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Poll

Do you want a dark theme for foobar2000 ?

Yes
[ 17 ] (60.7%)
No
[ 11 ] (39.3%)

Total Members Voted: 28

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Re: Request: Dark theme -- yeah, I know, AGAIN.

Reply #25
Because the majority are always right. They think with what is best for everyone.


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Reply #27
Foobar2000 are the only ones getting it right then?
All of the other developers are adding dark themes. That's what I mean. Are all those other devs idiots?
Both choices are valid, why do you think that one is right and other is wrong?

Because one of them gives the user options and the other denys the user that option. Do you like options?

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Reply #28
Because the majority are always right. They think with what is best for everyone.

Majority isn't always right. As neither is the minority, by the way.
What those other devs are doing is giving their users an option they request. Developers put their beliefs apart and care for their users. As a result, their users can choose.

Being able to choose is always right.

Re: Request: Dark theme -- yeah, I know, AGAIN.

Reply #29
Do you like options?
I like useful options. I don't like useless option. Dark theme is useless for me.


What those other devs are doing is giving their users an option they request. Developers put their beliefs apart and care for their users. As a result, their users can choose.

Being able to choose is always right.

An old answer from Peter that may or may not be relevant today:
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To start with, foobar2000 was never meant to be usable for everyone.
We simply don't care whether specific userbase finds it useful or not. We would probably care if we earned money from it, but we don't, and don't plan to as it would ruin too many good aspects of the project.
[...]
Again, if you don't like our decisions, you are free (and encouraged) to use one of other players instead.

Re: Request: Dark theme -- yeah, I know, AGAIN.

Reply #30
Do you like options?
I like useful options. I don't like useless option.
Windows favorite phrase. hahahah we all know where it has lead many times  ::)

It's ironic because that way of thinking is the first reason Windows has not been coded to change the theme of all software it runs, even if it's easily able to do so as has been already noted. So it's really funny how the same argument can be used by one side and the opposite side at the same time.

EDIT: Also find it funny the poll is yes or no. I mean... you may want the dark theme or don't care at all about it, but it makes no sense to be "against implementing a dark theme". Makes no sense to be against an option. If we talk about coding it, then that's another story hahaha (obviously) But you can't be against it per se (?). So I don't get most comments of this thread.

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Reply #31
https://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/16b70775-d87e-42d3-aa8f-41d7d6888c66/how-to-get-colors-of-default-app-mode-quotdarkquot-in-my-win32-app

Looks like you have to program your app completely differently, and custom color the entire thing. Skinning probably also requires custom invocation of the UXTheme interface for every UI control. And every plugin will have to do the same for any UI code.

Re: Request: Dark theme -- yeah, I know, AGAIN.

Reply #32
EDIT: Also find it funny the poll is yes or no. I mean... you may want the dark theme or don't care at all about it, but it makes no sense to be "against implementing a dark theme". Makes no sense to be against an option. If we talk about coding it, then that's another story hahaha (obviously) But you can't be against it per se (?). So I don't get most comments of this thread.

I agree.
I worded the question like that because I've seen how many times people have asked for a dark theme and how some people on the forum(s) reacted. As I've said, some people gets defensive about a thing that wouldn't hurt them if it's implemented.
I wanted to remark that attitude with the "No" while giving an option to express you would like a dark theme with the "Yes".

I do understand why coders would prefer to dedicate their time to other areas they find more interesting or useful. It's their time and their choice. At the same time I have also seen how other requests with really minimal impact on most non-advanced users have been accepted and implemented.

So... I re-requested something that really have a big impact on non-advanced users: how the UI looks. As superfluous as it may appear to some, it has a lot of weight on how likeable AND useable a program is. Those who develop it may not care, I can't know that. I do care, so I ask for it.

It's not a trivial task, I am aware of it, but I believe/hope those who care for UI design may be interested in making foobar2000 UI "evolve".

Re: Request: Dark theme -- yeah, I know, AGAIN.

Reply #33
Windows is getting new upgrade too.
Maybe it would be better to wait MS to release the latest WinUI with the complete Windows11 UI component.
And hope that ui library would do most of the thing for us.

Re: Request: Dark theme -- yeah, I know, AGAIN.

Reply #34
This is ridiculous. Such a customizable interface but dark mode? nah. I think its time we call em out for lacking the skills to do so. Prove me wrong.

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Reply #35
Peter and the other developers devote a considerable amount of time and effort to provide us with these FREE gifts out of kindness and generosity.  They have every right to decide what they want to spend their time on.  Requesting new features is one thing.  But insulting them just because you don't get what you want is just plain rude.  They don't owe us anything, but we owe them everything.
 Please show these developers the respect and gratitude they deserve.

Re: Request: Dark theme -- yeah, I know, AGAIN.

Reply #36
When all other angles are exhausted one resorts to being rude. Apologies to the devs for confusing ability with refusal.

 
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