I have never had a whole lot of luck with Wine but I haven't tried fb under it so I can't say for it.
I have never had a whole lot of luck with Wine but I haven't tried fb under it so I can't say for it.
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Wine rocks - it even runs Buzz, a highly unstable and cranky yet wonderful music program. Wine is definitely worth the bit of a push it sometimes needs to get going.
Sorry to revive this more than 1-year-old thread unasked for, I stumbled upon it when searching. But I just wanted to put in a word for amarok. It is so nicely scriptable; you can for example install a script that converts your playlist or individual tracks to MP3, AAC, MPC, you name it - or a script for replaygain or tag editing. Fix MP3s. Get tags. Guess tags. ABX-comparison.
It is not so stellarly far away from foobar2k in its scope.
See here: http://kde-apps.org/?xcontentmode=56 (http://kde-apps.org/?xcontentmode=56)
So, that off my chest, feel free to delete it, moderator.
Yeah, I've been using amaroK for a while now, and it's a great program!
AmaroK shows all kinds of statistical data about your tracks (how many times you have played your tracks, your favourite tracks and so on...)
It also diskpalys CD covers and it has a web interface so amaroK finds lyrics for the track being played..
A great piece of software.
Another vote for Amarok here, It's a great little program. Shame it's for KDE which isn't my DE of choice but worth the load time all the same.
Just thought I'd point out that the 0.9 series will not install under wine - it complains of needing windows 2000 or newer even when wine is set to appear as windows 2000. Unless you have a copy of windows installed, or someone provides a non-installer download, foobar2000 on wine is becoming rather difficult to get working.
I didn't have much trouble installing foobar with Wine. Even the latest RC versions. Functionality is great, but playback jitters if I multitask.
So I use foobar to tag and sort. And I use XMMS with an XMMS-MAD plugin that reads ReplayGain info (http://perso.crans.org/~krempp/xmms-mad/) from APEV2 tags to listen.
Just tried Amarok the other night, but couldn't figure out how to make the ReplayGain script to work. It's probably just me. It is a very pretty player, that's for sure.
By gum, it seems to work now.. could have been a wine bug (there are a few...). With wine 0.9.9 and a reuse of winecfg the installer seems happy (windows version set to win XP).
I used to ignore foobar2000, but after some time using, and discovering the features it carries, no way I'd go back to winamp or anything else... foobar2000 is simply the best audio player... and it's really a SHAME there's no linux port!
Well, its not very hard to get Foobar2000 running in WINE, infact really quite easy.. but if you are using GNOME or something else other than KDE and don't want to use amaroK, I really suggest Quod Libet, its a fanastic feature rich app with tag editing much like Foobar's too.
I came across Banshee (http://www.banshee-project.org/Main_Page) the other day, and thought it a dead ringer for Foobar2000, but I couldn't google up a connection between the two, so perhaps it's just coincidental.
I came across Banshee (http://www.banshee-project.org/Main_Page) the other day, and thought it a dead ringer for Foobar2000, but I couldn't google up a connection between the two, so perhaps it's just coincidental.
Banshee is a project in Mono (OS implementation of the .NET framework), oriented heavily on iTunes. It's simple, fast and supports my DAP, my favourite player ATM. Though it cannot compare to the broad scope of functions that foobar or amaroK offer.
Nothing I've found matches foobar atm.
Nothing I've found matches foobar atm.
For playback, IMHO amaroK does great. But, for advanced tagging and stuff, fb2k under WINE (which works just perfectly for me) is the best option.
Maybe "Quod Libet".
http://www.sacredchao.net/quodlibet (http://www.sacredchao.net/quodlibet)
It got many built-in layouts, http://www.sacredchao.net/quodlibet/wiki/Screenshots (http://www.sacredchao.net/quodlibet/wiki/Screenshots).
I personally don't really like Amarok so, while it's limited in features, I'm sticking to Rhythmbox (although having a look at Banshee, as well).
Sorry to grave dig, but I'm new to linux and have been a long time foobar lover.
I too have ended up with Amarak, and while I'm finding it great in many respects, the one thing I'm really missing is the extensibility of inputs that you get with foobar2000.
I want to be able to play all the emulated/video game music formats in addition to my MP3/M4A and OGG files...
Someone care to enlighten me on what would be best to play USF/SPC/VGM/GSF and Game Cube ADPCM streams?
At the moment I have Winamp5 running under wine, which I absolutely despise after using fb2k... but it has the plugin support for those formats an runs better than I can get fb2k running in wine.
Oh and I'm running Ubuntu 7.04 Feisty Fawn... because I'm a Linux noob!
So any alternatives, or can you guide me in getting fb2k to play nice with wine?
I never tried it in wine, but on Windows the application DeliPlayer (http://www.deliplayer.com)is very good (unfortunately discontinued, but still very nice).
Sorry to grave dig, but I'm new to linux and have been a long time foobar lover.
I too have ended up with Amarak, and while I'm finding it great in many respects, the one thing I'm really missing is the extensibility of inputs that you get with foobar2000.
I want to be able to play all the emulated/video game music formats in addition to my MP3/M4A and OGG files...
Someone care to enlighten me on what would be best to play USF/SPC/VGM/GSF and Game Cube ADPCM streams?
At the moment I have Winamp5 running under wine, which I absolutely despise after using fb2k... but it has the plugin support for those formats an runs better than I can get fb2k running in wine.
Oh and I'm running Ubuntu 7.04 Feisty Fawn... because I'm a Linux noob!
So any alternatives, or can you guide me in getting fb2k to play nice with wine?
Since a couple of versions of wine ago I am using foobar2000 for playback in linux. No problems at all with skipping. Here (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=54933) is the post explaining how to get foobar2000 going in wine.
For me, a major problem is that a ton of my music collection was naively ripped to .ape (Monkey's Audio) many years before I considered Linux a viable desktop OS. I have tracked down a deb repository that packages libmac2, monkeys-audio, and xmms-mac, but XMMS is pretty ugly (with native x menus, etc.). I did then also find beep-media-player (bmp), which is kind of an xmms clone using gtk, and supports xmms plugins (so I can play .ape), but after using foobar2000 for many years on Windows, bmp just pales in comparison. (For the uninitiated, xmms, and subsequently bmp, are basically Winamp look-alikes.)
I've read that amarok can support xmms plugins, but like a few of the others above, I'm using Gnome, so I'd prefer a gtk solution if possible. I think the eventual answer is that I should write a script to convert all my .ape files to .flac (and just pray and hope that I don't mess something up and lose dozens of gigs of lossless rips I've probably spent a combined time measured in days ripping, etc.), but in the meantime, amarok is probably going to be my answer.
For me, a major problem is that a ton of my music collection was naively ripped to .ape (Monkey's Audio) many years before I considered Linux a viable desktop OS. I have tracked down a deb repository that packages libmac2, monkeys-audio, and xmms-mac, but XMMS is pretty ugly (with native x menus, etc.). I did then also find beep-media-player (bmp), which is kind of an xmms clone using gtk, and supports xmms plugins (so I can play .ape), but after using foobar2000 for many years on Windows, bmp just pales in comparison. (For the uninitiated, xmms, and subsequently bmp, are basically Winamp look-alikes.)
I've read that amarok can support xmms plugins, but like a few of the others above, I'm using Gnome, so I'd prefer a gtk solution if possible. I think the eventual answer is that I should write a script to convert all my .ape files to .flac (and just pray and hope that I don't mess something up and lose dozens of gigs of lossless rips I've probably spent a combined time measured in days ripping, etc.), but in the meantime, amarok is probably going to be my answer.
Install gmusicbrowser and compile the latest mplayer svn and ffpmeg svn. Then choose the mplayer backend in gmusicbrowser and you'll be able to play all your APE files.
Oh and its a GTK app too.
Not to mention Amarok has a nice last.fm-plugin (which is somewhat broken now - you can't change last-fm-radio tracks)
For me, a major problem is that a ton of my music collection was naively ripped to .ape (Monkey's Audio) many years before I considered Linux a viable desktop OS. I have tracked down a deb repository that packages libmac2, monkeys-audio, and xmms-mac, but XMMS is pretty ugly (with native x menus, etc.). I did then also find beep-media-player (bmp), which is kind of an xmms clone using gtk, and supports xmms plugins (so I can play .ape), but after using foobar2000 for many years on Windows, bmp just pales in comparison. (For the uninitiated, xmms, and subsequently bmp, are basically Winamp look-alikes.)
I've read that amarok can support xmms plugins, but like a few of the others above, I'm using Gnome, so I'd prefer a gtk solution if possible. I think the eventual answer is that I should write a script to convert all my .ape files to .flac (and just pray and hope that I don't mess something up and lose dozens of gigs of lossless rips I've probably spent a combined time measured in days ripping, etc.), but in the meantime, amarok is probably going to be my answer.
Install gmusicbrowser and compile the latest mplayer svn and ffpmeg svn. Then choose the mplayer backend in gmusicbrowser and you'll be able to play all your APE files.
Oh and its a GTK app too.
Interesting to see that someone did the same with APE as me.
I ripped many CD with CUESheets + APE in the past years to replay them on my laptop while being on business trips. Meanwhile I slipped from WinOS to Ubuntu (7.10), too because it fulfills my needs perfectly.
I managed once replaying (single) APE's with CUE's on XMMS on Ubuntu 7.04 (that was far from a playlist like in foobar). After upgrading (fresh install) to 7.10 I didn't managed it again.
Before I start with the gmusicbrowser I want to ask, if the CUESheet replay support works on APE/FLAC/WV?
Thank you
daphy
Before I start with the gmusicbrowser I want to ask, if the CUESheet replay support works on APE/FLAC/WV?
From the gmusicbrowser FAQ:
Does gmusicbrowser support cue sheets ?
Not currently, but I plan to.
There is a very limited support with this plugin, it adds a context view which displays the cuesheet of the playing file (if it has the same filename with the .cue extension), and allows you to skip to the different tracks. But gmusicbrowser will still see the file as a single song.
Here (http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=1821324&forum_id=493124) the developer spoke about APE support. I don't know if you want to compile the ffmpeg yourself
Here (http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=1821324&forum_id=493124) the developer spoke about APE support. I don't know if you want to compile the ffmpeg yourself
Yeah, im the anonymous guy.
ffmpeg and mplayer are not hard to compile and are much better then the versions in the repository.
I've never managed to get foobar running perfectly in wine, and i've never found anything that comes close to a foobar replacement in linux. It's a massive shame that there is no foobar port, anyone know why this is? I can't believe the best audio app of them all is only available on crappy old windows!
As far as I remember, there's no foobar port for Linux because the foobar devs simply aren't interested in one. Since they give us foobar for free I don't think we're in a position to complain.
Now what I don't understand is why nobody has written something similar for Linux yet. Given the configurabilty hunger of the average Linux user, I'm puzzled by the extreme lack of any settings in Linux audio players (even Amarok doesn't have more then a dozen configuration options, and KDE is supposed to be especially for the tweakers).
The latest few versions of Wine seem to run Foobar great now. There were a few GUI bugs in the past but it seems to run much better now!
How about a player for Linux that is truly gapless in playback and plays back (with extremely high quality output), among other things:
Almost all sample based, uncompressed, formats (WAV, AIFF, AU etc)
MOD audio files (MOD, S3M, XM, IT, etc.)
FLAC
APE
MPEG Audio (including MP3 of course)
Ogg Vorbis
Musepack
Wavpack
Speex
AC3
AAC
WMA
Pretty much anything you can throw at it
Podcasts
Internet radio
CD's
LADSPA plugin support
encodes (including ripping CD's/DVD's on the fly) to
WAV
FLAC
OGG VORBIS
MP3 (via LAME)
Built-in Tagger
Ability to convert sample rates between the input file and the output device, from downsampling by a factor of 12 to upsampling by the same factor. The best converter provides a signal-to-noise ratio of 97dB with -3dB passband extending from DC to 96% of the theoretical best bandwidth for a given pair of input and output sample rates.
It's not Foobar - yet. But it's still (late) beta. (new beta due out by XMAS - I'm running SVN ). You can always help enhance it. Check it out.
http://aqualung.sourceforge.net/ (http://aqualung.sourceforge.net/)
There's also a Windows port, if anyone cares
Looks good. The only problem I have with it is that it uses skins, and I prefer only to skin my OS and have the programs follow those changes automatically. What GUI toolkit does it use by the way?
Looks good. The only problem I have with it is that it uses skins, and I prefer only to skin my OS and have the programs follow those changes automatically. What GUI toolkit does it use by the way?
I believe it's GTK+.
Looks good. The only problem I have with it is that it uses skins, and I prefer only to skin my OS and have the programs follow those changes automatically. What GUI toolkit does it use by the way?
The latest beta is now officially out. One of the features is:
Option to disable skin support (for themed environments)Here's the entire announcement:
The Aqualung development team is pleased to announce the latest
release of the Aqualung music player.
Aqualung is an advanced music player originally targeted at the
GNU/Linux operating system, today also running on FreeBSD, OpenBSD and
Microsoft Windows. It plays audio CDs, internet radio streams and
podcasts as well as soundfiles in just about any audio format and has
the feature of inserting no gaps between adjacent tracks.
The ChangeLog lists major new features and is included below.
Packagers, please note that from this release, TagLib is no longer a
dependency of Aqualung.
Website: http://aqualung.sf.net (http://aqualung.sf.net)
Enjoy,
Tom
2007-12-19 Tom Szilagyi <tszilagyi at users dot sourceforge dot
net>
* Aqualung 0.9beta9
http://aqualung.sf.net (http://aqualung.sf.net)
This is a major release bringing significant new functionality and
many important fixes. All users are encouraged to upgrade.
As always, the up-to-date User Manual is available at:
http://aqualung.sourceforge.net/?tab=docs (http://aqualung.sourceforge.net/?tab=docs)
Major additions:
* Fundamentally new Metadata system, using native decoders and private
code instead of TagLib to provide complete support for reading and
writing metadata, including ID3v1, ID3v2.3, ID3v2.4, APE, Ogg Xiph
comments and FLAC picture frames, as well as read-only support for
ReplayGain in Musepack stream data and various metadata received in
internet radio streams. Aqualung also provides a batch tagger facility
to quickly propagate Music Store metadata to file metadata.
* Support for podcasts. Aqualung can subscribe to RSS and Atom audio
podcasts, and automatically download and add new files to the Music
Store. Optional limits for the age, size and number of downloaded
files can be set.
* Support for exporting files from Music Store or Playlist with audio
transcoding and intelligent metadata transfer. Useful for burning your
favourite tracks to CD, filling your portable player, etc.
* Aqualung now compiles and runs on OpenBSD.
* Smoother skin changing.
* Option to disable skin support (for themed environments).
* Lots of fixes, cleanups & refactoring.
DROPPED DEPENDENCIES:
* TagLib is not used anymore.
A new promising player for linux: http://squentin.free.fr/gmusicbrowser/download.html (http://squentin.free.fr/gmusicbrowser/download.html)
Its okay, same with amarok and mpd and a quodlibet and banshee. They're all getting there but not quite there.
I often miss replaygain. That is really a pitty.
In none of the linux players I find perfect (=absolutely clickless in all circumstances) gapless playback of lame encoded mp3s, even not with Aqualung which is allegedly designed for gapless playback. I find mpd (with Sonata) currently the best option as a media player. Gapless is (nearly for lame mp3s) perfect and it supports replaygain. As a major annoyance: it reads only id2 version replay gain tags while mp3gain only writes ape style tags. Strange: this could al be so much better with open source.
the best player on linux in my opinion is gmusicbrowser! and i tried lots of them.
it's what comes closest to foobar2000. at least concerning the features i consider important.
i recently made the switch to linux and was surprised, that nothing came close to foobar, i was trying player after player. finally i found gmusicbrowser, which is good for now. there are some features i am missing, maybe i will make some suggestions to the developer.
i still consider running foobar under wine, but that would involve lots of new configuring because my foobar doesn't run under wine. and as far as i tried with a new installation, it works, but it's not the same. a bit annoying.
"They're all trying to getting there, but not reaching the goal?"
Not with rhythmbox. I still love the fb2k-like interface with this one.
Hell yeah, once I have plenty of time I could maybe try to compile rhythmbox for cygwin! )
Cygwin GNOME is already reality, so why not try that!
This one will definitely not display a shiny GTK+ message window sometime saying: Sorry, this application needs Windows XP and above.
Sorry for the necro, but I want to throw another vote in here for gmusicbrowser (http://squentin.free.fr/gmusicbrowser/gmusicbrowser.html). However, the catch is that you need to install the latest version (http://squentin.free.fr/gmusicbrowser/devel.html) intead of the stable version in order to have gapless playback.
On a debian system you can use the tarball to build a .deb by issuing dpkg-buildpackage from inside the directory you unpack. As another note, for a while I thought the build process was not working; however the resulting .deb pops out in the parent directory (../).
I tried quodlibet and aqualung, and neither of them seem to deal with accessing a large music library over a network particularly well. I let Aqualung chug for an hour trying to load my music library, and when it stopped it had managed to load about 5% of it successfully. Gmusicbrowser on the other hand gives me exactly what I want - high performance dealing with large numbers of files, and a Music Library + Contextual Playlist layout.
On my Linux media center (which is audio-only) I'm running ArchLinux, managing a database of approx. 85.000 songs.
For playback I have gmusicbrowser (latest development snaphot, built from git) and Foobar2000 via wine. Each one has it pros and cons to be sure, but IMHO gmusicbrowser is by far the best native Linux music manager. Too bad that for now gapless is working only with the ugly+buggy gstreamer backend- I'd rather use the mplayer backend instead...
For live streams I'm using gxine, which is buggy and unstable- I will surely dispose it when gmusicbrowser adds radio to its features (promised by the program author).
And of course there is always mpd+gmpc, which is a great combo.
A big feature that I miss from my foobar days is the ability to drag a folder and drop it on the player shortcut and have all the songs load AND start playing the first. So far it seems only VLC and my favorite so far, Decibel, do this properly.
perhaps in the future they will DeaDBeef
http://deadbeef.sourceforge.net/ (http://deadbeef.sourceforge.net/)
* mp3, ogg vorbis, flac, ape, wv, wav
* ID3v1, ID3v2.2, ID3v2.3, ID3v2.4, APEv2, xing/info tags support
* character set detection for non-unicode id3 tags - supports cp1251 and iso8859-1
* unicode tags are fully supported as well (both utf8 and ucs2)
* cuesheet support for mp3, ogg, flac, ape
* autodetection of utf8/cp1251/iso8859-1 charsets in cuesheets
* sid and some popular chiptune formats like nsf
* tracker modules like mod, s3m, it, xm, etc
* HVSC song length database support for sid
* gtk2 interface with custom highly speed/memory optimized widgets
* no GNOME or KDE dependencies - just gtk2 and several small libraries
* minimize to tray, with scrollwheel volume control
* drag and drop, both inside of playlist, and from filemanagers and such
* control playback from command line (allows global hotkeys using xbindkeys)
* seeking works in all supported formats
* plugin support; ships with several standard plugins, such as global hotkeys and last.fm scrobbler; sdk is included
* duration calculation is as precise as possible for vbr mp3 files (with and without xing/info tags)
* was tested and works on x86, x86_64 and ppc64 architectures. should work on most modern platforms
(http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/thumb/32954/screenshot_001_qhx1B2.jpg) (http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/32954/screenshot_001_qhx1B2.jpg)
deadbeef - where is the support for aac (m4a)? if only wine can add drag&drop into apps...
I'm still checking out all these players, but for now, after testing RhythmBox, Aqualung, Quod Libet, Banshee and Audacious2, I still miss the tagging capabilities of foobar2000. This includes custom display strings and the mass tagger, for which I've written quite complex scripts that would fix all sorts of errors in tags automagically. Any thoughts on that?
In the end, I really hoped foobar would get a native Linux version. Over Wine there's always the ALSA stuttering problem. *sigh*
Really hoping the same shindou, i would love to have a foobar2000 linux version.I like this player because of its simplicity and yet big support for many filetypes, it's not like winamp/wmp with its skins and visualizations.
There's just nothing that compares to foobar on Linux. All player lack tagging and file operations. Most of them are either not customizable at all or only by disproportional means. And don't get me started on performance. It's a shame.
I doubt there is a player for Linux that I didn't try. It's too bad foobar is so awesome, if it'd suck, I'd never got used to this level of comfort.
There's just nothing that compares to foobar on Linux. All player lack tagging and file operations. Most of them are either not customizable at all or only by disproportional means. And don't get me started on performance. It's a shame.
I doubt there is a player for Linux that I didn't try. It's too bad foobar is so awesome, if it'd suck, I'd never got used to this level of comfort.
I also find it impossible to find a music player on Linux that compares to foobar2000. I use Wine to run foobar2000 under Linux since I cannot find player on Linux that plays AAC gaplessly, but sadly Pulseaudio has broken the audio on Wine on Ubuntu 9.10 and Fedora 12. Sadly over the past year am very quickly losing my interest in Linux, mainly due to that god awful peice of crap known as Pulseaudio being forced onto most major distros, by being intergrated with GNOME.
There is a one player what may be alternative foobar2000 in Linux. It's named DEADBEEF (http://deadbeef.sourceforge.net/), it's a young project so don't wait a full substance functionality of foobar, but I think this player have good future.
A screenshot:
(http://deadbeef.sourceforge.net/screenshot02.png)
From the screenshot, it clones fb2k's UI quite well, but because it's written in messy C, using shortsighted plugin architecture, non-reentrant decoders, etc., I cannot agree.
Yeah, I did look into DEADBEEF, well at least I tried. Since there are no built packages for Ubuntu. I had to compile it myself and my Linux-compiling noobishness made me fail. There were dependencies I could not resolve.
/mnt, I haven't had such bad experiences with pulseaudio up to now. I'd rather see it as a step in the right direction. Away from the chaos that audio is on Linux.
/mnt, I haven't had such bad experiences with pulseaudio up to now. I'd rather see it as a step in the right direction. Away from the chaos that audio is on Linux.
IMO Pulseaudio was adapted very early while dmix (ALSA's software mixer) got better. Hopefully next year Pulseaudio will finally be good enough for all users, but so far its still a huge regression issue.
2Anas
Here you will found a working deb packages http://sourceforge.net/projects/deadbeef/files/ (http://sourceforge.net/projects/deadbeef/files/)
I also find it impossible to find a music player on Linux that compares to foobar2000. I use Wine to run foobar2000 under Linux since I cannot find player on Linux that plays AAC gaplessly, but sadly Pulseaudio has broken the audio on Wine on Ubuntu 9.10 and Fedora 12. Sadly over the past year am very quickly losing my interest in Linux, mainly due to that god awful peice of crap known as Pulseaudio being forced onto most major distros, by being intergrated with GNOME.
I have audio with wine under ubuntu 9.10.
I have audio with wine under ubuntu 9.10.
Was it the 64bit version?
but sadly Pulseaudio has broken the audio on Wine on Ubuntu 9.10 and Fedora 12. Sadly over the past year am very quickly losing my interest in Linux, mainly due to that god awful peice of crap known as Pulseaudio being forced onto most major distros, by being intergrated with GNOME.
I have to echo your sentiments. I found PulseAudio to be nothing more than the spawn of Satan. The only way I can see myself using Linux again is if the audio situation improves. And the rate its going, its going nowhere fast. It would be nice if there is a stable API out there so that a FB2K alternative on Linux is completely feasible.
Having to do all sorts of things like kill out ALSA/PulseAudio to use something that is functional for gaming and has a nice API like OSSv4 is not my idea of fun. And its quite sad that a library like BASS, uses ALSA for its backend, since a FB2K like player based on its API would be very nice from a developer point of view (easy to maintain, loads of addons, nice developer support and *proper* documentation, etc).
I have audio with wine under ubuntu 9.10.
Was it the 64bit version?
Yes Ubuntu 9.10 64 bit. Although in the previus version I could change the volume per channel for my xonar D1 and it appeared at the preferences as xonar D1 but now I have to choose "CMI8788 [Oxyben HD Audio] Analog Stereo". And although I don't use it I don't see any options to use the digital output.
mzso, are you saying you're not getting audio stuttering in your fb2k+wine setup? If so, did you change any of the default settings in wine or foobar?
I tried every possible combination of audio interface setup and yet, every second I get a small pause in the audio stream. It can easily drive even a non-audio-conscious person crazy... Yet, if this did not happen, I'd gladly use foobar in Ubuntu.
Btw, I have an Audigy (1) eX soundcard.
As a parenthesis in this discussion, and hoping a developer will come across, the features I miss the most from foobar2000 are:
- Title formatting in Columns UI (each column has a custom script).
* So far, I've only found "true" custom display formatting support in the cmus command-line player.
* quod libet allows custom-named columns, but you can't define complex scripts for them.
- The masstagger, to quickly fix all the mistakes made by friends, P2P and even myself.
* Kid3 looks promising.
- Gapless playback. Anything without this nowadays... is not a decent music player.
- More specifically (and I do acknowledge it is rare and not simple to implement), support to LAME gapless information tags.
- ReplayGain playback support is a MUST! Applying ReplayGain is a nice bonus though. Fixing MP3 streams too.
- The Continuator plug-in. Who wants silence while working/studying?
- The VLevel plug-in. ReplayGain is cool but sometimes volume varies wildly in the same song, other times the song is just not well compressed/equalized.
- When not using VLevel, the Advanced Limiter plug-in. This prevents excessive noise from clipping (eg. from badly gained MP3s or after applying ReplayGain - I don't like using the peak volume setting).
I can "live" without all the other features (though not so happily).
mzso, are you saying you're not getting audio stuttering in your fb2k+wine setup? If so, did you change any of the default settings in wine or foobar?
I tried every possible combination of audio interface setup and yet, every second I get a small pause in the audio stream. It can easily drive even a non-audio-conscious person crazy... Yet, if this did not happen, I'd gladly use foobar in Ubuntu.
Btw, I have an Audigy (1) eX soundcard.
No. I didn't experience anything like that. Rarely the playback hanged, but that seems to happen when using a native player.
There's just nothing that compares to foobar on Linux. All player lack tagging and file operations. Most of them are either not customizable at all or only by disproportional means. And don't get me started on performance. It's a shame.
I doubt there is a player for Linux that I didn't try. It's too bad foobar is so awesome, if it'd suck, I'd never got used to this level of comfort.
I also find it impossible to find a music player on Linux that compares to foobar2000. I use Wine to run foobar2000 under Linux since I cannot find player on Linux that plays AAC gaplessly, but sadly Pulseaudio has broken the audio on Wine on Ubuntu 9.10 and Fedora 12. Sadly over the past year am very quickly losing my interest in Linux, mainly due to that god awful peice of crap known as Pulseaudio being forced onto most major distros, by being intergrated with GNOME.
There is no need to use pulseaudio. If you use Debian for example install xfce as desktop, then you have a nice small installation.
There's just nothing that compares to foobar on Linux. All player lack tagging and file operations. Most of them are either not customizable at all or only by disproportional means. And don't get me started on performance. It's a shame.
I doubt there is a player for Linux that I didn't try. It's too bad foobar is so awesome, if it'd suck, I'd never got used to this level of comfort.
I also find it impossible to find a music player on Linux that compares to foobar2000. I use Wine to run foobar2000 under Linux since I cannot find player on Linux that plays AAC gaplessly, but sadly Pulseaudio has broken the audio on Wine on Ubuntu 9.10 and Fedora 12. Sadly over the past year am very quickly losing my interest in Linux, mainly due to that god awful peice of crap known as Pulseaudio being forced onto most major distros, by being intergrated with GNOME.
There is no need to use pulseaudio. If you use Debian for example install xfce as desktop, then you have a nice small installation.
Yes Linux is frustrating for newcomers! But weren't all new things frustrating? Like windows Vista for example. How about your first try on a bicycle?
We all seem to forget an important thing here, everybody learned to use Windows for years. We cannot expect to use a different operating system without a learning curve or problems.
I agree that a Foobar clone is difficult to find on Linux, because it really is such a great program. However i believe that there are a lot of potential programs on Linux that could surpass Foobar in the future, mostly because Peter has such a stubborn attitude when it comes to open source. Too afraid that someone might alter/ruin his precious work. He can't maintain such a program on his own forever...
Back on topicRight now I am closely watching Music Player Daemon. It has al the right ingredients to develop into a nice player. I really like the server functionality of MPD (which Foobar doesn't have).
current devel snapshot of DeaDBeeF
added tabs and covers
screenshot
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I am going to favour Aqualung as the closest "foobar2000"-like player. It takes a hell of time to "learn" this player, but once you get it going, it does the job. It has a converter, it has LADSPA plugins which you can select multi-band equalizers... hey, these EQs are even superior to foobar2000's, there is the music store which sorta works like an album list. I use mostly with the "dark skin" which should be the default skin (the current default is quite ugly).
It has a few annoyances like adding music to the main playlist, it always presents a browsing method. Mass-adding albums, only through the music store. Some converter options are limited, but they're working on this to make it better.
It runs on Windows pretty fine and it's worth trying, specially if you plan to move to Linux.
I have tried every other player and every one of them had something I really disliked.
The second choice would be Songbird, which promises to be "the player" on both platforms. However, this one is more like iTunes.
Have you ever considered Exaile (http://www.exaile.org/)?
It's a GTK+ porting of amarok, written in python. It's a plugin based player with many features. It supports mass tagging via ex falso, tabbed playlists and automatic playlists. New plugins can be easily written in python (http://www.exaile.org/wiki/PluginDevelopment).
Here come some screenshots:
(http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/8595/screenshot005mz.png)
(http://www.exaile.org/screenshots/9p1Wp8j.png)
(http://www.exaile.org/screenshots/14/rating_large.png)
I've been trying for years ALL the linux audio players I've found. I love Foobar2000, the best audio player for windows, and right now I only use DeadBeef for Linux. Replaygain, cuesheets, gapless, ape, flac, wavpack, mp3, mp4, etc.
By the way, for Ubuntu users, the PPA for Ubuntu is: ppa:alexey-smirnov/deadbeef
I've tried it in Ubuntu 10.04 64 bits and it works great.
I'm still using a hybrid system to take care of my audio on Linux -- a few players are close, but not quite what I'm looking for.
What I need:
+ handle a big library without barfing
+ tag and file management, including writing tags from files, and creating files and directories from tags
+ ratings support, preferably for writing the ratings to the file (the only way my ratings are portable across platforms or devices)
+ Last.fm support would be nice
+ custom columns for sorting my library would be great too
Quod Libet has good support for my huge library, nice sound, the search function is quite powerful, supports a listening queue, and has great tagging features, but I hate the GUI and the support for song ratings, custom tags, and custom columns is not what I want. It's about two or three updates and/or plugins and a facelift of the interface away from being my player.
DeadBeef is fast, minimalist, has a slick, but simple interface, allows custom columns, and sounds great, but it's still in its infancy and is missing some stuff I want, mainly a better tagging / file management feature set (just use Ex Falso -- which is what Quod Libet uses) and song ratings support is zero from what I can tell. Still, the amount of thought that went into usability and functionality is great. I feel like everything is where it should be and does what it's supposed to.
I've toyed with the bigger players since they have lots of extensions and tended to evolve quickly, but Songbird is dead on Linux and Amarok 2.0 is just too slow for me to put up with.
Clementine is getting a serious look, but I'm withholding my verdict for now.
In the meantime, I can recommend, without reservations, Ex Falso (included in Quod Libet, if you want the player, too) and Kid3 for tag editing and file management. I've been extremely happy with them both.
Chris
PulseAudio is fine on Linux, at least in Fedora 13 since I've been using it there. Also, wine in F13 has been using a PulseAudio output driver for months now. Effortless sound mixing between multiple applications, effortless live switching between output devices in a system with multiple sound cards.
Although the last time I tried bsnes' PulseAudio drivers, they left the PA daemon in a bad state until it was restarted completely. Boo.
Yeah, the rare times I'm using Linux, I'm running foobar2000 with wine. Nothing else has the level of format support, which includes all the formats I support with my own components.
Regarding "foobar2000 with wine", would someone be able to rewrite/update the install guide to the current versions of things? I tried following the old instructions and got lost a few times (primarily because I have files with non-Roman characters in the tags/filenames, so I had to jump back and forth between a few links).
Are there any music players for Linux that are similar to Foobar2000?
Surely not as good, but able to play MP3 and FLAC files from cue sheets (.cue files): CuePlay on Sourceforge (http://cueplay.sf.net)
You can always give it a try.
(http://cueplay.sourceforge.net/CuePlay0.70.jpg)
Another alternative you might consider is.... running foobar2000. I run fb2k on win7 running in a VM on VirtualBox which is free. It works perfectly on my Linux system. I have also tried many native Linux alternatives and none of them are even remotely as good as fb2k so I have decided to stick with the real deal.
If you haven't yet tried a VM on your Linux box you should.