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Reply #2275
There might be. I will investigate further as I also noticed that I can sync, not change anything, try to sync again and foo_dop detects changes (some files to be removed and some to be added). And that could be done forever (the same files are listed over and over again).
The component looks at three things:
1. File size
2. Last modified time
3. Certain metadata fields

1. will only break down if the file is modified
3. will break down if the file is modified or you transcode to some untaggable format (e.g. raw AAC) or the tag format causes some differences
2. will break down if there are modifications. But it also can be problematic as times are not stored in UTC in FAT, also resolutions can differ...

So, where are your source files stored, what OS are you using, and what iPod model?

BTW: is "Album Artist" respected? I recall I could have i.e. track1 by artist X, track 2 by artist Y set their Album Artist to Z and after sync both tracks would be listed under artist Z. It does not seem to work here (and it would be handly I do not want Compilation to be used in such case).
It's used in some places by the iPod but not everywhere. If you have issues you could remap it into the Artist field.
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Reply #2276
I remember reading somewhere in this thread that the ipod firmware had some limitations with the sound check. Something about the volume being too low. Does anyone have more data on this? Also, I remember noticing that the replay-gain conversion was broken and now it is fixed with 0.6.5.4, should I still be having issues with this? I have an 3rd Gen iPod Nano, should I have Sound Check enabled in the settings on the iPod or does the sound check data apply to the files that is sent and enabling sound check has adverse effects?

I am a bit confused to say the least and just trying to narrow down my problem, if I do have one, LOL.

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Reply #2277
I remember reading somewhere in this thread that the ipod firmware had some limitations with the sound check. Something about the volume being too low. Does anyone have more data on this?
Doesn't relate to the Nano 3G as far as I am aware. See FAQ for more information or go back a few pages here..

Also, I remember noticing that the replay-gain conversion was broken and now it is fixed with 0.6.5.4, should I still be having issues with this?
That was just the UI for the adjustment setting in preferences.

I have an 3rd Gen iPod Nano, should I have Sound Check enabled in the settings on the iPod or does the sound check data apply to the files that is sent and enabling sound check has adverse effects?
You need to enable the option.
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Reply #2278
So, where are your source files stored, what OS are you using, and what iPod model?

I keep my music files on remote server (linux one to be exact) which exports its shares over Samba (SMB) so I can have it mapped to
windows' disk.

BTW: is "Album Artist" respected? I recall I could have i.e. track1 by artist X, track 2 by artist Y set their Album Artist to Z and after sync both tracks would be listed under artist Z. It does not seem to work here (and it would be handly I do not want Compilation to be used in such case).
It's used in some places by the iPod but not everywhere. If you have issues you could remap it into the Artist field.

That's not the solution as (I believe) it would pollute my scrobbles?

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Reply #2279
So, where are your source files stored, what OS are you using, and what iPod model?

I keep my music files on remote server (linux one to be exact) which exports its shares over Samba (SMB) so I can have it mapped to
windows' disk.
Ah, I thought that could be the case. I will try and do some testing on this...

That's not the solution as (I believe) it would pollute my scrobbles?
The remapping is done in the iPod database only - doesn't have anything to do with last.fm scrobbling if you do it via foobar2000 (foo_audioscrobbler). I can't really change how the iPod works anyway...
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Reply #2280
I keep my music files on remote server (linux one to be exact) which exports its shares over Samba (SMB) so I can have it mapped to
windows' disk.
Ah, I thought that could be the case. I will try and do some testing on this...


Could it also be the culprit why foo_dop does not see I added some new files to the playlist to be synced? Playlist i sync holds 546 tracks. Syncing shows nothing to sync but imported "iPod View" (via Load Library) lists counts 525 tracks only.

PS: thanks for foo_dop and freeing me from shitty itunes.

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Reply #2281
I wouldn't have thought so. Does the playlist have any duplicates at all? Maybe you could compare and see which tracks are missing..
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Reply #2282
Hi,

I am trying to get the compilations function to work

$if($stricmp($meta(album artist),various artists),1,)


and discovered that my albums, compilations or otherwise, have a blank %album artist% tag. The mp3s where ripped in eac and the various artists option was ticked there for compilations during ripping

is there  a workaround to this please?


ipod manager 0.6.4.2
nano 4g 1.03

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Reply #2283
Set Album Artist to Various Artists for any various artist albums? If you have some other non-VA types of compilations as well, you will need to adjust the mapping depending on your needs.
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Reply #2284
Hi,

I prefer not to change the tags. However i have an idea:- my mp3's are named as:

non compilation:    Artist - Album - Tracknumber - Songtitle.mp3
compilation:          Album - Tracknumber - Artist - Songtitle.mp3

if
$if($stricmp($meta(album artist),various artists),1,)

could be changed to:

if first "part" of mp3 filename = %Album% tag then set as compilation.


Is this possible?

thank you

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Reply #2285
The contents of path fields there are undefined, therefore I wouldn't recommend it.

Fixing your tags is the best/correct solution.
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Reply #2286
Hello all,

It's 92 pages now, hard to search. I've read that foo_dop can't add album art if you are not administrator, and the iTunes use a service to add album art under non-admin users; I guess that you can't use iTunes's service, but is it possible to write system service which will enable foo_dop to copy album art on iPod? Currently using iPod Touch 2G, works very well with the plugin.
Thank you for witing the plugin, and keep up the good work, I appreciate it.
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Reply #2287
Only affects Windows XP/2003 and standard iPod models (not touch/iPhone). Therefore it's mostly irrelevant.
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Reply #2288
That's not the solution as (I believe) it would pollute my scrobbles?
The remapping is done in the iPod database only - doesn't have anything to do with last.fm scrobbling if you do it via foobar2000 (foo_audioscrobbler). I can't really change how the iPod works anyway...


Ok, so I tried the following rule:

Artist  $if($meta(album artist),$meta(album artist),$meta(artist))

my intention was to have sort of "compilations" under lead artist w/o need of setting Compilation bit. So I wanted  "Album artist" to be used as  "Artist" if present or keep "Artist" unchanged otherwise. While this rule nicely works for custom column display, it does not seem to remap anything. Any hints?

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Reply #2289
I am trying to get the compilations function to work
$if($stricmp($meta(album artist),various artists),1,)
and discovered that my albums, compilations or otherwise, have a blank %album artist% tag. The mp3s where ripped in eac and the various artists option was ticked there for compilations during ripping
is there  a workaround to this please?


What do recently here is this:

$if($stricmp($meta(IPOD_COMPILATION),1),1,)

this requires me to manually tag all the compilations with IPOD_COMPILATION = 1, but a) this makes my files tagged the way iTunes does, b) I can have compilation without the need to set album artist to "various artists" which i sometimes dislike (i.e. dj mixes keep DJ name in album artists here).


@musicmusic: could we have more fields to define mapping rules? I.e. I'd like to have compilation bit set based on many conditions and while I'd write complex $if() stataments, it would help to be able to define any number of mappings for certain fields.


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Reply #2291
Ok, so I tried the following rule:

Artist  $if($meta(album artist),$meta(album artist),$meta(artist))

my intention was to have sort of "compilations" under lead artist w/o need of setting Compilation bit. So I wanted  "Album artist" to be used as  "Artist" if present or keep "Artist" unchanged otherwise. While this rule nicely works for custom column display, it does not seem to remap anything. Any hints?
I think you would do better just putting %album artist% for the artist mapping and maybe [%track artist% - ]%title% for the title mapping.

See http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?ti...erence#Metadata

To update the existing files on your iPod, you would have to run Load library, then select them all and run 'Update metadata'.

What do recently here is this:

$if($stricmp($meta(IPOD_COMPILATION),1),1,)

this requires me to manually tag all the compilations with IPOD_COMPILATION = 1, but a) this makes my files tagged the way iTunes does, b) I can have compilation without the need to set album artist to "various artists" which i sometimes dislike (i.e. dj mixes keep DJ name in album artists here).
Not sure why you can't just use $if($meta_test(IPOD_COMPILATION),1,) - unless you have some blank fields or 0 values. You could just leave it blank though because that field is actually what you are remapping.

@musicmusic: could we have more fields to define mapping rules? I.e. I'd like to have compilation bit set based on many conditions and while I'd write complex $if() stataments, it would help to be able to define any number of mappings for certain fields.
But what are these many conditions? I don't think having multiple remappings for one field is the solution.
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Reply #2292
@musicmusic: could we have more fields to define mapping rules? I.e. I'd like to have compilation bit set based on many conditions and while I'd write complex $if() stataments, it would help to be able to define any number of mappings for certain fields.
But what are these many conditions? I don't think having multiple remappings for one field is the solution.

Id like to have compilation set to 1 if either IPOD_COMPILATION is set to 1 or album artist is "Various Artists" or album artist is "VA". I can write if/else, but having multiple mappings would help a bit. Not critical though.

BTW:

couple of feature requests:

- please move "Synchronise..." to the top of menu - it's most often used item (any keyboard shortcut possible?
- please make "Errors occured updating your ipod" windows sizeable (no reason to keep it fixed size)
- i just faced some "failed to add gapless data for file: error parsing file. file may be corrupt" errors. The problem is that column "File" lists ipod files and I am barely able to guess what the "J:\iPod_control\music\F85\2.02-Ag.mp3" really is without digging there. Would if be possible to display also full path of the file it's related to on the desktop?
- context menu with "Copy" for at least file path (in the above error window) would help
- IMHO: if there's no file to add/remove preview window shall not open (or at least "Continue" shall be disabled)
- could the sync progress window show ETA?

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Reply #2293
I have an issue to report. Apparently OS 3.0 on my iPod Touch 1G isn't very good with recognizing compilations. When I upload albums with Various Artists to the device they are displayed correctly in the vertical mode. However, when switched to landscape mode, each artist from the album is displayed separately. This results in having 10-15 same album covers for each artist on the album.
To correct this I'll need to start up iTunes and check all these tracks as "part of a compilation".
Can this be implemented in foo_dop?
Also, I must note that this problem didn't occur in earlier firmwares. Previously albums like these, when turned to landscape mode, would simply have the first artist on the album displayed, instead of "Various Artists".

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Reply #2294
- please move "Synchronise..." to the top of menu - it's most often used item (any keyboard shortcut possible?
- please make "Errors occured updating your ipod" windows sizeable (no reason to keep it fixed size)
- i just faced some "failed to add gapless data for file: error parsing file. file may be corrupt" errors. The problem is that column "File" lists ipod files and I am barely able to guess what the "J:\iPod_control\music\F85\2.02-Ag.mp3" really is without digging there. Would if be possible to display also full path of the file it's related to on the desktop?
- context menu with "Copy" for at least file path (in the above error window) would help
- IMHO: if there's no file to add/remove preview window shall not open (or at least "Continue" shall be disabled)
- could the sync progress window show ETA?
1. I think 2nd and 3rd sections should probably be swapped. You can assign it to a keyboard shortcut yourself, alternatively you could consider adding it to a buttons toolbar.
2. Yes I will change that
3. It could do so for most cases, yes I will make some changes here
5. The playlists may also be changed and those changes aren't listed. Changes to playlists aren't tracked; they are simply recreated. That would be the difference between Continue and Stop in that case.
6. It could but I would probably spend far too much time trying to make it accurate  There can be a lot of processes involved, so I will leave it as is for now..

I have an issue to report. Apparently OS 3.0 on my iPod Touch 1G isn't very good with recognizing compilations. When I upload albums with Various Artists to the device they are displayed correctly in the vertical mode. However, when switched to landscape mode, each artist from the album is displayed separately. This results in having 10-15 same album covers for each artist on the album.
To correct this I'll need to start up iTunes and check all these tracks as "part of a compilation".
Can this be implemented in foo_dop?
Also, I must note that this problem didn't occur in earlier firmwares. Previously albums like these, when turned to landscape mode, would simply have the first artist on the album displayed, instead of "Various Artists".
Hi Dereks,
If "part of a compilation" isn't check in iTunes, it might be that the files aren't being flagged as compilations. Could you add the compilation mapping from preferences into a column just to check the correct tracks do get a '1'?

Otherwise, could you make a backup of the iTunes_Control\iTunes folder before and after fixing an album (wait a bit after closing iTunes to allow it to finish writing)? Also, do the tracks you edit in iTunes stick (i.e. continue to show correctly after using foo_dop)?
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Reply #2295
If I play track X (on iPod) many times and the try to scrobble it is scrobbled as I've played it once instead of real number of plays. Whos fault is this? foo_dop or audioscrobbler plugin? last.fm tool scrobbles it correctly

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Reply #2296
Hi Dereks,
If "part of a compilation" isn't check in iTunes, it might be that the files aren't being flagged as compilations. Could you add the compilation mapping from preferences into a column just to check the correct tracks do get a '1'?

Otherwise, could you make a backup of the iTunes_Control\iTunes folder before and after fixing an album (wait a bit after closing iTunes to allow it to finish writing)? Also, do the tracks you edit in iTunes stick (i.e. continue to show correctly after using foo_dop)?


What I currently have in compilation column looks like that:

[blockquote]$if($stricmp($meta(album artist),various artists),1,)[/blockquote]

After setting "part of compilation" to 1 in iTunes nothing wrong happens, except artwork is being lost. However, all tracks continue to display correctly in foobar and lost artwork is easily recovered through "update artwork" option.

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Reply #2297
If I play track X (on iPod) many times and the try to scrobble it is scrobbled as I've played it once instead of real number of plays. Whos fault is this? foo_dop or audioscrobbler plugin? last.fm tool scrobbles it correctly
See http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index....st&p=642617

What I currently have in compilation column looks like that:

[blockquote]$if($stricmp($meta(album artist),various artists),1,)[/blockquote]
Can you add it to a column in your playlist view temporarily (or whatever method you prefer) just to check the relevant tracks do get a 1? Thanks
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Reply #2298
Can you add it to a column in your playlist view temporarily (or whatever method you prefer) just to check the relevant tracks do get a 1? Thanks


Well, I did that. Compilation column remains just empty (i put the line into "display" tab, if this matters).

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Reply #2299
Do the relevant tracks have ALBUM ARTIST set to Various Artists in their properties in foobar2000 then?

The mapping script needs to output 1 for any compilation tracks, otherwise they won't get flagged up as compilations in the iPod/iPhone database.
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