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Topic: Does "no match" from CUETools and AccurateRip databases confirm inaccurate rip? (Read 21524 times) previous topic - next topic
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Re: Does "no match" from CUETools and AccurateRip databases confirm inaccurate rip?

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Quote from: Shostakovich on
Quote from: shaboo on
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Different pressings affect AR database, not CT database.
If the CD is found in the cuetools database, with 194 results!, and all tracks show no match, obviously those files have been modified after ripping. If it's downloaded from a web site, it's probably watermarking. If it's a download from some other site, it can be anything.
The probability of ripping an original CD yourself, and get that result is null.
The album indeed has been downloaded from the web.
Using ARDB/CTDB verification on downloaded files only makes sense when you can be 100% sure that it's actually an unmodified CD rip.

That doesn't make much sense.
The only way of knowing that the files have not been modified is verifying them. How can you possibly know that the files have not been modified before that?
If cuetools gives "accurately ripped" on all tracks, then you know those files are from a perfect rip of a CD.
Quote from: JunkieXL on
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The only way to verify an accurate rip on downloaded content is by looking at the EAC log file that you downloaded with the music.

You cannot recreate a bit for bit identical copy of the original CD using downloaded content.  Even if you load it as an image file and rip from a virtual drive, there will be differences.

Therefore....there is no way to take the downloaded content and compare it to rips made off of the original CD.

This entire discussion is pointless once you factor that in.
JXL

Everything you say is false, and I mean everything.

Who says that you download a log file?
"The only way to verify an accurate rip on downloaded content is by looking at the EAC log file that you downloaded with the music."
That's just idiotic. Then, what do you think cuetools verification function does? Nothing? It's just a fraud?

Of course you can recreate a CD, what "differences" are you talking about?
If you download a FLAC file, and when you verify it shows "accurately ripped", there will be zero differences.

Have you ever burned a CDr from accurately ripped lossless content and then tried to rip the resulting CDr to see if it was accurate?  I have...

Once you actually test the BS you are spouting, then you can post again.
Thanks... bye.
JXL
I confirm:
So the correct answer is:

If a RIP is made using EAC software with the recommended settings and the CORRECT offset for reading and writing, and that rip (whether it is a image or split by tracks) is converted to lossless using cuetools, then back to .wav, then burned to a CD and ripped again - then!!!! 1st (original rip) and 2nd (from own EAC burned CD) MUST have 100% identical hash-summe.  100% bit to bit!!!
Personally tested and not contestable. 




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