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Reply #2975
Is anyone else having a problem with album art being added to the synced files? I'm on Windows 7 64-bit w/ foobar2000 1.0.1 and foo_dop 0.6.7.7.. Almost all of my albums have proper album art showing in foobar2000 with the artwork viewer, but most of the artwork disappears on the ipod (160gb Classic). I noticed the source script only has "folder" in it, is there any way to specify multiple paths here?

I've already got "Additionally use foobar2000 built-in artwork reader" enabled..

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Reply #2976
Some time ago, I changed from an iPod Nano 4G to an iPod touch (Unsure of which generation, it came with 3.1.3, IIRC).  This didn't fix the album art problems I have, and some other ones have appeared.

From time to time, album art seems to jump around. Some albums have wrong art. For instance, "Taken From the Evil to Come" by upcdownc ended up having the album art of Carpe Omnium, one of Atlantis' albums. Now, all my albums have correct album art, which shows up as it should in Foobar's artwork viewer and Columns UI's NG Playlist. Also, I'm sure there are no hidden pictures. I don't know what to do, because I've also gone from my old library to a new one (Copied my music and added new album art, reinstalled Foobar).

Also, some sometimes some artists/albums won't appear. When I go to the music section and to Artists, I can usually find the artist in question, but the tracks won't appear. Instead, there's a message similar to "Sorry, add some music with iTunes". Rewriting the database or resyncing usually fixes it.

Uh, I guess this sounds a little unclear, but I'll supply pictures/screenshots if needed.

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Reply #2977
Whenever I connect my iPod to my PC I have the following issue:

The iPod doesn't send it's played songs data to foobar. Only when I use the option File > iPod > "rewrite database" will the played songs appear in the File > Preferences > Tools > Audioscrobbler. The songs are not automatically send to Last.FM. I have to submit the songs manually. When submitting the songs manually the connection often fails after submitting 10 or 20 songs.

Any ideas how to get the process automated? Plug in the iPod and everything automatically gets uploaded?



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Reply #2978
@Omitson: with regards to your automation query, this is taken from the foo_dop further usage notes/faq's:

"Statistics (plays and ratings) are synchronised back to foobar2000 when you run any command that modifies the iPod (to force use 'Rewrite database'). This only works for files originally sent using the component, and currently they cannot have moved from their location at the time they were added to the iPod."

as for submission to last.fm, all tracks in the cache should get submitted once you start scrobbling tracks from within foobar.

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Reply #2979
Super Request here 

could selecting a playlist and doing "send to ipod" have the same effect as doing "send playlist..."  ?
Agreed something like that makes sense, but I'm not aware of any common APIs to accomplish that, sadly.

Musicmusic, thanks for the clarification.  I'm curious whether this is a design choice or a component limitation for compatibility or other reasons?  The iPod itself does not limit an album to one cover, at least this is true on the Classic 6G with embedded art.  As I said earlier I can upload with Sharepod and each embedded cover is used even if the same album name.  Maybe it's something you can look at in future versions.  Thanks again for your hard work.
It is my implementation of sparse artwork. I could switch to doing comparisons on the artwork, but my main concern was the complications if part of the album is already on the device.

I've searched around and, to my surprise, found nothing on this one.

I have a first generation iPod Touch running OS 3.1.3. I just updated foo_dop to 0.6.7.7 this morning. Whenever I try to perform any operations in foobar (0.9.6.9), this message pops up: "Error: Could not lock device for syncing! Please wait and retry." But it's still working fine in iTunes and I can delete files fine from it just fine there.

Any ideas?
Reboot the iPod and you should be fine, I think. Maybe check the system log first (Shift + File/iPod/Syslog viewer). I think iTunes still goes ahead if it can't lock the device.

What exactly is it that the component uses to generate thumbnails for videos? I'm hesitant to install a bunch of bloated codec packs/splitters/directshow filters just to get that to work, but after having had the feature work before I formatted and upgraded my PC, I rather miss seeing the video thumbnails on my iPod. What, specifically, is required to get it to work again? (On Windows 7, in this case, if it makes a difference)
The combination mentioned in the wiki help page will work fine.

Is anyone else having a problem with album art being added to the synced files? I'm on Windows 7 64-bit w/ foobar2000 1.0.1 and foo_dop 0.6.7.7.. Almost all of my albums have proper album art showing in foobar2000 with the artwork viewer, but most of the artwork disappears on the ipod (160gb Classic). I noticed the source script only has "folder" in it, is there any way to specify multiple paths here?

I've already got "Additionally use foobar2000 built-in artwork reader" enabled..
Perhaps you would like to add how/where your artwork is stored?

Some time ago, I changed from an iPod Nano 4G to an iPod touch (Unsure of which generation, it came with 3.1.3, IIRC).  This didn't fix the album art problems I have, and some other ones have appeared.

From time to time, album art seems to jump around. Some albums have wrong art. For instance, "Taken From the Evil to Come" by upcdownc ended up having the album art of Carpe Omnium, one of Atlantis' albums. Now, all my albums have correct album art, which shows up as it should in Foobar's artwork viewer and Columns UI's NG Playlist. Also, I'm sure there are no hidden pictures. I don't know what to do, because I've also gone from my old library to a new one (Copied my music and added new album art, reinstalled Foobar).
I'm not aware of any issues, but if you are using folder.jpg try using something else e.g. cover.jpg, because folder.jpg is a reserved/system file name.

Also, some sometimes some artists/albums won't appear. When I go to the music section and to Artists, I can usually find the artist in question, but the tracks won't appear. Instead, there's a message similar to "Sorry, add some music with iTunes". Rewriting the database or resyncing usually fixes it.
It sounds like the sorting process which runs on the device is crashing, which I have seen before but not a reliably reproducible example. If you check the system log as above a crash might be logged there, or iTunes might offer to submit it if you sync with it. If it is happening regularly backup your iTunes_Control\iTunes folder and I'll have a look, it might be something like inconsistent sort fields etc.

Whenever I connect my iPod to my PC I have the following issue:

The iPod doesn't send it's played songs data to foobar. Only when I use the option File > iPod > "rewrite database" will the played songs appear in the File > Preferences > Tools > Audioscrobbler.
Currently all actions are invoked manually, so for now that's by design.

When submitting the songs manually the connection often fails after submitting 10 or 20 songs.
Not sure, this one is best asked in the foo_audioscrobbler thread.
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Reply #2980
Reboot the iPod and you should be fine, I think. Maybe check the system log first (Shift + File/iPod/Syslog viewer). I think iTunes still goes ahead if it can't lock the device.

You nailed it, musicmusic. I feel rather stupid for not even trying that. My sincere thanks. foodop forever!

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Reply #2981
Is anyone else having a problem with album art being added to the synced files? I'm on Windows 7 64-bit w/ foobar2000 1.0.1 and foo_dop 0.6.7.7.. Almost all of my albums have proper album art showing in foobar2000 with the artwork viewer, but most of the artwork disappears on the ipod (160gb Classic). I noticed the source script only has "folder" in it, is there any way to specify multiple paths here?

I've already got "Additionally use foobar2000 built-in artwork reader" enabled..
Perhaps you would like to add how/where your artwork is stored?



Wow, it's so good to see a dev being so involved with his userbase. 

My artwork's a little chaotic.. Some albums have artwork embedded, others have a folder.jpg or cover.jpg. I try not to use folder.jpg these days since WMP will eat it up every time I launch it but they end up being generated anyway which is irritating. I think my problem has to do with the fact that the folder/cover.jpg isn't always in the folder with the mp3 when the album is comprised of multiple CDs. In these cases my folder structure generally goes D:\Music\Artist\Album\CDnumber\ with the cover art in the Album folder.

Foobar handles it okay with the artwork viewer, but it looks at several paths..



Also, I'm not sure if this is an isolated incident, but I've noticed (I only got my ipod on Saturday) that my ipod will fail to connect properly if foobar's open. The ipod itself freezes and windows only detects a USB drive. But as soon as I either reset the ipod or close foobar, it finishes connecting and foobar occasionally gives me a pure virtual function call error...

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Reply #2982
Okay, so I'm trying to get my iPod to show the album artist tag in place of the normal artist one, but it does not seem to be changing. Anyone know what I can do? I changed the tag like you can see in the pic, and rewrote the databse, but it still stays the same. Artist that fall under Various Artist in my foobar still have independent names on my iPod. 

I have a 2g iPod Touch if that is useful.


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Reply #2983
My artwork's a little chaotic.. Some albums have artwork embedded, others have a folder.jpg or cover.jpg. I try not to use folder.jpg these days since WMP will eat it up every time I launch it but they end up being generated anyway which is irritating. I think my problem has to do with the fact that the folder/cover.jpg isn't always in the folder with the mp3 when the album is comprised of multiple CDs. In these cases my folder structure generally goes D:\Music\Artist\Album\CDnumber\ with the cover art in the Album folder.

Foobar handles it okay with the artwork viewer, but it looks at several paths..
Actually I'm not sure that those will do anything useful as you exclude the file extension in CUI..

Anyway set-up the sources at the Display preferences page as those will be used by iPod manager (provided the "Additionally use foobar2000 built-in artwork reader" option is ticked). Don't use folder.jpg, and remove it from the iPod manager/Core settings. Use 'Update artwork' if you want to update tracks already transferred (will work provided the source file hasn't moved).

Also, I'm not sure if this is an isolated incident, but I've noticed (I only got my ipod on Saturday) that my ipod will fail to connect properly if foobar's open. The ipod itself freezes and windows only detects a USB drive.
I have not had any reports of this before, what does the foobar2000 console say at this point? Actually it only starts doing stuff after receiving a notification of a new volume. Also can you check the Event Log at this point? Have you installed the latest firmware version and also do you have the iPod driver installed (from iTunes/Apple Mobile Device Support)?

foobar occasionally gives me a pure virtual function call error...
Is this when closing foobar2000? I suppose the background thread is getting stuck doing something, I'll make some changes which should avoid that, thanks.

Okay, so I'm trying to get my iPod to show the album artist tag in place of the normal artist one, but it does not seem to be changing. Anyone know what I can do? I changed the tag like you can see in the pic, and rewrote the databse, but it still stays the same. Artist that fall under Various Artist in my foobar still have independent names on my iPod. 
You'll need to use 'Update metadata' to update the songs already transferred.
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Reply #2984
^  okay. i saw that that was what i was suppose to do from the site, but from those directions i couldnt figure out how to actually update the metadata. I'm sure its something really simple im missing but could you explain a little further please

 

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Reply #2985
Musicmusic, thanks for the clarification.  I'm curious whether this is a design choice or a component limitation for compatibility or other reasons?  The iPod itself does not limit an album to one cover, at least this is true on the Classic 6G with embedded art.  As I said earlier I can upload with Sharepod and each embedded cover is used even if the same album name.  Maybe it's something you can look at in future versions.  Thanks again for your hard work.
It is my implementation of sparse artwork. I could switch to doing comparisons on the artwork, but my main concern was the complications if part of the album is already on the device.


musicmusic: As per your earlier recommendation I tried blank album names and using genre's to define my "70's Favorites", "80's Favorites", etc. compilations.  The component now uses one embedded cover for ALL tracks with a blank album name, regardless of genre field (presumably the first track synced).  Obviously the album field is the trigger, even if just blank.  Sorry but my simple minded logic doesn't understand why, if a track has an embedded cover, the component can't use that cover, regardless of all other factors.  That's what the iPod itself seems to do (using Sharepod anyway).  I'm sure there are far more coding complexities then I can even comprehend, particularly for users with mixed embedded art and .jpg's, but I'm wondering....why not a toggle for "use embedded art only"?  The component can then simply grab the embedded cover and ignore everything else.  For someone like me, and probably many others who have systematically and carefully embedded covers into every track, this would seem to be the perfect solution.  I can see where it might slow down the initial sync, but that's a one time event.  Thanks again!

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Reply #2986
OK, 0.6.7.3 released with a fix for the reported iTunes 9.1 issue.

Looks like a DirectShow-related error, most likely something installed a buggy DS filter recently?

M4V - I can only support formats that foobar2000 recognises and at least reads metadata for, and I don't believe that includes the M4V file extension?


Regarding the M4V issue, couldn't there be an option to totally ignore files with that extension? While I do not really like to use itunes, I can live with dragging and dropping video files onto my ipod. However, these files will be deleted once I synchronize my ipod using foo_dop. Kinda hackish but its better than having to retransfer the unsupported files after each sync i guess.

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Reply #2987
^  okay. i saw that that was what i was suppose to do from the site, but from those directions i couldnt figure out how to actually update the metadata. I'm sure its something really simple im missing but could you explain a little further please
They are fairly clear, I think.

musicmusic: As per your earlier recommendation I tried blank album names and using genre's to define my "70's Favorites", "80's Favorites", etc. compilations.  The component now uses one embedded cover for ALL tracks with a blank album name, regardless of genre field (presumably the first track synced).
I really have no idea what you've done, but I didn't mean leave the album fields blank, and I hope you changed the album artist fields as well.

Obviously the album field is the trigger, even if just blank.
Incorrect.

Sorry but my simple minded logic doesn't understand why, if a track has an embedded cover, the component can't use that cover, regardless of all other factors.
I think you're confusing things. If you didn't understand, the other factor is storage space. I'll see if I can factor in any SHA-1 digests of the artwork that may be stored. But not for the next version.

That's what the iPod itself seems to do (using Sharepod anyway).
SharePod is irrelevant.

Regarding the M4V issue, couldn't there be an option to totally ignore files with that extension?
Sure - I'll make it leave anything with that extension alone.
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Reply #2988
musicmusic, I appreciate your efforts trying to comprehend my artwork problem as it pertains to compilations.  You've been very patient.  Clearly, there is much I don't understand about the component and how it's utilizing certain tags to make cover art decisions, embedded or not.  I certainly appreciate the storage size constraints you are trying to accommodate, especially for flash memory devices.  I do find it curious that you say the album name is not the cover trigger since all my testing points to this fact.  But anyway....

Given the component's apparent design (one cover per album) the best solution for my needs is to assign different album names to each track in a specific compilation--probaby the original source album name.  Then, either using Genre or playlists (or both), set up 70's Favorites, 80's Favorites, etc. groups.  The result is separate cover art and I can access the Compilations through several means (Compilation Menu, playlists, or Genre).  The drawback is that I have dozens of album names in a given Compilation.

I do ask that you eventually consider a feature that would allow multiple covers per album, if only for large capacity devices.  It sounds like something that can be done.

Finally, I somewhat disagree with the irrelevance of Sharepod.  I find it a useful, streamlined tool to directly manage the iPod database without disconnecting the device, particularly as I've been conducting all my cover art testing. 

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Reply #2989
OK, 0.6.7.3 released with a fix for the reported iTunes 9.1 issue.

Looks like a DirectShow-related error, most likely something installed a buggy DS filter recently?

M4V - I can only support formats that foobar2000 recognises and at least reads metadata for, and I don't believe that includes the M4V file extension?


I am running Windows 7 Ultimate with no extra codecs, I have VLC installed and that's about it, do I need to install ffdshow?


Out of interest does the DivX Plus Codec Pack allow you to create video thumbs? I know CCCP does, and I'd prefer an all-in-one install

Thanks

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Reply #2990
0.6.7.8 released. Changelog:
-Added VoicerOver support for iPod shuffle 3G (currently forced on).
-Various bug fixes
-M4V files should no longer be removed during a sync
-Fixed an issue relating to the order of playlists when displayed in foobar2000

VoiceOver support notes: It will use the system text-to-speech settings. It will also only be active for playlists/files transferred with the new version.

Out of interest does the DivX Plus Codec Pack allow you to create video thumbs? I know CCCP does, and I'd prefer an all-in-one install
Doesn't seem to, no. I think I can do it using Media Foundation on Windows 7, I'll give it a go for maybe the next version.
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Reply #2991
Out of interest does the DivX Plus Codec Pack allow you to create video thumbs? I know CCCP does, and I'd prefer an all-in-one install
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Doesn't seem to, no. I think I can do it using Media Foundation on Windows 7, I'll give it a go for maybe the next version.


Awesome, thank you

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Reply #2992
Is anyone else having a problem where songs without album/artwork information appear in the iPhone's Cover Flow view?

I have multiple songs with complete album tags, where the artwork source is simply cover.jpg in the same folder. I also have many songs without any album tags, just %artist% and %title%. Everything seems fine when browsing from my iPhone, except when I switch to Cover Flow. My Cover Flow albums are in order by artist, but it seems to insert a non-album-related track in between every set of a single artist's albums.

For example, I have several albums by Jefferson Airplane. Each of these albums appear correctly in Cover Flow. However, after their listings, there is a listing for Jefferson *Starship* with the default artwork image and no album information. It only lists the Starship song that appears first alphabetically, although I have others on the device. None of my Starship songs have any album information and do not appear under the default "Albums" filter.

Is this intended behavior? A settings problem on my part? A possible glitch? Any help would be appreciated!

Windows 7 x64
foobar2000 v1.0.3
foo_dop 0.7.6.8
iPhone 3GS 3.0.1

Thanks!

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Reply #2993
I do see that, but I'm getting the same thing when using iTunes.

0.6.7.9 released for testing. Changes:
-Now uses Microsoft Media Foundation for video thumbnails on Windows 7 (on Vista it will attempt to use it, falling back to DirectShow)
-Changes to sparse artwork implementation
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Reply #2994
I do see that, but I'm getting the same thing when using iTunes.

0.6.7.9 released for testing. Changes:
-Now uses Microsoft Media Foundation for video thumbnails on Windows 7 (on Vista it will attempt to use it, falling back to DirectShow)
-Changes to sparse artwork implementation


So quick! Thank you for adding MMF support for Windows 7

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Reply #2995
I'm still having issues with ratings coming back into foobar2000.  I use playback statistics.  When I rate something on my ipod, then synchronize, the ratings are essentially lost.  Am I doing something wrong?

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Reply #2996
Hi guys, I'm about to buy an 160 GB 7th Generation and I would like to know if this addon work properlly with it.

Thanks

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Reply #2997
Hi guys, I'm about to buy an 160 GB 7th Generation and I would like to know if this addon work properlly with it.

It works fine with my 160 GB iPod that I bought from Amazon.de about 3 months, so - yes.
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Reply #2998
I recently bought a Ipod Touch 3g (3.1.3 fw) and decided to try this plugin out.
Everything works great except i can't choose to delete songs from the ipod.

I looked in the context menu and "remove from ipod" is checked but it doesn't show up in the menu when i right click. (the only option is Send to Ipod)

Very thankful for any help.

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Reply #2999
I looked in the context menu and "remove from ipod" is checked but it doesn't show up in the menu when i right click. (the only option is Send to Ipod)

You need to do "iPod > Load library" to load the iPod's contents into a playlist as that's where that command will show up. It won't show up for files on your PC...
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