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Reply #575 –
Hey musicmusic-- I'm wondering if it's possible to make data from foo_cwb_hooks available to this component?  I'd like to use the system year and month in the genre mapping field, to have browsable added-by months.  Thanks.

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Reply #576 –
There's some technical/design reasons they aren't available, but anyway the mappings are also used at times other than sending files to the iPod.

The date added is stored in the iPod database, and you can create some smart playlists (using iTunes) around it if you wish.
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Reply #577 –
is it possible to further improve an ipod shuffle's support? There are some disturbing song order issues (the song order appears to be strictly linked to order you send them to ipod's memory)....

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Reply #578 –
Hi, I may revisit it in the future, but not at the moment. Please see release notes for list of known shuffle issues.

I'm working on a smart playlist editor for next version. Its unfortunately complex business however..
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Reply #579 –
0.4.6 TEST released. Its the first version to parse smart playlists and support editing them so it is marked experimental (so making a backup of iTunesDB is a good idea as usual). See changelog and notes page for details.

To create or edit a smart playlist run the "File/iPod/Browse iPod" command. Then just right click in the playlist list. Finally click "Close and save" to save changes.
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Reply #580 –
Quote from: musicmusic on
0.4.6 TEST released. Its the first version to parse smart playlists and support editing them so it is marked experimental (so making a backup of iTunesDB is a good idea as usual). See changelog and notes page for details.

To create or edit a smart playlist run the "File/iPod/Browse iPod" command. Then just right click in the playlist list. Finally click "Close and save" to save changes.

This update works on an early iPod Photo 60GB.
Fantastic stuff.
One bug  - from Foobar File | iPod | Load library and playlists returns the smart playlists as empty in Foobar although they are populated correctly on the iPod.
 

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Reply #581 –
Quote from: copperblue on
One bug  - from Foobar File | iPod | Load library and playlists returns the smart playlists as empty in Foobar although they are populated correctly on the iPod.

Hi,
yes this is just related to live updating. foo_dop doesn't update/populate the playlists (there's a message if you try and disable live updating) so they will stay like that when viewed in foo_dop. It would be some task to populate the playlists on my side (i.e. actually apply the rules to the iPod library), and it doesn't seem worthwhile if the iPod's gonna do it for me...  I do wonder if older models support live updating though.
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Reply #582 –
Quote from: musicmusic on
Quote from: copperblue on
One bug  - from Foobar File | iPod | Load library and playlists returns the smart playlists as empty in Foobar although they are populated correctly on the iPod.

Hi,
yes this is just related to live updating. foo_dop doesn't update/populate the playlists (there's a message if you try and disable live updating) so they will stay like that when viewed in foo_dop. It would be some task to populate the playlists on my side (i.e. actually apply the rules to the iPod library), and it doesn't seem worthwhile if the iPod's gonna do it for me...  I do wonder if older models support live updating though.

No worries 

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Reply #583 –
Hi, foo_dop seems not able to recognize ipod when ipod is in emergency disk mode. I don't know if ipods use a different identification id when in emergency disk mode and normal mode, but if there is too much work to recognize ipod when in emergency disk mode, a simple find folder dialog to tell foo_dop the path of the supposed ipod drive letter will be nice.

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Reply #584 –
Hi everybody!  As almost everybody here I hate iTunes and love Foobar.  To avoid iTunes, I'm using rockbox in my ipod video 80 gb and It is great!  I always have my portable foobar and my library with me on mi iPod when i'm on a desktop, and Rockbox when i'm away (exactly the same database, names, dirs, etc... no problems at all). 

But a couple of days ago, I did something wrong and damage the rockbox files.  As I was at home, I just reinstall it, and everything worked ok again.  But I was wonder... If i'm on the way, and this happend again, I will not be able to acces my music from the original firmware... 

As I read, this pluging can generate am iTunes database with my music in my own order... is that true? or will I have duplicates entries (one with the real name and other with the DFAS names)?  Can that database be read by the original iPod firmware?

By the way, some of my songs have more than 57 chars in the path...  is this still a problem as I read in the wiki?

THanks for your help and I hope this is what I was looking for!

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Reply #585 –
Quote from: thzxcyl on
Hi, foo_dop seems not able to recognize ipod when ipod is in emergency disk mode. I don't know if ipods use a different identification id when in emergency disk mode and normal mode, but if there is too much work to recognize ipod when in emergency disk mode, a simple find folder dialog to tell foo_dop the path of the supposed ipod drive letter will be nice.
Hi, my 5.5G is recognised over USB in disk mode. Are you over USB or firewire?

I think you can appreciate disk mode isn't exactly for transferring songs to your iPod. However I may be able to add support for it, I just need to know how your iPod identifies itself. Can you tell me the model & connection type first?

Quote from: Adi Corrales on
Hi everybody!  As almost everybody here I hate iTunes and love Foobar.  To avoid iTunes, I'm using rockbox in my ipod video 80 gb and It is great!  I always have my portable foobar and my library with me on mi iPod when i'm on a desktop, and Rockbox when i'm away (exactly the same database, names, dirs, etc... no problems at all). 

But a couple of days ago, I did something wrong and damage the rockbox files.  As I was at home, I just reinstall it, and everything worked ok again.  But I was wonder... If i'm on the way, and this happend again, I will not be able to acces my music from the original firmware... 

As I read, this pluging can generate am iTunes database with my music in my own order... is that true? or will I have duplicates entries (one with the real name and other with the DFAS names)?  Can that database be read by the original iPod firmware?

By the way, some of my songs have more than 57 chars in the path...  is this still a problem as I read in the wiki?

THanks for your help and I hope this is what I was looking for!
Hi,
Some iPod firmwares will refuse to play files unless they are in a certain folder, and some also have a limit on the path length as you have described. foo_dop enforces the path length limit.

You can add files on the iPod to the iPod database by simply using the send files to iPod command.
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Reply #586 –
Hi musicmusic.  Just dropping by to say thanks for adding support for smart playlists, and that everything is working well with my 5.5 model. 


By the way, field remapping enabled something I've wanted on my iPod for quite a long time: shuffle artists.  I  couldn't be more pleased with that.

Best,
M.

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Reply #587 –
Quote from: musicmusic on
Quote from: thzxcyl on

Hi, foo_dop seems not able to recognize ipod when ipod is in emergency disk mode. I don't know if ipods use a different identification id when in emergency disk mode and normal mode, but if there is too much work to recognize ipod when in emergency disk mode, a simple find folder dialog to tell foo_dop the path of the supposed ipod drive letter will be nice.
Hi, my 5.5G is recognised over USB in disk mode. Are you over USB or firewire?

I think you can appreciate disk mode isn't exactly for transferring songs to your iPod. However I may be able to add support for it, I just need to know how your iPod identifies itself. Can you tell me the model & connection type first?


I have a 5th gen, 60 GB ipod and am connecting with USB. I'm mainly using rockbox (but still keeping the original firmware), and rockbox shove ipod into emergency disk mode when connected. Since the emergency disk mode is Apple's software, I hope rockbox is not causing the problem.

Thanks

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Reply #588 –
Quote from: thzxcyl on
I have a 5th gen, 60 GB ipod and am connecting with USB. I'm mainly using rockbox (but still keeping the original firmware), and rockbox shove ipod into emergency disk mode when connected. Since the emergency disk mode is Apple's software, I hope rockbox is not causing the problem.

Thanks
There's two things you can do:
-Try putting it into disk mode manually: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=93651
-Get me the VID/PID when its in disk mode (and not working). To do this fire up Device manager, change the view to "device by connection", navigate to your ipod (it will be under something like ACPI PC/ACPI system/PCI Bus/USB controller. Parent to your iPod will be "USB Mass Storage Device". Double click that and go over to the details page. Paste the "Device Instance Path" property here (I think it's called "Device Instance Id" on XP).
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Reply #589 –
The device instance ID is
USB\VID_05AC&PID_1209\000A270014E35DBO

not quite sure if the last character is O or 0

Thanks

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Reply #590 –
Yes that's completely normal. Can't really see any good reason it shouldn't be detected with that info (especially if the layout was like I described - i.e. USB Mass Storage Device / Apple iPod USB Device).

So it is working when not in disk mode (i.e. from Apple firmware)?

Also bear in mind foo_dop watches for iPod connections/disconnections in the background. It won't find an iPod until it gets the notification from Windows that the iPod's volume has been mounted, sometimes there can be several seconds delay from when you physically connect the iPod. You can force foo_dop to rescan drives by restarting foobar2000. If that works I may have some ideas as to what's going wrong.
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Reply #591 –
After re-starting foobar, foo_dop successfully recognizes the ipod. In fact, it now works as expected even after I mount/dismount ipod again. Weird... I'm positive that before foo_dop does not recognize my ipod even long after I mounted it; don't know if the problem has to do with me leaving foobar (and my computer) on for a long, long time. Also, Windows itself takes a long time to recognize my ipod in emergency disk mode (takes about a minute or so, while with other usb devices, including ipod in the normal Apple firmware, it usually takes only seconds), so that may be part of the problem.

Thanks

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Reply #592 –
Hi, maybe, I don't know. Maybe it was never fully recognised (i.e. volume mounted) by Windows? I think its not so important though now anyway.

My iPod is recognised at normal speed in disk mode so I don't know why yours takes so long (lots of factors - could be iPod/USB controller/OS..). You could check in Event viewer if there's any messages in there about it.
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Reply #593 –
It is not working again... My ipod drive is shown in My Computer, but foo_dop reports that ipod is not found. I looked the event log, but there is nothing useful or informative. This is totally weird... At least I can always restart foobar and make it work.

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Reply #594 –
OK well then well there are three possible things happening:

-I'm not getting the notification of the new volume
-There is a timing problem (I'm getting the notification before the new volume is available for use)
-The flags in the notification aren't the ones I'm expecting.

So I made a special version for you which I'm about to send you a link to. With this it will log the device arrival and removal notifications in the foobar2000 console (View/Console).

So do this with it:
-Start foobar2000 and open the console.
-Connect your iPod.
-Wait until its visible in My Computer and some seconds longer
-Check if its working in foo_dop. If not paste the Console messages here. Also tell me the drive letter your iPod was mounted at.
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Reply #595 –
There is nothing in the console when it does not work (i.e. ipod shows up at My Computer but not at foo_dop). But when it works, after I restarted foobar, the console says

Startup time : 0:02.844061
Drive is not expected type or GetVolumeNameForVolumeMountPoint failed. Drive: C
Drive is not expected type or GetVolumeNameForVolumeMountPoint failed. Drive: D
Drive is not expected type or GetVolumeNameForVolumeMountPoint failed. Drive: E
Drive is not expected type or GetVolumeNameForVolumeMountPoint failed. Drive: F
New iPod detected. Drive: P Device Instance ID: USB\VID_05AC&PID_1209\000A270014E35DB0
DBT_DEVICEREMOVECOMPLETE: type: 2
volume details: mask: 00008000 flags: 0

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Reply #596 –
Ok.

So if there's no DBT_DEVICEARRIVAL message when it doesn't work it means I'm not getting the notification at all. I can't fix that but I would suggest it's maybe related to the slowness you are experiencing.
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Reply #597 –
My original thought is to have the user enter the drive manually, but restarting foobar to make it work is not a bad option.

Thanks

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Reply #598 –
hey music music > got an ipod shuffle today > installed itunes > setup the shuffle uninstalled itunes and now use foo_dop without any issues what so ever. what a great easy to use component > thanks for your hard work

running 0.4.6 TEST with ipod shuffle > used itunes 7.3.1 with latets firmware