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Question: Is it
Option 1: Cool votes: 3
Option 2: Not cool votes: 6
Option 3: Not even warm votes: 3
Title: By screenshot, is this a cool jukebox program, or not a cool jukebox program
Post by: 40th.com on 2016-11-24 08:33:50


more at https://40th.com/sneakpeek/ (https://40th.com/sneakpeek/)

Title: Re: By screenshot, is this a cool jukebox program, or not a cool jukebox program
Post by: itisljar on 2016-11-24 09:11:42
This reminds me of those audio players from Windows 3.11 era.
Is there any particular reason why should we care?
Title: Re: By screenshot, is this a cool jukebox program, or not a cool jukebox program
Post by: dhromed on 2016-11-24 09:12:34
I think as human beings we all want happy feelings most of the time, and yet every so often we experience something that really puts a dent in the hope for better days. We can't always control what goes on in our lives—though we might be able to control more than we think—and precious few of us have, as the serenity prayer goes, "the wisdom to know the difference". All we can do is pick up the pieces when something goes wrong, and learn its lessons.

But despite that, you still posted this.
Title: Re: By screenshot, is this a cool jukebox program, or not a cool jukebox program
Post by: bennetng on 2016-11-24 10:38:05
Not bad, but the visualization and transport are too large while the playlist/lyrics fonts are too small, hope the UI can be customized.

But I will continue to use foobar anyway ;D
Title: Re: By screenshot, is this a cool jukebox program, or not a cool jukebox program
Post by: 40th.com on 2016-11-25 23:03:21
A very good comment for more reasons than you would think, and I'd have just PM'ed you but since I added a pic, here that is



Browsers may be making that pic bigger than it is.  It's very tiny.

The control sizes are set like that for touch screens.  Same for the meters (set size) since any smaller and may as well not have them (but you can remove them).

It's a win10 app so it takes on whatever DPI its current monitor is set.  The pic is from a standard 96 DPI monitor (100% scaling).  Looks great on a 2560x1440 using 120 DPI.  Direct2D is doing meters, and art, all the text outside of the windows controls (LV, buttons and sliders are regular windows controls).
Title: Re: By screenshot, is this a cool jukebox program, or not a cool jukebox program
Post by: Coreda on 2016-11-26 03:33:24
The pentagram with a baby inside it is an interesting choice for icon :p Apart from that has a kind of Winamp classic vibe going for it.
Title: Re: By screenshot, is this a cool jukebox program, or not a cool jukebox program
Post by: 40th.com on 2016-12-13 22:42:35
https://www.rushbackstage.com/rushbackstage/media-260/featured-books/art-of-rush-regular-edition.html

He (Hugh Syme) is the guy waving in the album cover picture (at the top of this topic), over by the WALK sign.  Probably.

I doubt Winamp and this are similar.  This is 64-bit only.  It loads everything into memory.  For example,  an 80 min. FLAC CD is off disk and into memory in about 3 seconds (decoded to PCM, not just loaded).  Most players will pull the disk for 80 minutes solid.  Sounds excellent, too.  Wonderful reverb.  Crossfeed is essential for headphones, and it's pretty good there, too.  Reverb and crossfeed can be tweaked.  Tone, too (corner Hz, shelf slope, for left/right).  EQ goes deeper, with control over each of the 8 channels for each band.

No database.  Loads and fully parses metadata at about 1000 files a second.  Faster, even that that I think, but I don't usually load everything, just a few new CDs at  a time.  (I am doing only FLAC CDs from now on, and yes, full control is there; nothing lacking or wanting.)  Typical playlists (m3u), but some smarts in how it finds the contents, and writes them for the FLAC CDs.

But none of that is needed.  Just pick a file or folder and go.  Just a single EXE.  About 3 MB (2MB of fonts in that).  About 1 MB as an .msi.  A single settings file, in plain text, per user.  The Windows registry is not used.

Everything is gapless.  Except old MP3s with no markers, but FhG (VBR) is (even gets the right duration), LAME is, iTunes MP3s are.  WMA?  All are (even standard ones).  M4A?  All are.  Well, if they (AAC) have that iTunSMPB thing (everything since iTunes v7 does).  FLAC/ALAC are, of course.

One correction: the very tiny pic is not from a 96 DPI display (was, but not now).  It's from a 120 DPI display, so a bit bigger.

Until next month.
Title: Re: By screenshot, is this a cool jukebox program, or not a cool jukebox program
Post by: 40th.com on 2016-12-31 23:45:28
One more nice pic to wrap up the year, and wrap up Jukebox 2112 (fork stuck).  The hand-wave guy pic was replaced, but can still be found in the link at the top.  This is the EQ.  Only three days left in the poll.




Title: Re: By screenshot, is this a cool jukebox program, or not a cool jukebox program
Post by: 40th.com on 2017-01-14 17:02:17
For those who see the coolness, the more at ... link at the top has the sneak peek zip to download.  About 2 MB.  Playable until mid-2017.  Now you can hear the coolness.
Title: Re: By screenshot, is this a cool jukebox program, or not a cool jukebox program
Post by: 40th.com on 2017-11-22 16:26:07
more at ... (obsolete link)
For the record - it's been a year since this poll started - Jukebox 2112 is now at version 5.12.

https://40th.com/jb/ (https://40th.com/jb/)

has up-to-date details.
Title: Re: By screenshot, is this a cool jukebox program, or not a cool jukebox program
Post by: krabapple on 2017-11-22 18:06:57
Does it allow WASAPI or ASIO output (i.e., bit-perfect data streaming)?
Title: Re: By screenshot, is this a cool jukebox program, or not a cool jukebox program
Post by: Porcus on 2017-11-22 18:28:21
By screenshot(s), is this a jukebox program that only plays Rush? If so, it is a cool jukebox gag.

(Will six VU meters suffice for an analog kid?)
Title: Re: By screenshot, is this a cool jukebox program, or not a cool jukebox program
Post by: krabapple on 2017-11-22 18:53:17
Does it allow WASAPI or ASIO output (i.e., bit-perfect data streaming)?

NM, I see it on the features page

Features:
Multi-channel 1/3-octave EQ
Multi-channel reverb
Headphone crossfeed
Gapless playback
True FLAC embedded cuesheet play
ReplayGain/Soundcheck handling, On-the-fly RGCalc
Create 2.1/5.1 to 4.4 from 2-ch stereo
WASAPI audio
Direct2D graph
Title: Re: By screenshot, is this a cool jukebox program, or not a cool jukebox program
Post by: Soap on 2017-11-26 13:54:16
The pentagram with a baby inside it is an interesting choice for icon :p Apart from that has a kind of Winamp classic vibe going for it.

That's yet another Rush thing.  Just like the name of the media player itself.
Title: Re: By screenshot, is this a cool jukebox program, or not a cool jukebox program
Post by: 40th.com on 2017-12-06 05:51:20
...is this a jukebox program that only plays Rush...

I won't say I expected someone to think that, but... I did.  Here is the answer.

Title: Re: By screenshot, is this a cool jukebox program, or not a cool jukebox program
Post by: MagicMan on 2017-12-17 11:11:26
Looks good, admire the programming skill here. Bit steap for my wallet but can totally understand wanting to be reimbursed properly for your work.
Title: Re: By screenshot, is this a cool jukebox program, or not a cool jukebox program
Post by: Franky666 on 2018-02-04 19:06:23
Here is my opinion to that. :D

What I like:
1 The VU meters are looking good. (but AFAIK, there is no positive range above 0dB during playback, because 0dB is usually the upper end of the red area. In all VU meters I used, the red area ranges from  -6dB to 0dB.)
2 The color scheme and the green font

What I dislike:
1 The non-standard window titlebar
2 It is heavily overloaded:
-There are 4 different visualisations per channel chewing up a third of the window space (and probably a lot of CPU power to calculate them)
-The image view in the bottom area tries to display every image found in the currently played music file
-The row of buttons with all the filters (btw.: what the hell is "XFeed"? Sounds bit like sound quality enhancer from 90's soundcards)
-In general, a brickwall of information with too many buttons

My ideas for improvement:
-I don't see any stop button. Only play/pause.
-Merge the separate channel visualisations to only one or two with the option to view them channel-wise, if someone is interested in (multichannel music is pretty rare, so most of time, many visualisation slots are grayed out and wasting space).
-Same to the image viewers (left and bottom)
-Make the upper, left and bottom part hideable (If I use that player, I would want hide them to get a bigger playlist area, and in my music library, I don't set any lyrics and cover tags so these would stay empty)
-What are the buttons "+3dB" and "-3dB" for? If I would want to change the volume, I would use the volume slider instead for that.
-I have no clue, what the button in the bottom-right corner does. It acually shows a pentragram with a dancing boy.
-Merge the waveform and the position slider together to only one control (a slider with the waveform as background)

But the graphics looks still more appealing to me than most sterile "design" Flat-GUIs from modern music players.
Title: Re: By screenshot, is this a cool jukebox program, or not a cool jukebox program
Post by: 40th.com on 2018-02-04 22:19:31
It is a standard titlebar.  You haven't use it, have you?  Going by the rest, it seems you haven't.  But for one, yes, the meter response beyond 0dB is valid, and correct.  Why that is true, I leave to the reader.

To the previous guy, about price.  There's soon to be a completely free version, so long as you only care to play mp3 tracks.  Maybe this week, or next.  You can get there by going to the Jukebox 2112 page, and add mp3.html after it.
Title: Re: By screenshot, is this a cool jukebox program, or not a cool jukebox program
Post by: Franky666 on 2018-02-04 23:46:39
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You haven't use it, have you

No, I judged by screen shot. That is actually that, what you've asked for.   :D

Beside your official offer for 26$, I didn't find any free testing version and I don't pay money for a very basic player that does not even support all common audio formats ;). Remember: You didn't list Opus as supported media format. ::)
Title: Re: By screenshot, is this a cool jukebox program, or not a cool jukebox program
Post by: 40th.com on 2018-03-03 16:27:54
The poll was from November 2016, and before anything was available.

There is a free version available called mp3 jukebox.
Title: Re: By screenshot, is this a cool jukebox program, or not a cool jukebox program
Post by: 40th.com on 2019-01-12 15:29:07
FTR, re: Reply #19 "free", not anymore.
Title: Re: By screenshot, is this a cool jukebox program, or not a cool jukebox program
Post by: 40th.com on 2019-07-15 20:40:16
For the record - it's been a year since this poll started - Jukebox 2112 is now at version 5.12.
Make that - it's been over 2 1/2 years since this poll started - Jukebox 2112 is now at version 11.50.
Title: Re: By screenshot, is this a cool jukebox program, or not a cool jukebox program
Post by: 40th.com on 2019-12-18 21:32:03
Make that - it's been over 2 1/2 years since this poll started - Jukebox 2112 is now at version 11.50.
 
 Jukebox 2112 is v19.12.17 now.  It goes by a date/version now.


Title: Re: By screenshot, is this a cool jukebox program, or not a cool jukebox program
Post by: Simon_ Thunder on 2020-01-20 12:10:19
Cool skin. Can you please share this player?
Thank you.
Title: Re: By screenshot, is this a cool jukebox program, or not a cool jukebox program
Post by: metadatafreak on 2020-01-21 03:35:52
I don't think so. Maybe I'm used to the cleanliness of iTunes.
Title: Re: By screenshot, is this a cool jukebox program, or not a cool jukebox program
Post by: ManekiNeko on 2020-10-27 18:16:23
Make that - it's been over 2 1/2 years since this poll started - Jukebox 2112 is now at version 11.50.

Man is that garish. I prefer plain/clean looks like iTunes.
 
 Jukebox 2112 is v19.12.17 now.  It goes by a date/version now.



Title: Re: By screenshot, is this a cool jukebox program, or not a cool jukebox program
Post by: 40th.com on 2020-10-27 18:52:27
Man is that garish. I prefer plain/clean looks like iTunes.

I admit I had to look up garish.  OK.

BTW, version is 20.10.21 now.

I've already shown enough pictures around here so instead of yet-another-pic, read about it at the store.  You won't find iTunes there.  I'm not even sure they still do iTunes. 

https://www.microsoft.com/store/apps/9mwlm64kmd3n (https://www.microsoft.com/store/apps/9mwlm64kmd3n)

I'm not thrilled about posting a link like that here, but I've posted enough pictures for a while.  There are 10 pictures in there, and a lot to read if you like to know more.  There's even an overly-compressed video (click on the kid), but not too bad in getting the idea.

We'll I'll be, iTunes is there

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/itunes/9pb2mz1zmb1s (https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/itunes/9pb2mz1zmb1s)

That's almost funny.  That it's there.  As for "garish".  Hm.  I think I see an example of garish now.
Title: Re: By screenshot, is this a cool jukebox program, or not a cool jukebox program
Post by: 40th.com on 2021-09-11 16:42:10
A new version, numbered as 21.12.5

What's different?  It's better than before.  What else?  The store link above has what there is to tell (too much for here).


The store website has gone lo-fi on screenshot quality, and screenshots are absent entirely from the main store since at least July 2021, so for the original PNGs:

https://40th.com/jb/ (https://40th.com/jb/)

Not quite five years old - this topic - but getting there.  Where were you way back then?
Title: Re: By screenshot, is this a cool jukebox program, or not a cool jukebox program
Post by: NateHigs on 2021-09-14 16:37:31
Here I am to offer some constructive feedback.

The functions of the app look good, I can't think of anything else I'd want from a media player really.

It's hands down the worst looking thing I've seen in the modern era of PC apps. Flashing, blinking lights, fake VU meters, HUGE buttons, small text scattered all over the place. It looks like a real mess to my eyes. I think you need a professional HMI guy.


Title: Re: By screenshot, is this a cool jukebox program, or not a cool jukebox program
Post by: Apesbrain on 2021-09-14 17:10:14
It's hands down the worst looking thing I've seen in the modern era of PC apps.
My second LOL today on HA!  Thanks.
Title: Re: By screenshot, is this a cool jukebox program, or not a cool jukebox program
Post by: 40th.com on 2021-09-14 18:23:08
It's not made for the kids, Nate.

The VUs are not fake.  I presume you are basing your comment on the video trailer.  It's a few years old.  One day I may update that.  Not today

The buttons are as big as they need to be; the content scales with size (the screenshot attached is one screen capture, two instances, one full screen the other small -- this is one capture; two instances are running; I don't know if you know what that means).

If you look back about 5 years ago, one person (I think even the first reply) said the same about the buttons.  You can read my reply to him.

Here I am to offer some constructive feedback.

And?  Here's the thing.  Anyone with a decent setup can hear the difference.  It's very easy to use, too.  Keyboard only, sure.  Touch only, sure.  Mouse, yeah.  If you like scrambling around looking for how to do things (it's nuts how difficult and complex players are to use like JR), there are other players.  If you like slow-performing things, there are other players (one player, MB, rips CDs -- sure -- but at 4-6x; Jukebox 2112 rips outer-zone tracks at more than 40X.  And updates the super-accurate VUs and scopes, and freq. bars (well) at 60 FPS @ 4K _WHILE_ playing FH4 at 4K @ 60 FPS, without either having an effect on the other.  Try it this time instead of watching a trailer.

Hey, Apesbrain!  I' m watching you!  No, not really, but thanks for entering this topic.  Not too sure about that handle of yours, though.

Keep 'em coming.  But kids, don't you have better things to do?  J/K.  No, not.



Title: Re: By screenshot, is this a cool jukebox program, or not a cool jukebox program
Post by: 40th.com on 2021-09-14 18:52:49
Not bad, but the visualization and transport are too large while the playlist/lyrics fonts are too small, hope the UI can be customized.
Looks like I made a change there.  Attached is a picture with what I would call plenty-big-enough tracklist fonts (and the lyrics are 80% the size of this setting; big-enough).  As for viz-2-big, nah.  I like it so I can see it.  Tip to readers: if you see small viz and think that's normal -- it's only normal because that program can't do it at a reasonable size.  Most players you see today were designed decades ago and use obsolete APIs to render.  Jukebox is using the new stuff.
Title: Re: By screenshot, is this a cool jukebox program, or not a cool jukebox program
Post by: marc2k3 on 2021-09-15 11:16:49
Playback control buttons larger than the album art. That's a hard no from me.
Title: Re: By screenshot, is this a cool jukebox program, or not a cool jukebox program
Post by: 40th.com on 2021-09-15 13:42:14
Playback control buttons larger than the album art. That's a hard no from me.
There is a link right up there to look at 10 pics.  I know it's the internet and a 10-second attention span is the norm, but come on.  But I do thank you for giving it a hip-shot.

Also can zoom/pan that image, and save it.  Super-smooth, slick, yada-yada.  32 images per track.  If you think that's nuts, ... there's a link right up there (below, too) to look at 10 pics.



A new version, numbered as 21.12.5 ...so for the original PNGs:

https://40th.com/jb/ (https://40th.com/jb/)

Title: Re: By screenshot, is this a cool jukebox program, or not a cool jukebox program
Post by: marc2k3 on 2021-09-15 17:21:41
You are right to criticise me for me being terribly lazy. I was focusing on the words of the actual thread title and just happened to look at the most recent post without checking the entire thread.

Still, it's very much not to my taste and something I'd never have any interest in.
Title: Re: By screenshot, is this a cool jukebox program, or not a cool jukebox program
Post by: The Irish Man on 2021-09-15 19:11:19


I am sorry but it looks a mess to me.
Also why is this still in the the polls section?
When it costs $40, it seems more a advertising thread than a poll.
Title: Re: By screenshot, is this a cool jukebox program, or not a cool jukebox program
Post by: Apesbrain on 2021-09-15 20:57:54
Hey, Apesbrain!  I' m watching you!  No, not really, but thanks for entering this topic.  Not too sure about that handle of yours, though.
I'm sorry for piling on, but you open yourself up to it by charging real money for this.  Fact is, your approach to foobar2000 and mine (see below) couldn't be more different.  Good luck!

(https://i.imgur.com/GjVfX4V.jpg)
Title: Re: By screenshot, is this a cool jukebox program, or not a cool jukebox program
Post by: includemeout on 2021-09-15 23:24:30
Oh lord! A thread like this should've been killed at birth before it bred, so high cringing levels on it have been.
Title: Re: By screenshot, is this a cool jukebox program, or not a cool jukebox program
Post by: A_Man_Eating_Duck on 2021-09-16 02:51:45
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If you like scrambling around looking for how to do things (it's nuts how difficult and complex players are to use like JR), there are other players.
I'm not sure how you can say that without laughing you've pretty much described your own software, just check out your settings window. I did actually play around with the trial version but it's just so clunky to use. It seems you've managed to add extra steps to things that should only be one step e,g, left clicking the column headers to sort the playlist, nope need to right click and then choose the option. I found it using more resources (CPU and RAM) than my normal player. You double click some where you shouldn't and boom the player window either maximises or restores, I'm sure this will be good fun with a touch screen. Resizing the window when tracks are in the playlist is jerky. Removing multiple items from the playlist was a chore, why can't i just use the shift and mouse to select and press delete to remove, i need to untick them first and jump through a couple right click menus to remove them. Why so many different fonts? God knows how you actually rip a CD with it? I'm sure theirs more but i just couldn't persist anymore with it.

For price of $50.60NZD I would rather go back to the Foobar2000 notepad days, actually even further back to Sonique (http://www.glop.org/sonique/) than go anywhere near this again.

For my use case it's simply "Not cool"
Title: Re: By screenshot, is this a cool jukebox program, or not a cool jukebox program
Post by: The Irish Man on 2021-09-16 08:35:50

Maybe we should have a poll on whether to nuke this thread? ;D
Title: Re: By screenshot, is this a cool jukebox program, or not a cool jukebox program
Post by: includemeout on 2021-09-16 09:30:57
I'm not sure how you can say that without laughing you've pretty much described your own software
...or another ill-fated design of the 1990s, for that matter:

Though I'm sure this one can also play "La Cucaracha" when requested, the latter had the added bonus of being “powerful like a gorilla, yet soft and yielding, like a Nerf ball.”
Title: Re: By screenshot, is this a cool jukebox program, or not a cool jukebox program
Post by: The Irish Man on 2021-09-16 10:29:09

For price of $50.60NZD I would rather go back to the Foobar2000 notepad days, actually even further back to Sonique (http://www.glop.org/sonique/) than go anywhere near this again.
I remember CoolPlayer (https://coolplayer.en.softonic.com/)
Is there a website of old audio players anywhere?
Title: Re: By screenshot, is this a cool jukebox program, or not a cool jukebox program
Post by: Markuza97 on 2021-09-16 12:57:00

For price of $50.60NZD I would rather go back to the Foobar2000 notepad days, actually even further back to Sonique (http://www.glop.org/sonique/) than go anywhere near this again.
I remember CoolPlayer (https://coolplayer.en.softonic.com/)
Is there a website of old audio players anywhere?

https://www.rarewares.org/rrw/programs.php
You can find some old players at the bottom.

Edit: About your music player. I personally think it is a bit cluttered. I prefer simple interface. Here's how my foobar2000 looks like.

Title: Re: By screenshot, is this a cool jukebox program, or not a cool jukebox program
Post by: lvqcl on 2021-09-16 16:34:32
Every time I see the name of this topic I recall this song:   ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VimZXxz18SI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VimZXxz18SI)

(simply because of its name, have no idea about its lyrics, my English isn't that good)
Title: Re: By screenshot, is this a cool jukebox program, or not a cool jukebox program
Post by: 40th.com on 2021-09-21 01:40:20
So much attention with so much complaining.  I think you protest too much!  I know it's easy to use (settings are a one-time thing -- and then still the settings are very compartmentalized/one place for one task -- then it's the buttons on the main screen).  Can't handle a right-click?  (Wow!)  Say I want to turn off all DSPs.  One button - main screen.  It even says "DSP off".  Other players do it how?  By playing around in tree, or a double-sided list, doing some moving to and fro, just like Winamp all those decades ago.  Busy work is what that is, and like an addict, busy work keeps you busy doing busy work.  Have you nothing better to do?  And what's with EQs anymore?  As if everyone has a mono Hi-Fi.  If you have 8 channels, you need an 8-channel EQ.  10 bands of EQ?  Are you deaf?  31 bands, 8 channels, is the only way to go.  And Jukebox sounds absolutely wonderful.  JR DSPs sound...odd, and yet it's supposed to be its big deal.  If you want to be there, in concert, Jukebox does that.  Nothing else does.
<para finally>
OK, keep it coming but let's try to sound like you know what you're talking about.  Just joking.  (Ha-ha)  Protest on! Garth!
Title: Re: By screenshot, is this a cool jukebox program, or not a cool jukebox program
Post by: The Irish Man on 2021-09-21 07:34:46
And Jukebox sounds absolutely wonderful.  JR DSPs sound...odd, and yet it's supposed to be its big deal.  If you want to be there, in concert, Jukebox does that.  Nothing else does.

Maybe a TOS 8 red flag, maybe possibly also TOS 14

Also $40 for this ugly player, when others can do all this for free, yes even the ugly part.
Title: Re: By screenshot, is this a cool jukebox program, or not a cool jukebox program
Post by: john33 on 2021-09-21 09:41:13
Why is this thread even permitted as it's clearly a sales pitch!
Title: Re: By screenshot, is this a cool jukebox program, or not a cool jukebox program
Post by: includemeout on 2021-09-21 15:23:46
So much attention with so much complaining.  I think you protest too much!  I know it's easy to use (settings are a one-time thing -- and then still the settings are very compartmentalized/one place for one task -- then it's the buttons on the main screen).  Can't handle a right-click?  (Wow!)  Say I want to turn off all DSPs.  One button - main screen.  It even says "DSP off".  Other players do it how?  By playing around in tree, or a double-sided list, doing some moving to and fro, just like Winamp all those decades ago.  Busy work is what that is, and like an addict, busy work keeps you busy doing busy work.  Have you nothing better to do?  And what's with EQs anymore?  As if everyone has a mono Hi-Fi.  If you have 8 channels, you need an 8-channel EQ.  10 bands of EQ?  Are you deaf?  31 bands, 8 channels, is the only way to go.  And Jukebox sounds absolutely wonderful.  JR DSPs sound...odd, and yet it's supposed to be its big deal.  If you want to be there, in concert, Jukebox does that.  Nothing else does.
<para finally>
OK, keep it coming but let's try to sound like you know what you're talking about.  Just joking.  (Ha-ha)  Protest on! Garth!
Anyone can tell that this guy's prima donna attitude,  plus the fact his approach to UX is that of a first grader, that even if he weren't to charge 40 bucks(!!) for this... thing, that his business model's fate would still be the same as that of this thread's: a butt of jokes and nothing more!

And to think that it would've been so easy for him to learn from other HA members - who also happen to be developers/contributors of software/audio formats as outstanding as foobar2k, FLAC or Wavpack -  a lesson or two in how to have a down-to-earth attitude towards honest criticism, instead of such ludicrous display of hollier-than-thou attitude and arrogance!
Title: Re: By screenshot, is this a cool jukebox program, or not a cool jukebox program
Post by: The Irish Man on 2021-09-21 20:26:21
Sorry
I know this thread Really should die.
But why is its website so like a warez site from the late 90's ?
Title: Re: By screenshot, is this a cool jukebox program, or not a cool jukebox program
Post by: Porcus on 2021-09-21 22:19:48
Maybe because the author wants it to look that way.
Just as (s)he wants the jukebox to have lots of VU meters. Nothing outside the TOS.

Also, someone will be out to make freeware for world domination - others want to charge $40 from those very few who appreciate the design. Nothing to be outraged about.
If you are playing music all the time, and feel like spending $40 (up fifty percent since midway during this thread it seems?) for eyecandy, then go ahead.
Title: Re: By screenshot, is this a cool jukebox program, or not a cool jukebox program
Post by: The Irish Man on 2021-09-22 08:34:04
Maybe Apple, Linux & mobile users should start up a petition to get this player ported over, So they also can get they hands on this beautiful program. :D
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