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General - (fb2k) / Re: Reading codec info in some video files
Last post by wcs13 -
OK, I think I can do this.
I have managed to create 2 huge playlists sorted identically : real video files (3505 items), and !.tags files (3505 items).
I have sorted them identically, then I have checked them both thoroughly. They seem identically sorted, so I am ready to work with them.

There's just this part that of your post that I don't understand : "use foo_texttools to copy text with command"
In foo_texttools dropdown menu I have "Copy Title" / "Copy Artist Name" / "Copy File Name" / "Copy File Size" / "Customize" and "Advanced".
So what should I do ? Thanks.
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MP3 / Re: best mp3 encoder with something better than a command line interface?
Last post by BrilliantBob -
Two problems here:
1)  You are comparing a 128k mp3 to a 320k mp3.  Most people will assume that the higher bitrate file will be at least as good as the lower bitrate file, so this is not a good comparison.
2)  In spite of the comparison presumably favoring the higher bitrate file, you failed to show that it is better.
So we have a comparison that is not useful and then a failure to get a result.   Why even post those results?
Oops, I will test again by re-encoding the default.mp3 with the "--preset insane" included to see if the <bass boost> is still there.

So, <lame --preset insane original.wav DefaultEnc.mp3>
against
<lame.exe -ms --ns-bass -8 --ns-alto -8 --ns-treble -8 --ns-sfb21 -16 --interch 0.0002 --verbose -V0 -b256 -B320 -F --lowpass -1 --highpass 0.001 original.wav MyEnc.mp3>
is it OK?
What other tests to make?
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Support - (fb2k) / Possibly a foobar display bug with Windows 10 1809?
Last post by im_special -
So I feel kinda silly, I'm not sure if this is a bug or what, all I know was this wasn't the case before and since upgrading to 1809 from 1803 recently, that was when I noticed it, so I'm guessing something with Windows 10 1809 is to blame, anyways... the problem.

For some odd reason I have these boxes in my foobar when they used to be solid thick lines as separators (similar to the above ones) and for my "Rating" they used to be shown as stars. It's like Windows 10 now doesn't recognize these special characters or something, any ideas? All I can say was the only thing that has changed with my foobar setup was the Windows 10 update, nothing about foobar has been touched so I can't think of anything else that would cause this, all components are up to date and currently running latest stable of foobar2000 v1.4.0.




Again I feel like it's not a foobar problem, but I also have no idea what I would change in foobar to make things look correct again, this is a very ancient skin from like 5 years ago. But here's hoping one of you gurus might know of something.

EDIT: Not my pictures, but I was able to google up some images of what it's suppose to look like...
https://i.imgur.com/CrTH2cT.png
https://i.imgur.com/e2k6May.jpg
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MP3 / Re: best mp3 encoder with something better than a command line interface?
Last post by saratoga -
MyEnc.mp3 is almost identical with the original.wav and is clearly different than DefaultEnc.mp3, as you see in the ABX tests.

Two problems here:

1)  You are comparing a 128k mp3 to a 320k mp3.  Most people will assume that the higher bitrate file will be at least as good as the lower bitrate file, so this is not a good comparison.

2)  In spite of the comparison presumably favoring the higher bitrate file, you failed to show that it is better.

So we have a comparison that is not useful and then a failure to get a result.   Why even post those results?
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MP3 / Re: best mp3 encoder with something better than a command line interface?
Last post by BrilliantBob -
It's not forbidden to ask questions. People are just pointing out to you that it is extremely unlikely that you found some secret 'magic' settings for lame that are better than the default settings.
You haven't the faintest clue how this forum started.
Certain extended LAME settings outsmart the default settings and preserves the original quality.

The original.wav sample was extracted from the "Alan Parsons Project - I Robot (1977) - 10 - Genesis Ch.1. V.32.wav" as you can hear in any original CD.

original.wav  = the sample extracted from the original CD file
MyEnc.mp3      = the sample encoded with my extended settings of LAME.
DefaultEnc.mp3 = the sample encoded with the default LAME settings.
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1. The default settings
================================
lame original.wav DefaultEnc.mp3
================================
2. My settings
=======================================================================================================================================================================
lame.exe -ms --ns-bass -8 --ns-alto -8 --ns-treble -8 --ns-sfb21 -16 --interch 0.0002 --verbose -V0 -b256 -B320 -F --lowpass -1 --highpass 0.001 original.wav MyEnc.mp3
=======================================================================================================================================================================
C:\>lame original.wav DefaultEnc.mp3
LAME 3.100 64bits (http://lame.sf.net)
Using polyphase lowpass filter, transition band: 16538 Hz - 17071 Hz
Encoding original.wav to DefaultEnc.mp3
Encoding as 44.1 kHz j-stereo MPEG-1 Layer III (11x) 128 kbps qval=3
    Frame          |  CPU time/estim | REAL time/estim | play/CPU |    ETA
  1169/1169  (100%)|    0:02/    0:02|    0:02/    0:02|   10.469x|    0:00
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
   kbps        LR    MS  %     long switch short %
  128.0        1.0  99.0        96.6   1.8   1.6
Writing LAME Tag...done
ReplayGain: -8.0dB
............................................................................................
C:\>lame.exe -ms --ns-bass -8 --ns-alto -8 --ns-treble -8 --ns-sfb21 -16 --interch 0.0002 --
verbose -V0 -b256 -B320 -F --lowpass -1 --highpass 0.001 original.wav MyEnc.mp3
Warning: highpass filter disabled.  highpass frequency too small
LAME 3.100 64bits (http://lame.sf.net)
polyphase lowpass filter disabled
Encoding original.wav to MyEnc.mp3
Encoding as 44.1 kHz stereo MPEG-1 Layer III VBR(q=0)

misc:

        scaling: 1
        ch0 (left) scaling: 1
        ch1 (right) scaling: 1
        huffman search: best (outside loop)
        experimental Y=0
        ...

stream format:

        MPEG-1 Layer 3
        2 channel - stereo
        padding: all
        variable bitrate - VBR mtrh (default)
        using LAME Tag
        ...

psychoacoustic:

        using short blocks: channel coupled
        subblock gain: 1
        adjust masking: -6.8 dB
        adjust masking short: -6.8 dB
        quantization comparison: 9
         ^ comparison short blocks: 9
        noise shaping: 1
         ^ amplification: 2
         ^ stopping: 1
        ATH: using
         ^ type: 5
         ^ shape: 1 (only for type 4)
         ^ level adjustement: -7.1 dB
         ^ adjust type: 3
         ^ adjust sensitivity power: 1.000000
        experimental psy tunings by Naoki Shibata
           adjust masking bass=-8.5 dB, alto=-8.25 dB, treble=-8.025 dB, sfb21=-15.5 dB
        using temporal masking effect: no
        interchannel masking ratio: 0.0002
        ...

    Frame          |  CPU time/estim | REAL time/estim | play/CPU |    ETA
  1169/1169  (100%)|    0:03/    0:03|    0:03/    0:03|   7.6477x|    0:00
256 [   0]
320 [1169] %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
   kbps        LR  %     long switch short %
  320.0      100.0        95.5   2.3   2.2
Writing LAME Tag...done
ReplayGain: -8.5dB

C:\>

The Results:

MyEnc.mp3 is almost identical with the original.wav and is clearly different than DefaultEnc.mp3, as you see in the ABX tests.

The BASS area in the DefaultEnc.mp3 is boosted (sounds more loud) probably due to the [ATH type 4] and/or the psychoacoustic default settings.

MyEnc.mp3 was encoded with my experimental LAME settings (including the dev settings ON), with [ATH type 5] and the psychoacoustic settings lowered to minimum. And sounds almost identical with the original.wav (no BASS boost). According with the LAME developers from 2001, the ATH type 5 is based on collected data. The other LAME ATH curves are simply based on experimental data. https://sourceforge.net/p/lame/mailman/message/4770856/

The HF 16,000 Hz-20,000 Hz area wiped out by the LAME default settings is irrelevant for people who can't hear anything in this range. Maybe the youngers may feel any differences. Not my case.

It's up to you to judge if my LAME settings are snakeoil or not. Feel free to comment.
         

    
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3rd Party Plugins - (fb2k) / Re: De-emphasis components
Last post by MJmusicguy -
what it means is post processing rarely works unless marked loading as a dsp is mush simpler especially when the preset is used but be sure only use it on content you know needs it because it will per mentally alter the file
dont worry about anything just follow my  instructions
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